He's in Dallas. Lets find some rope.

@DaveT - Dont be too surprised when the Secret Service knocks on your door....

I find this very frightening but then again I have always said that we have the best of the worst governments. What a price to pay for personal greed? As citizens we are hoarded into cattle troufs and told what, when, where, why we must do as the people during the hitler reign did, and where did it get them. In the US, please americans, know that there is evil among many who have the power, they are in with other evil people from other countries. It is a dog eat dog world anymore, don't let something such as this investigation go unheeded, there has to be truth in it somewhere. People must dig deeper even if it becomes an embarrassment to them about their own country. It is not the country, it is the power hungry, greedy need for money people, and they all appear so upstanding, not so, research and you will see.

Dave T,

When they do knock on your door don't lie...tell them how stupid you really are. If anyone ever posts such harmful things about any public person they should get a one way trip to prison, even just to wake them up.

I've often wondered if most of the hijackers were Saudi, why we went to war against Afghanistan and then Iraq.

lynseypug: A very good post . I thought all of the hijackers were Saudi Arabian . The Ignoring of this fact of Saudi involvement by The U. S government and the absolute blackout by the Press makes a strong case for U.S. complicity in this horrible event ...

I haven't a clue what the motives for 9/11 were. I do know the official presentations of the parts fitting into the whole, which support the event are laughable.

The main motives for the 9/11 attacks were 1) Non-Muslim troops in the Islamic holy-land of Saudi Arabia, 2) the meddling in the internal affairs of the vast majority of Muslim countries, 3) US support for dictators and tyrants in the region, including the Saudi family, 4) The US dismissing and sidelining the Palestinians and seemingly taking sides in the ongoing Israeli/Palestinian problem... Those are stated reasons from Al Qaeda, not my own opinions.

Just don't buy the "they attacked us because of our freedom" nonsense. That's such an ignorant non-answer. It's not true, even if the attackers don't like our system of government and civil liberties. They would never have attacked us id we weren't sticking our nose into their business. I sure am not condoning or supporting what the terrorists did in any way. I'm just stating what Sun Tzu said so long ago..."Know your enemy!"

Also, the mass majority of insurgents into Iraq were Saudi.

I think the Bin Laden family was at the white house on 9/11 morning having breakfast. There's was the only plane allowed to fly out of the country on that day. When all planes were grounded.

Although the Bush ties to the Saudi's isn't mainstream knowledge it isn't a secret either. In my investigation into the Tea Party I have ran across a bundle of info about ties starting with Grover Norquist introducing a Saudi to the powerbrokers of D.C. It seems these ties go back to Georger H.W. let me paste some of what I've uncovered.

Although Brisard's interpretation of events has been disputed, the documentation of Forbidden Truth is impeccable. Clearly, the finances and fortunes of the Saudi oligarchs and the Bush family have been intertwined for many years, and oil has been the lubricant of choice, even non-existent oil.
Never before in history has a president of the United States had such a close relationship with another foreign power as President Bush and his father have had with the Saudi royal family, the House of Saud. I have traced more than $1.4 billion in investments and contracts that went from the House of Saud over the past 20 years to companies in which the Bushes and their allies have had prominent positions -- Harken Energy, Halliburton, and the Carlyle Group among them.

From: The Bush-Saudi Connection......google it.

Then there's this:

Atlas Shrugs

Pamela Geller Blog....google it.

Wednesday, July 13, 2011

Feds want to cut 23-year prison sentence of Grover Norquist's pal, Hamas-linked one-time leading U.S. "moderate" Muslim

Hamas-tied Islamic supremacist Abdurahman Alamoudi is Grover Norquist's good buddy and partner. He is serving 23 years. Now federal prosecutors are asking a judge to cut his prison term. Who is behind that?

Above checks are monies Alamoudi gave to Grover Norquist. (checks would not forward, google site to see)

Back in 2009, Insight magazine wrote:

Norquist was Alamoudi’s most influential Washington facilitator, authorities believe, noting that Norquist reminds friend and foe alike that he is close to the president’s powerful political strategist, Karl Rove.

