How would the Feds know if there was a federal crime commited if they do not investigate?

What an idotic thing to say...the feds have not just a legal obligation, but a moral obligation to investgate before any more "evidence' can be distroyed, hidden, or falsified...they may not find federal law has been broken, but they certainly won't know until they investigate!

Penn. State officials didn't do anything to deserve investigating. They all looked the other way. They didn't witness anything. Give me a %^@$^ break. The minute Mr. S. took one boy, and there were others across state lines the offense was elevated to the federal level. Interstate transportation in the commission of felony assault is a federal crime in addition to any state charges he may be prosecuted for. Unlike many states, the feds do not have statute of limitation issues with sex crimes, especially against minors. PEDOPHILE!

JR - you are an idiot. The US attorney general wants to investigate a coverup of CHILDREN BEING ABUSED and this is a waste of money? |If you followed this case at all, you would know the people investigated seem to have covered this up over 10 years ago and turned a blind eye to protect "the program", unfortunately causing JoePa to be the face and therefore the scapegoat of the coverup. You sound like either a PSU employee or pedophile or both.

I think these investigations, besides the obvious, will help awaken college administrators across the country that there are things a lot more important than the prestige of their college football team... Turning a blind eye and allowing countless children to be scarred for life is criminal in my book...

Well Sarge, guess you should read the article. The question is not whether or not they witnessed anything, it is whether or not they PAID OFF complainants. That would be a crime and confirm that were aware of the problem long before it became public.

a crime, maybe, a federal crime is a stretch tho.

I would think that the government has a lot more important things to do than waste their time and resources in this matter.

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Hmm, JR...

Whats more important that protecting our children, JR?

Like it when Scraps rubs and down on your leg, JR?

Ever been in a Turkish Prison, JR?

Quite a fan of pedo-penn, JR?

Lets just say your statement is rather disturbing, to say the least.

JR - are you a Penn State graduate or current student by any chance?

I know according to TXCN Texas news channel that they have also conferred with Bexar county officials. Thats the county San Antonio is in. I assume it regards the trip to the Alamo Bowl and it was said the officials were cooperating. I think Pa is not the only place gonna hang his butt. If he committed a crime in my state he should be charged in my state too. And Florida also.

I agree with JR. This is simply grandstanding and piling on by the Feds. If there is any evidence, Sandusky is going to be in jail for the rest of his life.

This has nothing to do with protecting children, and everything to do with politics.

Chester12: RIGHT ON !!!! I agree with you 100%.

They have to hit these people hard.

We all know how fed jobs work. Loaf around until something sounds interesting to do. Does this situation really necessitate huge ependitures of our tax dollars? Investigate McCreary for his lies.

All of the bloggers out here who are aghast about the thought of a coverup. I agree if there were abuses occurring on campus. Someone had the moral (not legal) obligation to notify the authorities. Bad judgement is not a crime in Pennsylvania, but trying to bribe an witness, or pay for someones silence is a crime.

For example several years ago a good friend of mine, his step son passed away from a night of hard partying while his buddies did nothing but put him in bed. No charges were ever filed against anyone involved. Again bad judgment is not a crime, morally something should have been done.

I agree all children need to be protected from predator's But that is a battle for the courts. Parents also have an obligation to do their homework on what types of camps they send their children to.

I must wonder though, how many of the commentors on this site are all for protecting children, yet still support Obama's health care reform paying for abortions?????????

JUST SAYING?

garcher, you were doing good until you brought up Obama. We're not talking politics here! It's about child abuse. I hate govt. waste as much as anyone, but there was cover-ups definately. Many people at PSU knew what was going on. Keep the politics out of it and focus on the children.

Letusreason

I agree with JR. This is simply grandstanding and piling on by the Feds. If there is any evidence, Sandusky is going to be in jail for the rest of his life.

This has nothing to do with protecting children, and everything to do with politics.

IF there is any evidence? I think you need to read up on this case, as you have clearly missed a lot of the news coverage.

There were other Penn State employees who witnessed Sandusky abusing children and testified before a grand jury. The former prosecutor vanished without a trace. Sandusky's documented behavior went on for years while the powers that be at Penn State looked the other way.

Only an apologist for pedophiles or a coward would want to do anything less than get to the very bottom of this case, no matter where it leads.

The reason the PSU janitors didn't call police in 2000 when one saw Sandusky allegedly sexually-assaulting a boy was because they feared for their jobs. That was probably the reason McQueary didn't call police in 2002. He was trying to get a permanent coaching job at Penn State. The reality is that whistle blowers often are retaliated against and suffer more than the criminal.

There is no evidence that DA Ray Gricar disappeared in 2005 because of the Sandusky case. If anyone wanted to harm him, it would have been the victims, because he refused to charge Sandusky in 1998. It seems unlikely he was about to charge Sandusky in 2005 because he was about to retire.

