Beer traded for sex, isn't that called high school ?

where I worked at it depended on what the other person looked like and what they would do, but at least a case of beer or a fifth of alcohol

The problem is the Sioux have the right to declare the reservation dry. But declaring Nebraska dry is another matter. The Sioux rez doesn't only border on one small town in Nebraska. When you shut down that liquor store and the traffic moves to the next nearest place then what do you do? Are you going to shut down liquor sales in western Minnesota and Iowa? How about the rest of South Dakota where the rez actually is? So to keep the Sioux people from drinking we would end up closing liquor stores in parts of 4 states. Prohibition anyone? Remember what happened then. And by the way don't hand me that only white men introduced liquor to the native Americans. Ever hear of tequila, mezcal and tiswin all those cactus juices are native to the continent.

Cacti belong in the southwest, not in the northern plains.

I don't always have sex, but when I do I trade Dos Eques (sp) . The most desperate man on Earth !

If people want to buy alcohol in a free country the Sioux haven't a damn thing to say about it. Hopefully the Sioux will get charged lots of money for filing a frivolous lawsuit.

I have never seen so much ignorance on one website. It is a fact that American Indians do not have a critical protein in their DNA to process alcohol thus creating a problem of alcoholism. Now for all of you biologists and geniuses on this web posting there was never any alcohol consumption before the onset and invasion of Europeans on this continent. In Europe the consumption of alcohol has been a normal lifestyle especially since the water of Europe was not potable due to pollution from agriculture, human waste and the denuding of the lands. To avoid getting sick and dying Europeans began consuming alcohol with every meal, for hydration and recreation and had hundreds of years to genetically adapt. Even today some Europeans are readily consumed by alcohol. As for legal standing on the banning of alcohol sales or trading sex for booze does have its legal ramifications. Prostitution and Johns are illegal and when it involves tribal citizens you bring a third dimension to the table which is 25CFR and the FBI. There could be major problems for both parties involving the federal courts in Madison, SD or in Nebraska not to mention tribal courts. You posters really need to mature and stop with the BS rhetoric as a child would espouse.

So all you folks who think the Sioux don't have the right to shut down these leaches will agree that we have no right to intervien in Columbia, Bolivia, Afganistan, Panama, Nicaragua etc. etc. Right?

Gotta wanta, nothing will stop this until they choose to stop it. They have proven that their lives and the lives of their children are less important that a buzz.

you could always try the Texas approach. When crossing the Mexican border underage and drunk as a skunk you get charged with possession of an alcoholic beverage. It's in your stomach. Pretty much took care of underage drinking in Mexico.

Robbob, the problem is more complex than your post indicates. Why don't you just say you don't care, rather than posting a blanket statement. Not every alcoholic, Native Americans included, cares for the buzz more than their own lives or their children. It's not as cut and dried as that. People don't wake up one day and decide "the hell with the kids, I'm going to become an alcoholic."

It's much more insidious than that.

People have a right to destroy themselves. It is not the place of anyone to force people to be healthy.

We people are not so far removed from the segregated past. Not just that of African Americans, but of Native Americans too. This is what conservatives fail to recognize in this present atmosphere. Alcoholism was not a problem familiar to Native Americans until introduced by the white man not so very many hundred years ago. A people without immunity to the effects, people who had not suffered with the alcoholic chaos which had literally killed off many of the white European drinkers centuries earlier - and with them, their alcohol-intolerant descendents. This has all occured in the span of less than 200 years. A blink of an eye in historical terms. Native Americans without a direct lineage to white, alcohol-drinking parentage are far more likely to become alcoholic, because it is literally a poison to their body, to which they can have no natural defense. That makes it the responsibility of all who call themselves American to help, to investigate further; and above all else to make sure these human beings are being taken care of.

Rick's Real - you need to go back and do Native American History 101 over again. Native American Indians DID drink alcohol BEFORE the English immigrants arrived on the eastern seaboard. While it was not strong, one cannot say that it was the English who introduced the demon drink to the native American Indian. The English drank alcohol because they believed that the water was contaminated and it was scorned by the English because it was free! Early visitors to England used to comment about this fact. The English had an abundance of water, but drank beer.

