Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Yes they all do it, he just ran on changing the way Washington works...........kind of like the right running on family values.

@Doc do you have your head in the sand. Just look at the posts on this site everyday against Republicans. The extremists on both sides act like grade schoolers. Unfortunately this is what America has come to and it goes with the territory.

Campaign Finance Reform Rebate - Until we get these rules changed, every Politician will offer our Government up for sale to the Highest Bidder . . .

Sorry Obama apologists but this is influence peddling and corruption...... ''At least 30 of the 2012 bundlers have ties to companies that conduct business with federal agencies or hope to do so.'' .....has it gotten to where we as citizens just write this off as business as usual? Obama learned from the best in Chi-town and hopefully he can join his corrupt comrades in Illinois that have ran the state into the ground with their corruption and nepotism that they can't even pay off their Lottery tickets. Thanks Obama for bringing chicago style politics and cronyism to Washington DC!

Just because all the other Administrations have done it does that make it right?

RickGaffron:

Exactly! And for those not concerned about "party", it's still business as usual.

liberty&freedom luvr:

He didn't start it, but it didn't "change" at all either.

This will not change until enough people have decided they're not going to take it anymore and put a majority behind an independent candidate determined to take on campaign reform.

DocHolliday-2979123

I guess that this is the Obama "hope and change" and "fundamental transformation of America" and "I will have the most transparent administration in history", that you wanted.

When people wake up and realize that whether they carry a Demorcrat or Republican party card in their wallet, ALL of them belong to the same party.. The American Party of Me First and Complete Corruption in Politics Dirtbag Party.

Have a great day and keep drinking the party rhetoric kool-aide.

It is amazing that the same people that whine and whine and whine about this behavior when it comes from Republicans are so quick to excuse the behavior from a Democrat. This is why the country and the regime is in such a piss poor predicament. Because you people have no standards or ethics. As long as you are getting your handouts whoopie damn do.

This crap needs to end! The government is infested with cockroaches.

Hope and Change? Change? Where's the "Change".

It's business as usual in DC.

(I wonder how many people who voted for Obama on the promise of "Change" are feeling like they've been conned about now?)

I will remember these comments conservatives. Willard just had a fundraiser in Manhattan and invited exclusively Hedge fund managers and private equity firms, in other words a bunch of Gordon Gecko's just like him.

If you didn't like Obama's 30 lobbyists, just wait till you elect Willard and its 300...

The difference between Democrats and Republicans isn't so much policy as it is scale...

So that makes it right? This is why NO ONE trust's the Government. Pay to play is alive and well. This so called Government for the people and BY the people has been bought and paid for. It is a privately held company and if the real owners of OUR country don't wake up and smell the coffee very soon we are screwed! So join the tea party or the protest wall street movement or make a new movement but for Gods sake do something to fight back. non violent of course.

I'm going to change the way Washington does business???? (obama 07 laughed my azz off then, not so funny now!!)

The Tea Party is going to change soros, van jones and obama, then Washington!!!!!

Only Capitalist in the White House in 2013!!!!!

Go figure it is the same old sh*& that the left wingers still blather on about Bush....The difference between Obama and any other Presidential administration is their eagerness to punish those states that do not goose step along with his poor leadership and those states that did not throw their electoral votes his way.

one and done Obama...no two tier society needed or wanted in America.

No one is sayiong this is OK. I am a dyed in the wool Democrat and I am just as angry over this as if it was a Republican. It is disgraceful from either side. That being said, I still will vote for President Obama because I agree with more of his views than that of any republican running.

hs321-

I have seen plenty of change (none good) .... it's the "hope" I'm a little short on .....

It would be a great election year for an INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE! Both current parties have failed the American people and sold out to lobbyists. Jack Abramoff wrote a book about the corruption (since he got out of jail), and he says it's worse now than it was when he was lobbying, and he "owned" more than a hundred congressional offices. People, the corruption is not only in the Executive Branch, it is all through the Legislative Branch as well. I believe it was referred to a couple thousand years ago as "The love of money is the root of all evil". If we truly want to heal this country, we need a presidential candidate who can stop the bleeding and repair the wounds. A good place to start would be a balanced budget amendment, congressional term limits, a monetary standard, cutting the size of the federal government, and advocating Constitutional liberties. I believe that Dr. Paul has advocated those philosophies for a number of decades, but people are reluctant to do the "right" thing. They are more concerned with being "politically correct".

