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Subscribe to RSSAs the United Nations and Iran warn that the newly discovered Flame computer virus may be the most potent weapon of its kind, U.S. computer security experts tell NBC News that the virus bears the hallmarks of a U.S. cyber espionage operation, specifically that of the super-secret National Security Agency.
The Flame virus, which is intended to gather intelligence -- not destroy equipment or data, as was the case with the notorious Stuxnet virus -- is too sophisticated to be the work of another country, said one U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity. “It was U.S.,” said the official, who acknowledged having no first-hand knowledge of how the virus operates or was introduced into the Iranian computers.
The U.S. was also believed to have a hand in the creation and insertion of the Stuxnet virus, which targeted Iran’s uranium-enriching centrifuges.
The newly discovered Flame virus essentially “colonizes” the targeted computers, giving hackers control over critical data stored on them, according to cybersecurity experts who spoke with NBC News.
U.S. intelligence officials declined to discuss the virus. “We have no comment,” said one. Israeli officials, suspected in previous attacks, denied involvement.
The virus was first discovered and announced over the weekend by a Russian cybersecurity organization after reports of massive data losses in Iranian government computers. Kaspersky Lab told Reuters it found the Flame infection after the International Telecommunications Union asked it to investigate. By some accounts, the virus has been operating in the wild for as long as five years.
"This is the most serious (cyber) warning we have ever put out," Marco Obiso, cybersecurity coordinator for the U.N.'s Geneva-based ITU, told Reuters on Tuesday, referring to a bulletin about the virus expected to be issued in the next few days.
The confidential warning will tell member nations that the Flame virus is a dangerous espionage tool that could potentially be used to attack critical infrastructure, Obiso said.
Other experts said the virus appears to be a different type of invader than Stuxnet.
"From reading press reports, this appears to be penetrating networks to surveil, as opposed to destroy, as was the case with Stuxnet,” said Michael Leiter, former director of the National Counter Terrorism Center and now an NBC News analyst. “Such computer network operations are core components of what our and other intelligence services do day in and day out.
“Our intelligence services know that any weakness in an information system can mean the entire system is vulnerable. This makes defense very, very hard. Network defenses must work reliably and in real time across the entire network to defend against persistent intruders."
Iran’s cybersecurity officials seem to agree. The New York Times reported Iran’s Computer Emergency Response Team Coordination Center issued a warning Tuesday, saying, “This malware is a platform which is capable of receiving and installing various modules for different goals.”
If this is indeed a U.S. cyberwarfare operation, said computer security expert Roger Cressey, the target is likely to be Iran’s nuclear program and its decision-making apparatus.
"Whoever has developed this is engaged in very sophisticated intelligence gathering on computer networks throughout the region. Clearly, Iran is a top priority for this program," said Cressey, former chief of staff of the President’s Critical Infrastructure Protection Board under George W. Bush and now an NBC News analyst.
Two years ago, the U.S. and Israel were suspected of inserting the Stuxnet virus into the Iranian centrifuge center at Natanz. When the control software was corrupted, the motors that control the uranium centrifuge operations didn’t operate correctly, wobbling instead of spinning the way they’re supposed to, U.S. officials say.
Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said that the work of Kaspersky Labs helped Iran uncover the infection and remove it from the centrifuge control program. Cybersecurity officials have told NBC News that the infection, while heavily publicized, was not as effective in disrupting Iran’s nuclear program as has been portrayed in some media accounts.
But Stuxnet is an example, said one U.S. official, of how those aiming to slow the Iranian nuclear program, which the U.S. says is aimed at producing nuclear weaponry, can have an effect similar to that of economic sanctions. The Iran program keeps making progress, he said, but never quite gets there.
Other U.S. officials said that the viruses not only affect the targeted program; they also make Iranian officials “paranoid.” Additionally, countering the attacks diverts valuable assets and resources from the core mission, they said.
