* moons Iran *

Heck...they figured Obama was giving away $$ to everybody else...so?

phuque Iran

This whole charge is laughable - another US plot to turn people against Iran - didn't we go through this before - with Iraq? Only stupid people will fall for it again. Iran and the Mexican Cartels - so stupid - and I suppose the fairy godmother was really married to Don Corleone! Even our special ops people are laughing at this one.

lyn, not going to happen. We need Iran to stabalize Iraq and Afghanistan

Here's my apology, up yours.

Hey Ackmoockhandjob...up fooking arse sideways!

As soon as we get our apology for holding 43 hostages back in the late 70's that lasted almost four years! Nothing there.....

If there is a nation in the world that deserves seeing the reaction between sand and extreme heat it is Iran, then let's wipe it with windex, everyone put skates on and have a joyous time

Iran requesting an apology is a complete joke. How about we just write sorry on the tip of a few JDAMS and send them to Ahmadinejad airmail into his presidential palace. They get caught plotting to knock off a foreign diplomat on US soil and then try and claim there was no plot and demand an apology. Talk about deflecting. Unfortunately, I think it is only a matter of time until we are forced into dealing with Iran in the only way they understand, by bombing them back to the stone age. They are attempting to develop nuclear weapons and refuse to halt their uranium enrichment program. There is no way that the rest of the world can allow Iran to become a nuclear armed nation. There leadership is far too unstable and fanatical. A nuclear armed Iran would destabilize the entire middle east. There leaders would not be above launching a first strike nuke at Israel, feeling that their perverted view of Islam would justify such an act. Instead of helping the rebels in Libya overthrow Gadhafi, NATO should have helped the opposition overthrow Ahmadinejad and the clerics in Iran.

If Iran steams an armed navy up to the U.S. eastern seaboard, who will be President and what should the President do?

Lets air drop some pennies over Tehran, at least then we can say we're bringing change to Iran.

Sure thing Iran. We'll just deduct it from the billions you owe us for the Embassy takeoverand the billions you owe Israel for funding Hamas and Hezbollah. But you still have to apologise to both of us!

Didn't he apologize to achmedinnajagoff when he first got into office?

Where is Iran's apology for the 3 young hostages held by them in prison. Where is the apology from Iran for the 92 kidnapped victims in Lebanon between 1982 - 1992. Kidnapped by Hezbollah with backing from Syria and Iran. Where is the apology for torture and killing of William Buckley "

• William Francis Buckley. Former CIA Bureau Chief, Beirut, taken hostage by Islamic Jihad, Mar 16, 1984.^[22] and held at the village of Ras al-Ein.^[23] On October 3, 1985, the Islamic Jihad Organization claimed to have killed him. The Islamic Jihad Organization later released to a Beirut newspaper a photograph purporting to depict his corpse. Press reports stated that Buckley had been transferred to Iran, where he was tortured and killed. Former American hostages revealed that Buckley actually died of a heart attack brought on by torture, probably on June 3, 1985.^[24] His remains were found in a plastic sack on the side of the road to the Beirut airport in 1991.^[

Iran deserves nothing but the severest international sanctions possible. They are a rogue nation like their brothers in North Korea and Syria. They are parasites and need to be treated like any parasite.

JPSOTW.....

Dollar late and a penny short. See post #1.19 just above yours.

More saber rattling from Iran.

I really don't expect much to happen until such time Iran nears their Nuke capability, then the fireworks will start. And I don't think it will come from the U.S. since this Administration is always on the "be my friend" modus operandi.

LivetoRide

Hostages were in 1980... not for four years... held for 400 days. But you're right re apology part...

Here is your apology Iran: Ackmadenanutjob and the Ayatolla, may the fleas of a thousand camels and two thousand pigs infest your armpits.

You'd never see Iran ask Bush for an apology and cash!

Obama may deliver the apology but don't think he's in a position to send cash....

After 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq, the Middle East dictators/leaders may very well have hated Bush, but they damn well respected and feared him. They knew if they "misbehaved" he'd kick their ass.

Obama began his term with apologies and promises to make nice, wanting desperately for the ME dictators/leaders to like him. But they neither like him, nor respect him. And even scarier is that they sure as he[[ don't fear him.

So, tell me, Americans, what makes you feel safer: Having a President that is disliked, but is respected and feared by our enemies? Or a President that is perceived as weak and evokes no fear or respect from our enemies?