It is hard to say why DA Gricar disappeared, quite a mysterious case. However, his refusal to charge Sandusky would have been useless to anyone after he retired. The useful thing would have been his files and records on the case for the next DA, including whatever information Gricar may have had on his laptop. Gricar could have been killed because someone feared the information that Gricar would hand off to the new DA. On the other hand, maybe it had nothing to do with the Sandusky case. Right now there is no evidence as to exactly what happened to Gricar and why. Even suicide cannot be totally ruled out, if Gricar was the one worried about what was on his laptop. Gricar disappeared near a bridge over the Susquehanna River almost exactly 10 years after his brother jumped off a bridge, and the authorities admit that they cannot be sure that his body would have ultimately turned up if he did jump off the bridge.

I beleive all those investigations and actions are attributable to Republicans in Congeress and the Senate. None were instigated by the Justice Department.

I think you all need to know the Mann Act way older than you think. When I was 14 which was 50 years ago I already had heard of the Mann Act. Transporting someone across state lines for sex is a crime in this country. It was a crime when Eisenhower was president.

It's a systemic problem; just like the Catholic Church........

@JR -

If one of these boys were your son, you'd sing a different song. You'd want anybody and everybody looking into this slimeball excuse for a man.

I agree, Suzq. Those who let children be harmed in any way and fail to help them, and those who apologize and cover up for pedophiles are going to be singing a different tune when the same thing happens to their kids.

Karma is a bitch, JR.

Wow Allison - you seem to be privy to so much more than the PA State Attorney General's office. Exactly, how do you know that "far too many people" knew? I guess my crystal ball must be on the blink.

wryview, I guess I knew because I read the Grand Jury Findings last year like most people did...you didn't?

If for no other reason than historical and archival purposes, backups are maintained by most organizations. Not necessarily for the purpose of some future law suit, but mainly to preserve a record of the sequence of events of the operations of the organization. Backups are routinely made of all servers so that while the actual hard drives themselves may have died or been disposed of long ago, the backups persist, usually off site in a climate controlled environment.

Additionally, depending on what the subject matter is, there may federal, state and/or local obligations to maintain certain records, including electronic transactions such as documents, e-mails, etc.

At the company where I work, I can pull backups for some of our machines that go back at least that far (1998).

Paul - You are assuming that all files were actually on a server.

Any university that large uses servers instead of individual units. And I know even payroll records must be maintained for 7 years. One of my jobs was to pull records that could be destroyed. Every box in storage had destroy after__— on it. If no date that department had to check it to make sure it could be destroyed.

He would enjoy it !

He will get a real "probe" when he's behind bars.

Note to MSNBC:

never use the words "Probe" and "Sandusky" together in a headline

You're a sick person.

@Ron

So your only regret over a child molester is that he didn't molest more children? Some stupidity knows no bounds. I hope you don't have any children --- for everyone's sake.

Denver

you have no clue as to life. Joe knew Jerry molested children but did not care. If the a hole had his children or grandchildren molested he would have stopped the pervert. All he cared about was winning (so did Charlie Sheen).

If you were molested you would know the feelings and the guilt, so FU

@Ron - Other than being one sick f--k for wishing Paterno's kids and grandkids had been molested, you are also dead wrong on your facts.

Paterno only knew what he was told by McQueary, which was very little. McQueary's story about exactly what he told Paterno has varied quite a bit, but in the end it seems that all he told Paterno was that he saw Sandusky in the shower with a kid "horsing around." He did not tell Paterno that he saw anything sexual happen, because according to McQueary's latest version of the events, he did not actually see anything sexual happen. Contrary to your statement, Paterno did care and reported what he was told to his superiors, including the university athletic director, the university president, and the university VP who was in charge of the campus police. Paterno then left in the hands of these people to investigate what happened and take appropriate action. Do not try and blame Paterno for the failures of these three men. Paterno had no responsibility or authority to do any investigating and could have gotten in trouble himself if he interfered with the police investigation. As a rule, police to not take kindly to anyone sticking their nose into police investigations. Unlike some colleges where the campus police are little more than security guards, at Penn State they are actually real police officers. Even if Paterno had decided to go to the local off campus police, they would not have been able to do much based on Paterno's word, since he did not actually witness anything. They would have had to get McQueary to talk to them, since he as the only actual witness.

While some may feel that Paterno should have pressed his superiors more on the investigation, he had no legal obligation to do anything more than he did. There is no way that any rational person can say that Paterno did anything criminal that would warrant his estate being sued. He certainly had no knowledge other than the statement from McQueary regarding the one kid. He had no way of knowing that there were nine more supposed victims out there, assuming you believe all of the victims are telling the truth. Since at least two of the accusers have had their stories placed in doubt by other evidence, I would wait to pass judgement on Sandusky until the investigation is complete and all the fact are in. Do I think that Sandusky showed extremely poor judgement by showering with kids, obviously yes. However, so far there has been no evidence made public that supports the accusations of contact of a sexual nature.