You appear to state that the Indians started to drink alcohol or beer because of the English settlers. This is patently incorrect. The native American Indian produced an alcoholic drink that was low in alcohol. Not all of the tribes made alcohol and others had a difference preference for winter and summer beverages; such as sassafras and wild mint or sumac berries that they called sumacade.

If you are going to give historical facts try and get the facts straight and stop with retelling history with made up facts.

P.S. It is not unusual for many cultures to prefer wine over water because of diseases associated with contaminated water sources.

No Rob bob it has been the White Man and his minions who have proven over the last 400 years that American Indians are less than human. Have you forgotten the term "red skins" which was a form of currency due to the Federal Government putting a bounty on American Indians like that of a wolf? I bet if these were blacks who were treated like this today there would be an uprising and riots like nothing seen before. When you only number 2 million people in the entire world you are definitely the minority race with little to no voice. You should be ashamed that you would even espouse such rhetoric or even think it.

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Rick's Real - you need to go back and do Native American History 101 over again.

Sorry. I guess I must have missed the part where the Native Americans invited the Pilgrims over to build a new world for white folks. Kind of like how I missed the part where Africans were invited to vacation on the plantations of Southern masters. But you just go right on ahead rewriting your own special history.

I take it you're not Native American and don't know anyone who is! Not only was their land taken away, but their money and opportunities for a better life were robbed from them as well. Read your high school American history book (if you can comprehend it, that is!) before you go pointing fingers!!!

art, sir: while I can understand your point of view, I object (as is my right in a free country) to your tone. You don't get it. These native americans have an issue with alcohol, and abstinence education, which I believe is ongoing is obviously not working so well. So, this free citizen hopes they win their fight, for their people.Shame, Shame on the sellers, those merchants knowing full well that the folks coming into their establishement have issues, but they're merchants. (I am reminded of the opium sellers in the early part of the 20th century who knew their product was not good, yet continued to sell because there was a market for it) Perhaps if the reservation set up a 24/7 guard outside that seller's door?

Not only Native Americans are faced with this problem, but all citizens should demand that shady and crooked business people should be stopped in their dealings. Alcohol has been a great factor in the destruction of our Nation. The Federal Government is nothing but a gang of bootleggers. I am in my 80's and remember prohibition of selling the stuff. The Feds were jealous and took over the booze for taxes. Drugs and sex are great to attract each other.

Art, you are probably white, soon you or your offspring will have the experience of having your culture

overtaken and replaced with people that don't speak your language or will replace it and see you as a minority outsider.Not that you would jump at the chance to join the conqueroring hordes and you'll decide to stay with your own kind you will perfectly understand at that moment and the drink may help you with your new status ...this reality, coming soon Art, to you and yours..Your goverment has already elected a new people and it ain't you!

I don't think you get it "Art"

You want to blame the victims, YES I did say THE VICTIMS of this on-going genocide of our ingenious people. While the greedy S.O.B.'s that own these business's are probably okay in your book, making a profit off of other people's misery.

I worked on the reservation years ago in Montana, my son now teaches on the Navaho Reservation in Az. I assume most people that are posting here have never been to the res, it is a tragic place, for a once proud people that have been stripped of their cultural identity. There are few oppourtunities for gainful employment or any kind of upward mobility

I hope the tribe wins and these greedy people in Nebraska are stripped of what matters most to them, their money.

Thank goodness you all told Art the reality of it all. I have never been to a reservation but I did watch a documentary on it and it mad me so sad..I feel so bad for these Proud people.I hope the WIN and that they can get the proper help that they deserve. Hopefully they will get it from within their tribe .I am sure there are some that live there that are going after the education that can help the people in their reservation. I pray that they win their battle and be proud once again..

