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Subscribe to RSSNewly released documents seized in the 2011 raid on Osama bin Laden's compound show bin Laden had ordered al-Qaida to assassinate President Barack Obama or General David Petraeus. NBC's Jim Miklaszewski reports.
In letters from his hideout in Pakistan written in the five years before his death, Osama bin Laden fretted about dysfunction among the far-flung affiliate organizations in his terrorist network, according to documents seized during the U.S. military’s raid on his compound that that were released on Thursday.
Seventeen declassified letters seized in last year's raid on bin Laden's compound by U.S. Navy SEALs were posted online Thursday by the U.S. Army's Combating Terrorism Center, accompanying its analysis of their contents titled, "Letters from Abbottabad: Bin Ladin Sidelined?" The letters -- 175 pages in Arabic -- probably represent only a small fraction of materials taken from the compound, the center’s distinguished chair, retired Gen. John Abizaid, said in a note published with the translations.
U.S. intelligence analysts have spent countless hours poring over the vast stash of computerized and paper data seized during the raid that killed bin Laden, as NBC News’ Jim Miklaszewski and Robert Windrem reported earlier this week.
The Combating Terrorism Center at West Point has published the declassified documents that offer a fresh look inside the mind of Osama bin Laden. NBC's Bob Windrem and Roger Cressey discuss.
But the letters released Thursday, which were written between September 2006 and April 2011, add new nuances to the previous reports.
Among other things, they show the al-Qaida founder was troubled by the actions of other Islamist groups that aligned themselves with his terrorist network.
As Associated Press reporter Kimberly Dozier puts it:
The documents show dark days for al-Qaida and its hunkered-down leader after years of attacks by the United States and what bin Laden saw as bumbling within his own organization and its terrorist allies.
The so-called affiliate organizations – including al-Qaida in Iraq, al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula; the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (Student Movement of Pakistan); and the Somalia-based Harakat al-Shabaab al-Mujahideen – were of particular concern to bin Laden.
In the words of the report’s authors:
Rather than a source of strength, bin Ladin was burdened by what he viewed as the incompetence of the “affiliates,” including their lack of political acumen to win public support, their media campaigns and their poorly planned operations which resulted in the unnecessary deaths of thousands of Muslims.
"I plan to release a statement that we are starting a new phase to correct (the mistakes) we made," bin Laden wrote in 2010. "In doing so, we shall reclaim, God willing, the trust of a large segment of those who lost their trust in the jihadis."
Nothing in the papers points directly to al-Qaida sympathizers in Pakistan's government. Bin Laden described "trusted Pakistani brothers" but didn't identify any Pakistani government or military officials who might have been aware of or complicit in his hiding in Abbottabad.
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The letters also indicate that American Adam Gadahn played a much greater role in al-Qaida than has been acknowledged by U.S. authorities, who have often dismissed him as a propagandist and spokesman. In fact, Gadahn appeared to act as an adviser to bin Laden and in one letter urged that al-Qaida disassociate itself from al-Qaida in Iraq.
One letter also outlined Gadahn’s views of U.S. news organizations as part of a discussion of how al-Qaida might go about publicizing the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on the U.S.
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He indicated a particular dislike of Fox News, writing, “Let her die in her anger”; said MSNBC-TV appeared to be “good and neutral a bit,” while complaining about the firing of Keith Olbermann; said CNN appeared to be aligned with the U.S. government but was better in its Arabic reports; and made flattering comments about CBS and ABC.
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he liked Oberman and disliked Fox, coincidence?
Yeah, even he saw they were full of $h-t.
CohabitatMike - Bin Laden endorsing MSNBC? I told you they were the enemy.
Just my opinion, but I don't think Keith Olbermann would be proud of Gadahn's support any more than Fox would be embarrassed by Gadahn's criticism.
"Endorsed by al-Qaida" shouldn't be a valued seal of approval.
Dude Kim Jong Il's favorite films were the Rambo and Friday the 13th franchises.
Who cares? People have different preferences.
Take it from a liberal to side with a terrorist over they're hatred for a non-liberal news organization. How pathetic.
Last time I checked Olbermann was fired by a liberal who lost to Bush Junior who didnt get OBL.
