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Subscribe to RSSThe White House confirmed the death of deputy al-Qaida leader Abu Yahya al-Libi in Pakistan, believed to rank second in the organization. NBC's Brian Williams reports.
With the death in Pakistan of al-Qaida No. 2 Abu Yahya al-Libi in a Predator attack early Monday, the terrorist group’s highest councils once again face the daunting task of filling both a leadership void and selecting a next-generation jihadist capable of succeeding current leader Ayman al-Zawahiri.
But despite the obvious dangers that go with a prominent al-Qaida post, counterterrorism experts inside and outside the U.S. government have identified at least five potential next-generation leaders -- three of them former U.S. residents and one an American citizen.
“It would be a mistake for anyone to conclude there is no one on the bench,” said one U.S. official familiar with counterterrorism strategy, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “It’s a thinning bench, but there are still bad guys, with bad aspirations in al-Qaida’s core group in Pakistan. However, these individuals are not as capable and don’t have the profile or following in the wider extremist movement that Abu Yahya or his predecessor, Abu Atiyah, had.”
Deputy al-Qaida leader killed in Pakistan, White House confirms
But Michael Leiter, former director of the National Counter Terrorism Center and an NBC News analyst, said the candidates to move up into al-Qaida’s senior ranks in the wake of al-Libi’s death all lack his seasoning.
“The real answer is NONE of them are serious by comparison with Abu Yahya across a very wide range of skills and respect,” he said.
Indeed, the U.S. has killed four of the five al-Qaida operatives identified as possible successors to Osama bin Laden at the time of his death on May 1, 2011. The only one who remains alive is Zawahiri, al-Qaida’s longtime No. 2 who assumed command shortly after bin Laden was killed by U.S. Navy SEALs in Abbottabad, Pakistan..
The next generation of al-Qaida leaders, say counterterrorism officials, is an eclectic mix of fighters, propagandists, clerics and administrators.
Those identified as potential next-generation successors are:
FBI via AP file
FBI handout photo of Adnan Gulshair el Shukrijumah.
-- Adnan Gulshair el Shukrijumah. The 36-year-old Saudi is known as “Jaffar the Pilot” because he has a pilot’s license. Reportedly the director of operations for al-Qaida. Shukrijumah spent his teenage years in Brooklyn, N.Y., and Broward County, Fla., where he earned a degree in computer science. He is reported to have had roles in the 2009 plot to bomb the New York City subway and was put on the FBI’s “Most Wanted” list a year later. He has been sought by the U.S. since 2003.
-- Jaber A. El-Baneh. A 45-year-old Yemeni known as Jubair, el-Baneh emigrated to New York where he settled for a time in Buffalo. He was viewed as the mastermind of the Lackawanna Six plot in 2003, having financed and recruited other members. After escaping to Yemen, he was jailed there but sprung in a jailbreak. A senior Obama administration official said last month that el-Baneh has risen to a leadership position in the Yemen-based Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). “I do see, more and more, el-Baneh being a real concern,” said the official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity. “He has longtime connections, including to Egyptian extremist elements. And he does seem to be more engaged in trying to support attacks.”
But Leiter, the former director of the National Counter Terrorism Center, said that whoever succeeds al-Libi will have to be a member of al-Qaida central, not one of its affiliate terror groups, meaning el-Baneh would not be considered.
AP file
California-born al-Qaida member Adam Gadahn lashes out at the U.S. and its allies in an image taken from a propaganda video posted on Jan. 6, 2008.
-- Adam Gadahn. A 33-year-old American known as Azzam al Amriki, or “Azzam the American,” Gadahn, formerly regarded as an al-Qaida propagandist, is now viewed as a strategist. Materials found in bin Laden’s Abbottabad compound included correspondence between the al-Qaida leader and the American jihadi. “Bin Laden took his mail,” the U.S. official said of Gadahn. “He’s not just a propagandist --more a strategist-- clearly someone who is not a crazy person. There are a number of people who were there on 9-11. That clearly gives him some standing.” Gadahn has been charged in California with treason, a capital crime, and giving material aid to terrorism.
-- Sheikh Khalid Abdur Rahman al-Hussainan. A 45-year-old Kuwaiti, known as Abu Zaid al-Kuwaiti, al-Hussainan is one of al-Qaida’s newest faces. He’s a charismatic cleric and teacher who’s responsible for “the religious training and the salvation of the soldiers of the al-Qaida network,” according to an al-Qaida publication. Educated at Saudi-Arabian universities, he worked for a time as a scholar at Kuwait´s Ministry for Religious Affairs. He’s considered less doctrinaire than the older generation trainers. In an interview with an al-Qaida publication, he said he would “converse with them (his students) in an exciting way. We would make them laugh and kid around with them.”
Evan Kohlmann, an NBC News counterterrorism analyst, notes, “Nobody talks about him, but he appears as a featured speaker on as-Sahab videos nowadays more often than Zawahiri and Abu Yahya combined.” (Click here to watch English subtitled video.)
US puts bounties on top Al Shabab leaders in Somalia
--Ali Sayyid Muhamed Mustafa al-Bakri. A 46-year-old Egyptian known as Abd al-Aziz al-Masri, al Bakri is not well known. But the National Counter Terrorism Center, the government’s primary organization for tracking terrorism, notes that he is a “member of the al-Qaida Shura council (its governing body) and a close associate of Zawahiri." Al-Bakri is considered dangerous because he has explosives and chemical weapon expertise and has trained al-Qaida operatives as far back as the late 1990s. He attempted to hijack a Pakistani passenger flight in December 2000. “It is likely that he continues to train al-Qaida terrorists and other extremists,” reports the NCTC.