It's funny but they've release enough evidence that the plot existed, yet none of you conspiracy folk can provide evidence it's a lie. Just more anti-Obama lip flapping. If I'm wrong, by all means show us. The desperation of some of you guys to attach anti-Obama rhetoric to every article is becoming pathetic. Not to mention you'd rather believe the leaders of such a sadistic and backward country like Iran over your own country.

If Iran's leaders want an apology and money from Obama they should do it like everyone else.... enter the U.S. illegally.

Sorry about the airliner.

Hey Atlas...we are the 99%!

Eric Holder and the DOJ are batting 0 for 2 regarding this and the Fast and Furious debacle. Absolute, unadulterated incompetence. ERIC HOLDER = THE PETER PRINCIPLE PERSONIFIED

So, tell me, Americans, what makes you feel safer: Having a President that is disliked, but is respected and feared by our enemies? Or a President that is perceived as weak and evokes no fear or respect from our enemies?

Seriously? Did you miss the whole Osama Bin Laden thing? And Qadhafy? And al-Awlaki? All in the past six months? And all for the price of one week in Iraq?

To answer your question, I feel safer with a president who doesn't put our country at risk by telling the world that we'll use our power to take whatever we want by force, and then tripling the defense budget and running our country's budget into the ditch, which is exactly what Bush did.

I prefer a president with brains, not just testosterone and an empty cowboy hat.

Send Iran and all the politicians some "BUNKER BUSTERS FOR CHRISTMAS!" I'll chip in for the fuel!

Great idea Jack! Perhaps Iran would accept material goods such as bunker busters, in lieu of cash! As an initial settlement offer, we could drop-off a few million dollars worth of these fun items over their secret nuclear facility near Qom. Then, if that was not satisfactory, we could consider making further payments on their demands.

Smart folks those Iranians, they know if they bitch loud enough our leader (President Obama) Will send them some cash ( our tax money) while bowing down on one knee!!

An Iranian dipolmat? Isn't that an oxymoron?

LIVE TO RIDE- it was 1 year not 4. I was in the rescue op group. trust me on that one. no argument, no false fallacy, just fact. They suck for what they did. It was illegal, but then again so was the fact that we propped up a tortures bastard and it bit us badly. there was plenty of guilt too spread around, even belonging to damn near every administration since Iran was granted sovereignty after WWII. We Americans are quick too write ballads and cry foul, when in a lot of cases a script was written and it played out as ordered. The world is often wrapped in a heavy fog of intrigue, A lot of people, both good and bad die in the process, Its a game of crowns and one day were gonna loose too. There are about 5000 American moms that have lost plenty, wouldn't you say?....peace

Standard fare for Iran. Commit an illegal act, then deny it and blame the Americans.

Iran has no credible standing after holding American diplomats hostage for 444 days in 1979 - 1980, in clear violation of all accepted international laws and accepted protocol for thousands of years.

Reading this thread (9 pages thus far) makes me think that a lot of you would be supportive of yet another war. Hey, we'll be available after Christmas. Troops leave Iraq, enjoy Christmas at home and then fly back to Iraq, pack up their vehicles and drive right on to Iran. Great!

Obama needs to send Iran back a letter telling them to kiss our ass.

Gneisenau,

My sentiments exactly, they can KMA .....

Shouldn't we at least give them one more chance if they have done something naughty. Another chance at patching things up.

Give them an apology. Give them some money (as per American tradition) and let's start again.

I love you is better than I'm sorry.

In Iran, the criminally insane not only run the insane asylum, they run the country, they kill the innocent in Iran and they export murder and terror. If free nations allow this to continue, the entire world will become hell on earth. Now the criminally insane leaders of Iran are doing everything to produce nuclear weapons and have the audacity to approach our shores with military ships. They are pushing us to the brink of war and have no realization of the immense release of power that they will trigger by their irresponsible actions.

So, now we have a letter, unconfirmed, undocumented, not sure what's in it and the source of the 'leak' an anonymous diplomat, but, hey, lets run this as a real story, innuendoes and all. This is how wars are started, sad, isn't it?

This is simply us preparing the countries reason for the build up after we pull out of Iraq. It is chess my friend. When one wants to move a piece the piece is moved. Not without thought but with deliberate action. It seems with all of the U.S. love from Egypt to Libya to other countries rising up that we need only make a pariah out of one country. That coi8ntry being Iran. Unless there people do it for us. ;]

Cheers

mygirl1:

All wars are sad and there's no glory in it. But its like a flash flood and we can either decide to sink or swim. I prefer to swim up to the nearest boat and overcome the flood. Its also a choice of kill or be killed. Our enemies want to die, but we want to live. We have ben faced with this choice before and we made the right choice then and we will make the right choice now. We cannot go through life without conflict. We have the choice to win or lose. Losing sucks. Just ask Sadam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden.