While the Flame virus appears to be aimed more at gathering intelligence on the Iranian program, it, too, aims to make the Iranians paranoid, the officials said. It does so by making them wonder about security and by raising questions about whether the enemy knows the intricacies of Iranian decision making, not just on the nuclear program but on a host of other issues important to the U.S. and the West, they said.
Robert Windrem is a senior investigative producer for NBC News; Chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel contributed to this report.
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I say bravo !Legitimate option rather than going to war with a country with no obligations to anyone else around whatsoever.
What I can't fathom is WHY is this sensitive bit being published.
Because the Russians found it. Did you read the article?
And we will deny it just as China's government denies cyber attacks for years.
This is how the China plays in wars, why go fight something when you can steal everything for free. Most of theirs technology are stolen from years of hacking.
ANOTHER leak from an un-named, anonymous, (senior) U.S. official.
Don't these "security experts" get it ??? LOOSE LIPS SINKS SHIPS.
Wait a dad gum minute.....wasn't this administration H*** bent on trying to find out WHO released the information about the Doctor in Iran who was just sent to prison for treason by giving data on Bin Laden ?
Oh yeah? Just what technology is that? I don't see so much at Walmart that's all that hard to manufacture. The Chinese are doing well because the are not fat and lazy like countries that have been on top for too long. Mind you they may get that way eventually but as it stands it their turn now.
I hope it was MADE here! Bring back MADE IN U.S.A.
Swan37 have you not been reading the news for the past couple of decades? China's been at this a long time and not just in the US.
"too sophisticated to be the work of another country"
Whoever said those words should not be listed as a 'reliable' source. Furthermore, if they are an "official" of the U.S. government, then perhaps they should be invited to seek employment elsewhere (outside the government) and free up wasted tax payer dollars to be dedicated to hiring someone who knows how to use their brain.
This kind of crap reminds me of all the talk about how, "hurr duur the U.S. citizens just need to retrain and go after much more hightech high-skilled jobs to offset all the outsourcing to China," as if American's were genetically more intelligent than Chinese. I've worked in semiconductor manufacturing cleanrooms (space suit and all) as well as around many other so-called HIGH-SKILL manufacturing jobs in the U.S. and guess what, we ain't got crap on the Chinese. Sorry. Just look at Foxconn's operations over there. Herp derp.
South Korea's software and programming talent alone could 1-up the flame virus, and they're barely a glint in the shadow of some of the things to come out of Japan/China/Russia/Europe in one form or fashion in recent years (when did glorified trojan spyware become the pinnacle of computer technology?).
Any derp making an educated guess would name the U.S. intelligence agency as the primary suspect in deploying this virus, and have already done so. Saying that the "sophistication" of the virus is what tells them exactly where it came from just shows their(official source) ignorance and cluelessness. Come back and talk to me about virus "sophistication" after 17-22 year old American and European boys stop being able to spam the internet with info hacked from U.S. federal intelligence databases. Speak to me about how "this is too sophisticated to be work from another country" after Chinese hackers are blocked from gangbanging U.S. government sites. #speaklessfromyourbum
CuongDNguyen:
Steal? W J Clinton and his merry staff gave technology to the Chinese. Think missiles...
I love how this expert who is making claims that the Flame virus is a US operation has never seen the virus and does not know how it works. So what exactly is he basing his in depth analysis on?!?! He is just guesing and pulling it out of his ass to try and make himself sound important. This guy has absolutely no evidence what-so-ever that the virus originated with the NSA. All he is doing is guessing that it did because Iran was the target. The virus could just as easily been developed in China which has a long history of hacking to try and gain information.
In adddition, the threat posed by this Flame virus is being greatly overblown. Kaspersky has a vested interest in making this sound like the mother of all viruses because it will help them sell their services. The virus was designed to collect data but not do any harm to the systems. This makes it relatively mild compared to other viruses which are designed to do serious damage to computer systems, corrupting data and operating systems in order to cripple computers. The UN is basically taking Kaspersky word for the seriousness of the threat, so I put little stock in the UN/ITU warning. This virus was obviously developed to specifically target the Iranians and other government data centers. There has been no indication of this virus going into the wild and infecting personal computers so it is not a threat to the internet in general or anyone's home computer. Targeted viruses like this may be powerful, but they are hardly a general threat.