This is just another glaring example of how much of a hypocrite Obama is. This may be the way things were done by previous administrations, but Obama is the one who ran on a platform of changing business as usual in Washington. Obama is the one who crowed that there would be no lobbyists in his administration. Of course that ban on lobbyists did not last a month before Obama was granting himself waivers to his own policy. Hope and change has turned into business as usual. In fact, Obama has shown himself to be more adept at playing these games than most. In addition, there have been some very questionable things going on within the Obama administration like the Solyndra fiasco and the fact that a large number of administration officials owe back income taxes that have been outstanding for years. Obama has proven time and again that he is no different than any other politician and in many ways worse. it is one thing to conduct business as usual, it is something else to try and claim you are different when behind the scenes you are one of the worst offenders when it comes to working the system. I would have far more respect for Obama if he would just come clean and admit that he is no different rather than trying to pretend he is something he is not.

Of course none of this should really surprise anyone, considering Obama got his political education in the most corrupt political climate in the country, the state of Illinois and the city of Chicago. Politics in Chicago in particular and Illinois in general have been the definition of corruption for decades. The last two governors of Illinois have wound up in prison for corruption and two other fairly recent governors have also gone to prison, one for corruption and the other for being involved in the savings and loan sandal. And just for the record, three of the four were Democrats.

Both parties should be ashamed, but they are not except for a few and they lean towards Ron Paul because of this nonsense. So everybody on here that isn't disgusted that Obama is participating in the very same system that pays people for their vote with influence is a part of the problem. You lose all legitimacy when you make excuses for Obama that made changing Washington his top priority.

This isn't a party cancer, but a Washington cancer and as long as voters do not DEMAND things change regardless of who is in power, it won't. The problem is each person posting on this site secretly wants that influence by those they approve of. So really you are hypocrites.

When Obama refused to take public money to finish his campaign as McCain did, he spit in your faces using the excuse he could only win with a lot of money which clearly public money wasn't going to cut it. The reform was a bi-partisan effort and it was a test of the American people and the media that sways elections to finally embrace another system that would be a much more fair election. I agree we need to take out all the special interest groups that air ads that are usually very inaccurate as the Bain story by Newt was, and then the media runs with all the inaccuracies with only a few willing to be go through the allegations to ferret out the truth.

Maybe that is the issue. Nobody wants to really hear the truth unless it fits their political view. When a nation becomes so biased and refuses to want to hear the truth, we become a much lesser human race. We point fingers at others countries for their corruption, but telling lies, or half truths, or saying one thing and doing another, is just as bad.

Just because all the other Administrations have done it does that make it right?

No, it makes it self-defense. Change the laws so no one can do it.

Wow ! Such a short story for such BIG money !! I guess MSDNC didn't want to call to much attention to the so-called President of the "little People", the poor, the middle class ...... is being BOUGHT OFF BY BIG MONEY...... AGAIN !!!!

Spin baby spin, MSNBC infernooooooo, spin baby spin !!!

Hell, if this had been Romney doing such things, the article would have been at least 4 pages long with quotes from everyone not liking his candidacy and decrying his ties to BIG MONEY. But this is Obama, so it is okay !!!! ROTFLMAO !!!! The hypocrisy of Democrats is rich ..... literally !!!!!!!

IT would be nice if this country had someone running for president that wanted this country to be the best possible again....and not the third world nation it is running to with the help of CEO's and politicans more interested in profits than country. If anyonbe considers me to be wrong then consider this...all reports now coming out suggest this nation moving to a service nation....which will surely have lower pay for workers. The question becomes...with nearly everything this nation uses now made elsewhere..how long will cheap goods remain cheap ? And at what cost to this nation ? This is NOT the major manufacturing country in the world anymore....China has pretty much taken that role...most of all tech support now comes from other countries.....so just where is this country being left ? AS I see it right now...with CEO"S looking for more profits....elsewhere.

ivan,NC....you left out the poor masses that are so bound by social welfare and those in our society that are just knee deep in criminal behavior and drugs that your statement is tainted.

