By Robert Windrem
NBC News Investigative Producer for Special Projects
With the arrest Thursday of Ratko Mladic, the two most-hunted fugitives of the Bosnian civil war have been captured, 16 years after being indicted by the U.N. war crimes tribunal on genocide charges.
For years, the U.S. believed Mladic was hiding in Serbia under the protection of hardliners who consider him a hero, and Belgrade's media said Mladic was arrested at the home of relatives in Lazarevo, a village some 60 miles northeast of Belgrade close to the northern Serbian town of Zrenjanin.
But back in the 1990s, after the indictment, the U.S. had an opportunity to “snatch” both Mladic and former Bosnian Serb president Radovan Karadzic but declined.
At the time, U.S. intelligence officials involved in the discussions told NBC News, the U.S. decided not to go after them even after key allied commando and intelligence units trained for such a mission. In fact, NBC News learned from the officials that U.S. units trained with British commando units throughout 1997 at a British base in Hereford, England, and that U.S. intelligence assets had great success in tracking the two men on an almost daily basis.
The first plans were drawn up in March or April 1997, not long after Karadzic himself had passed through U.S. checkpoints unhindered.
Under the Dayton Accords, the war criminal issue had been left deliberately muddled. The mandate of the NATO-led peacekeeping force in Bosnia and Herzegovina, SFOR, had allowed it to detain war criminals only if its units encountered them in the course of their duties and if they had enough military backup to do the job. In other words, a suspected war criminal would practically have to turn himself in at the SFOR camp at Tuzla.
Karadzic's boldness at the checkpoint angered many in NATO. So planning began for operations that were to target major war criminals particularly Karadzic and Mladic, according to military sources. The original intention – much debated – was to go after all the higher-profile ones at once ... a big sweep-up operation. (It is unclear if President Bill Clinton originally signed off on this plan or not. Clearly, authorization for planning and training was given at some level though – not necessarily presidential.)
In addition, NBC NEWS has learned:
- The NATO commander then, Gen. George Joulwan, approved of using SFOR forces to plan and execute these snatches.
- Six or seven major players – countries/organizations – were working on these plans, say U.S. officials.
- The sweep was set to go in June 1997. Some U.S. Special Operations Forces actually left their bases elsewhere and showed up in Europe ... but Clinton decided against the plan at the last minute. The troops deployed for the operation came home.
- Other nations – particularly Britain – wanted to go after war criminals. So the British told the U.S. they were going to target war criminals they knew to be living in Prijedor, a Bosnian Serb stronghold and the scene of horrific ethnic cleansing. Clinton did eventually sign off on the U.S. intelligence and other support for the British operation.
- Prijedor was a trial balloon, to see what the Serb response would be like.
Deadly shootout, wavering afterward
The raid in Prijedor took place July 10, 1997, and led to a shootout. British troops served the first secret indictments. Simo Drljaca, the brutal former police chief of Prijedor, was shot dead resisting arrest, according to SFOR, “liquidated,” according to the Serbs, who gave him a state funeral. Another suspect, Milan Kovacevic, was arrested in the same raid and flown to The Hague.
The British wanted to do more. One U.S. official claimed Britain was "shoving the plan in our face" because it felt the U.S. was "dragging its feet in agreeing to execute the whole plan." Planning began for a September operation. Joulwan was pushing it.
However, others in the U.S. administration claimed the British plan was too ambitious and the U.S. felt different options provided different advantages. One Pentagon official says that the U.S. favored more manageable operations as opposed to a large coordinated action, which would be much more difficult to pull off. Some other U.S. agencies, including the State Department, had lobbied for a big sweep-up.
A military source, however, believed that the political will for this overall mission was intermittent – especially concerning a large-scale operation. Many in the Pentagon believed that for an operation to be effective, an element of surprise was important, and after Prijedor, the Serbs became nervous, fearing more missions. "You'd pretty much have to wait 60-90 days anyway to regain any such element of surprise,” the source said.
While nothing was approved, U.S. Special Operations Forces nevertheless began training for such "Big Fish" missions. U.S. Navy Seals and the Army Delta Force trained for months in Hereford with the British SAS on very specific targets. There was also planning and training in Germany, apparently in Grafenwoehr and Stuttgart.
Tracking the men
The decision not to go ahead with the mission was not based on a lack of intelligence.
Karadzic and Mladic were tracked intensely from the time of the Dayton Accords in 1995 onward, but inside the CIA's Balkan Task Force, there was always uncertainty about whether the U.S. wanted to grab either of them, fearing the implications.
"The CIA always wanted to know where they were, but pinpointing was the problem," said one official.
The U.S. usually knew the general area where they were hiding on a daily basis, but tracking them to a particular village or home wasn’t easy. On some days, intelligence was better than others, but the U.S. usually knew within a 20-mile radius where they were, said one official.
Karadzic and Mladic usually moved three times a week, sometimes every day, mostly at night. And they moved independently.