U.S. computer security experts tell NBC News that the virus bears the hallmarks of a U.S. cyber espionage operation, specifically that of the super-secret National Security Agency.
The NSA has been popping up far too much lately... The NSA is probably collecting all sorts of intel and sending it to their top secret facility in Utah. The government can monitor an insane amount of electronic communications now.
Everyone and their mother has been at this for a long time. I'm a programmer myself. I once figured out how to log into other peoples' Unix accounts at my work at a LARGE semiconductor company. Security was none too happy when I pointed it out to them. However it's crazy to somehow think that all this has been solely responsible for China becoming the economic powerhouse it is. In the scheme of things it's tiny.
Swan37 "it's crazy to somehow think that all this has been solely responsible for China becoming the economic powerhouse it is." I can agree with that.
AKRandy wrote:
That's kind of funny, since 99.999979999% of Americans would have no idea how to MAKE this.
I doubt seriously that any other country was suspected besides the U.S. and Israel. Those are the countries with the biggest motive to spy on Iran.
Perhaps the USSR or China are also capable. But do they have the same motivation?
We've entered the [too] exciting world of computer warfare, and I would be very surprised if Iran is not trying with all its abilities to strike some part of our computer infrastructure, if they can do it semi-anonymously.
I agree! The media will publish anything to make a profit!
Dr. Cat-
We gonna learnt it :P
NSA bought the virus from Facebook.
If media outlets know about the Flame Virus you can bet theres one or two being utilized that are more sophisticated that know one knows about yet
Speaking of "being paranoid", the article failed to mentioned the fact that several Iranium scientists have been gunned down by professional hitmen on motorcycles in front of their houses or while stuck in traffic.
That might be worth mentioning, ya think?
You hit the nail on the head JS in SD, most of the dickwads on the UN panels can't even figure how to save a picture from text on the phone or set their microwave clock but they will take Kaspersky's word for it. I would almost bet that most computers in the US are infected with some sort of key stroke mapping. If were not infected it is because the NSA or Dept of HS montitor all the traffic. Also who is this "US offical" who says it is or may be ours when he has not even seen or knows of it. Gee I wonder if the "US offical" works for Kaspersky and is just trying to drum up some sales. Boy I tell you the media these days suck, all they are good for is copy and paste and print what the government tells them to
Swan: Get serious, to think that China is where it is due to hard work is ridiculous (yes they have people that work hard that isn't the point, they also have child slave labor). That country was about as ass backwards as any third world country when their boom began. They have resources yes but most of all they copy anything and everything that any other country has that is successful and punish nobody on copyright infringements. They have prospered through intellectual theft of property, ideas, patents and design. If you think our Nation is too stupid or lazy to know what is going on inside every one of those countries you are sorrily mistaken. The bigger question is what will POTUS do about it.
I just think it's funny, to talk about a "Super Secret NSA" program. Obviously it's not THAT secret - sounds like something a child would say.
The answer is simple. Turn it over and see if "Made in the USA" is stamped on it. LOL
Thanks Kaspersky! (you f*ckers...)
Anyone who believes it would take the NSA to make such a virus has never met a real Hacker. Any Hacker worth his or her salt could easily make such a virus, and the fact that it was discovered by Russia means it wasn't all that hard to detect. Sounds more like someone wanted it to be discovered as a warning than to use it to get intelligence. Any intelligence it did get before it was discovered was mere icing on the cake. By using a virus that was so easily found means it will send chills down Iranian Security's backbones to think about much more sophisticated viruses not so easily detected, and how they can carry payloads designed to take down whole systems. Why do the damage when the threat is enough? No one gets hurt, no war occurs, and it keeps one's enemy (the regime, not the people of Iran) wary of doing something that could really make the Hacker angry, be it the NSA or a Hacker group or even a lone Hacker. Far, far better than Israel bombing Iran and starting WWIII!