You must be really left of left if you got fired by Gore, creator of the Internet.
give it up for Obama for killing the SOB, in 8 years the GOP didnt have a clue.and no matter how you slice it, thats the lowdown baby!
Where's the proof ? Some letters don't mean @!$%#.
some posts dont as well.
Like the ones that begin with joe . If Bush would have gotten osama you can bet he would have the Seals take pics , knowing full well what skeptics (including me ) the public can be .
"He indicated a particular dislike of Fox News, writing, "Let her die in her anger"; said MSNBC-TV appeared to be "good and neutral a bit," while complaining about the firing of Keith Olbermann; said CNN appeared to be aligned with the U.S. government but was better in its Arabic reports; and made flattering comments about CBS and ABC."
Well, at least al-Qaida appreciates the biased views of some major media outlets, but I guess Fox is not on their 'Friends' list. Surprise, surprise, surprise.
i'm wondering - how were documents FROM him (BL) found in his residence? Round trip postage? Just curious.
Well he clearly had a brain
Dumb imagined that Saudis and Pakis were allies.
Osama was sheltered by Pakis since 2001.
Dumber danced for them and saved them even by wars (Iraqi wars 1991 and 2003).
Pakis got billions as aids as a strategic ally.
Dumbest are still dancing as Saudis direct and want to repeat Iraq in Iran!
Don't worry about oil prices jumping to $200.00
some dude- bush was too busy invading another country that had nothing to do with it based on lies, that wrecked the economy,then he dumped it all on Obama and ran like hell.
@joe donahue So, so true. I don't like the idea of being w/Pakistan, I do believe in keep you friends close but keep your enemies closer.
So add terrorists to the long list of people who have enough sense to dislike FOX news.
"An enemy of my enemy is my friend"
OBL
Andie - they hate the TRUTH! (in that respect they're like liberals)
@ Andrew, Birds of a feather...
EWUSNRET,
The truth? Fox doesn't do truth. Just look at all the trouble Murdoch is in, he's a dirty, cheating, lying, criminal scumbag and he hires people that are just like him.
Murdoch is a different story...Most news outlets, i.e. NBC CBS ABC CNN Liberal,,Fox Conservative So just because one is more conservative they do not tell the truth....Did ABC CBS NBA CNN report on HR347 and the fact that Obama signed it? Not that I know of...by the way do you know what that law contains? Hint>>It violates the 1st Amendment...Felony...
Yes Andrew that makes you just like them. Good to know who our enemies are.
No surprise there scum does like other scum .
You liberals say that like OBL's dislike of Fox news is a good thing. To me it just shows that OBL didn't like hearing the truth just like you. LOL
Couldn't be because FOX is the only channel that doesn't fluff everything? And, I don't believe for a minute there is a written order they found that said assassinate Obama. What a crock!
@stan-3871705 Did you read a copy of this bill or are just quoting from what someone said? I heard that said by 1 and only 1 person, Romney. Not a realiable source. Many, many time i heard things said about a change in matters. The "R" people are very quick to say the first half of a sentence and tell people this has a negative impact on YOU! When i looked into it and read the whole sentence it was a positive thing. The "R" will tell you this knowing that you won't look any further. He hoping you are dumb and lazy enough not to look any further. I have heard this said about many different laws over the last few years and it was always an "R" that made this claim. I found them to be lying out n out. NCIS- Abbys' No. 1 rule, "You don't lie to Abby." This has always been my No. 1 rule.
I forbid any copy cat murderous dogs! So thankful the Seals put a bullet in this POS so no more camel broke back mountain tapes. Fish food and no shrine, ha ha ha............
He didn't get any virgins either!
At least he died unhappy.
But much to quickly!
I wonder if the names of the Paki govt officials that helped hid bin Laden is known to our govt and will be blackmailing those people. I also wonder if they found new names of people who have supported this POS while he was alive.
Nailing him must have scared the crap out of a lot of people. That is why the Paki govt screamed so loud about the raid, and now screaming about the use of drones in their airspace. Hopefully more seal team raids are being planned to remove those people.