Will an aunt until age 10 Chippewa, a cousin in Vista on the Navajo Rez, and a neighbor when I was in my twenties Winnebago Sioux, and a husband part Cherokee do? Yes they got a raw deal. But it has been over 100 years since Wounded Knee. The Natives in Oklahoma seem to be OK. The Alaskan natives seem to be ok. I know a bunch of alcoholics that aren't native American.The only way to get that pride back is to do it themselves. This is exactly what I fear the nanny state liberals are pushing so hard is going to reduce the rest of us to.

You are so wrong on so many levels. What is going on with the Native American culture goes back very far and has many elements to it. Most of us cannot even imagine.

Imagine living peacefully, respecting the land and it's animals, and then having soldiers come and tell you to move. And then move again. And again. Until you're sitting on a piece of land. All the land you once lived on is no longer yours. Your pride and your identity have been taken from you. It would be very easy to turn to alcohol.

I hope these guys win this fight. They are trying and I applaud their effort. Don't knock them.

I wish people wouldn't judge until they have a few facts. It's so easy to say it's their problem, they need to straighten up. Sometimes it's not so easy. Visit a reservation, it might open your eyes.

What are the reservation leaders doing to improve people's lives other than this lawsuit?

The US government goes all the way to Bolivia to try to stop drug production there.

Watch 500 Nations, it is a documentary about the conquest of the Americas written from the point of view of the people who were here FIRST. It's not easy to watch, well not if you're human. I wish they would teach the truth to our children in school rather than these "American Exceptionalism" fairy-tales. People need to see and hear the very brutal, ugly truth.

Alex you are so very right, and if it was only the Souix that were affected by the drugs coming out of bolivia the US governement would probably pay them to produce more.

I have been on a Reservation. It was back in the 90's we played a few soccer matches against them. I have been through some horrible ghettoes also and I for one would have rather been there then on the reservation we played at. Those kids were so angry and it was run down that I couldn't imagine anyone being able to make it in that place. Why would you want to add alcohol to that sort of situation? I mean how many times do you have to hear that many Native Americans are missing the genetic mutation that allows for alcohol to be broken down properly?

Stop selling them things that are akin to crack because you want to make money.

So in short, yes I can see why they ,the Rez, would like those types of legalized drugs to stop flowing into their boarders. You cannot have a functioning society that is buzzed out.

Press your thumb and forefinger together as hard as you can squeeze them together. That's how much empathy you and your party have for those less fortunate. You would all have made Jesus so proud. Unfortunately if there really is a hell - which for the record there isn't - you're likely the ones going there so you'll never get to meet him anyway. And that's what you truly can't pray away... the truth of who and what you are and the way you have thought and acted during this Republican Presidential Primary Cirus. If you don't agree with the current Republican party but you call yourself a Republican, it's time to stand up - you can't have the balls to lead or to take America back if you're too weak to take your own party back. Don't forget. This is all being recorded for playback at a later date. Judgment day will be in Hi Def, bitches! Stop talking about contraceptives and a woman's rights - and gay rights - and civil rights - and immigrant's rights - and children's rights, and the rights of the elderly - why are you always fighting to take away people's rights? Is it because you think you are slave owners and we, your slaves?

Lone reb you are so full of @!$%# I can smell it through my laptop. Your ilk is what is wrong with this country. Actually since not one treaty was honored all of the land that was taken by treaty or business deal would normally revert back to the owners as with any business welch. The courts hid behind the Doctrine of Discovery which emanated from the papal bull of 1452. Get off your arse and read instead of sitting on it drinking Lone Star belching and farting on your front porch sitting on your couch. Plain enough?

You are not well informed. The Native people have very little opportunity. There is so much talk about prejudice against this group or that, and all the associated stereotypes. But NONE are as true as that against Native people.

Recently, with top grades, I applied for a summer program at Tufts University for diversity in the medical sciences. They decided that Blacks and Hispanics were a better choice for this lack of "diversity", and I was passed over because I was not African American or Hispanic. There are NO INDIANS. I have only heard of one woman, a Native doctor. Currently, I am the only student who is Native American on my campus, or pursuing a medical degree. Don't talk about opportunity!