Norquist, who previously has denied any suggestion that his work facilitated any wrongdoing, not only introduced Alamoudi to Washington GOP power circles but also Sammy Al Arian, whom prosecutors arrested earlier this year for alleged terrorist activities.

Federal law-enforcement sources say they are focusing on some of Norquist’s associates and financial ties to terrorist groups.
Alamoudi and other Muslim leaders met with Bush in Austin in July [2000], offering to support his bid for the White House in exchange for Bush’s commitment to repeal certain antiterrorist laws.
A photo of the Austin event shows Bush with Alamoudi standing over his left shoulder, flanked by the former head of the Pakistani Communist Party, several open supporters of the Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist groups and other individuals Insight is trying to identify.

But the one-time high-flyer last week signed a plea agreement with the U.S. government admitting his multiple crimes in return for a reduced sentence.
His confession makes for startling reading.

Alamoudi acknowledges having obtained money from the Libyan government and other foreign sources, “unlawfully, knowingly, and willfully falsified, concealed and covered up by a trick, scheme and device.”

He transmitted these funds to the United States, “outside of the knowledge of the United States government and without attracting the attention of law enforcement and regulatory authorities.”

In doing so, he engaged in illegal financial transactions and filed false tax returns.

He lied about his overseas travels, his interest in a Swiss bank account, his affiliation with a Specially Designated Terrorist (the Hamas leader, Mousa Abu Marzook), and his membership in terrorist-related organizations. [...]

Then there is the fact that Alamoudi’s Palm Pilot, seized at the time of his arrest, contained contact information for seven men designated as global terrorists by U.S. authorities

Following the trail goes on and on. The names to follow are Abramoff, DeLay, Rove and Norquist. And then there's this which makes one wonder:

It is thought to have been the biggest international cash airlift of all time, when $12billion in aid was flown by the Bush administration to postwar Iraq.

And now, for the first time, investigators auditing the cash have admitted that more than half of that huge amount may have been stolen when it got there in 'the largest theft of funds in national history'.
The Pentagon is finally closing the books on the reconstruction program in Iraq but still cannot say what happened to $6.6 billion of the money.

Read more: #ixzz1WQiL6SwI

Paul Richter (no relation!) of the Los Angeles Times announced this financial fiasco in a June 2011 story that boggles the mind. It seems that some of our best and brightest bean counters figured out they could fit $2.4 billion in shrink-wrapped bricks of hundred dollar bills into a C130 transport plane, and right then and there they created a new monetary unit of measurement. They sent over five C130s, which everyone knows is $12 billion, right after Saddam Hussein was captured. Let’s figure out where that money went, okay?

Read more: #ixzz1WQhMjVQ5

Robot writes, "The Ignoring of this fact of Saudi involvement by The U. S government and the absolute blackout by the Press makes a strong case for U.S. complicity in this horrible event ...'

It doesn't, really. 9/11 was a disaster that Bush/Cheney were willing to exploit but only someone who doesn't understand the depth of Bush/Cheney incompetence (or is paranoid) thinks they were complicit prior to 9/11.

In the Boston Globe, March 11, 20004, Carl Unger, author of House of Bush, House of Saud: The Secret Relationship Between the World's Two Most Powerful Dynasties, states that the 9/11 commission should ask who authorized the evacuation of 140 Saudi nationals on at least 8 aircraft making stops in 12 cities immediately following the attacks. "Many of the passengers were high-ranking members of the royal House of Saud. About 24 of them were members of the bin Laden family, which owned the Saudi Binladin Group, a multibillion-dollar construction conglomerate." Unger obtained passenger lists for 4 of the flights, which are posted on his website: www.houseofbush.com and includes the name of Prince Ahmed bin Salman.