Often, they could be found operating near Tuzla ... even when U.S. troops were operating there. One official described the lack of a will to grab them as "very frustrating." They were also known to operate near Mostar, which is on the Bosnian-Croatian border. They often surprised the U.S. with their arrogance.
The primary means of intelligence was electronic eavesdropping, known as "sigint" or "signals intelligence" in the spy trade.
"Humint [human intelligence] is obviously the best, but it was very hard. We never had good humint. They operate in small villages and villagers were tight-lipped. They are both too afraid and too loyal to tell us anything valuable," said one source.
Still the U.S. did have some human sources, and U.S. officials believed Karadzic was probably more vulnerable to a U.S. penetration of his bodyguards since they were non-military men and paid in hard currency.
Arsenal of eavesdropping
The U.S. also knew from intelligence gathering that there were increasing strains between the two men and their cadre.
Mladic and Karadzic and their people used cell and landline phones to communicate, and U.S. intelligence took advantage of that. "We had the cell phones covered, we had the land lines covered. They used either, we got it."
The primary means of intelligence collection was the RC-135 "Rivet Joint" aircraft. A converted Boeing 707 loaded with antennas to pick up conversations, it flew regular missions out of Mildenhall AB, near London loitered over Bosnia at 35,000 feet for up to 10 hours as it recorded conversations and then flew back to England. There was at least one Serbo-Croatian linguist on board the aircraft to sift through communications, separating important calls from the routine traffic. Further analysis is done on the ground as well as back in the U.S..
The U.S. also used U-2 spy planes and satellites to eavesdrop and photograph suspected locations. In addition, the CIA flew Predator drones out of Albania, and covert ground stations were set up in Bosnia and Croatia to help track their communications.
All the intercepts were fed into National Security Agency headquarters at Fort Meade, Md., for enhancement and to the CIA for analysis.
Mladic and Karadzic knew they were being tracked. At one point in 1996, Mladic ordered his men to write the words, "F*** YOU" in English, in the snow near the town of Brcko, so it could be seen by spy satellites. The image was shown to Clinton in the White House and he got a good laugh out of it, said one official who was in the room.
Long-sought war crimes fugitive caught in Serbia
The bottom line, some officials believed, was that the U.S. was not interested in grabbing Mladic or Karadzic. The U.S. knew doing so would complicate the Dayton Accords and the Balkan situation in general and could hurt relations with Russia, which protected the Serbs.
"I never heard from the principals that we have to find them," said one official involved in tracking them. "There was no priority getting the top guys. The priority was to grab the lower-level guys to satisfy public concerns about war crimes."
The CIA, however, kept track "in case the policy changed, and in the Clinton administration, foreign policy, especially Bosnia, was subject to the polls. We feared that one day, someone – like the president – would demand to know where these guys were."
Several members of the Balkan Task Force remembered when Air Force Capt. Scott O'Grady was shot down and a delegation was called to the White House Situation Room to brief the president on where O'Grady might be. "The president blew up, demanding to know why O'Grady couldn't be found when the U.S. was spending $30 billion on intelligence."
The CIA was very frustrated by the White House's lack of interest in grabbing war criminals, knowing the level of war crimes alleged to have been committed. "I read the interviews with rape victims and it was one of the worst things imaginable," said one CIA official.


"...back in the 1990s, after the indictment, the U.S. had an opportunity to "snatch" both Mladic and former Bosnian Serb president Radovan Karadzic but declined." Doesn't this sound eerily similar to the 1997/8 opportunity to pick up Bin Laden that was also passed up by Clinton?
Sounds like Bill Clinton couldn't bother with picking up global thugs/terrorists or mass murderers. Interesting how those passed up opportunities cost over ten years of searching and thousands of innocent lives. Guess his hands were too busy with other things.
You anti government people kill me. If we do get involved you guys get upset. If we don't get involved then you guys still get upset. Is there anything the government can do to please EVERYONE in America at the same time?
Worst killer since Hitler?? Wow...so stalin, pol pot, and Mao...all overlooked?? What about the people killed in Africa?
Yeah but those countries don't count...they're not European.
You know nothing about history. Clinton had nothing to do with that desicion but Bush had everything to do with protecting his family friend. The reason that America did not go after the Serbs is because the Serbs were our allies in WW2 and the croation pigs supported HITLER. Also, if you happened to follow other than the moronic tv station FAGS NEWS you would realize that America's army was powerless in the Balkans. Plus, the croations started the whole disaster so why would America support a bunch of terrorists?
Oh, I forgot, Bush supported terrorists, his family friend the Bin Ladens. You know, those guys he was constantly kissing and holding hands with, not that there is anything wrong with that.
" but Clinton decided against the plan at the last minute." Yeah, well Americans have a little better perspective on Bill Clintons motives, than all those people in the Balkans that love him so much! How much you wanna bet, ther's a numbered account in, say... the isle of man? cancun? Switzerland? etc. that these two butchers and bill Clinton just happen to know the numbers to?
Yeah, and Mona Lisa was a man.
DrHickerydickdoc--Have you been practicing long to be such a dolt? Where do you come up with such a dingbat idea? Perhaps you have been puffing on your pipe full of hickory shavings too often?