Bluetick Donna: I send waves of positive thoughts to you - Go strong, work hard for your people, for your country - prove them ALL wrong. And I do understand the black/hispanic thing. I've been passed over due to that 'ethnic' divide - it's sad, but know that this citizen will pray daily for your success.

At one time, the Sioux Nations had good land, and fairly decent prospects. The land they were forced onto as treaty land is grazing land, and poor at that. Some of the tribes had good river bottom land, then the government came back in the 1930's and took that away to build dams so the rest of you can have electricity. What is needed is for corporations to recognize the potential workforce here, and set up plants, hire and train the native population. Then they will have a chance at beating the alcoholism, which occurs because there are no opportunities.

Bluetick that is why I am against "diversity" programs if you aren't the diversity they happen to be looking for forget it. It is artificial and you would have stood a better chance if the application was run through with a number instead of a name and no race statistics. Then you and the white kid and the black kid and the hispanic kid would all have the same chance to get the position. As it is since you weren't the flavor of the month you had no chance. 1/4 is better than 0/4. If you want those plants to come you have to do what other places do, hustle. Tribal leaders need to get out there and sell your workforce and possible tax advantages and whatever. How do you think Texas get companies to come? They sell the no state income tax, they give 5 year tax breaks they make the companies see the advantage of locating in Texas. Quit waiting for Big Daddy to do it. He is BROKE and so far in debt my grandchildren will be paying the deficit we have now.

Blue-tick Donna been there done that. As a citizen of the Muscogee Nation there was no free ride for me. I paid for all of my formal education at the University of Tulsa, UC and Miami University and graduated with a post graduate degree in the Earth Sciences. I became a federal scientist at one of the leading federal agencies know for its scientific research and have been insulted more than once by these old farts, men and women, letting me know NDN's never will have a chance at being the best they can be or even equals to the established and gilded races in the sciences. Obama made promises but he too has caved into the majority and has put the real minorities on the total back burner and hasn't made his own employees straighten up and follow the laws set by Congress. How can you expect anyone else to evolve when the likes of Abramoff and his minions still think of us a troglodytes? The sad thing is that these universities are more than willing to use of to get grants to line their pockets with. I have proof of this since I was one of those shammed.

Bluetick Donna I know how you feel. Of course I'm a Cherokee Freedmen so I doubt you could possibly know how "we" feel.

Is that the best you could come up with on short notice?

You didn't really expect intelligence on here now did you?

No not really I guess, thank you for reminding me.

rocs intelligence ran down his mothers leg!

Another reminder I see!

You are a POS Choc.

Your mother is related to Custer.

Relly 2000 years ago my people were hunter/gatherer/warrior. The Romans took advantage of that and divided the tribe into two by conning two brothers sons of the chief into war so they could rule. It happens to everybody sometime in history. Those same people are the Germans, the Swiss, the people of southern France and northern Spain and the Saxon people of England. They got over it. And they lost their religion too. All that is left is the evergreen tree and the liberals want to take public display of that away now.

The Saxons did the same thing to us. All we got left was the Shamrock and the Jack o Lantern.....and whiskey, we invented whiskey. You're welcome.

P.S. I'm saving a less de-railed post until after I read everyone else's to make sure I'm not being redundant.

Coplymd: I am glad that you have beaten that issue - so help your people to do the same. Yes, I get that it's a self control issue - but some have real issues with addiciton - alcohol, tobacco, drugs - not everyone has the ability to walk away, some are stronger than others. So those who are strong, like your self, should work hard to reach out, extend a helping hand to those who are not as strong - are you not already doing that for the benefit of your people, for the benefit of your nation, your country? Are you not already doing that? Surely you are.