You leave out the greed of the Unions and those who join that truly expect to live a middle class or upper middle class life style (or better) when they have not made the general effort to complete their free and fair public school educations or trade educations to make our manufacturing industry strong again. Those who thought they were so powerful that their was no other choice than for companies to meet their ever growing demands to be compensated more than the market could absorb. The Auto industry is certainly evidence of the abuse and misuse of the free market system by Union thugs and Attorneys as well as the gullibility of the rank and file. They asked too much and well there were options open for Businesses to flourish abroad. Where is our textile and clothing industry? How about the Auto industry? What about the foundries? Now the SEIU wishes to lead the service industry in the same disastrous direction as the manufacturing industry. But they will add the scores of illegal labor to the mix and drive this country even further down the path to insolvency.

As I see it right now...those who work in manufacturing and wish to work in manufacturing should accept some of their own responsibility for asking too much for what they offer. We need to get back to a fair wage for fair work. We need to get back to employees who take pride in what they create but don't overestimate their own value. We need to get back to some reasonable expectation. It is true that you get out of your life what you are willing to put into it.

Same Ole - Same Ole

The Oligarchy already exist, socialism is the red herring..

Aparantly it's all legal right now sooo.... maybe it actually depends on who's bundling? If a "good" president gets "good" bundlers to fund "good" policy, then isn't that a good thing? When your bundlers are big oil companies and pharmacutical companies that entrap the American people for greedy purposes, it's "bad".

I like much of what Obama has done and fought for, and therefore I will stand by his decisions. I just hope that I will be able to continue to trust his policies in the future.

So Obama continues to give away government money and government perks to get votes. No incumbent president has dared to be so obvious in "vote buying" he must not only be dishonest but scared as well.

Gil...it becomes dishonest when he is using American funds to destroy what others have built just because he can. It becomes dishonest when he makes one promise and does just the opposite with his authority. It becomes dishonest when he targets half of the country he is tasked with representing and calls them enemy or terrorists.

He is a dishonest man with a personal agenda that has nothing to do with the people who voted for or against him...rather his own personal ambition granted by some very rich and elite players.

Rationalizing bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior does not make the original bad behavior acceptable. If it was we wouldn't have any criminals in jail.

jeepers, mr smith, president obama said he was going to change all that... snif...

Wow...why does the right act so outraged ... you forgeting aboutThe Bush Pioneers & Rangers..Ken Lay ring a bell....

A Report by Texans for Public Justice

October 1, 2004

Who Are The Bush Pioneers & Rangers?

Summary & Key Findings:

Pioneers and Rangers in 2000 and/or 2004 (count = 661):

Of the 661 elite donors from Bush’s 2000 and/or 2004 campaigns, 152 (23 percent) have had themselves or their spouses appointed to Bush’s 2000 transition teams or to one or more federal posts. These big-donor appointees include two cabinet secretaries, 27 ambassadors and 48 transition team members.

104 companies that have employed 127 elite Bush donors received federal contracts worth more than $88 billion in fiscal year 2002. Dominating this group is Bush Ranger George David, head of defense giant United Technologies Corp., which had $84 billion in federal contracts.

President Bush invited family members of 27 elite donors to sleepovers at the White House or Camp David.

At least 156 elite Bush donors have been involved in corporate scandals or helped run companies involved in them.

At least 83 elite donors either have been involved in campaign-finance scandals or helped run companies involved in them.

Forty-one elite Bush donors recently ran or worked for polluting companies.

Thirty-eight private companies have employed more than one elite Bush donor, with two Wall Street investment banks employing four elite Bush donors apiece.

Fifteen families produced more than one elite Bush donor, led by the First Family. Three other families bred three elite donors each.

Thirteen members of Congress are elite Bush donors.

http://info.tpj.org/pioneers/pioneers04/summary.html

Obama is from Chicago. That's the way business is done here, just ask Rod, or Rham..

Amunaka: You figures are meaningless. My math shows that you show 641 (plus, plus) people out of 661 as having received favors. You are obviously doubling or tripling up. Stop the propaganda. And, your argument that it is now OK to chop down a cherry tree is sophomoric.