Good for Iran.

The "Iranian plot" is a bunch of BS and is as absurd as the plots of most american movies.

And that's probably one of the reasons why a lot of americans believe it.

mowdy5gs: You may not be wrong. We have a military. In order to justify keeping them at a certain level, we need to do something with them, so we keep them in hotspots, and stupid demands like this (yes, I think Iran really sent a letter, because they use this sort of propaganda to keep their people hating us) just makes it easier to keep the force there.

There is method to this madness that even progressives should understand if they knew history. After WWII, we pretty much disbanded everything. Our remaining military was underfunded, undermanned, under-equipped, and under-trained. When North Korea invaded the South, Princess MacArthur sent these poor sods into battle, and we got our @sses handed to us. It was embarrassing, and the republicans had a field day. We had to ramp back up, and it cost us as many dead from '50 to '52 as we lost during Vietnam.

There really is a bad world out there, my progressive friends, and the military needs to stay up to date and funded so we can respond to anything serious.

Learn from history so we don't have to go through the embarrassment of repeating it, like we have in Iraq and Afghanistan. I think the President has done a great job of maximizing outcomes with minimal exposure, but there are just times we will need the boots to put on the ground. Let's just hope that next time it's for something more important then making administration officials rich by supplying the military with over-priced weapons and services.

Irene said: This whole charge is laughable - another US plot to turn people against Iran - didn't we go through this before - with Iraq? Only stupid people will fall for it again. Iran and the Mexican Cartels - so stupid - and I suppose the fairy godmother was really married to Don Corleone! Even our special ops people are laughing at this one.

Does it sound anymore ridiculous than the U.S. plotting to kill Castro with an exploding Cigar? It was planned..didnt happen but it was planned.

Not to mention that Iran actually successfully carried out an assassination on U.S. soil before during the Hostage crisis...you should look it up sometime.

Let me ask you this, if it didn't mention the mexican cartels, would you believe it then?

My corollary to that is: "your mother also wants an apology Iran"

Hay Iran want an apology....Look up!

This is like apologizing to the cartel for selling dope to little children..

It's a given that I am a PROLIBDEM, But I have to agree with the posters on here when Iran wants to demand an apology AND cash from the U.S AFTER they got their hand stuck in the cookie jar for their failed assassination attempt on a Suadi Dignitary.

I would suggest the the Iranian Government listen this musical response.

CEE-LO GREEN: YOU'RE UP!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc0mxOXbWIU&ob=av3e&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3D%2B@!$%#%2Byou%26aq%3Df

Then again; Iran, DMX explains it BETTER!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfDDuhhhVg4

After hearing a bit about the alleged assassin, this wasn't the work of the Iranian government. The guy was a world class clown. He wasn't ever going to be hired by anyone to assassinate anyone in a manner in which it was going to work.

I'll give them the apology, this DOES sound like a set up. It'd be such a stupid and pointless move, to begin with. Killing the Saudi ambassador? Like the Saudi ambassador has to do anything other than show up in the US and say, "Hey, remember the oil?", and we'll do whatever they want. They could have a 10 year old kid be the Saudi ambassador to the US, killing him would accomplish nothing. The whole incident reeks of a setup. Now, is it the US government that did the setup? That doesn't seem likely, it's probably some other party trying to trigger aggression against Iran, but the whole incident is far too amateur to be serious. I don't think it was Iran, and I don't think it was the US.

As for money, though, Iran's supposed to be under the kind of sanctions that could starve a cactus, they can kiss my $%^ if they think they're getting money.

jkm49

Where is Iran's apology.....

Its apology is right behind ours to them for getting rid of their duly elected leader by the CIA and putting in the puppet Shah who murdered over 100,000 Iranians and did our bidding for oil.

This led to the take over of our US Embassy and a radial government of theirs that continues to this day to make America and its presence in countries where it doesn’t belong, payback without end.

But then we sow what we reap.

If Iran steams an armed navy up to the U.S. eastern seaboard, who will be President and what should the President do?

The US Navy would put the entire Iranian fleet under the waves in a matter of minutes.