Google: Bush-Saudi Connection

I've often wondered if most of the hijackers were Saudi, why we went to war against Afghanistan and then Iraq

I really agree, although I can see SOMEWHAT Afghanistan -- as that's where the terrorists operated with at least the tacit agreement (if not approval) of the government. As to Iraq, no tie WHATSOEVER to 9-11, no matter what we were told at the time.

I say waterboard Bush and Cheney and we will find out what they know!

Bush's presidency had not really failed by September 2001. It was Cheney's presidency for the first couple of years, anyway.

johnb - uh, you do realize that Bush was inaugurated in January, 2001, don't you? He had not even been in office for 8 months when 9/11 occurred. That's hardly enough time to pass judgement on whether his presidency was a failure.

Interesting. the GOP was on Obama after a day

I guess you missed all the airplane debris clearly marked in American airlines colors on the videos. BTW missles don't have landing gear you must have missed those too!

Nancy Reagan said it first....Just say no to drugs.

Oh and here comes the black helicopters to take away my guns and I think there were 2 gun men on the grassy knoll

And here come the walking dead, clueless and complacent, oblivious to the NWO, staggering drunk on what the TV and MSM tells them, proud-to-be-ignorant flag waving uninformed sheep. Wake up you cowards, we need you, to.

Can you say "Coocoo for Coco Puffs!"?

Devil'sSOn

That's the problem -- there was NO evidence of an airliner hitting the Pentagon, not one that leave no trace of landing gear, engines, tail, wings, etc...., or one that initially makes only one 15" diameter hole in the wall!!

Or, maybe it is you who missed the pictures of the immediate aftermath of the hit on the Pentagon?

There was no plane that hit the Pentagon, and only a hole in the ground where the plane supposedly hit the Pennsylvania field...

But, just sticking to the Pentagon -- go view "Loose change and other films and archives... and try to find one, only one picture of any plane, landing gear at either site.

THERE ARE NONE!!

if the government wanted to launch a foriegn war they wouldn't bomb the pentagon. and try telling people who lost loved ones on flight 93 that their friends and family members didn't really die in that field, they just dissappeared, along with the plane they were on

"I think anyone with two brain cells to rub together"

I seems from your post that you must be down to one.......Alas, .....brain cells are a sad thing to waste...........

OMG - what about the people who SAW the plane go in, and don't tell me they were all planted stooges, its just not plausible. Its too open an area with too much constant traffic to be controlled in any manner. we have trouble keeping real secrets, let alone one this size with the number of people it would require to be involved to carry it off. The idea of conspiracies is way too easy when you don't have to sit down and actually count up the people who would need to be involved, and then believe that they would actually do such a thing.

Turn in your copy of A Catcher in the Rye.

It seems funny there not more survilence camers running,even though the constuction was there,allI ever seen is that grainny hard to make out one.Something just don't add up.

OBXRon, another head-in-the-sand drone, or paid shill to twist and annex the truth. Either way, I feel sorry for you.

This isn't too far fetched. Do a search on Operation Northwoods, which came into light after the Freedom of Information Act. Proposals to President JFK that called for the CIA, or other operatives, to commit acts of terrorism in Miami and Washington D.C. and try to make it look like the Cubans did it, in order to get the American people on their side for going to war with Cuba. Sound familiar? This is not a conspiracy theory. These are public documents released by our government. A simple Google search and you'll easily find it. Luckily JFK turned down the proposals, but I think he was a more decent man than either of the Bushes.

Sorry Se777en, I thought everyone knew about Operation Northwoods, and the criminal Neocon Regime (including Obama and the Clintons).

Did you not see VIDEO footage of two planes striking the tower? Did you not hear the terrified voices of callers? Did you not hear the terrified airline flight attendant calling because the pilot was unresponsive?

There is a BUNCH OF UNPHOTOSHOPPED IMAGES OF 9.11 - original, raw, material that showed what happened showed planes being flown into the buildings.

If you are so unhappy here in the United States, willing to believe that these events occurred because of your own government then why live here?

OH WAIT! You wouldn't have the freedom of speech to get your criticism out there anywhere else!