In other words, politics as usual and yet another broken promise from this failed president! Didn't he promise "Hope and Change?" Didn't he promise to fundamentally transform America? Well, this promise he kept...he changed America - for the worse! Didn't he promise to keep "lobbyists" out of American politics? Well, I guess if you just stop calling them lobbyists and start calling them bundlers, then, yes, he succeeded! This guy is disgusting and those of you who still support him are idiots!

To..gill ""

If you clicked on the link the information on the right breaks it all down ..I didn't double or triple anything ..

And as for " your argument that it is now OK to chop down a cherry tree is sophomoric."'

Where did I say that...?

A lot of outrage over something that won't be changed until WE want it too. And if we don't like it (and I don't), then for godssake why would I vote for a candidate that is even worse? Republicans relationship with lobbyists and fundraisers is even worse. Until Americans insist on change, it won't.

This is wrong

Docholliday,

You stated, "Hypocrisy.....thy name is Democrat". I would change this just a little. Should read, "Hypocrisy.....thy name is politician."

Now Doc, I'm not being critical of your post. I just believe at the end of the day they are about all the same when it comes to playing the game, Republican and Democratic.

Without a side by side comparison this story is nothing more than a mint left on the pillow for the Faux viewers and the GOP paid posters. If you want the bilgewater out of politics PAY for the elections as a taxpayer with some input instead of being the one buying a candybar at the Quikymart that has ten cents added to the cost for thier lobbyist.

Oh yes, hope & change. The change is to even worse chicanery, Chicago-style, with Obama's chums hoping for socialism/communism as the yield.

Lefties, what part of "it isn't about the people, it's about the power and the control" isn't obvious enough? How many times does someone have to slip up and make that confession? You are being conned, duped, used -- and whatever other word that can be substituted. Believe what you will, but many of the rest of us are sick and tired of rhetoric that horrendously splits the classes, tired of shelling out more and more of our wages in taxes that are wasted on corruption in the guise of helping the poor, etc, etc. Get a grasp of reality already. Your hero is one big con job, groomed by extreme groups and helped financially whenever possible by big brother Soros. Follow the money, and I don't mean just the fund-raising dinners. And take the hope & change and . . . (yeah, you know what I mean).

He is a dishonest man with a personal agenda that has nothing to do with the people who voted for or against him...rather his own personal ambition granted by some very rich and elite players.

Or at least according to the hysterical right wing conservakook media, he is. ;)

So, what has he done for you? You're still a Pedestrian-in-SF probably looking for a hand-out or a job.

Pedestrian-in-SF....

Or at least according to the hysterical right wing conservakook media, he is. ;)

Gosh if that were only true....It seems the left media is content to hide another Obama double dealing underhanded attempts to draw Chicago styled politics into the State of Texas. It was destined to fail. So what does MSNBC do but bury the story in Business instead of National or Politics. Hiding a headline story in a section unrelated to the topic with regard to Obama's failed personal agenda to direct the redistricting of Texas. Again that is just one more mis-goosestep to his parade of self-serving politics that has neither truly served his party, the American People or the Constitution. Add to that the other many flawed actions he has taken to attempt to garner votes in certain desperation. He is certainly proving himself a man of extremely questionable character and well to be a very dishonest man.

Mom, every time you let loose with your "chicago-style politics" nonsensical screeds, you sound like Charlie Brown's teacher... "waaa, waaa, waaa." The only desperation I'm hearing these days is from the GOTea - with a caste of characters like Newt, Mitt and Rick, no wonder you're all lying like rugs.

Gil, honey. Is there something awful about being able to walk to and from work every day? Does that rub your little gas-guzzling fur the wrong way? I've been employed since the age of 15. I know that disappoints you, me being an American and all, but it's the truth. Never claimed unemployment, never filed for disability, and I've got a nice little retirement fund too! Have a really nice day now. :)

Pedestrian...seems you are not paying attention to the world as it turns....Obama and his bid to hijack the Texas districts maps was just shot down by the Supreme Court....One more hurdle that should show eric holder for the goof he is in overstepping legal matters....

But then if you drank the kool-aid the progressives hand out you have no desire to look beyond the kaleidoscope of warm and fuzzy promises that Obama will never follow through on.

Being an Obama devotee is sort of like being on acid....You feel good and strong with well some really strange hallucinations and it is all good until the high crashes...then reality turns into a bit##.