Oh, interesting tidbit that I thought put things into perspective. Tehran proper is almost exactly the same size in land mass, population, and population density as New York City proper.

One thing’s for sure Iran has no shame…….

This is so funny! Aukman@!$%#alot is so funny. Lets send him a herd of pigs as a thnk you. OH look i just stepped in a pile of pig shyt. I will be happy to throw my shoe at you Akman@!$%#alot, and pay you on tuesday. OK?

This is a tempest in a teapot. The story makes no sense - I think we're getting played again. I doubt very much this guy was acting on orders from Iran.

That's all they want? An apology? Easy enough:

Dear Iran -

We're really really sorry that you attempted to assassinate the Saudi ambassador. We hope that it didn't cause you too much inconvenience. However, it is our policy to stop assassinations whenever possible. It's kind of a policy thing really.

Again, we're really sorry you had to be stopped.

Most humbly yours,

- America

To Iran!! Please, PLEASE hold your breathe, till you receive the cash you feel you deserve! LOL!!

First the illegitimate (and unelected) Iranian 'government' needs to apologize to its own people for the farce of imposing a 'supreme' dictator of the likes of Khamenei and calling it the rule of 'religion' or, worse yet, the rule of God.

What a disgrace. Khamenei is not God. Khamenei barely even qualifies as human.

Chris D @ post #1.60 Excellent point --- a glimpse of sanity on this board.

Most Americans forget how our policies have systematically and needlessly antagonized the Iranians over the years. In 1953 The CIA helped overthrow a democratically elected president and install the authoritarian Shah as our U.S. puppet, to prevent nationalization of Iranian oil. Our support for that dictatorship and its repressive policies fueled the reaction that led to the Iranian revolution, which led to the hostage crisis in the '70s. Our alliance with Saddam Hussein in his invasion of Iran in the early 1980's did not happen to help matters.

Iran, like Iraq, is a major source of global oil. Iran, like Iraq, has zero capability to attack us. But that didn't stop us from turning Saddam Hussein into a modern day Hitler ready to take over the world. Iran, especially since she's made plans for pricing oil in Euros, has been on the receiving end of a propaganda war not unlike that waged against Iraq before our invasion. Economic interests almost always are major reasons for wars being fought. Noble and patriotic causes are easier to sell to a public who must pay and provide cannon fodder to defend the financial interests of a privileged class. Politicians love euphemisms. But, changing words around does not change the reality.

Meddling in the affairs of others has consequences. There is always some militant-violent-jihadist looking to rally that faction, but they have to have incentives. The incentive is when we impose our will on them and we get involved in their internal politics. That contradicts everything our Founders theorized, and there's no constitutional authority for us to march around the world undermining different governments.

The wisdom of Washington and Jefferson have been replaced with corporate and banking interests.

Sincerus, I agree with you that we should stay out of internal affairs, but it wasn't greed that caused us to overthrow the Iranian president. We shouldn't have done it for sure, but we were in the middle of the Cold War and were threatened by Iran's economic plans. Now, if we have no reason for war with Iran then there should be no war. However, if we do indeed have true evidence that, for some odd reason, Iran did plan this assassination or they are trying to create nuclear weapons then we should take appropriate action. Maybe Iran did it as a test of America's toughness? Using a car salesman would ensure the American public would see this as a fabricated assassination and cover them when he failed. However, what I see weird is the fact that the other member was in the Quds force. Maybe he tried to assassinate on American soil by himself so he could get in with the more powerful members. Neither side makes much sense, really. I don't see why Iran would do this besides just dumb confidence, but I also don't see why America would use this as "evidence" to attack Iran rather than weapons of mass destruction.

Tawney-4240638- It is never all right for an American democratic administration to remove another countries democratically elected government. Who do you think we and you are? The ends never justify the means and your another prime example of whats happened and wrong with our Constitutional Republic. How dare you take away someone else's rights on your whim, your no better than those you accuse of unlawful activity. You need to get off the boards, you'll incite a riot if you keep talking like a dictator......

Sincerus

Most Americans only eat grain from the government propaganda troth.

Write and wrong gets lost, and without a Villain we don’t have a news cycle, foreign policy, or the "needed" wars we use to make soo much money for those that don’t deserve it in the first place?

Viet Nam and the so called “Pueblo”case comes to mind along with all of our other red herrings.

