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Subscribe to RSSWhile Rep. Michele Bachmann has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program for swelling the "welfare rolls," the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained by NBC News.
The previously unreported payments are on top of the $24,000 in federal and state funds that Bachmann & Associates, the clinic founded by Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist, received in recent years under a state grant to train its employees, state records show. The figures were provided to NBC News in response to a Freedom of Information request.
The clinic, based in Lake Elmo, Minn., describes itself on its website as offering "quality Christian counseling" for a large number of mental health problems ranging from "anger management" to addictions and eating disorders.
The $161,000 in payments from the Minnesota Department of Human Services to her husband's clinic appear to contradict some of Michelle Bachmann's public accounts this week when she was first asked about the extent to which her family has benefited from government aid. Contacted this afternoon, Alice Stewart, a spokeswoman for Bachmann, said the congresswoman was doing campaign events and was not immediately available for comment.
Questions about the Bachmann family's receipt of government funds arose this week after a Los Angeles Times story reported that a family farm in which Michelle Bachmann is a partner had received nearly $260,000 in federal farm subsidies.
When asked by anchor Chris Wallace on "Fox News Sunday" about the story's assertion that her husband's counseling clinic had also gotten federal and state funds, Bachmann replied that it was "one-time training money that came from the federal government. And it certainly didn't help our clinic."
At another point, she said, "My husband and I did not get the money," adding that it was "mental health training money that went to the employees."
Read more reporting by Michael Isikoff in 'The Isikoff Files'
But state records show that Bachmann & Associates has been collecting payments under the Minnesota's Medicaid program every year for the past six years. Karen Smigielski, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Human Services, said the state's Medicaid program is funded "about 50-50" with federal and state monies. The funds to Bachmann & Associates are for the treatment of low-income mentally ill patients and are based on a "fee for service" basis, meaning the clinic was reimbursed by Medicaid for the services it provided.
Smigielski added that these were not the only government funds that Bachmann & Associates has received. The clinic also participates in managed-care plans that are reimbursed under a separate state-funded Minnesota Health Care program. But the state does not have any records of payment information to the individual clinics that participate. (During her Fox News appearance, Bachmann was not asked about Medicaid payments, and she made no mention of them.)
Another state official, Patrice Vick, communications manager for the Human Services Department, said she was puzzled by Michelle Bachmann's assertion on the broadcast that the funds under the state grant went to employees. While the grant was to train employees to help them treat chemical dependency, the money did not go directly to those being trained, she said. "It went to the clinic," Vick said.
"The contract was with the clinic," Vick added later. But she had no immediate information about whether the clinic passed it along directly to the employes being trained or used it to cover its costs of training.
The issue of her receipt of government aid has gotten attention because Bachmann, a Tea Party favorite, has been a fierce critic of federal spending programs and has called for drastic cutbacks. This has especially been the case on health care, including the expansions of Medicaid called for under the new health care law.
When Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton signed an executive order earlier this year expanding the state's Medicaid program for more than 95,000 state residents, Bachmann was joined state Republican lawmakers in denouncing the move.
"Right now, Governor Dayton is wanting to commit Minnesota taxpayers to add even more welfare recipients on the welfare rolls at a very great cost," Bachmann said at a news conference in St. Paul in January.
"She's giving hypocrisy a bad name," said Ron Pollock, executive director of Families USA, a consumer health care advocacy group, when asked about the Medicaid payments to Bachmann & Associates. "It's clear when it feathers her nest she's happy for Medicaid expenditures. But people that really need it — folks with disabilities and seniors — she's turning their backs on them."
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Well, well well...
As if it wasn't bad enough she received hundreds of thousands of dollar in farm subsidies, not to mention close to a million dollars with her OTHER cash crop being foster children.
Now it turns out Mr. BatSh!T crazy also likes to dip into the public trough...
What it says is this anti-gubment dingbat has NO problem sucking off the Gubment teat as long as it's fattening their bank accounts!