One and done Obama...then we can get back to some sort of sound leadership.

Mom... Texas redistricting is a thinly-veiled attempt to restack the deck in favor of the GOP in time for the election. Some of us actually remember the redistricting shenanigans Tom Delay & Co. indulged in - I'm sure you think he's a fine, upstanding American, jail time or no jail time.

kool-aid progressives waaaaa-waaaaa-waaaa... Obama devotee hallucinations waaaa-waaaaa-waaaa. Hard to move aways those little talking points, isn't it, kook.

Obama 2012. Keep moving America forward.

Pedestrian...if that were so then the Supreme Court would have accepted the Judges plan to redistrict in the way they favored of the Democrats....Thing is the shame for the Democrats... It isn't about changing the entire state...It is about population concentration and where growth has actually happened not simply slicing up RNC strongholds as the judges did in my district.

Who's been fooled? This is how "business" has been done in Washington for a while now. Is it right? No, but you can't possibly think this actually shocks anybody. If the media is so liberal then why run the story at all? It doesn't shed a good light on this or any past administration. It's not like it said "this has been done in politics for years, but Obama makes it good."

JEFFINVA..

No one has been "fooled". Obama came out of one of the most corrupt political arenas in the country, Illinois. And I guess he learned his lessons well.

However, you know as well as I do that if this was ANYONE other than Obama, besides the high view they've made in the article, names dates and amounts would have been included, and more than likely, companies and contracts indicated.

The bias of the media is palpable.

Not a surprise that the 1% own Obama. At least a few of the "Occupy" crowd got the address to protest correct- not Wall St but 1600 Pennsylvania Ave! Has t+he campaign given back the Corzine money yet?

There is only one person running for POTUS that would not be corrupted but I dare not speak his name.

Business has been done in washington like this for 200 years.

Stop calling President Obama a hypocrite and speak out to the President and all of congress to change the law and make it illegal to do anything close to this backroom dealings.

He's a hyocrite because he said he was going to change Washington.

The hypocrites are AMERICANS who won't insist on changing the system. I want it changed, you want it changed, then FORCE congress to change it. Until it happens, this is the way it is. Both parties do it, and all parties need to stop it. But we have to make it happen.

You know people talk about politics in Chicago being corrupt, which is true I am sure with all other cities, but Chicago has put 4 governors in jail. My family is from Chicago and I can say first hand how amazingly corrupt it is. So is that corruption working for the people? Illinois is now considered the worst fiscal state and the city of Chicago is in poor condition. When Obama goes to Chicago to get money from the rich, does he also visit those that will vote for him, but have little money? NO. The black communities in Chicago will vote for him based on his race, but he hasn't spent a moment with any of them. He expects their vote which is really sad.

Gee, you don't think the reason they vote for dems is because of the piss poor candidates and policies of republicans?

"The black communities in Chicago will vote for him based on his race..." Actually black people throughout the U.S.A. will vote for him because of his "race". Like all progressives they believe rules only apply to "the other side". If over 95% of white voters had voted for H. Clinton in the 2008 primary or for McCain in the general the screams of "RACISM!!!" would still be echoing throughout the nation and the NAACP and progressive democrats would be trying to pass an affirmative action voting law.

"Gee, you don't think the reason they vote for dems is because of the piss poor candidates and policies of republicans?" Learn to read... never mind you are a progressive.... quit lying about what theboys wrote. The subject isn't "blacks vote for dems". The subject is "blacks vote for Obama based on his race". You only have to review the results of the 2008 democrat primary to see this is true. In the 2008 democrat primary over 93% of black voters voted for Obama. This occurred even though large majorities of black voters had supported H. Clinton in previous elections. Also, Clinton and Obama's stated policy positions were very similar... so why did only 6% of black voters vote for Clinton? The only real differences between the two are sex and race. So are blacks sexists or racists or both? Spin your way out of those facts lib50.

power and money = votes

Money = power = control

Higher than Mitten's tax rate.

Obama pulled that fast one in 2008. Challenged Mccain to take public money and when mccain did obama said sorry but i'll stick with private funds.

I think the "hope and change" was more like "bait and switch".

Or "dumb and dumber".

It's kinda like a disclosure....so later on when a candidate brings it up, big o can just say it's been done that way for years and everyone knows it.