Jeffery- I'm pretty sure I never agreed with us removing the elected. I actually said we were wrong in doing so. THey were doing what they felt was best for the country. Who are you to disagree with them, seeing that you were not from that administration and probably don't know the full story. I don't agree with taking away anyone's rights, but if we have to do something to protect ourselves from attack, or to prevent dictatorships to start, then we should do it. Please do not accuse me of being a dictator sympathizer because nothing in my post said as such.

CHris- Vietnam wasn't for any type of greed, just to protect more countries from giving into communism. Obviously, we failed. I'd say if it was for greed we would have picked an easier fight.

Tawney-4240638

CHris- Vietnam wasn't for any type of greed, just to protect more countries from giving into communism. Obviously, we failed. I'd say if it was for greed we would have picked an easier fight.

You should buy a bait shop, you have already swallowed enough hooks, lines, and sinkers.

Nothing is farther from the truth than your explanation.

That was just ONE of many red herrings they used back then.

The lie was “If you don’t fight them there, you will have to fight them in our streets”.

Pure crapola.

And SE Asia had oil and we knew all about it.

Its in the courts as we speak as to who owns it besides Viet Nam

The story they went with was the Pueblo Incidence because what sounded better, and who would know or ask the milatary? They could hide that one for years as long as the war was on.

They never counted on The captain of the ship, as he told the truth but way too late.

Communism was always just one of our favorite red herrings.

I always thought this was an interesting story:

Business Day

COLLECTIONS>BAGHDAD

Lockboxes, Iraqi Loot And a Trail To the Fed

By TIMOTHY L. O'BRIEN

Published: June 06, 2004

WHEN a United States Army sergeant broke through a false wall in a small building in Baghdad on a Friday afternoon a little over a year ago, he discovered more than three dozen sealed boxes containing about $160 million in neatly bundled $100 bills.

Later that day, soldiers found more cash in other hideaways near the Tigris River, in an exclusive neighborhood that elite members of Saddam Hussein's government once called home. By the end of the evening, they had amassed 164 metal boxes, all riveted shut, that held about $650 million in shrink-wrapped greenbacks. The cash was so heavy, and so valuable, that the Army needed a C-130 Hercules cargo plane to airlift it to a secure location.

Just two days later, on Sunday, April 20, 2003, Thomas C. Baxter, head of the legal unit of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, read a brief news account of the discovery. Most of the money that turned up in Baghdad was new, bore sequential serial numbers and was stored with documents indicating that it had once been held in Iraq's central bank. One fact particularly bothered Mr. Baxter: the money had markings from three Fed banks, including his own in New York.

Iraq, of course, had been subject to more than a decade of trade sanctions by the United States and the United Nations, so large piles of dollars, especially new bills, were not supposed to have found their way to Baghdad.

'How could that happen?'' Mr. Baxter thought to himself, as he recalled later in Senate testimony. ''Not only with U.S. sanctions, but with U.N. sanctions. How could that happen?''

Mr. Baxter and the New York Fed, along with the Treasury Department and the Customs Service, immediately began an investigation into Baghdad's currency stockpile. The continuing inquiry offers a rudimentary road map of illicit dealings -- including lucrative oil smuggling -- in Iraq and neighboring countries during the Hussein years, the federal authorities say.

The investigation led quickly to the vaults of four Western banks that were among a select group handling the sensitive task of distributing freshly printed dollars overseas: the Bank of America, the HSBC Group, the Royal Bank of Scotland and UBS. Several other commercial banks and foreign central banks, which the Fed did not name, also served as stopovers along Baghdad's money trail, according to a written account Mr. Baxter provided to the Senate Banking Committee about two weeks ago

Maybe we already paid back Iraq and now Iran wants some.

Floyd, to say the least. Obama and Biden both know now that the origional accusations against Iran were false

Normally Obama would probably issue an apology.... hasn't he apologized for America many times before? But he dare not do so now, expecially with this being an election year!

Personally, I'd tell Iran to F.O. in a not so diplomatic way.......

Ana is banana's again.... blaming Bush when Obama has kowtowed to those Middle Eastern countries harboring terrorists since 2008! And Iran is at the head of the table in that one.

When Obama isn't criticizing Israel and asking them to capitulate he is apologizing to the Muslim's for America's exceptionalism! If it wasn't for Leon Panetta's great work in getting rid of bin Laden and keeping Obama from getting rid of Gitmo. No, you can't blame Bush for this one, it is Obama's fault that Iran would even dare ask us for an apology!!!

It's all Bush's fault.

=:D

All politicians are crooked nowadays. Haven't you heard?