I'm not disagreeing with you that the government hasn't done messed up things( I believe the CIA need to be reigned in and not be able to conduct their affairs so freely) but I don't believe the government would've killed almost 3000 of their own to be involved in TWO WARS. I mean way to bankrupt the country right?

RageAgainstThem - you need to come up out of your parents' basement every now and then, and get some fresh air. You mind is beginning to mold from the dampness.

Rage it appears is a total paranoid person. I like how when someone doesn't agree with your debunked theories you call them shills and paid off. We are all paid cause we are really out their to get you. Quick look in your bushes. They are watching you. And I hope you posted this on someone else's computer or else they will find you for speaking! What makes me really sick is that all the phone calls to people from the planes and families that lost loved ones are all in on it. No one has come forth of the thousands it would take and say where all those passengers are really living o some island right?

Danielle , re:5.14: " but I don't believe the government would have killed almost 3000 people of their own to be involved in two wars..." Danielle they might not have wanted that particular reaction from The Saudi Syndicate, but because of an ' intentional aggression ' initiated by the U.S. albeit the Texas Syndicate , knowing full well that The Saudis would respond violently. To say , they , (the CIA ?) , procured a violent reaction in order to undermine the Saudi control and be able to extort the Saudis position , (wealth , military presence , etc.) That would explain the Silence as to Saudi involvement in the 9/11 terrorism. It would also explain the invasion of Afghanistan and Irak even though the militarism or ability to carry out such a horriffic act does not lie with those two nations. That Invasion of those two countries might have been the extorted price that the Saudis paid Bush and his cohorts. Did Bush and his Cohorts expect a violence of 9/11? No! According their hoodlum-ism though , they did expect some form of violent terrorism that would let them invade the region. Just that they chose Iraq , along with Afghanistan , is further proof of the Bush family gangster mind , ( the venegance of the military man to get back to Iraq , i.e. the Kuwait fiasco , and the cohort intelligence surrounding Afghanistan and their notorious drug trafficking ! The undermining of Our system of democracy and democratic principles and justice by The Bush organization , gives credence to this very believable scenario , to say , the gangsterism is evident...

RageAgainstThem,

Oh, stop it. I've been hearing the same old tired cliched "another mindless drone, I feel sorry for you sheep" billsh*t for years now. If you have nothing to produce an effective rebuttal against what is said to you then shut up, but don't think that by calling someone a sheep you're going to convince them that you're right and they're wrong.

In my opinion you're the sheep. You and all the New World Order/Illuminati/Bilderberg crowd. In fact, you're so incredibly sheepish that you all sound the same. You start all high and mighty with your enlightening, yet ominous theories, belittling anyone who even dares to mildly disagree with you. You lay it all out there, and if someone says he isn't fully convinced you "lament" how sucked into "the system" they are and how they're the perfect example of what the NWO/Bilderbergs/Illuminati want people to be like. Then someone with some neurons left in their brain pokes a couple of holes in your theory and suddenly you're too good to even argue with them. You, the enlightened one, the one who is so concerned with saving the world and informing us sheep, suddenly just do NOT want to argue with someone who is so insultingly obtuse and stubborn as to point out inconsistencies with your logic.

In a sense, predictability is the mark of a true sheep, and I'm afraid to tell you, you are the single most predictable kind of person I know. You, sir, are a COOKIE-CUTTER conspiracist, a poor bastard with absolutely no capacity to think for himself. You are an identity-less drone among MILLIONS who babble all the SAME sh*t tirelessly all over the Internet. So please choose something else to pick on us with, because you're in no position to call ANYONE a sheep or a drone.

And for the record, there are plenty of pictures that show debris clearly coming from an exploded aircraft on the Pentagon crash site. Also plenty of videos showing witnesses to the plane's descending onto the Pentagon and crashing there.

Video, phone calls from passengers, collaboration from loved ones, verified debris, tracked and missing airline flights, witnesses on the ground, absolutely no compelling contradicting EVIDENCE.

Shut... Up... You disrespect our brothers and sisters that died that day.