Stick a fork in the Thorazine Queen - she's DONE!
I can't wait for a couple of those foster kids to come forward and describe what life what really like on Ol' Michele's farm...
Sounds a little like Watters husband receiving federal grant money that she knew nothing about. Or Pelosi's husband getting government money for various things. Guess getting federal money doesn't amount to much squabble when it goes to democrats and said public official as spouses either deny it or don't know about it.
Hey Brian- it's so tired and old for folks like u to always say, "oh but the dems are corrupt hypocrites too." yeah, politicians of both parties are corrupt hypocrites. and the American people know it. however when u have a "faux Christian" person like Bachmann, who stakes her entire political career on denouncing the federal government, and then she and her husband are feeding off the federal government, it's worth calling her out for her dishonesty.
I do not understand the problem here. It is simply not possible to be a Republican without being a hypocrite. Does this really surprise people?
Wikipedia will also tell you about the money Bachmann and her husband received for the "treatment center" they ran for their foster children, who were mostly teenage girls with eating disorders. Not the typical foster child situation, and not to say this wasn't legitimate, but then I'm a liberal. I'm all in favor of these kinds of programs. The surprise, of course, is that Bachmann is all in favor of them, especially after her vote in favor of the Ryan budget.
It's always calling them out for dishonesty with you libs, isn't it? You live for that line. All the while you never look at your own party for the crap they pull. Call away, I say. You don't get a vote. Not in the primaries... and by the time the real election comes around, all this crap will be forgotten history.
I have no problem with her family receiving aid, as long as it was legal and by the rules.
However, she should be completely honest and forthcoming, and hide nothing. Not doing so arouses suspicion.
Having said that, the radical right won't care either way. All they want is to remove "that guy" in the white house. Evidence: they have moved Bachmann to the front, even she is good enough in their eyes.
I imagine there are a lot of stinky details in her closet we will get to see during the next sixteen months.
I am actually glad that she is moving to the front of the pack. We will have the needed discussion in this country: are we going to try and replicate the 240 year old country of the founding fathers, or are we going to evolve our government as the world, our citizens and culture evolve?
Will we progress and survive, or will we allow a small, loud, old-fashioned and narrow-minded group take us down?
Sorry - but what I read into it is this, they want to remove the BLACK guy in the White House and NO amount of denial is going to change my mind!
I've talked to enough Teapublicans who were candid enough to SAY SO!
Michele Bachmann is THE Welfare Queen. She and her husband have been gaming government programs from foster child care, to grants, to Medicaid. Not only is the Medicaid an annual, ongoing source of income for them, she lied about the grant. She said the grant was for employees not the clinic, but with further investigation it's been learned that the clinic was given these funds with no knowledge of how the money was used.
So far none of these things have been investigated. But clinics are the number one source of Medicare fraud. And you know how Michele wanted investigative journalists to look into "un-American" members of Congress? Yeah, well someone needs to investigate her.
Brainb, Bachmann is a tax attorney. She probably did their tax return. It is a stretch that she did not know about his clinic's source of income.
Medicaid and Mn Care is health coverage for the most needy in our state. What gets me is that it is "Christian counseling clinic" This takes conversion therapy to a whole new level. I would love to hear from a LCP to speak to the so called Christian therapy techniques. the article also stated that payments were for the last six year. That would be under Pawlenty's administration, who in his last budget reduced funding for MN Care, did this include money for clinics like Mr. Bachmann.
The last point is her outspoken opposition for government, state or federal, to provide for the uninsured.Yet as Feisty says she is a corporate welfare queen.
Stay tuned, I know there is more to this story.
And Paul Ryan's college tuition was paid for by his father's Social Security death benefits. But he wants to deny today's kids federal help with college, and tells folks THEY should not depend on a safety net. The ironies keep piling up.