No clue what you all are talking major "Big Man" talk over. In 4 months Iran will be invading Iraq and not a damn thing US can do about it. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Iran is now the most powerful country in the Middle East. Let's all give a big cheer for Bush for doing so, he took out Irans natural enemy when he took out the Iraqi government that kept Iran in check.

Now, when everbody says Saddam was a bad man, remember who armed him, yup, the US. We did so to keep Iran in check.

Somehow, not sure how, but this is Obama's fault? Wow, that's funny! What a short memory many of you have. Does anyone remember Bush kissing the Saudi Prince (King?) and then walking around holding hands with him? I do, but that was OK, but when Obama bows in respect, that's wrong?

I'm confused by many republicans. they are against gays, but men kissing and holding hands is OK as long as they start wars and kill people? Then someone apologizing for his predecessors mistakes is wrong? (If you still can't admit Iraq was a mistake, you'll never understand, and there is no hope for you)

Mark- I don't care if you want to say that Bush started the war with IRaq for stupid reasons. I don't believe humans are smart enough to do something like that with such a long term effect being in view. Saddam was a "bad man", we armed him for a better reason, once he used these arms unrightfully we did something about it. People make mistakes, that includes our leaders.

Kissing is a sign of respect, bowing shows you are below the one you bow to in some way. Not that I agree this is a reason to say Obama is a bad president, I just don't like him because he promised so many things, and all he has really done is give the go for terrorist take outs. As for your last statement, please stop using a label to generalize to a group of people. It puts me in the mind of racism/sexism with this democrat/republican argument. If we went to Iraq for oil then it was a mistake. If we went to stop Hussein and terrorists, including their possible WMDs then I believe it wasn't a mistake. I believe we should apologize IF we make a mistake. The public does not know if we have made one or not yet, as I'm sure there's more evidence then we are told. We just have to wait.

Seldom Seen Sam Colorado- when has Obama EVER! EVER! apologize for America's actions. Please be brief and to the point. I hate it when punks like you make statements of False fallacy with nothing to back it up with other than hot air. Even dub ya never apologized and he should have sent them out daily, he should have apologized for waking up each morning.

Mark-941197- actually Mark your wrong. While I'll give you Saddam was Iran's natural enemy, he preferred Soviet weapons over those made in the US of A (except for howitzers, that man loved him some gun emplacements). We did however support the Afghani's with stingers and 50 cal's, plus tons of CIA help with covert terroristic activity, how did that work out for us, by the way? huh?

Iran senses weakness from the USA, probably because Obama has been so quick to apologize for it's over aggressiveness against the very folks Iran has been training and protecting.

I don't see BO apologizing now though... he's got an election to win. Someone with backbone in the administration will put him on the right course this time!

We froze and stole many billions of irans cash when the ejected our stooge shaw. Also, our embassy was loaded with evidence that they were an arm of our stooge.

When we armed saddam to fight Iran they lost hundreds of millions of their people. Isn't it time we got our of the middle east and showed some concern for our own people. How much of this is about Israel wanting us to go to war against Iran? They certainly wanted us in Iraq. We are crazy to allow our government to keep ignoring our problems for any and ever reason. Who did we elect these clowns yo serve?

Frank Morton,it is nice to read something intelligent,someone that thinks and not just fall for propaganda.I bet most of these people that hates Iran could not even find it on the map if it was written in bold letters.

starbuck, how can they buy a cup of coffee with a quarter? And by the way, where is my "she-devil" latte?

And we never paid them back for the Iranians we killed in the airliner!

You're wrong, Irene. The families of those killed in the shooting down of the Iranian passenger airplane were apologized to and well compensated financially, insofar as money can replace a human life. The administration at the time started apologizing to the Iranian government before the missile struck the aircraft.

Irene,

We did pay them for the airliner.

In 1996, the United States and Iran reached "an agreement in full and final settlement of all disputes, differences, claims, counterclaims" relating to the incident at the International Court of Justice.^[5] As part of the settlement, the United States agreed to pay US$61.8 million, an average of $213,103.45 per passenger, in compensation to the families of the Iranian victims. However, the United States has never admitted responsibility, nor apologized to Iran.^[6]

Good One!

Irene why is it wrong to make fun of Iranians but not the jews?????

cmk, you are right. the world is free to make fun of anyone (as long as no one makes fun at the jews)

Kevin,

Apologize for what? Calling them out?