I don't believe the government would've killed almost 3000 of their own to be involved in TWO WARS

I don't believe 9/11 was an "inside job," but I have absolutely no difficulty believing our government would kill 3,000 US citizens for their own purposes. To people like Cheney and Rumsfeld, the ends easily justify the means.

If y'all want to do something about it besides venting your anger, check Sen Mike Gravel's website and his independent investigation of 9-11. Join us in our effort to find the truth and disclose the findings to the American people.

In my previous post , #5.17 , there is a misspelling in this sentence : " Just as they chose Iraq , along with Afghanistan , is further proof of The Bush Family gangster mind ,( the vengeance of 'the military man to get back to Iraq , i.e. the Kuwait fiasco , and the covert intelligence surrounding Afghanistan and its notorious drug trafficking ) ! " In the previous post I misspelled the word 'covert' and it appears as 'cohort'...

AndresTM,

Its a fact that paid shills troll comment sections around the web to quell dissent with quips like "Kool-aid, basement dwelling, tin foil hat, or up your meds" rhetoric, without giving specific rebuttle.

Even without 9-11, take a serious look around at what is happening. Everything going on, from false flag events, Imperialism, and MSM that spews endless lies is straight from the Socialist Nazi Party Handbook.

Not sure why you feel the need to attack me, I've given just a few facts. You've told me nothing that would disprove my view that a criminal cabal within the U.S. Government exists, and in fact had a significant role of the happenings of 9-11.

haha. nice liz.

that is what i was wondering. maybe they are at disney world for a few days.

I have been a victim of government works and know that the people in Florida are in danger and someone really needs to check on them, CONSTANTLY. I have since left the US and know for a fact that our government does things that you cannot imagine. Look at Cheney and waterboarding, we have always been a low as other governments, we were always made to believe we were so righteous, well they all have tried to take God out of our country because they know what lies ahead and it is not a pretty sight to see. I do believe that people in power who have money in this country, will exceed and go as far as taking the lives of the very citizens who voted them into office. This is a wake up call when you go to vote, you wouldn't believe just how far these tyrannts will go. Research for yourself and the power of knowledge will set you free or in this case you will end up dead. Burying your head in the sand is to no avail, stand united and fight the evil that serves it's master. Wake up America and smell the coffee you drink everyday and know that these things are happening and in your own country. Don't point the finger at other countries when there is so much evil right in your own backyard. Clean up your own pollution, there is still a chance. Find it in prayer to whatever God you seek, Mine is in Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior.

Liz, and JohnLaz, if you read the article, they fled the country, back to Saudi Arabia, and haven't returned. Just FYI.

suzanne - you are nuts.

Research for yourself and the power of knowledge will set you free or in this case you will end up dead.

I hear and understand you loud and clear Suzanne.

no the oil is in the sand. its only in the waters around America

Because to publish the engineering probabilities would involve also being added to a 'list". Fear silences voices that could ignite public fury or revolt.

Look at the photos of the Pentagon. You see the hole from the nose of the plane. But, the 6 ton engines on the wings didn't even make a dent? Maybe it wasn't a "plane".

That should be coup d'etat, not "cout de ta". Your argument would be much more convincing if you could spell. Otherwise, you sound like any other illiterate redneck who drank too much of your own moonshine that was not properly distilled.

UMGator.....your response was exactly what people do when they want to deflect what's being said. I have come to believe in my limited knowledge that 9-11 was perhaps done in retaliation of a Bush family/Cheney deal gone bad. And then they capitalized on it.

Here is one of the methods used when GOPTP hear what they don't want to:

If you find yourself in a debate with a Liberal where you are losing a fact-based argument then call them a name to derail their diatribe. Remember your goal is toprevent a meaningful exchange of views and ideas which may portray Liberalism in a positive light.

Your goal as a conservative blogger is to stop the spread and advance of the Liberal agenda. Play upon any identifiable idiosyncrasies, character flaws, physical traits, names, to their disadvantage
Monitor other posts for vulnerabilities you can exploit. Stay on the offensive with Liberal wimps. Don't let up. Insult their Movement Assign as many character and moral flaws to Liberals as you can.