Even worse than Ryan's using Social Security money to pay for college is the fact that his grandmother received government funds -- presumably Social Security and Medicaid -- for her Alzheimers treatment, but he doesn't seem to be concerned that the vouchers he proposes would nowhere near provide enough money for other seniors to get similar care. Alzheimers is very expensive when the individual has to be institutionalized. How would anyone do that on a few thousand dollars a year? Try a few thousand dollars a month.
Conservatives often seem to disconnect from the reality of Ryan's proposals. After having these inconsistencies pointed out to them, the standard reply of "U-rah-rah cut spending" simply doesn't translate into the real world of seniors who will be cast adrift without a life raft into the indifference of the private sector health insurance market. Conservatives always tend to answer this conundrum with more sloganeering.
cen0181 -- With regard to President Obama, Amy's point involves hypocrisy. Democrats are not the ones complaining about government spending on entitlements. Sorry if this is too subtle for you to understand.
And speaking of "attacks," the above statement is, of course, nothing more than the garden variety ad hominem, used for diversionary purposes because you don't like the implications of the facts Amy refers to.
Don't know what an ad hominem is? Look it up. While you're at it, look up "pointing to another wrong." Both are logical fallacies, and both appear prominently in your post.
This is an example of the same hypocrisy embedded in cen0181's post. Republicans complain about money spent on social services while accepting the benefit of the money. Democrats don't complain about it. How hard is this to understand, anyway? After having us beat this into your head over and over again, one would think that eventually you would get the point. Unless you simply don't want to own up to it.
Yep, like the Republicans holding big checks and cutting ribbons on projects paid for from stimulus funds.
dayum, I suppose that's the going rate for mental therapy these days.
Why are the taxpayers paying for these kids medical. She adopted them, so they are her responsibilities, not yours or mine.
They were foster children.. wards of the state. You're ridiculous.
wow the libs are loving today
democracs = nasty people
republicans - stupid
that is my only choice, great
What a nice way to scam the system. Foster a bunch of kids and pretend to preform medical care and collect more of the taxpayers dollars.
Looks like the American people have uncovered another loophole in the system.
If they have foster kids that needed medical attention, then they should have taken the kids to a government doctor other than the Dr. Foster-parent Bachman.
I wonder just how much in foodstamps they collected as well by using these kids for their own personal gain?
sfcret
It's known as conflict of interest. We have no real knowledge that any medical services were even rendered by this Dr. Bachman. For all we know, they fostered these kids as many other people do just for the income and let the kids live on the bare minimum.
The kids should have been seen by a doctor outside of the family, not by the foster parents themselves that can write up and forge documents to collect funds.
If the country had medical for all, her husband (is he a real doctor?) would not be taking in medicaid reciprocates. They could go to an actual real doctor, like the rest of us can do. What is he a doctor of? What does he treat?
Just another politician that knows how to milk the system and then pretend that she hasn't. You can't believe a thing she says. She would fit right in, in Washington!
Bachmann sounds a lot like our beloved Republican Governor Rick Scott of Florida....
His healthcare companies rip seniors and the taxpayers out of millions of Medicare and Medicaid dollars in the 90's and afterwards he comes into office vowing to "cut government spending"
...I guess that's easy to say - once you've taken all of that government money for yourself
Sounds like Medicare fraud. Self-referral is explicitly prohibited. Religious teaching with government funds is explicitly prohibited. If she was a Democrat, I'm sure GOP TV/Foxy News would be demanding an indictment.
So what's the problem with her husband taking medicaid funding? Was there anything illegal with taking the payments? Why is this even a story, only to try and throw more garbage at Bachmann? When is MSNBC going to call out Obama for his stupid remark at Fort Drum, NY? If Bachmann or her family broke any laws then say so or admit this is just another NBC hit piece.
Well, for starters she HATES the gubment... unless of course they're writing checks to her and her swindler husband...
Second, she's ALL for decimating Medicaid... Get your GROUPONS here folks!
Thanks for playing! lol
Are you serious? She is making a huge point, again and again, attacking all those 'leaches' sucking on the government teat, and meanwhile, it seems that her own family is benefiting from the largess she so loudly denounces.