Sally. How true is this. There must be a lot of people sitting in Pakistan or other places just waiting for the hammer to come down, it must be clear that the death of OSBL was not the most important, the information gathered was more important.
It has also been discovered that Bin Laden supported the republican party! Al-Qaida and the republican party have common grounds. They both want to destroy America. Republicans in power means that America's military power is diminished. Republicans refuse to fund even the military if that means the rich must be taxed.
I think you need to adjust the special sensors in your tinfoil helmet before Newt Gingrich emerges from your iPod and turns you into a vegetable. Oh, what's that?????.......You already ARE a vegetable?!?!?!?
Nevermind...
Oh really Mark-1751582? I would like to see the proof of that.
I just love how the liberals lie to forward their agenda and when confronted with the FACT that the enemy of the U.S. LIKES their liberal media and hates the conservative media they have to lie and vioce it as if it were the truth. It sort of reminds me of the Nazi propagandists, that if you tell a lie often enough and loud enough people will believe it is the truth.
Dude... seriously. Nixon administration on up to Karl Rove... we know the party that's famous for speaking lies, in lock-step, willing it to become "truth". Even Gingrinch referred to that as being "Swiftboated."
And news flash: just because a POS in Al Qaeda recognizes lying and biases, doesn't make lying and biases a good thing.
mark: How cam Osma like Repulicans and hate FOX news? Thats like voting democrat and being in the Tea Party. Doen't make any sense.
@mark-1751582
OMG! I've heard a lot of BS rhetoric but this definitely takes the cake. Was it intended to be sarcasm?
Fresh off the turnip truck, Mark?
Osama this Osama that...... ridiculous.... dead is dead! Why is the media fueling the fire?
Its not the media its Obama trying to take credit for the actions of The Navy SEALS.
"Arm chair quaterbacking from an office 6000 miles away does not make you a hero. Bragging about yourself for what someone else did makes you and ASS"
Why these papers are released after one year?
In extremist organizations, especially the religious ones, these problems are common.
In case of Islam and these mad people like Osama and co, especially Sunni ones, anything is possible.
Canon ... its about time you give up this tired line of bs. In any event, I think it is much better for someone to take credit for something that happened than something that didn't ... cue picture of Bush on aircraft carrier in front of banner proclaiming "Mission Accomplished".
canon - I couldn't have said it any better!
Mark I've been around for about 66 years 23 of that in the Navy. You sir have your facts wrong. In my life time it appears that the Democrats have done the most damage to the military. We seem to be a prime target when they want more money to piss away on programs for those who want to live off the working man. Please understand I don't trust either party but the Dems do seem to like to pick on the military.
Concur with you Getoveryourself, you are right on! As a Vietnam Vet and retired USAF person, the demorats always try to weaken the military and they would rather spend our taxpayer money on their stupid liberal idiotic programs. Obama is always on the education kick and wants to give the students a break on their loans and even telling them they won't have to pay it off later. Well guess what! You and I and our children will be paying for it, just like the idiotic Obozocare. These far left liberal nuts are tearing this country apart and they remind me of the 60's when they spit on the GI's returing from Nam so they could dodge the military and run to Canada or head to Big Sur to smoke their weed. Now most of these morons like Bill Ayers and the other idiots should have been locked up for being terrorists.
Sounds like you're still having trouble accepting the fact that we got bin laden (and alot of other terrorists), under Obama's watch. Too bad that Bush didn't get them, then he could have taken the credit (and you know he would have too).
The Republicans want austerity for the 99%. They want special treatment for the 1%. I wore a uniform for my country and I am one of the 99%!
mike: it's the other way around. The Libs are out to get taxpayors. You don't really think they'll only tax the rich. thats their foot in the door. They need tax money to buy votes from nontaxpayors and leeches <crowny kapitalits>. Remember 50% Americans do not pay Fed Income Tax. Look at your tax bill citizen. Also you think us 99% can buy $40,000 a plate dinner for Owebama? Are you better off since Owebama took over?
Osama was killed during obama's watch ? Prove it . You can't and you know it. Just because obama said so doesn't mean it happened . Some made up letters also don't mean jack squat .
My portfolio has more than doubled from Jan 2008 to the present.