You want it changed? Force Congress to change the laws. I would support that. But until Americans insist on it, it won't get done. Why are you bitching only when dems do it? CHANGE THE LAW.

Nancy, the 1% is not buying our government, they are the government. With the exception of some freshmen reps, most of these guys and girls are millionaires many times over.

Posters here saying we need to elect an independent candidate to get rid of cronyism, I fear, still don't get it: The culture in D.C. is what it is. It doesn't matter if you're Dem, Republicatn, Communist or Independent. It's politics, people! It's an inherent part of the culture. Next issue, please.

Fred, buddy, the word is "spelled"

Oh now come on kg - spelt is a perfectly fine word - it's like harbor and harbour - one just spent a little more time in England.

So let's just stop all Union and Corporate donations period.

But your statement is kinda confusing...you say it was an evil right wing court decision, but since big o is getting tons of corporate donations, it's o.k. now....

Yes... it is OK for the republicans to do this... but it is evil for the Dems to do it too? I say it is wrong for anyone to be doing this.. but you can not take a "holier then thou' attitude because you find out the other guy is just as bad as you are!

That is a blatently false portrayal of Citizens United. The Supreme Court stated that corporations can contribute to or create PACs. The cannot contribute directly to a candidate. Therefore, the court did not make corporations people. That is just a left wing talking point.

Sorry.. you are not correct on this one. the court has said that "corporation" do in fact have the rights and protections of n indiviual citizen" " -- that mean they are indeed a "person' under the law. -- However, with the added "provision" that since thet are not really a flesh and blood "person' they can not be charged for a crime in the same manner as a single human person could be under law.

Book 'em

Sorry, but I've seen the interview where Romney (unintentional spelling error if incorrect sp) said quite plainly that "corporations are people", as well as seen it posted many times on the vine by the right. I also seem to rember that the supreme court used that term while explaining that therefore they have the right to free speech.

Corporations are "entities", just as individuals, partnerships, estates and trusts are for tax purposes.

The Democrats have wailed and cried about how wrong this decision was while setting up plans to squeeze it for every $100,000 dollar donation they can muster. They are getting a lot too. After the Solyndra scandal, these corporations know that if Obama gets re-elected, they will indeed be allowed to "PLAY" later if they "PAY" now.

What's disgusting is how many libtards fall for his empty rhetoric and his promise of transparency. Stupid is as stupid does !

Courts have found two things prior to Citizens United: corporations have first amendment protections and financial contributions to political causes have been deemed protected by the first amendment. In Kennedy's opinion he states " ...that political speech of corporations or other associations should be treated differently under the First Amendment simply because such associations are not “natural persons.”

Kennedy further discussed that President Truman even warned of the issue after passage of the Labor Relations Management Act by stating "dangerous intrusion on free speech."

If you can show me where the court in Citizen United specifically said that a corporation is a person, I'm all ears. As I've stated, this court ruling was not the first to grant First Amendment rights to a corporation.

Your boy FlipOmney said: "Corporations are people too my friend" enough said. FilpOmney graduated from Harvard

Delusions 539...So did Obama, what does the college have to do with it moron.

no offence Len, but when Paul makes a statement like "we deserve to be attacked after all the bombing of other countries we do...", it's time to find a new hero. The man is not ready for a presidency, but is ready for maybe a rocking chair.

So you're telling us that Ron Paul collects a Government check from Congress each month for doing nothing? Obama/Biden 2012

you can cheer for paul all you want, he won't get the nomination, thus won't give people the opportunity to vote for him.

Deb, I agree that Dr. Paul will never get the Republican nomination, but I believe you are overlooking the fact that he could run for the Presidency as an Independent candidate, which could really shake things up politically. Regardless of what we think, unless there are some dramatic changes in our country, we are destined to fail economically, because an economy based on continuous borrowing and adding to the deficit, simply cannot sustain itself. At some point, the debtors have to be paid. Just look at the housing debacle. The only problem we have as a country is that we have no TARP funds or no one other than the American taxpayer to bail us out, and we are getting fewer of those, and the ones we are getting are working at lower wages and paying fewer taxes. The only rational solution is to cut spending dramatically and stop borrowing, neither of which either party is currently willing to do as is needed. Dr. Paul wants to cut one trillion dollars the first year simply by cutting the size of government, which has ballooned astronomically and is filled with redundancy. Continuing to adhere to the "Ostrich Syndrome" will not solve our problems.