Wow, a healthcare facility accepting Medicaid patients! Stop the presses!
Of course, this is a win/win for Obama central-
Had they refused Medicaid patients, the headline would have been "Bachman's husband turns away poor patients".
Any "news" organization that extrapolates John Wayne Gacy from John Wayne will stoop to NOTHING to smear and attack. Did ANY of you take journalism 101?
It's called hypocrisy.
It is newsworthy because of her INSISTENCE that she/family did not benefit from it. And she has been actively AGAINST anyone receiving such same funding!
The main issue here is the "lying" about it. Why? If you won't own up to it, there must be something to hide?
Too stupid even for Feisty.
Or perhaps Feisty is advocating that doctors not accept medicare patients.
Where would she get her own treatment?
Poor Feisty, so clueless.
She hates the gubment? She hates it? Maybe that is liberal spin for she hates the way it is currently run amok. That's OK Carrot Top.... you can't play this game. You don't get a vote in the republican primaries... all you can do is sit on the sidelines and cast your dispariaging rocks... Your aim is bad and the rocks bounce off.
Just like Rand Paul the half assed doctor who rails against the Gubment! Until it pads his income! Poor NJNB your slip is showing and you have toilet paper stuck to your shoe! LMFAO
Please by all means continue to ride your one trick pony - people on this blog have your number and with each passing day laugh their asses of @ U and JS1 for your continued blatent LYING! ;o))))
Of course the point they are missing is you do not have to accept Medicare patients. No one twists your arm. You simply tell people you do not agree with the program and they need to go somewhere else. Unless of course you are a hypocrite.
I don't know about California, Spanky, and I sure don't know about Minnesota, but here in New Jersey doctors are MANDATED to take Medicaid.
Could/ might be the explanation. Course, First Read wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole.
Read my comment above.
Who said he is a doctor? Is he a MD.
Come on, whether it's Bristol Palin's teenage pregnancy and her mother Sarah preaching about abstinence, or rampant Republican sex scandals (where are things on Vitter'sresignation?) whole demanding resignations from Dems like Anthony Weiner, and now this with Teabagger Caucus Leader, Michele Bachmann crusading to to end entitlements like Medicare, the HYPOCRISY is the friggin' point.
The only hypocrites on here are Fiesty and her stupid liberal left wing friends. The rules say that doctors and clinics get medicaid if they treat the so called poor and uninsured people. I would like to see changes in a lot of government programs but I don't call the people hypocrites for taking advantage of them.
no jo no brains, you might want to look at this link before posting blatant lies on line. They make you look foolish.
http://www.lsnjlaw.org/english/governmentaid/resources/medical/index.cfm
You know whats really hypocritical? Spending 6 years calling Bush and Cheney "warmongers" then not saying **** when your party takes over and carries on the wars and and gets into a brand new one. What else? Hmmmm. Demanding Bush and Cheney be sent to Gitmo simply because it exists then not saying **** when your boy keeps it open. Want more?
You my friend are catching on - there is NO bigger liar on this site thenour very own NNB!
Not only have fellow posters shot her down in flames - the moderators have also given her a Pinocchio or two! LMAO
So damaged brain, what you are saying is you cannot understand the continuity of the American Government. Once we start something it is very difficult to change course without making us look like idiots. Once a President starts something, unless it is total lunacy, they rest that follow have to stay the course to maintain our credibility. Use your head for something other than a hat rack.
What is a clinical therapist, is this guy an MD or a faith healer? How do you cure mental illness with religion? Would the Bacmanns be ok with taxpayers paying for some Muslim counseling to cure mental health problems?
Well sfcret, that is the difference between you and I. When people participate in programs they do not believe in, I call them hypocrites. You may not because you want to believe you have been right your whole life, but the fact is you are wrong. If you do not stand up to the government and tell them they are wrong, nothing will ever change. As long as you have your hand out taking the money, the government will think you are happy and nothing will change. Just suppose we woke up tomorrow and no doctor would accept Medicaid. Don't you think the program would be over? Problem is with greed, that will never happen.