Rick, related to Mark?
@getoveryourself, I am 65 and retired from the US Army. It may seam like whose is in office controls the purse strings, but it is the senate that does and the president signs off on it. Only as a formality. Funds are shifted around inside the different branches to meet their areas of what they consider to be their priorities. I to served vietnam, took a break in service(father had cancer and wanted to be with him.) Went back and wound up in desert storm and desert shield.
@muaythia, Who are you fooling? You never made it thru boot camp let alone served professionally.
too bad we didn't get to torture him a little before we put a bullet through his dome.
maybe they did torture him a little?
they forced him to listen to Oberman
No doubt in my mind, at the very least, they pissed on his corpse!
Now that is funny - even terrorist hate to watch Fox!
Because they can't get the love from FOX that NBC gives them.
They don't watch fox because they want the truth. Propaganda does not help them
terrorists want the truth? What planet are you on?
@mike in pcb
ROTFLMAO!!! Didn't spend much time thinking that one through did you? Or do you believe all of the things Al-Qaeda puts out in their little vidoes and magazines?
A year after bin laden's death, I am reminded again of how the world is a better place without him in it!
Who really cares what he fretted hes gone forget him, Im not voting for Obama let bin laden go.
Another CEO bitching about the help.
What hurts me more than anything is Obama using Osama for his Political gain.... Any president that was in office would have given the OK to kill Osama even Carter..... But Obama is acting like HE,HE is the only one that would have done this..LOL The Pentagon came to Obama and said this is what we, WE,WE have so do we strike? As you see I said Pentagon had ALL THE INFO SO ONLY OBAMBA had to say was, Wait.... Wait...... Wait...... Guys if you think this needs to be done do it/YES.......
As we see Obama went to Afghanistan to sign an agreement???? An agreement he could have FAXED???????? But NO..... Obama wanted to spend a Million dollars to travel to Afghanistan.... WTF??????? I am tired of all that has happened and myself want BETTER for ALL Americans....
Obama gave the order. OBAMA 4 MORE YEARS!!!!
Bush gave up. Invaded Iraq cause "he tried to kill my daddy". Meanwhile how many of our country's daddys have been killed in a useless war that practically broke the economy
You are a pure SHEEPLE Mike.... You need help.. OH I forgot you are getting help from all the entitlements!!!!!
Mike you and the ones who think like you need to be disposed of like trash for you and your like are what is KILLING our Country
Speaking of Fox - Richard, why don't you take the Fox regurgitation and mosey on back to their site. The fact that you use LOL means you're either 12 years old or have that educational/maturity level.
Arizona-Buckeye as I see it you need to be put out with the TRASH also...
Thanks Richard, you answered my question - you're at the 12 year old maturity level.
I am 12??? I am retired from the Navy so jump on BUBBA.... I know what is right and as I see you do not have a clue.... You need help!!!!!
Just jump on my back, for I did not serve to protect people like you!!!!
richard, remember to grief President Carter got from the GOP when the rescue mission in Iran failed? I have read the history books about that, maybe you should also. And I do remember the Bush/Cheney cabal bragging about the bounty they put on bin Ladens head. And how the threat level always went higher during an upcoming election.
Then the Bush/Cheney cabal disbanded the task force that was looking for bin Laden, and Bush even said he didn't think that much about bin Laden. And your etchy sketchy Mitt thought it cost to much money to nail bin Laden.
So, President Obama has read Karl Rove's book also. Good for him. And he is now using to the GOP what the GOP was doing before. Smart thinking on Obama's part. And I gather you don't like Obama doing to the GOP what the GOP did to the Demo's. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee
And where was your complaints when Bush flew to his so called Ranch in Texas. No complaints were forcoming back then, from you. And if he would have FAXED that agreement, you would be bitching he was acting as a leader should. Give it up slick, your deflections need more work, a lot more work.
All I can say is what have YOU,YOU done for OUR Country???? Have you made things better? Have you stood in line for entitlements??? Or have you stood tall and worked for what you have????