Thanks Adam and Se777en for giving me new avenues to look down.

Actually it is "cout de ta" in English. French term is spelled "coup d'état" which means to "hit the state". Your spelling is literally a French word and NOT English. Unlike most liberals English is my first language.

Any comment on the content or do you just race around adding your perceived and mistaken spelling or semantics corrections? I would be happy to engage you on content but this is as far as I go on educating you on spelling and the "English" language.

I have no problem with the spelling either way. And am familiar with the meaning of the word through long study of crises and upheavals, some French. Obfuscation of Financial and Audit records is the real issue presented...quit the hair splitting UMGator. We are on the same page. No need to side track.

Point well taken Adams101...that Rumsfeld disclosure was worth knowing. Though not surprised. These are not good people, not as friend, nor foe. Just stay away from such.

Thanks.

you reveal how totally nuts you are.

Bush Sr was no longer part of Caryle in 2001

and how about the engines from the planes found at both NY and PA? did black helicopters drop them in?

Larry Robinson: The engines were not brought in by black helicopters. They were drayed by purple trucks and covered by beige tarpolians. Hee hee. Continue with your comic book.

Mac - that should be tarpaulins, not "tarpolians". Like I told Adams101, your argument would be much more convincing if you could spell. Otherwise, you sound like any illiterate redneck who dropped out of elementary school.

U M Gator: You sure about that "Bunkie"? How do you know I didn't spell it that way on purpose? Understanding the dimness of the "dimwit" to whom I was replying , I almost wrote "tarps". Truth is though, I did misspell the word as you indicate. Even so, you apparently grabbed my meaning therefore all is not lost. I suppose you're telling me "like you told "Adams 101"? Ha ha ha, umm. Elementary school dropout huh? Ha,ha,ha,ho,ho,ha, ha, umm, ah, you're a mess there Gator.

Actually, I heard (don't know if it is true or not), that somewhere along the family tree, the 2 families had an interracial marriage of some sort, so they think of each other as family in more than one way. I do find it interesting how many posters on other threads have bashed Obama for bowing to other heads of state, when visiting their country, but never any mention of Bush kissing and holding hands with the King of Saudi Arabia. Maybe they consider it incestuous and acceptable on that premise, rahter than bowing down to a complete stanger to show respect for their customs. Too strange.

Brent-3019177

...down to a complete stanger to show respect for their customs...

President Obama grew up in Muslim culture. Muslim culture, and for that matter Jewish culture, have great reverence for age. The hoary headed elder is considered the repository of wisdom, knowledge, and experience - attributes much loved, respected, and revered by Muslims, and traditional kosher Jews, specially by the young in these cultures.

When Obama bowed to the British Queen and the Saudi King, Americans brought up in a culture that idolises youth and warehouses the elderly, misinterpreted his gesture - Obama was bowing to wisdom, erudition, and knowledge...and not to a King or Queen - both very much older than him.

And don't give me that crap about "national security", when it is 10 years after the fact.

Ten years is not long enough after an event like 9/11. They aren't going to release reports surrounding the assassination of JFK until after just about everyone who was alive at that time and old enough to remember it is dead.

Why Gator....so it can't be disputed? It seems our government is as corrupt as we view Mexico's.

I heard JFK's assasination was done by CIA and Texas Oil. Not totally out of the realm of reality.

rico-3714896

Why Gator....so it can't be disputed?

Yes, to be archived in history...Yes, so that it can not be disputed; the culprits are protected; vested interests thrive on their spoils.

No accounting, no audits, till all major players are dead - Just as promised in the Hereafter!

None of this is really about not trusting the American government, it is about not knowing who actually IS the American government.

After Sept. 11, 2001 Cheney said that he was going to put together a "back-up government," just in case it might be needed; then he disappeared. One of the things that the American people do not know or understand it that: once something is started by anyone, at any level in the government, with any authority to start ANYTHING, it continues until those that are doing it are told specifically to stop doing it.