Forest, Mr. Bachmann (LCP) is a licensed clinical psychologist. He has a PhD and can in MN receive third party payment for services ie. insurance.
NNNJ, In MN a therapist does not have to take insurance or any patient for that matter.Again my point: Bachmann as a fundamental Christian does not believe in evolution and now her family income also includes government money for a CHRISTIAN counseling clinic. Why the name Christian? Christianity is a religion. Counseling in this context is called "spiritual guidance" and those who practice it do not receive government monies.
One other question scfret.
a. Employee A works at a company A that provides health care insurance for their employees.
b. Employee B works at a company B that does not provide health insurance for their employees.
c. Employee C works at a company C that provides health care for their employees and provides the same services as Company B but at a higher price to pay for the health insurance of their employees.
OK, Employee A goes to purchase a product and chooses Company B's product over Company C because it is cheaper. Employee A is dead set against the Government trying to level the playing field by providing health insurance for all.
Here is the question. Be carefull because it will tell a lot about you as a person.
Is Employee A a hypocrite?
And maybe THAT is conservative double-speak for she hates government spending that she doesn't benefit from personally.
Your link is deliberately misleading.
New jersey mandated all doctors who accepted any health insurance plan accept one of the Medicaid HMOs back in 1995.
http://www.lsnjlaw.org/english/healthcare/medicaid/medicaidhist/index.cfm
So, you can choose to participate in one, two, or all six- but you MUST accept at least one.
No joe, just more lies. You said Doctors are required to accept. Not true. The same website you quote says it is hard to find a doctor that will take Medicaid. Why would they contradict themselves. You just can't change the facts to make yourself look smart when you are not. Believe it or not, not all doctors belong to HMO's. All doctors would mean all doctors. No exceptions. Thanks for playing.
no joe -- I don't see anything in the linked article about mandatory participation by PROVIDERS. In particular, this language appears to suggest strongly that participation by providers is optional, and that the only thing required is that RECIPIENTS join an HMO that contracts with the state to provide Medicaid services, of which there are about a half dozen. And that, in turn, implies that there are other HMOs that don't provide Medicaid services. Otherwise, there would be no need to require recipients to use certain HMOs. If all HMOs were required to accept Medicaid patients, recipients could use ANY HMOs.
The point was that the real "John Wayne" had nothing to do with Waterloo, Iowa. Only John Wayne Gacy was associated with Waterloo. The media didn't make the mistake of extrapolating a mistaken association. That was Bachmann herself. I've seen the video. A fairly substantial slip for her research staff to have made, given that there is NO connection between John Wayne the actor and Waterloo. You may not like it, but it is NOT the media's fault. It is solely and completely Bachmann's fault.
Anna, the sad part about no joe is that if the government did require participation, he/she would be up in arms about government mandates. It is funny how some conservatives try to justify their cause by ignoring everything they have ever said.
Feisty,
You my friend are catching on - there is NO bigger liar on this site thenour very own NNB!
Not only have fellow posters shot her down in flames - the moderators have also given her a Pinocchio or two! LMAO
What moderators? are you actually saying we have moderators here on FR? I am thinking not, because if there where, you would be long go.
Anna,
OK, Bachmann made a mistake, but the bias media is running with it' Where is the story on Obama, that was pretty bad.
Anna,
Sorry, I swore that I would never use that tired argument (well he did it to). Please disregard.
I'll bet it cost less to finance the Bachmans endeavours than it cost to send Michelle Obama to Africa to sight-see.
They All look innocent and cute while trying to run for Office for the White House...but where are the skeletons? Could it be there are skeletons in "Bachmann Closets to?" They always show up at the darn-est times. I wonder what's going to show up in her closet?
and I'm wondering which member of the GOP lineup is going to be the one to open that closet and haul out the bodies so they can get her out of the race.