I really get tired of seeing people post here that have NO,NO clue about our Country... FREEDOM, FREEDOM to do what we want... Not what the Gov. tells us to do
Richard - I said you had the maturity level of a 12 year old - I suggest that you take a few reading comprehension classes. As for you serving in the Navy - who gives a sh!t! Congrats, you couldn't get a job in the real world so you jumped on the government's tit. You are a complete and utter disgrace and should not go around pounding your chest that you represent America just because you had a government job.
Sally I see you are a true Obama freak!!!
Well I am an UNITED STATES of AMERICA FREAK.. I want what is best for ALL as I see you do not!!!
Arizona-Buckeye
F*ck you F*ck you and the Obama horse you road in on!!!!!
No richard, you are a freak, that is it. You only want what is good for you and your ilk - ignorant, white, anti gay, anti women, anti education, etc., etc., etc. You are what is wrong with this country so do something useful and educate yourself
I really feel sorry for you for you have know idea who or what I am but you post like you know me????? No wonder we have idiots that post on this sites like you!!!!
Arizona-Buckeye
Arizona-Buckeye
Are you a comedian??? Or do you need for me to call 911 for you for you are so lost... Do you know me??? Do you know my views??? Do you have a Genie in your pocket???
richard - your post say all I need to know about you! Ignorance and stupidity are transparent as well as predictable. You are absolutely a poster child for a white male of lower IQ who needed to be told what to do, without thought, to maintain gainful employment. Now, all you do is sit around, watch the clown show on Fox and vomit it back out on sites like this in an attempt to appear knowledgeable. When faced with facts to the contrary of your argument, you pull out the Navy card and when that fails, you start with the insults. Yawn.
Richard: " FREEDOM, FREEDOM to do what we want... Not what the Gov. tells us to do"
The Republicans are trying to tell women and gays EXACTLY what they can and cannot do in their bedrooms and with their own bodies. So much for your "FREEDOM" cry, eh?
So Richard, the fear sowing and grand standing (WMD's and "keep 'merica safe") of Dubya was acceptable? The political spin of 9/11 that were used in debates and news coverage of 2004 and 2008 (especially FOX News) was acceptable? But predatory lending, corporate and financial malfeasance through credit default swaps, liquidity/derivative shortcomings, bailing out the banks and Wall Street through socialized losses, creating TARP and TBTF, socializing prescription drug coverage for seniors through Medicare Part D, killing off 700,000 jobs/month, subsidizing big oil along with other corporate welfare, performance bonuses paid to"top talent" exec's from taxpayer funded bailouts for running their businesses into the dirt, and tax breaks for the wealthy don't hurt you? But anything that Obama does, even ordering the strike on bin Laden, hurts you? What other anniversaries have been observed? 9/11? Pearl Harbor? D-Day? Oklahoma City? Columbine? Kennedy assassination? Katrina? Challenger? Titanic? The list is long for historical events. But this one hurts you?
The conservative mindset that will only allow you see that "Obama is bad," "Obama is a socialist," "Obama is a Muslim," "Obama wasn't born in America," "Obama killed bin Laden" is what truly is hurting you. Most everyone knows that Obama didn't kill bin Laden but rather our highly skilled, trained, professional heroes of our military did . But no, Conservatives can't see that because it doesn't fit their agenda. How sad.
I see we have some very, very lost souls in this country..... It is all about what you can get from the Gov... Shame on you all
We as people strive for wht is best for us ALL not what is best for a few as Dems and you poor souls try and push on us all..... What a sorry US we have today... Dont work for what you need and want just stand in line for the left will take care of you...... This will be our downfall for sure.... wake up people
richard - what are you getting from the government right now? Benefits and a retirement check! I guess you just put yourself in the lost souls category! Do us all a favor, turn off Fox, open the windows and take a deep breath - after you start educating yourself and thinking on your own, you'll find that reality and facts aren't as scary as you think!
Most of you Dems can not see the forest for the TREES because when a point is made you take it for what is said not what is meant......
arizonabuckeye
I get 0000000000000. I have worked for what I have how about you???? I dont need the Gov, to take care of me..................................................................