Copleymd: are you a medical doctor? So certainly you understand the issues with addiction - issues with the fact, medically proven fact, that not everyone is wired the same. Some have major issues with addiction and can not, physically can not, beat it; they need a hand up. I do hope for the betterment of my country that you are giving a hand up to those who need it.

kate-344962 I do my part to help these people. My people and sadly most of them don't want help. Here is what will happen. They'll get the "money" and go to town and spend on unnecessary things. They'll buy the kids something nice and send them home while they go out and party. This is the 3rd reservation i have been on and I have yet to see any difference. I am originally from the reservation mentioned in the article. After talking to my birth mother(whom i have never met. She gave me up cause her family is prejudice against Hispanics) The Native American people(NOT ALL) are a very prejudice people against anyone that is not native American. As many have kept the finger pointing and blaming the white man for their problems much alive.

I counsel children, teens and young adults alike who all have the same story. "Mom or dad had a chance but gave it up for drinking/drugs and I'm paying for their misery." Many of these kids are left home when the parents go drinking. 98% of these kids have been sexually abused before the age 10. When they ask the parents why they let it happen, The finger pointing begins and it slowly trickles down to the white coming in and taking the land. After its all said and done the kids don't get any help coping with the problem and the offender doesn't get into any trouble so the problem continues. Why? 'Cause none of this would have happened if the white man would have left us alone.'

Being one person i find it a daily struggle to tell these people to leave that in the past and move on. Yes it is hurtful but now it is time to move on. Fight tooth and toenail in the end you will get a ' Financial Settlement' and here we go again. I strive to teach these people different.

If it weren't for a 'white man' i would have never been adopted and told about a God who helps you heal. He is the only man that took time to teach me to make the best of my circumstances. He made sure i finished school and at least tried to go to college. This white man taught me morals, standards, self control,self respect,love, kindness,how to be strong when things go wrong and the list goes on. I owe my life to this 'white man' and i call him Dad. My dad has given his life to help these people and just recently after 30yrs and 3 reservations he is finally hearing how he made a difference(big or small) in someones life.

It took some time but after years of watching and listening and asking questions, I have learned enough to finally be able to help them see what is really going on. I love these people. I give all my free time, money, and many other things just so i can help at least one beat the problems(Addiction, poverty, emotional and physical abuse alike) these people face. Tonight i will go to a youth group meeting and tell the younger generation that all people, people of every color race and religion have to face the same things they do but they can overcome. So yes Kate i do my part in helping my people But NO Kate i am not a doctor those are just my initials=)

Kate I have friends who check every box on the census. All their families have addiction problems, mine did. I tended bar when I was 11 I saw many of my people in there everyday downing a shot with a beer chaser over and over again. They were half looped every evening. I'm not native American but I saw enough of that to know I was never going there.

Wabbit: loved your post - right on target. It's good to hear that there are citizens out there with gray matter between their ears.

Dear Wabbit...There have always been those unscrupulous few - from Cain on down to this day, who will prey on the weak. The answer to that is to raise our children to be strong and make them able to resist the easy path - and take the high road. Obviously, the answer is NOT the American Government, who from the very first has dealt dishonourably with the Native Americans, and will continue to do so by covering their backsides and saying that people such as those in White Clay who are doing the trade, are "within their rights as business owners." Which, by the way, was how the Sioux lost their country in the first place. The American Government did not have the guts to stand behind it's own treaties, but sided with the greedy and money grubbing thieves that invaded! God bless and and be with the Sioux in their struggle to regain their strength!

Fine we close down Whiteclay which town is next? Alcoholics will drink anything cough medicine is mostly alcohol want to close the nearest drugstore too. You can't legislate it you have to solve it with the addict. Have you ever talked with an alcoholic? You know it doesn't take a genius to make alcohol. Most good old boys in the south can tell you how to make a still and what you need for the mash. Any old grain will do with some sugar and water.The Apaches used cactus.