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Just because he get's paid by Medicaid does not mean he has to think it's a perfect program. Lots of doctors take Medicaid and Medicare, but see the flaws. In fact, the only way to know the flaws, is to participate.
Mike,
Under the moonbat logic, Republicans are hypocrites if they drive on public roads, because the wonderful Government gave it to us. How dare anyone criticize the wonderful loving Nanny State!
Their idea is if you take one cent from the State in any form, earned or otherwise you lose the First Amendment. You cant dare criticize their Daddy, the Government. You have to shut up and be quiet and become dependent drone like these moonbats....for fear of being a "hypocrite"...
Yeah. If I hear one more of these simpletons scream "well then we better do away with the fire dept and police dept in your neighborhood etc..." I'm gonna go out on the street and slap a liberal just for my health.
What’s with you right-wingers? Compare vacations and playing golf to other administrations and you’d see that Dubya and others hold the record. You are so lame as to use red herrings like this, and as if one evil cancels out another evil, and when in reality it is a petty non-issue. Stay germane, and tell us how Michele Bachmann is NOT a @#$%&! Hypocrite.
Mike, why would you participate in a program you do not believe in unless you are a hypocrite? Do you need me to provide you with the defination of a hypocrite? OK
1
: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2
: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
bingo we have a winner!
or they can just do research
I assume NBC will also be looking at the millionaire senators who are against the Bush tax cuts to see if they take advantage of it. No? Didn't think so.
How about Bill Gates and Warren Buffet? I know they're saying they can afford the tax. Are they paying it? Inquiring minds want to know.
So what is your point? Paying the taxes you are required to by the Federal Government and telling what a bargain they are compared to the benefits you can acquire is not wrong. Most people, you included, do not realize that the individuals in this country that acquire great wealth, do so in part because of the great infrastructure we have in the United States. Let that infrastructure crumble and the path to great wealth will be diminished. So yes, there are individuals in this country that realize that their ability to create wealth is tied to a healthy government and someone has to pay for it.
My point is if NBC is investigating these too. Or is it just Republicans/conservatives? It's a rhetorical question.
dean, get a grip. No one is investigating anyone here. The article simply says that MB's husband takes Medicaid payments and Michelle thinks they are the root of all evil and the people using Medicaid are lazy bums. Those of us that can add 2 + 2 say that equals hyprocorcy.
"Michelle thinks they are the root of all evil and the people using Medicaid are lazy bums."
is there a quote?
"No one is investigating anyone here."
just smearing
journalism graduate class
Well there's a surprise a lying, hypocritical Republican. Next you'll have me believe water is wet.
Sarah Palin......part two!
It is not that there was anything illegal is what her husband is doing, it is that he is benefiting (therefore so is she) from a program that she thinks is a waste of taxpayers money.
Gee, a professional liar by trade not telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I've said it before and I'l keep saying till the day I die: Democrat or Republican, it really doesn't matter because their both just opposite ends of the same turd so watch where you step.
So, not only is this consummate air head a committed Socialist (pigs and medicaid, guffaw!), but she feels vulnerable enough to spin a few lies about it as well.
We'll most enjoy the antics of "Church Lady" Bachmann through the coming years of economic depression and American cultural decay.
sfcret, open the dictionary and look up hypocrisy and then you will understand the point of this article. Better yet, allow me.
Hypocrite:
1
: a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2
: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
If Bachmann is so ardent and vocal against what she considers to be government handouts and then turns around and applies for and takes said government handouts, then she is the very definition of a hypocrite. DUH!
"The figures were provided to NBC News in response to a Freedom of Information request. "
And did NBC News pass it right along to their masters at the White House?
Do your homework sweetcakes. NBC is owned by GE!!
morning joe show they blackberry each other
GE is that a good thing
They Rasberryed Bachmann HA.