After the whole McMartin daycare fiasco in CA, I tend to wait until all the facts are in before passing judgement. In that case it turned out that the original accuser made up the story. The parents of other children saw potential dollar signs from a lawsuit and the me too parade started. The kids were pressured by parents and others into making additional accusation by being coached and led into what to say.

Ron - Joe did NOT know. He knew that McQuery might have witness something. Period.

Prove it you are real brave attacking dead people who can't defend themselves.

@ Ron:

"If you were molested you would know the feelings and the guilt..."

And if that's where you are coming from Ron, how could you possibly wish that on anyone's innocent child. You justify child abuse to get back at parents.

That is sick.

Ron- you are a stupid jackass of the first order, scumb bag.

Ron--are you paid by the word or by the post?

Joe Paterno did testify to the grand jury.

"Joseph V. Paterno testified to receiving the graduate assistant's report (about Sandusky) at his home on a Saturday morning (March 2). Paterno testified the graduate assistant was very upset. Paterno called Tim Curley ("Curley"), Penn State Athletic Director and Paterno's immediate superior, to his home the very next day, a Sunday, and reported to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy."

He did follow-up, calling in the people at the university who had the authority to investigate. The sale of the house to his wife for $1 is no red flag--people who are elderly and have spouses who are likely to outlive them are often advised to transfer the property to one spouse's name for tax purposes.

Wishing ill on Paterno's grandchildren is beyond the pale. Paterno had no reason to think that the school would risk its reputation to protect a pedophile--I still can't believe they did it. It was a ridiculous act by several administrators who deserve to be jailed for their failure to act--but Paterno did not take part in that situation (well, no one has presented any evidence at all that he did).

It actually sounds a lot more likely that the officials paid off the individuals who were likely to complain and thought that the matter was ended. The accusation of a pay-off is really intriguing because (unless the money can be tied to Paterno) it suggests that Paterno was fired in order to hide wrong-doing on the part of the school.

RON, you are an ersatz human being

Janice

You really hurt my feelings, your mother should wash your dirty mouth out with soap to make it clean. How could you say such things about someone you do not know. As a matter of fact I do not want to know you because you sound like an idiot that is a moron.

@Ron

No matter what happens to me in life, I will never wish that someone else's children be molested. As for your offer (final sentence, #7.3) ---- OK, but then all the dogs in your neighborhood are gonna be mad at me.

Billy boy

you are one sick puppy that you would have sex with a dog. Next it will be sheep or your mother, or sister.

No, important reporting.

Exactly. Talk about a cover-up & hiding things. Tom Corbett is the one who should be on trial.

Why??? Because it's money honey...........

And that same investigator is now head of the state police.

stormy they are investigating crime across state lines it is their job and has been since the inception of the FBI in the 1920's. The people of Texas and Florida have rights too you know. Sorry if we are inconviencing you.

Actually, it's Antoine who's licking his chops for sloppy seconds. Yummm Jerry, you'll learn to like it, you scumbag monster.

I second that comment. They haven't said much about the missing prosecutor.

You expect balence from reporters and news operations? They haven't actually been interested in balenced reporting since the reporters of the 60's and 70's retired. Your generation wants sound byte news and thats what you get.

10 million for cancer? and ? Think no other organizations do that? How about 10 million for victims of RAPE? That would be the most fitting after the college overlooked children being raped at their school. What a perfect way to say to the world, we are sorry for what our LEADERS at the school did.

But no, they want to soften it up by trying to make believe the noble cause of childrens cancer is the most important issue? Not even close, the rape of children and cover up of that rape is much more damning and they should be addressing it, fighting it. Helping children and adults of rape, not deflecting it to another cause.

Amen!!! Something fishy about that

Has his body ever been found???

@Ashamed and Bernie,

My family moved to Jacksonville in 1966 from Richmond. I was a 10th grader in high school and had the opportunity to attend the Gator Bowl game where Penn State played Florida State to a tie. Dad was always a Penn State fan and I was rooting for FSU. It was then that I became impressed with the quality of Joe Pa and the program he brought. Don't get me wrong, I'm still an avid FSU fan and have sat thru games in Tallahassee watching the team lose. Imagine being able to walk into the stadium 2 minutes after the kickoff and sit on the 40 yard line for free. We sucked before Bowden came on board.

I hope the Feds uncover the truth behind the original prosecuter that is "missing". I fully believe that Joe Pa is innocent and got screwed. I have the upmost respect for him.

Go Noles.