@Ido - it was a Pakistani Doctor, not an Iranian one.
^---- says someone whose closest encounter to a virus was probably a false positive using Norton, lol.
don't hurt that arm patting yourself on the back
First...I don't care if the entire Iran networks go down. I don't care if every bit of data Iran has is stolen.
Second...prove it was the US that did it.
Third...Most anyone in the world with a little bit of training can build a virus. How good you are will depend on far far you get in or how much data can be retrived or deleted.
The_X_Box_360,
"Speak to me about how "this is too sophisticated to be work from another country" after Chinese hackers are blocked from gangbanging U.S. government sites."
I agree. And don't forget about India, either. The Jawaharlal Nehru Technological University in India is supposed to be on a par with M.I.T. when it comes to computer science. I think half our computer experts in this country are of Indian ethnic origin. And India, being in that neck of the woods, surely must have an interest in Iran's nuclear capability.
If the inventor is in fact American or in this country , I hope we find the individual and give them a job to keep messing with the nuclear programs of rogue countries like Iran and North Korea. Hope they also tell them job well done! Give them a high annual salary of at least 500 K+ to start, top floor penthouse, and a free Ferrari to drive.
Seems we oughtta infect the Kremlin computers and check on how Comrade Putin is doin' - twenty-four/seven. He needs watching, that's for sure.
A major understatement. Putin hates freedom and loves thuggery, and keeping him under watch would only be a taste of his own plutonium-laced medicine.
The US is more worried about the Kremlins "ties" to Europe from being the largest provider of natural gas. In ten years,they will have the capabilities to just shut off the gas flow in the middle of winter in Europe with dire consequences if the EU refuses to fall in line with Russian polices.Geopolitics is fascinating! Much more interesting than Iran, who will have a bomb in 2-4 years.What are they going to do with it? The Jews are not going to be sent to anymore gas chambers.They will anililate the entire country of Iran in a heart beat.Why not? Someone attacked the US,I would expect the same reaction.The big thing is changing winds in Europe concerning the Jews.A lot of new anti semetism is starting to sprout it's ugy head.Should Europe Union try to do something stupid towards Isreal,I can see the Isrealis doing the same thing to a number of eU capitals.The Jews still blame EU countries for the treatment they received in WW2.Rightfully so,I believe!
You think we didn't do it? Big countries have played cyber warfare for a while now. We hack them, they hack us. When I work at network assistance at my old university, most of the attacks are traced back to China.
on the other hand, we are beginning to develop a massive glut in NG supplies by drilling for more than we can even store, much less use. (at least until we start mass producing NG powered cars and the infrastructure to support them). I already read an article that said we will probably max out our storage capability in the US this summer
LNG is the up and coming thing in energy.
game kid:
I laughing at your post. I suggest you stop watching TV, go visit the Russian Federation, and you will realize the average Russian has more freedom than you do.
If this was made in America, it's one of the few products that was...
From one year ago, May 30, 2011, WSJ:
"The Pentagon has concluded that computer sabotage coming from another country can constitute an act of war, a finding that for the first time opens the door for the U.S. to respond using traditional military force."
Does anyone else see the hypocrisy or is it my left-leaning bias again?
I wouldn't call it hypocrisy Sticker. If you look back to the Cold War, there are rumored to have been actual combat between U.S. and Soviet submarines. While I'm not sure if this actually was the case, it does make sense. The point is that if these accounts were true they would constitute real acts of war during a Cold War and no further military action occurred because of it.
I look at this article in much the same way, cyber attacks are the black-ops of the 21st century. China and Russia do it to us and we do not retaliate militarily, so why wouldn't we do the same to Iran, North Korea, or anyone else. I also assume if a cyber attack on us or by us that threatened the conventional military forces of our adversaries or resulted in a certain amount of human or financial toll, that might initiate a military response.
Just my opinion though.