I believe that the tribe leaders can legislate the lowering of alcoholism incidence in the population. If the tribe had stronger laws against alcohol and against alcoholics, the people taking part in those activities would be forced to reduce their consumption.

justross: good point, but based upon the article it's a desperation move - obviously the abstinence education didn't work so well. But there is the point that the merchant set up just outside the reservation with the quite obvious intent of selling the majority of product to those on the reservation. The merchant's intent was not a good one.

Additional problem is that the reservation is in South Dakota, and while the state might be willing to do something, it can't because the liquor stores are in Nebraska. The SD borders of the tribal boundary do not have the same issue. Nebraska could do something about this if they wanted, but nobody in Nebraska sees it as a problem, because the alcohol is moving across the border into South Dakota and the reservation.

Kate says "The merchant's intent was not a good one."

Really? That's a curious statement. It seems like every merchant's intent is to sell a product, and sell as much of it as possible. Unless you're willing to say that every merchant of alcohol has bad intentions, it's hard to say this particular merchant's intent was bad. There's a market for the product, the merchants are just trying to meet the market demand.

Would you also be willing to say that Indian casino operators have bad intent? They set up the casinos right on the edge of the reservation, as close to major population centers as they can get them, with the obvious intent of enticing non-Indians to part with their money across a craps table or into a slot machine.

Regulatory borders always create markets on one side where people will cross the border to pick up products not or services legal where they are from. This isn't unique to reservation borders. The existence of the duty free shop, filling that space between international borders and thus dodging taxes in either jurisdiction, are great examples of this principle. Tijuana's entire economic existence is based on being a place where Americans can do things not legal in the US.

Of course, this physical locations are merely holdovers from a less mobile time. Today, people hop on a plane or on the internet to cross regulatory boundaries for the goods and services they desire. Kids go to Amsterdam to smoke pot. The rich manage, over the internet, accounts in Switzerland or the Cayman Islands where they be anonymous and avoid taxes. What is seen in one jurisdiction as a necessary good or service is seen as a problem and regulated in others.

Did you know Kate that every HS student who takes basic chemistry can tell you haw to make a still? My grandmother brewed beer in the kitchen for her husband during prohibition, and my Uncle Frank made his own wine. These people never got past the fifth grade. Most winery's have web sites where you can order for shipment all you need is a PO Box. You'll never stop it. Casinos have contributed to a growing gambling addiction in the US. Should Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota and South Dakota all sue to close Indian casinos?

Evenstar13 We tried to stop drinking Remember? The worst idea in American history. Do you know the result? After prohibition there were more alcoholics per capita than before? Since they were breaking the law anyway the social strictures that kept most people in line were gone. And prohibition also was the beginning of the rise of underage drinking for the same reason. Most people are capable of drinking socially but in every ethnic group there are those who can't. You can't restrict everyone to keep the rest from having a problem. Alcohol was made by almost every primative tribe at one time or another. Some of us just specialized in our favorites as we "civilized".

I disagree bigdog - we are all our brothers keeper -

The problem Kate is I don't want a keeper. My home state gave me a card a long time ago that said I was all grown up. With the all grown up notion comes the personal responsibility notion. The liberal nanny state isn't much different than the White Father will take care of you idea. How is that working out? I think we are headed for more trouble than we know.

David in 1965 my university in its survey American history course required a term paper on our family history from 1865 on. They compiled the results and gave them out. 75% of the freshman class was descended from bootleggers or draft dodgers or both. Tell you anything?

You think white people invented alcohol and prostitution? Really? what other bad things did we create under your "etc"? I think you should be honored to have an opportunity to learn anything anywhere, because clearly you have not yet had that opportunity in your life.

Elizabeth as long as that is your attitude you can expect this problem to go on. Blaming Whitey hasn't gotten your people anywhere? Before my people left Europe slavery was over, the Indian wars were over and you still want to blame people that were peasant farmers and serfs (a polite name for slave to the land) after 1870. We broke our chains it is time for you to break yours.

historian, Being a cynic I'm sure if your house or land is taken to repay this debt to the natives you'll somehow find a way to cite the whitemans laws...