What that means for us as Americans is that: something is started, say you get put on a list, (very WWII don't you think) you will be on that list until someone gives an order for you to be taken off of the list.

Now that you are on the list two things come into play; first, there is no reason, no incentive, for anyone to look into whether you belong on the list or not, and second, if, or when, the person who instigated you being put on the list leaves office or gets prompted, unless they give specific instructions about you being removed from the list, you will not be removed, EVER. That means that if you are under surveillance, for any reason, it will NEVER END.

Kinda gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling; doesn't it.

All of the stuff that I was told as a child was horrible and going on in Russia is going on here in America TODAY!

What passes for the American government has NO respect for the American people. We have been studied and they know exactly what to do if there is a revolution; think Syria with more blood. And, they know that we are too apathetic and lazy to do anything that takes effort and that might get us hurt.

After Sept. 11, 2001 Cheney said that he was going to put together a "back-up government," just in case it might be needed; then he disappeared.

AJV - exactly how did Cheney disappear after September 11, 2001? He was Vice President until January, 2009, when Obama's administration took office.

Do you people realize how utterly insane you sound? I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone while reading this hogwash.

And you're a GOPTP also aren't you Gator? While you're busy trying to discredit us you may want to take a break and look into your TP money backing by the Kochs. Look into the ties first of all with Russia and now the ties to China.

And this is the party you are backing?? Who's blind and illogical now???

U M Gator: Feel like you're in the twilight zone huh? From your posts I think you probably are.

I seen on conspirious (sic) theories...

birdsview101 - Really? How about "I saw on Conspiracy Theories"...if that is even what you are attempting to say.

The offical (sic) report says no black boxes were found,if that is ture (sic) it would be the first time in history no bb were never found.

Apparently you did not watch any of the specials that were on TV commemorating the tenth anniversary of 9/11. If you had been watching, you would have seen the recovery of the black box for Flight 93. A while after that box was recovered, the families of the people who died on that flight were given the option of listening to the tape. How do you explain that? (BTW, "no bb were never found" is a double negative, which is grammatically incorrect. That should be "no bb was ever found". That does not include the misspelling of official and true. Again, your argument would be much more effective if your gave the impression that you have a shred of education.)

What are you, the editor of comments? Your comments add nothing to this thread other than a condescending attitude to others' observations. Oh, by the way, your argument would be much more effective if you gave the impression that you have a shred of education. Please note that the correct word in your final sentence is "you", not "your"; as in "if your gave the impression that you have a shred of education".

Thank you UMGator for being a voice of reason in this sea of professional paranoia. It is too bad that, in all likelihood, you efforts are waisted. These people do not want to be bothered by facts. They like their conspiracy theories, it makes thier world a much more orderly and predictable place. They can not face the fact that the world is unpredictable and random. They claim that those who argue against them are on the pay of the "powers that be" and just looking out for the intrest of the order that rules this planet. In fact they are simply trying to superimpose thier own version of order on it, twisted as it is.

You tell me Gator why the Bush regime wouldn't let the families sue over their losses when they had evidence to tell part of the story. My understanding is that Obama met with them...talked to them and promised to get back to them. Last I heard he hadn't.

UMGATOR- I meant the planes that hit the twin towers,I should have stated that more clearly, one more thing? Is your real name Dick Chaney?

UMGATOR- I meant the planes that hit the twin towers,I should have stated that more clearly, one more thing? Is your real name Dick Chaney?

He probably isn't a Cheney. But he surely is a Dick.

Exactly, to me that look on Bush's face as he sat in the school room on 9/11/2001 says "that SOB actually went through with it" referring to the Bin Laden memo.

@mike: Old news? Or new truth? Why do you still protect The Bush?

I'm with Barry on this Mike. Until the Tea Party started flexing it's crazy agenda I had no in depth interest in all of this so I never researched it. A wholeeeee lot of this is news to me.