Only the dumb and stupid Americans/Dems need the Gov. to take care of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Arizona-Buckeye
You are 1 of the dumbest people I have seen post here.... You are so lost and lame
Where in your life have you seen where someone gets a dime or anything if they dont pay into the system?????????? Here in the US for Dems have to have the Gov, pay for them to live... What a joke
Next you will say that the Gov. must furnish a HOUSE for everyone and food and clothes... What a JOKE
OH my and a CAR and a Bicycle for their kids. What is next????
Free medical care, free dental care, free gas, free food , free, free, free
Nothing is free........................................Someone has to pay??? Who should pay??? EVERYONE and I mean everyone... If you receive then you pay into the system
Arizona-Buckeye
Where did you go FREE LOADER!!!!!!!
Arizona-Buckeye,Sally
you 2 are a waste on our Economy for you 2 stand in line for all you can get...... Free Loaders
Richard, it appears your having a mental meltdown. I hope you'll be able to get some quality help. Fast.
tjohn_missouri
You must be the the front of the line!!!!!!!
Richard,
You are in a battle of complete idiots. Step back, take a breath, and see them for what they are. It's almost like they just try to make real stand up guys like yours, blood boil. Stupid is forever. Can't help these morons.
"....and made flattering comments about CBS and ABC"
Man! Gotta love those ringing endorsements from the most wanted terrorist in history...way to go MSM!
I find it interesting that a year ago these documents were "secret", but now, in an election year when President Obama needs a boost in the polls, it's OK to release the information. I'm a registered independent who voted for President Obama. I will not make that same mistake again.
Obama doesn't need a boost. The republican horror show is enough
US Marine, first, thank you for serving. I find it very interesting that they even opened up those documents to the public, unless it is just useless info to scare some people, not living here in the states. Obama doesn't need a boost in the polls right now, he is ahead of etchy sketchy by several points.
I also am an independent voter, and will vote for Obama, for one main reason. The GOP, no matter what they say, their actions speak for themselves, is how they want to control my reproductive rights. No, I am not lying, look at the bills the house produced, look at the bills the GOP controlled states have passed.
U.S. Marine, Retired
I agree, this is not in the best interest for the US....
Sally you have listened to the Dems to much.... I laugh at people like you for you have no idea of wht is going on
Sally, so the GOP does not want to give you free birth control. I can see why you want Obama. The golden trough may get cut off and you may have to pay for your own.
Sally likes FREE,FREE,Free
Obama feels threatened so he is using Osama to boost his Presence.. What a joke that will flip on him!!!!!!
He's not far enough ahead to feel he has it. This is just a perfect time to toot his horn about the only decent thing he's done in three and a half years.
I agree with U.S. Marine, Retired, I worked in USAF Intel and nothing is declassed after a year. Whats up with that?
Of course the 'useless idiots' will embrace this release of OBL's letters as truthful and factual.
Who believes anything this administration publishes anymore? The squatter in chief has demonstrated enormous ability to lie not only in writing but when speaking.
And his press secretary has adopted the process of lying to the American Public as a routine.
Josh, what makes you think this declassified info isn't truthful? I am not saying it is or isn't, OK? But it is one way to scare some people, who may or may not be living stateside, so to speak, into making a dumb move so they can grab that person or people.
It's call mis-information by the intelligence groups involved. Will it work, or not, who knows? But Obama does not need a boost in the polls, he already is ahead of etchy sketchy.
And gee, what press secretary hasn't lied to the American Public? And routinely lied most of the time? You mad because Obama has read Karl Rove's book? And using it the same why the GOP used in several years ago.
Who believes it? Most of the individuals here claiming to be Dems....As EnfieldScott said, classified documents are not declassified within a year..
Sally you need help for you believe everything you read... Shame
This is rather stupid.
I assume these letters are in Arabic. Any of you read/write Arabic?
Why not post the letters in Arabic also. A translation by the government is pure bias. Furthermore just showing bits and pieces does not account for nothing. You simply can't pick selected paragraphs and sentences without showing the entire contents which lead the that sentence or paragraph.
My opinion and who cares.
Obama had to give the OK. Too many people would have ratted him out if he had said no. Clinton had several chances to get him, and refused.
The liberal CBS, ABC and MSNBC are so socialist leaning that the terrorists love them. They promote the destruction of America. With 15,000,000,000,000 in debt and climbing, soon the interest payment will be greater than our GDP.