Wow - taking medicaid payment for treating patients or training staff - such a terrible, evil man!! 'NO Jo' has a point - if the mental health provider-husband refused medicaid patients, what would the headline be on this site? If I'm reading this correctly that's a grand total of $22,800 per year for people who got mental health help in this clinic, or to train caregivers. In a year that may help pay a portion of the salary of one aide, or the utilities for the office for a year. Wow. Scandal. There are orthodontists who take medicaid and make upwards of $600K per year on their medicaid patients. Who is doing the society a better service, the one who is helping upgrade their mental state, or the one straightening their teeth??
Well WTF, gotta love the handle!
However, the "crown jewel" of Michele Bachmann's hypocrisy is that she will gleefully fly home to her district and rail against Medicare and Medicaid for other people — while her husband just rakes in the coin from that same welfare program!
Pathetic, transparent dishonesty.
Reterry - glad you love the handle - most people don't get it, but I fly airplanes so, figured.... WTF.....say what needs to be said.
Yes, I agree in part - Ms Bachman appears to be hypocritical; BUT - the point I was trying to make (note nothing said about MB) is that there is an insanity level that seems to be afoot in medicaid reimbursement - specifically - that is unsustainable. This is what those who are saying "it needs 'fixin' ......truly needs attention. It doesn't matter if one is republican or democrat - can you support fixing crooked teeth ad infinitum, but not give a legitimate professional the reasonable reimbursement ($22,8/year ....reallly?) they request for treating patients with mental health needs or training staff to do same? I'm skeptical of ALL of these folks - and the answers are painful, no matter which flag you fly.
Does the dentist in your example call herself a Christian dentist? That is my point.
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot-2022634
If you spin any harder you are going to achieve liftoff!! Either you remain true to your ideology or you are a hypocrite. Either he took the loot or he didn't. Period,...and we're done here.
Another right-wing ding-a-ling bites the dust.
AHEM,....NEXT SHOOTER?!
connieslapper, it's just that cut and dried
nothing more
yet GE owns this site and you participate, therefore you are a repub because only repubs like GE
thanks for the stupid analogy, it works for me, dork
Hey FoozBall:
Vision test: How many fingers am I holding up? :o)
the only difference is is that this so called mental health clinic is a christian mental health clinic, what would you be saying if muslim mental health clinics started popping up and receiving funds from the government.
Interesting - bachmans husband treats the sick and poor but the FR libs think its immoral to have him accept reimbursement. What's next, democrat sponsered death panels telling the elderly, sick and poor that they can't seek medical help unless the healthcare professional is a liberal?
Amazing that the headline implies a different story than that actually reported.
you don't know what you are talking about he runs a christian mental health organization and many doctors don't accept medicaid
Remember conservatives: What may be a big deal to moonbat leftwingers and their media (like MSNBC) is very often no big idea to normal, regular Americans.
Bachmann & Associates, the clinic founded by Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist
The clinic, based in Lake Elmo, Minn., describes itself on its website as offering "quality Christian counseling" for a large number of mental health problems ranging from "anger management" to addictions and eating disorders.
What is a clinical therapist, is this guy an MD or a faith healer? How do you cure mental illness with religion? Would the Bacmanns be ok with taxpayers paying for some Muslim counseling to cure mental health problems?
Let us pray and give thanks: thank You Baby Jesus! for $260,000 in federal farm subsides, thank you Jesus for $161,000 from the state of MN, thank you heavenly father for $137,000 from medicaid.
The power of prayer as a cure for mental health disorders did not work on Bacmann's lying and kleptomania of the big government programs and spending she rails about.
Now lets turn to page 31 in your hymnal and all sing "Bringing In The Sheaves"
FORREST,....STOP IT,....YOU'RE KILLING ME,....YOU'RE KILLING ME!!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Forrest, My point exactly!!!!
Funny!!!!
I believe a much bigger hypocrisy was Obama saying he's not against war, just "stupid wars", then goes and involves us in a STUPID WAR in Libya trying to peotect people who gave a huge parade for the Pan Am 103 bomber and who celebrated on 9/11.