Perhaps you should add an apology for operation AJAX. You know, the one where MI6 and the CIA instigated a military coop d'etat of a DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRIME MINISTER and installed a puppet dictator so US and British oil companies could keep making lots of money? The very same dictator that the Iranians hated so much, that Islamic extremists used the public anger to rise to power?

I didn't see that one on your snarkly little list.

I don't agree with everything our gov't does/has done. Anyone that does is a fool. That doesn't mean we need to listen to those blowhards thinking they can demand anything.

Mr. Magniloquent,

Operation Ajax happened in 1950 under Harry Truman. Do we need to apologize to the British for kicking them out too? Yes, it was a very stupid operation.

No - you do not speak for "all of us" You forget why we are on the outs with Iran in the first place - Iran got tired of giving all its oil profits to the oil companies of the US and UK and threatened to nationalize its oil - British got on the phone and alerted the US who quickly installed a puppet Shah - a stinker of a guy who robbed the Iranians until the religious people stepped in and took over and ousted the Shah - Iran has never trusted the US since then. In fact, many of us Americans also have trouble trusting anything our government tells us - because of the numerous lies and coverups.

irene (and anyone who reads this post), irene is 100% Factual in her statement. irene's statement is trully, trully the God's Honest Truth.

Irene: Don't you mean religious nuts!

irene: A little truth in the middle of so much hatred and bs is certainly refreshing. Thank you!

When we armed Saddam to fight Iran, God only knowes how many died. Then when he made the mistake of attacking the Emir of Kuwait who has hundreds of billions in our market and connections with our big oil companies he was doomed.

Also, how are their extreme or fundamental religious nuts much different than ours? I have not heard a "Christian" tv evangelist that dose not support every war they see.

Irene, and the rest of you "get a grip" please. You can make excuses all day for why Iran doesn't like us. But make no mistake who the bad guys are. Iran was at the forefront of the middle east in terms of advancing their culture from the Dark Ages. Fast foward 30 years and they've now regressed back to their barbaric ways.

Iran (and most middle east countries) has the opportunity to do great things for their people (employment, education, purpose) b/c they sit on huge reserves of oil. But they instead choose a radical religious driven agenda that puts all our lives in jeopardy.

How can you justify Iran's behavior based on the politics of oil? Their hatred runs MUCH DEEPER then that.

Raider,

You have got to be either a young unlearned person, or one of those self-promoting evangelical types yourself, because you've got it wrong and if you care to pay attention to undisputable documented facts, Irene is 100% accurate in her statement. Look, I'm a native born, Christian, former soldier who will defend this nation to my last breath, but our federal government lies to us continually and have been manipulation events in the middle-east for the wealthiest of this nation's benefit since before the second world war and for Israel's benefit thereafter. Assuming you're a practicing Christian, some of the acts and support of acts this nation's government has committed in the middle-east would blow your socks off. I wish you and other zealots could get your hands on some of the documented information, held in our federal government's top-secret vaults, about the things they've done in the middle-east. If I'm right and you are a follower of Christ, much of that stuff would make you sick to your stomach. To find out that our Christian nation's government soiled us in such a fashion, by some of the perverted acts they've committed in the past, I believe would leave you wanting to prosecuted them in a court of law!

P.S.> ABSOLUTELY NO AMNESTY AND TOTALLY SECURE SOUTHERN BORDERS!!!

They're our enemies. plain and simple. I don't give a rat's A$$ how they got to be our enemies, because it wouldn't change anything even if I DID! We WILL end up sending our armies in there and blowing the living $#!T out their little towel head party before too much longer, and I really feel sorry for the People who have to live there and be repressed by those pull start headed, bearded Camel molesters, because they'll suffer the death and destruction, while the loudmouth Assahollahs will head out of town on the first caravan (ChickenS#!T$). If you wanna take their side, fine (TRAITORS). They're still a buncha A-holes.

Keep drinking the coolaid Irene...Iran has nothing and no one to blame but itself for its current predicament. Maybe if it didn't torture its own citizens, or sponsor terrorists like Hezbollah, it would have a leg to stand on. As it is, your comments are crass and baseless, just like the Iranian government's statements.

This true - the US killed so many innocent people in Iraq - but they will not acknowledge the actual number. Many US soldiers are currently in prison for getting caught killing just for the fun of it. So sad.

When your recuiting numbers fall so bad that you start enlisting convicted felons, what did you expect to happen

Well, you convinced me! Got to be in the hundreds of thousands.

Get real.