I noticed you conveniently left out the fact that Bush, who started two wars to find those responsible for 9/11 (hint: OBL) stopped looking for him! But, don't let facts get in the way of your viewpoint.
I noticed that most leave out the fact that Clinton had his chances and still lay the blame on Bush...But I forgot, Bush is to blame for everything before he was Pres, during the time he was Pres, and will be for the next 100 years....But I do have to admit the last couple of times Obama blamed some one it was when he said 'construction, state and local governments are a drag on the economy' but in the end I am sure Obama will find a way to blame that on Bush also
Arizona, bin ladden started the war on 911, or did you forget. Oh, and you know for a fact that Bush stopped looking for OBL. You must have some kind of insider information? You say you have facts, lets see them.
Idahoan - it's called Google! You can use it to find the interview with Dubya where he states, in his own words, that he doesn't know where OBL is, and isn't looking for him, nor does he lose sleep over it. Bush disgustingly started the war in Iraq to get Hussein for his daddy and it had NOTHING to do with 9/11 - that was just a reason to justify invading a country that had nothing to do with planning, funding, or executing 9/11.
@stan - I do not ignore the fact that Clinton had the opportunity to attempt getting OBL. That was already in the text of Idahoan's original post. All I said was that he left out Bush giving up on trying to find him. You read all of the other partisan BS into my statement on your own! Sorry, but there are a great number of things that Bush did cause by his reckless policies and although I don't like the blame game, there are facts that cannot be ignored and pushed on the next guy!
Idahoan: "With 15,000,000,000,000 in debt and climbing, soon the interest payment will be greater than our GDP."
I find it amusing that when the Republican President Bush was asked about our deficit, he answered (and I quote): "Deficits don't matter."
Apparently they only matter under our new Democratic President Obama. Hilarious!
Arizona-Buckeye
There you go, believe everything you read... What an IDIOT!!!!!!!!!
Didn't I read somewhere that Obamas has already spent more than all the other presidents in the history of the US combined? That's 43 president's combined. I don't know if it's true but I googled it and there is all kinds of web sites that says this. One even said in his first 100 days he did this.
I read what you are saying WHAT4099780, I read that by 2017 the interest would be more than our GDP.
Arizona,
Grow up, or pull your head out, or something. Your posts are putrid!
Osama loved Rachel Maddow... and Rachel Maddow loved Osama...
MSNBC's New Slogan:
MSNBC, LOVED BY TERRORISTS EVERYWHERE!!!
Also, they bash Romney's wife for her expensive wardrobe, but Obama's wife's wardrobe is just as expensive...
I love the picture of UBL to start the video at the top of this story...
Sing it with me now - "I wanna kiss you all over....and over again. I wanna kiss you all over.....til the night closes in....til the night closes in."
I don't put a lot of stock in polls; however, liberal pollsters are polling registered voters, and conservative pollsters are polling likely voters. The difference in the polls is obvious. More importantly, the President, who I believe to be a very smart man, is trailing or even in all the polls I have read. It's the economy - period. Additionally, I don't believe for one minute that the Republicans can or will do much better than the current administration. We can't keep spending money we don't have. Forty four cents of every federal tax dollar spent is borrowed. Sooner or later, this house of cards is going to fall. Sooner or later, we will have to pay and pay big time, all of us. President Obama will keep spending.
Enough Bin Laden. We don't care anymore.
Hmmm, sounds like Bin Laden wasn't too different than George Bush/Cheney/Obama
Bin Laden
1) Felt it was necessary to kill foreign civilians and foreign heads of state in order to achieve political goals
2) Didn't want to kill innocent Muslims
George Bush/Cheney/Obama
1) Felt it was necessary to kill foreign civilians and foreign heads of state in order to achieve political goals
2) Didn't want to kill innocent Americans
Only difference? Al Qaeda killed ~3000 on 9/11 with no military equipment spending almost no money while the US government killed 100,000+ with the entire US military might while spending trillions
Whoa... 100,000 on Bush??????? I dont think so.. You are a fool bud...... Post truths not BS