And dont forget that terrorist loving bush family. you know, your hero that seems to love kissing the bin laden men and holding hands with them. you can bet there is a lot of pillow talk going on between the bush crime family and the bin laden family.
The US is bombing and killing civilians in Libya. How is our commander in chief different?
Our commander in chief is different because the oppressed people of that nation asked him to. If not for him, the Mad Dog of Libya was going to kill tens of thousands of innocent civillians.
Its different, our commander in chief is bombing all the supporters that supports the person we dont like. That way, the terrorist gets to become the new majority of that "democracy"
Trotsky - I wonder why he hasn't then slaughtered all those innocent civilians in the towns he took back from the rebels. Maybe it was because he said he would have no mercy on "the rebels" and never once said anything about slaughtering his own "people".
Where is the story of how no one cared if the US caught him or not? Not one person in America knew who this guy was before they caught him. No one cared about him. Its not our problem.
I am sure there are hundreds of war criminals floating around in the world. One of them lives in Crawford TX. I saw him at a baseball game just the other night. Why aren't we trying to arrest him?
I didn't know you were a war criminal, nor did I know you liked to go to ball games!
I take it you mean Obama and his OIL war in Libya.
Yeah why should I be concerned about this guy? Who cares? Should we have to react to everything that happens? No one seems to care the southern border is turning into a drug wasteland. No one seems to be bothered by thousands of mexicans being killed.
Correct, money is better spent on the southern border issues, which are mounting!
That's right. How come the bush crime family is walking around free, free to kiss saudi shieks, free to walk around holding hands with....the bin laden family. didnt that moron say he wasnt concerned with bin laden, once it turned out he was safe in pakistan.. I wonder how much money the war profitteering bush crime family has hid around the world.
Why would US want to go after Mladic after all he killed the muslems not the Jews.
Clinton avoided going after Bin Laden, too.
Youre right
imfoundinit
, the Muslims don't LOBBY$$$$$$$$$.
@malocchio - So you are saying the $audi$ don't spend any money on Capitol Hill?
Not clear if Clinton knew my a**. Seven countries involved and our president didn't know. Come on! How stupid does the author think America's are? Remember when WJC had several months to get Bin Laden in Africa and he looked the other way?
this is why the confederacy, germany, and japan were bombed into unconditional surrender. anything less is victory for your enemies. enemies like north korea. enemies like pakistan. enemies like iran. enemies like libya. no victory, no "peace."
So we passed up a chance on these two AND Bin Laden. I wonder how many others we passed up the chance to get.
JJ-Several hundred Nazi's that were allowed into The U.S. after WW2 for a start.
Hey CIA spinner quoted in the article, how did you feel while reading the interviews of victims raped by Bosnian Government and Croatian forces? While the US government not only did not arrest those leaders, they gave them massive amounts of political, diplomatic, monetary, and mililtary aid?
USA good, bad. USA bad, bad, USA neutral, bad. BUT its hard-fought, hard-paid threats to anyone with a bad global conscience has made more than one villain think more than once about their career path.
Victory, like justice, is relative. Easily overlooked, yet absolute, are the battles that haven't taken place and that don't have villains or heroes. Or victims, who don't know whom (not) to thank.
How do you use your muscle to cast the first stone?
I have had personal relationships with survivors of villages razed to the ground during the mentioned conflict. Their descriptions of the genocide was horrific and evil. One friend of mine was the sole survivor of her town. She was lucky enough to be visiting relatives at the time. She tried to go home.......it was gone. So was everyone she had known in her 12 years of life. She ended up walking out of that region at night escaping with only the rags on her back and a bag full of nightmares that last to this day.
It was wrong not to pick up the thugs that planned, financed and carried out this unimaginable thing. I can understand why the U.S. would try to not harry the Russians anymore than we do already. But still...omg.
Maybe they can make arrangements to have these two thugs share living accomadations with Bin Laden. I hear he has a nice place with an ocean view and plenty of room.
Silck Willy let these two slip right thru his hands
Give Bill a break! He had a tough enough time being the first black president and all.
"The sweep was set to go in June 1997. Some U.S. Special Operations Forces actually left their bases elsewhere and showed up in Europe ... but Clinton decided against the plan at the last minute. The troops deployed for the operation came home."
Wonder why Clinton passed on this and knocking off Osama bin Laden? Must have been enjoying himself with an intern and didn't want to be bothered with an actual decision.
Funny, it seems we let a lot of Nazis get out of Germany also. Most do not realize that the croations were on Hitlers side in WW2 and did Hitlers bidding with no moral concern. Now on the other hand the Serbs hunted down the Nazis in the Balkans and fortunately, massacred many. It is too bad that America did not help the Serbs purge the Balkans of the Nazi loving Croations decades ago. But that just shows the power of the war loving catholic church, another terrorist organization that needs to be purged from earth, and one that the Nazi loving croations were a part of.
Kinda makes one wonder who he was either working for or with - with the way silent wars go on today.
Is That a race war between the "aryans" and the slavonics?