The leftwingers have replaced their Bush Derangement Syndrome with a Derangement Syndrome based on a seemingly daily change-off of people they hate. This week and for some time into the forseeable futre, the crazies here will be suffering from BDS - Bachmann Derangement Syndrome. This will cause the Bachmann-hating news staff at MSNBC to daily post some story designed to damage Bachmann in some way. The ususal crazies will come on here and cheer and gloat...for no reason.
Michelle Bachmann is smarter and politically savvier than all you lefties on here put together. In her career she's eaten lightweights like you for breakfast. It'll take a lot more than some NONtroversy like this to bring her down. Thanks for playing.
If she was,....she wouldn't have painted herself into this corner,..... porkchop!! Think it over.
So, are you saying she will be the nominee? Despite Chris Wallace's kowtowing, she really is a flake. Maybe she can be Sara's VP.
If you take away empathy, compassion and anything vaguely resembling rationality whats left is a conservative.
That's about as descriptive of conservatives as you can get.
i bet you think that makes you sound smart you have no premise, no point, and libya isn't a war 1diot its a joint NATO operation
How convenient..he gets a state grant .... hmmmmmmmmmm!
This hypocrisy is unpleasant but not surprising, given what we already know about the Family Values candidate. Here's something even more revolting that I haven't seen mentioned outside of Minnesota: Michele's original political mentor, William Pulkrabek, who is currently a County Commissioner in Washington County (one of Minnesota's larger counties, between St. Paul and the Wisconsin line) was recently arrested for throwing his girlfriend downstairs. Check it out on the website of the Twin Cities' premier free newspaper, City Pages: If you prefer to get your news only from certifiably establishment sources, here's how the Star Tribune covered the same story: .
He is going to need some Christian counsenling for his mental heath issues with anger management. Whenever you are about to throw a girl down a flight of stairs stop and remember Jesus loves you.
Public Servant, I am waiting for the press to connect the dots to Bachmann's support of Bradlee Dean, the guest chaplain at the State legislature. He showed up in track suit, and gave a speech about Obama not being a Christian. Goggle this guy. He is a piece of work.
. The Speaker of the House formally apologized.
The media really just needs to stop wasting the energy for internet and television or the ink and paper for print media that's required for the these stories and just include a running tagline or scroll across the bottom of the screen that says "Republican / Tea Party = Hypocrite". There is no longer any story with this - it's not a revelation - it has become a law of nature - like one of Newton's Laws or the gravitational constant. There's no need to reiterate this fact - it just is.
ir12~ You lash out at somebody telling them to use their head for "something other than a hat rack". You later say "ALL Republicans are hypocrites" in a different post. Are you serious? Are you using your head when you make blanket statements like this? One word for you... HYPOCRITE
OK, show me a Republican that is not a hypocrite and I will admit I am wrong. I do have a test they will need to pass. Plus anyone that has a I've got mine, just try to get yours mentality will fail. My game, my rules. If you would like to play, I am ready.
I should add that they will have to agree with the Republican platform and the agenda currently be presented. Simply calling yourself a Republican because you liked Ronald Regan will not count.
OK, maybe you do not want to play. I may have been a bit overzealous. I guess I should have said that I do not know any Republicans that are not hypocrites. My wife is a perfect example. A staunch Republican. Except she does not believe in anything in the Republican platform. When you try to pin down her beliefs, the only thing she can come up with is she thinks George W Bush is cute. Go figure. You could ask my brother-in-law who believes every illegal immigrant in the US is collecting welfare and enjoying unlimited medical benefits at the expense of the Government. I don't pay much attention to him. How many of your relatives are Republicans working under the table and not reporting their income or paying their taxes. Give me a break. Do I believe all Republicans are hypocrites, no, just the majority of them that I have talked to.
By the way hombre, did you agree with damaged brain that the President should have pulled all troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan on the second day he was in office? I mean there are reasons to question the intelligence of some people.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
I don't know about you other Liberals,....but you just CANNOT make this stuff up!!
Poetry. Absolute poetry!!!