There are some things that Dr. Paul saids that I like and agree with --but on the whole his policies are too extrme -- He is right that things do have to change --especially when it come to the size of government -- but in the word to one of our wisest "founding fathers" Ben Franklin -- "all things in Moderation"

@sandnomad,

It kills me every time i hear those stupid words, shrink government, cut taxes & stop spending. For one if you reduces government blindly who would you be hurting? You got it, every person who works for a living and get assistance to pay the bills. And if you think they are all black people you are fooling yourself. The majority of Americans that get assistance is white. Not only will they not be able to pay their bills it will cost their families more money just to eat. Your ideal of small government with a growing population doesn't make sense. Are you going to tell families we can no longer help you because America can't afford? You are on your own from now on. If you put a bunch of rats in a box with no food they will eat each other. Take a guess who they will be coming after if they can't feed their families? Yeah you and me and the people that have a job who work for a living. Then if the middle class shrink that portion will be looking for food as well. So if you don't help anyone it will come back to bit you in the azz one way or another. There has to be a mixed solution of smart government, private business and the educational system. Which by the way are out of control $200,000 to get a four year degree at Harvard? WOW

13 Million American are out of work and you are going to tell them sorry you are on your own. WOW

Even Jesus helped the poor.

The average rent is $600 a month: sorry poor people you are on your own the government can't help you. "Go to your local church - Ron Paul" That's his ideal of helping someone. And we all know all black people should just die now, because they have no place in Ron Paul's society. All 54 Million of them.

America is a nation of mixed races, there is no black or white anymore, there is no gay vs straight only Americans. The soon we wake up to that reality the faster we can solve problems. Like getting all money out of politics period. Only then will you see real solution to real problems, because at this present time the Rich and Wealthy own all of us. Even if you don't like it or close your eyes to it and think the Dems or GOP is the evil ones. No It's money that makes people evil and greedy.

Robert Gecko "Greed is Good"

Three words: "Citizens United Decision". You want to continue to argue or take your ball and go home?

movefoward, it's been going on for years, Citizens United had very little to do with it. Besides that, why are you harassing posters for the outcome of a Supreme Court decision. Just because someone is a Republican, does not mean they agree with everything Republican or every decision the party makes. I'm also pretty sure it works the same for Democrats.

I agree that Obama has not fullfilled much of his "promise" --and I too am disappointed by that -- and this issue too -- however, putting ALL the blame on him for not getting some things done --when he has been stopped by the GOP @ every turn -- and then blaming him for not doing the things you did not want him to do in the first place? You cannot have it both ways. It is the GOP who are fighting to keep and expand the "status -pro" by saying the best way to fix this nation's problems is to do more of the same stuff that caused most of the mess in the first place!

Please correct error in headline!

just because someone is rich doesnt mean they cant be for the people or true liberals. the difference between them and say the koch brothers is that the liberal millionaires support policies to help other people. the koch brothers only supports policies that will help them enrich themselves any more. in fact the koch brothers love policies that will oppress millions so they can make more.

Really? that is a pretty big claim, what evidence do you have of this? not your opinion but facts. Does George Soros not do exactly the same thing for the Left? tell me he is not out for power. money etc..

We are being bought and sold. Can you believe a president saying a photo ID to vote is to much to ask for? I can't believe it.

no how you think he stole the last election? black panthers on video threatening

people never prosecuted! that should tell you about racist HOLDER and OBOMBO!

He does not YET, but not because of altruistic values. His party has raised what $270 million, he is not running in a primary for the election like the Republicans, he has the power of incumbency. If a super - pac is needed for Mr. O you can bet he will have one

Yes Obama does have a Superpac. It is called MoveOn.org and it is owned and funded by George Soros!

moveforward...you cannot possible be that naive

Yep, Ron Paul will put all those food stamp grabbing, welfare cheating, entitlement using "darkies" in the their place, won't he?

Sam,

What the hell is a "darkie"??

Ron Paul 2012

"..If you know what's good for you.. "

Too old, and too racist.