Biased, as usual! All you leftys think of is the day America loses it standing in the world arena as the most powerful entity the earth has ever know.Remember, when they come,they will come for you first! Is that really what you want?
Well, like China denies theirs attack, we can deny ours as well. Countries have been play with cyber warfare for years.
it is already fairly well known that we (the US) supplied doctored control software to soviet spies that were stealing control software for running oil and gas prodution facilities. the code had a timebomb that set off a massive explosion in a soviet natural gas production facility that completely destroyed it
http://pipelineandgasjournal.com/hacking-industrial-scada-network
this was in 1982
I say, "YAY for the US of A!" ! Politically incorrect? You bet your sweet ass.
Just another spy verse spy. How many of you grew up during the cold war? It's the same as back than just now it includes computers.
mas098 wrote:
So scary. You seem to have what it takes to be a religious leader of some sort, or a reporter on FOX.
Yes, and I'm a righty. I figure I can weasel my way out though, by holding the statement relative to the bellicosivinositivness of George DA Bush. He would have somebody bomb his mother because it was a Wednesday.
nah, that was Bush's Brain (Cheney). and the actual reason that the bombing would take place would be for profit
Only four countries had the technical know-how to develop the Flame virus: "Israel, the U.S., China and Russia."Since the virus was obviously intended for Iran, we can eliminate its friends China and Russia.This leaves only Israel and us.Having thoroughly demonized Iran, anything we do to it has become fair game.But there is nothing fair or right about taking another country's data. Certainly we would not want China or Russia taking our data and spreading it to 80 separate servers.As a leader of the world community aspiring for governance through universal fairness, we can no longer afford to follow the beaten path of expediency chosen by Israel. Doing so will not only deprive us of our moral authority, but will also squander our unique opportunity to fashion a more just and fair world.
go smoke some more
The only flaw in your reasoning is that the virus has infected computers in Israel, a U.S. friend and that would eliminate us as a source.
That is assuming we have nothing to gain from infecting Israel. There is little reasoning to suggest that China or Russia cares for or is likely to benefit from infecting Iran. George has a pretty good guess based on the idea that ONLY these 4 governments could create this virus. However, this reasoning makes the situation a bit too convenient and ignores the capabilities of other countries or organizations.
"...a just and fair world". Given the four countries you cited, I don't believe any of them want a just and fair world. Look at each of these country's track record. All four are vying for biggest bully on the block, economically and politically. I'm talking about the political and economic leaders of all four, not the people of these countries.
And what do we get if we maintain a "high moral authority"?Nothing.The world is an evil place and wishing every place was like America or thinking that every place IS like America wont do anything but get you a bullet in the head from those in the world who have no morals!You lefties are always worried about Americas' moral authority because you have never been anywhere and know abosolutely nothing about other counries ,only what you learn from slanted reports in the media!This is the most moral country in the world and will remain that way until poeple like you destroy it! We should stand by Isreal side,they are the most important ally in the middle east.Not only that,there was a recent oil discovery in Isreal,on land and off shore, that will make Isreal a major player in the petroleum world in 10-20 years.A lot bigger than Brazil and Venezuela,Mexico and everyone save for Saudi Arabia and Russia! Oil production will start to fall in 20-30 years! You had better hope we secure new sources in the interim
You left out Japan,India ,Germany,the UK,Iran.There are a lot of countries out there with the capacity to ruin a virus or viruses like these two!
really? you think they can be written off so easily?
ahh, so naive...
you can probably add india to the list too
Yeah right, tell it to Jonathan Pollard.
Call me crazy but I don't believe for a second that there are any loyalties between ANY countries. Hell, how many friends, on a personal basis, does anyone have? Damn few..and you gotta keep your eye on them. People say that I'm paranoid but that's only because they're out to get me.
The fact is that a man who wants to act virtuously in every way necessarily comes to grief among so many who are not virtuous. N. Machiavelli
Michael Just because your paranoid does not mean people aren't out to get you.