Historian have you ever read history of the human race long enough to find out that mankind moved West until they wouuld have moved back where they started from? Where did the Goths come from before they moved into Europe? Where did the native Americans come from before they moved here? Buddy we all came from Asia and kept moving till there was no place left to move. The only people who didn't come out of Asia are the Blacks and the people of the mid-east And the people of Asia came from them.

lonereb,

Africa, we all immigrated from Africa to everywhere else.

The only way to solve the problem is to move on psychologically. Anybody who lives in the poor me psychology is doomed to fail. Looking back gets you nowhere. Poor me the job I should have had moved to China,India,Mexico. Get a different one the Big Daddy handouts come with a price, your freedom. They took my land, a hundred years ago, find a new way to live within your culture, the buffalo is gone and it ain't coming back. I blame the tribal leaders. They have to do for their people what the state of Texas does for its people. Go out there hustle companies to look at you as a place to settle. Jobs are coming back from Offshore are you telling me the Chinese are better people than you are and you can't make the same things they did? It is time to start giving your people a new pride a new reason for not being a drunk. My people moved from rural Europe ( job goosegirl for the lord of the land) to a factory job in Milwaukee.With fourth and fifth grade educations their kids worked and raised the greatest generation who survived the dust bowl, the depression, WW II and put this country into space. They didn't cry gee we lost the land because grandpa was disinheirted. They worked for a new life.

Yes Indian casinos serve alcohol. Other Reservations have had the same problems as the one in the article. They solved it by building a casino, legalizing alcohol on the reservation, and using casino profits to build multi million dollar treatment centers, provide free full ride college educations to any tribal member who wants it, free top of the line medical care and large percapita checks a couple of times a year. And jobs, good paying jobs. Those that have gone this route are not trying to get it removed at all.

Prohibition never works. Not for the reservation. Not for the nation. The Souix reservation's position with Whiteclay in regards to alcohol is exactly the same as the US's problem with Mexico in regards to Marijuana. Both problems are solvable by the already tried and proven method outlined in the first paragraph, legalization, regulation, education and treatment.

Why don't your Winnebago brothers in Wisconsin have as great a problem as you do? I know Winnebago's live in Nebraska do they have your problem in the same degree? They are Sioux too aren't they. I know many Chippewa and Ho-Chunk tribesmen live in Wisconsin nobody is trying to close bars and liquor stores there. That would make the American revolution look tame if they tried.What about the other Wisconsin tribes? I think there are five tribes in Wisconsin Why don't you find out how they handle it?

What are you going to do Beni, get tough behind a computer screen. Douche bag!!!

Blahblah yawn babble.

Sorry Benny boy, were you speaking?

Benjamin 12 miles from the Wisconsin line in Illinois is a town that had 3 liquor stores and the number of Wisconsin plates parked outside those stores was amazing. I wasn't because you couldn't buy liquor in Wisconsin but you couldn't buy Half gallon bottles. It was cheaper to buy half gallon bottles in Illnois if a group pooled their orders. My husband and I made 2 trips a year for ourselves and our cousins and friends. I'm sure Illinois knew all that liquor wasn't being drunk by the locals it was a small town after all. And the towns business came from Wisconsin and the dry town 12 miles east.

I remember when Wis. had a lower drinking age than Ill. it was great for the bars and clubs close to the boarder business boomed.

LOL, I tended bar in a club like that back in the eighties. The number of kids we served from across the state line on a Friday night, was three times the population of the town we were located in.

LOL. Kodain you are a joke with your rhetoric. Your statement is akin to Columbus discovering a new land which is another joke too. When will you folks begin reading real history instead of to the victor go the spoils mentality maybe you will see you all have been lied to in order to justify a holocaust in America. Have you ever visited a university library that is a federal repository? If you get the chance please do and pull the papers written by Washington, Jefferson and other claimed to be great men. I guarantee it will open your eyes unless you are not able to accept the truth of these factual papers. I was fortunate to have attended a university that has a federal repository and our history classes were based on these papers and writing assertions on our reading of them.