Irene you are full of it. Not many, one platoon of which the leader is on trial. Not disputing the number of dead just who actually killed who.

Irene, I personally take offence to that statement. If by many you mean 1 or more, I agree with you. There were individuals in our military that acted wrong and now have been punished accordingly. And yes, having 1 soldier do something like that is an atrocity. The unfortunate effect of war is that it will bring evil out in some of those that have to carry out the missions. Your comment, unfortunately, makes a pretty bad generalization regarding our armed forces. Forces, that over all, during the 10 years of war have acted with out-most respect and dignity toward the civilian population. Something we cannot say for many other nations.

And Onermailliw, please look up the stats before you speak. The US Army is reducing its numbers and recruitment requirements are pretty stringent. In fact, it is very unlikely someone can get a waiver these days, especially for felonies. I urge you to verify your information before you post it in a public forum

no way, iran has to pay for such idiot mistake, is killing and destoing the infraustrcturin in the niebgerhood so cheap. it must be an end like ghadafi and assa and ali saleh, these people are not human and they have to pay for their mistake.

We have many in our military that are not even US citizens. Also, we have military all over the world defending big money interest. We even defend the Saudi royal family and the Emir of Kuwait who run their countries like company stores.

Not that it should matter; But, I speak as an old combat naval flier. In my opinion our Country is in moral and spiritual decline, greed is destroying us and we have not had a war since 1945 that was justified.

Let's just give them back those Iranian hikers and call it even.

proud american soldier - I'm sure we might disagree on many points regarding recent world events. But I admire your response to Irene and to Onermailliw. Too many paint with a broad brush here, making blanket statements accusing people and institutions of crimes without clear evidence.

Your response will not stop such postings. But it does show that one can respond strongly against such messages without being rude or objectionable.

Proud soldier, you have my vote as a brother in arms.

And I have a few choice words for posters like Irene and the like...but unlike them, I'll keep them to myself. Still, they won't get any Xmas cards from me. If they like living without freedom, they are free to move there. Even as bad as it gets here, at least we are free. We're writing on this post, aren't we?

Obama = Bush = Mitt = =Hilary. This is another distraction effort by the White House to keep our minds off

our disatrious state of affairs. This type entertainment creation drives up oil prices , and of course, Peaple

like Obama-Bush profit from increase in thier Oil stocks.

@!$%# Israel; they have no part in this debate. =Iran and US need to settle it out.

Who's acting?

Well, except for the oil of course.

of... course... how would we drive our cars

Iran or Iraq? I know - just one letter off, don't worry about it.

Yes they do what ever they want but its there bloody country not ours.

We have been pushing our ways on others for to long it is not right for us to judge others even if it may seem harsh to our way of life.

I would think that some of the things we do sometimes are no better in some cases.

We need to let other nations learn how to run there own country there way unless they ask for any help and that means the people not the leaders or those who wish to seek power.

Every nation has done something very wrong to another or its own people at one time in history or another.

look at what Americans did only 60 years ago to some people of color in there own country.

We are not any better.

They want money cuz they figure if we'll pay to release 3 retarded kids , we'll pay to them to shut the hell up

There seems to be a lot of false info. here; here are some answers to a few of them

<since Iran was granted sovereignty after WWII> wher did u learn this one. Iran have extsited for over 2600 yrs as a gov./ country, and there were civilizations in that area for about 7500 yrs.

it is a very mountanous land; over 3/4 (75%) of the country r mountains

regarding the 3 us hikers: he/she will be held in any country if anyone enters any country without proper documents

iran cannot attack anyone with an atom bomb. they don't have it and don't worry, even if one day they have it the world will drop several bombs on them for such an act. Be realistic

not 4 yrs for hostages, but 1 yr and 2 months. in any case the american embassy was a large area with over 200+ staff as a spying / gathering info center

this is the usual legal way; for any acuzations proof /documents are needed. It will be a fact when there r docu and proofs. Like saddam & nuclear weapons in Iraq which false documents were given to united nation as prrof, later it was found no nuclear weapons / weapons of mass destruction were found.

finally lets niot be emotional about things.

frank, it was called persia. and in case you haven't noticed, they have electricity and schools and even intelligent citizens. The unrest comes from a similar root cause to the very issues we are facing, corruption and greed. and as you educated us on before, they got a few centuries of a jump start on us.

Herman Cain would say your mixing Apples & Oranges.

This has all happened before, and it will all happen again. Why make it better? Why change?