@maso98 "Do to others as you would have those do onto you" oh wait that is New Testament...which a Jew as yourself does not believe in.
How about "You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against your kinsfolk. Love your neighbor as yourself: I am the LORD." or "The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as one of your citizens; you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I the LORD am your God." How do most of the Jewish people treat the Palestinians?
Why are you still holding a grudge against many countries in the EU? Why did we not let Hitler finish off some more of you? Talk about ungrateful, who started all these problems for themselves in the first place? Who has caused the economic crisis in the U.S. via banking? Where were the Jewish people at when the Muslims built the dome of the rock? Why did the Jewish people not care about "Israel" for over 1000 years? If not for the EU and the U.S. Muslims would have taken Israel back long ago.
By your take, every country should be against every other country. We should just have another world war and see who the biggest baddest country in the world is, it is funny considering how much chit many of you talk, and how far down the list Israel actually is. Do you think you could even beat one of those small EU countries you hate so much bc they do not kiss your "chosen" butt?
How many times do "banks" have to fail before people learn that you cannot get something from nothing. Playing games with numbers is not hard, ensuring yourself a mathematical advantage is not hard either. Why does this give you the right to be judge, jury, and executioner? Just because you won an unfair game?
I would bet $ that in came from Israel. I would not put it past them to spy on their own people, they are that paranoid (as you should know Mossad 98 :P).
Why don't you just admit you're anti-semetic?
A typical rant from someone who is!!!
Rick,
why is it when ever someone points out the corruption of Jews, they become anti Semitic? Are the Jews so special that they are beyond criticism?
There are two types of racism. One is hate for someone because of their Race and the other is special treatment of people because of their race.
This "Europeans / Germans are always guilty" is such BS. Look at the History of the Jews and they were murdering backstabbers in their past. Are they to remain always guilty because of what their ancestors did?
Really...anti-semetic...what a narrow racist mind you have.
Most Palestinians, Jordanians, Syrians, and Lebanese are Semitic people, long rooted in the Middle East. Most of the Jews in Palestine are not. They are Ashkinazi, Eastern European invaders, a different racial typing altogether than the ancient Israelites or their Arabic cousins. Anti-Semites are those who side with the Ashkinazi against the Semitic people of Palestine.
Honestly, who else would it be...
I'd bet on the Uk.They never got over being thrown out of Iran after the Shah was dismissed and the communist took over! That's right,the communist working with trade unions took over from the Shah.The Muslums detest communist because of their dislike of religion.The next election,the Ayatolah cronies took command after the elections and the communist all of a sudden, disappeared! I wonder where they went!
Iran is a republic. Just like all the crazy republics of that area. They just have a despot style of a republic. They are not communist. Any form of government can be bad if they are led by a group or a single mad men.
You can't read! I didn't say this regime was communist! I said the regime that took over from the Shah was communist ! You can read,right? Maybe that would be asking to much, after all it was a big whopping 4 sentences long! Try conquering reading ! Veni!
It was Outsourced and Made in China.
The idea that this is somehow unusual is funny.
We have been secretly surveilling our adversaries in one way or another for hundreds of years.
So what if we made some bugs that can get inside their boxes? They do the same things themselves, or at least try.
Maybe Iran would like a nuclear blast over Teheran instead?
Who do you mean by "we"?
"Gentlemen don't read other gentlemen's mail" --Secretary of State Henry Stimson.
That was the US government's position up until WWII.
flylowguy,
"So what if we made some bugs that can get inside their boxes?"
And this is one big, ugly bug! I heard on the PBS News Hour last night that this Flame virus is unusually large for a virus. It is 20 or 30 megabytes in size. Most viruses are only a couple of kilobytes at most in size. So 20 or 30 megabytes is huge. It also is designed to accept plug-ins to enable it to be customized while it is in place. It's really more like an application than your typical virus. How they actually manage to get something that big onto anyone's computer without that person being aware of it is beyond me!
Welcome to 1984 ..... just a little late that's all.
Ouch, people think the U.S. made this and was using it in the Middle East. They must have a better one rate now and your thinking you stopped it but the US has got to have a better one. Either way people will now make there viruses better then this one and then get caught.
Wonder who owns stock in Kaspersky?
The Chinese as well as others have attacked our network for years!
No big deal.
You are witnessing a New World Order taking affect. This has been planned and plotted out longer then most of us was even born. We are going to be controlled to the point of no freedoms. Even high security intelligence agencies realize this. If this is not true, by all means look around the proof is in the pudding. Many changes have gone over time. You are all in a prison.
Unplug your cap ,put some ice on your head and go lay down.I think you have an overheated brain!
Can we have conjugal visits while we are in your prison?
Hey John, 7 Eleven called, said you are late for your shift.
Not to worry Jhon, after the mushroom clouds settle we'll realize that the EMPs took out all electronics, and we'll be back to paper communication and snail mail, so people: don't shut down the USPS.
Thats what the Fed, IMF, and World Bank were designed to do. The same families have been controlling the world economy for generations.
www.thrivemovement.com
My grampa used to say: "What goes around comes around". Hope this virus does not come to bite us Americans in our collective behinds in one way, shape, or form -- whether schools, DoD, NASA, transportation, utilities, WallStreet (wait, let it infect WS), etc.
Bob ur funny, hone ur skills before makin posts.
Good thought ,Bobbie J! Let the market go into free fall for a few days or weeks because of a virus.You and people like you will be living in the streets because your parents will lose their home and you,your basement retreat.Be careful for what you wish!
This coming from someone who misspells 'your' and 'making'
I say Huzzah!! to the cyber-geeks who finally took something REALLY evil and employed it against the Satanic sodomite Ahmadinejad.It's about time we get to play ball with HIS rules!!!!
OR... maybe it's a plant by an ally of Iran to frame the U.S. and fuel flames between the U.S. and Iran. Hence them naming it "Flame".
That's the name of the hacker! Lucian"flamer" whitney,the third!His parents saw his predilections at birth!
wow i am shocked! are u sure that that came from the usa, DUH
I'm buying Kaspersky Anti Virus right now....
Give a capitalist a profit and he will sell me the rope I hang him with - sound familiar? Well if the Iranians nuke some million people, then I hope the profit Kaspersky made was worth it.
Way ta go Hakerz!!!!!!
Obama is probably playing with Ahmadinejads World of Warcraft account. " I FINALLY got that bastards Sword of a thousand truths" MUHAHAHAAH
This is a joint extended social effort.
This is really not a bad idea in the grand scheme. Good intelligence helps make rational decisions and actually avoids unnecessary wars and engagements. Had the US not provided Israel with information and assurances regarding the true state of Iranian nuclear capabilities, then Israel likely would have struck Iran 3 years ago.
I hope it was made here. We make good stuff.
Our aerospace is second to none. My 2012 American built car has been flawless and gets up to 48.5 MPG without fancy/costly batteries/motors.
America...yes we CAN !
The question is will it still be flawless in 2017?
Joe, your piece of @!$%# wont be flawless in 2 years!
Drop your pants...can`t hear you.
NASA has been shut down. Your American car was made in Mexico
Envy makes people mean.
Congrats on the new car Joe.
Probably was us. That being said the U.S. official who claimed it was too sophisticated to have been created by another country is naive or ignorant. Many countries employ their best and brightest as there's few other options to do this kind of work while we hire those that will work for government pay.
Does any one else see this virus being copied and used to steal money from people/business bank account by rogue & Iran hackers now that everyone knows about it. Looks like your online providers will have to step up their security measures.
Hadn't thought of that, as I was reading the article, but you, definitely, make a good point. Computers are a great invention, and have myriad uses, but they are very susceptible to spying.
good thing it wasnt the other way around hard to say what would happen
Well, I wouldn't be surprised, if the Chinese have an advanced and sophisticated spying system installed in all the computers, that they make, which are most of the ones Americans use.