“Ever since the death of bin Laden, the al-Qaida core we’ve known since 9/11 is the closest it has ever been to a tipping point,” said the U.S. official familiar with counter terrorism strategy. “This does not mean the group is dead or the threat is gone, but core al-Qaida in Pakistan is on life support, and its chances of recovery are more daunting when they lose a guy like Abu Yahya.
“Undoubtedly, some al-Qaida members will be tapped to try to backfill Abu Yahya’s responsibilities, but in the days that follow, the succession won’t be obvious either to them or Zawahiri.”
Indeed in the past year, mainly through Predator and other drone attacks, the U.S. has been able to “remove from the battlefield” in the words of one senior Pentagon official, one al-Qaida leader after another.
In addition to Abu Yahya, these senior al-Qaida officials have been killed since bin Laden’s death:
- Ilyas Kashmiri, al-Qaida’s director of external operations, killed in a drone strike in Pakistan on June 3;
- Fazul Abdullah Mohammed, mastermind of the East Africa embassy bombings and head of al-Qaida in East Africa, died in a shootout by Somali forces on June 11;
- Abdul Rahman Atiya, bin Laden’s chief of staff, killed in a drone strike Pakistan on Aug. 22;
- Anwar al Awlaki, a leader of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula and an American citizen, was killed in a drone strike in Yemen on Sept. 30;
- Fahd Mohammed Ahmed al Quso, mastermind of the USS Cole bombing, was killed in a drone strike in Yemen on May 6 of this year.
Officials across the spectrum of counter terrorism, in intelligence and special operations, say the last year of operations, starting with the killing of bin Laden, has been the most successful since the war on al-Qaida began following the Sept. 11 attacks.
“We have decimated them, decimated them,” said the senior Pentagon official.
Robert Windrem is a senior investigative producer for NBC News.
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They're all running.
Unfortunately, an irrational belief that Allah wants them to martyr themselves brings them back.
Don't these sand monkeys know the predator is still out their, some high council.
I know alot of people hate these drone attacks, but consider the alternative,,,,,We have the biggest military on earth, but now it's also the smartest! If it keeps our soldiers from dying, I'm all for it!
Let Al Qaida go to the bench, the next generation will "foul Out" and be killed. I have no problem killing any American linked to this terrorist network, their blood is just as red........
Let these fools operate in their own world, bring out troops home and let them work on building our infrastructure. No foreign aid other than humanitarian. Park those ships in US waters. The only way the US is in harms way is by our continued imperialistic endeavors.
Don't be getting to cocky! There is always been that last gasp. Battle of the Bulge and Imo and Kamakazee. We are no wheres near out of the woods.
I agree, and know all the ''big brother 1984'' conspiracy people just cringe at the thought of drones over the US, me to. But let's save that fight of infringing on our constitutional right's. Until we have insured the destruction of those who want to do away with the very idea of personal right's and freedom's.
"Indeed in the past year, mainly through Predator and other drone attacks, the U.S. has been able to “remove from the battlefield” in the words of one senior Pentagon official, one al-Qaida leader after another."
Who's next?
Sandtrich, I agree with you, but the war machine will now continue to grind. There is big expensive for we the tax payer, but big money for the war mongers and their lobbyists. Ron Paul was our only hope, in this regard.
This type of war and foreign occupation mentality only breeds new American hating al-qaida leaders and members.
Relentlessly target and eliminate Al Qaida leaders!
Thanks to Obama, they are on the run and looking toward the skies for hell-fire missiles. The terrorists are being terrorized and it's shaking them to the core.
They know once they join, their days are numbered. I can't help but to think that these Martyrs are nothing more than drug addicts, anyone that wishes to be dead than alive must be psychologically damaged and most likely on drugs.
Obama Rambo has such a nice twang to it.
Islamic religious madness has proved to be the worst.
Carpet bomb some critical militant areas to reduce costs.
Drone attacks are not enough.
More like thanks to Bush who created the drone program.....Obama just luckily had enough common sense to continue the strikes. Give credit where credit is due
See how long the drone attacks continue once the Democrats defund the military.
@omega1-3015173
Yes, let's consider the alternative shall we. The unnamed source says its a "thinning bench" but that seems unlikely; I'm sure the reality is that it's a thinning list. The fact is that we should be grabbing some of these guys whenever it is plausible to do so. We'll always have to get some of them with drones due to logistics or risk factors but without additional, up to date info, we'll never learn who the newest recruits are. Unfortunately this administration has backed itself into a corner. They can't put anyone in Gitmo because of their policy. For the same reason they can't use enhanced interrogation even though blowing them up with half of their family hardly seems any better. Soon the intelligence gathered during the Bush years will be worthless then what will we do? Go back to Clinton's failed policy of wiretaps and signal grabs? Without new hard intel the list will eventually be empty and we won't know for sure just who exactly is sitting on the bench waiting to get in the game.
sandtrich, I dont know if you read the entire article. If you had, you would know that many of these men were personally involved in attacks on U.S. soil. That is what makes this our problem. Al-Qaida has vowed to destroy America. So, yeah, let's just pull our troops out now, while Al-Qaida still has a stronghold in Afghanistan as well as other parts of the middle-east and Africa. Let's give them another chance to kill thousands of Americans.
At least Al-Qaida doesn't need to throw in a retirement plan. They should probably include accidental death and disability policies though.
OK, not a big fan of, but if Dog the Bounty Hunter & his team did a couple of episodes of them hunting down these folks, I might just watch. :-)
They were not directly involved in 9-11. Now, it appears that you're still suffering from the Bush era hangover that says, "take the war to them." 9-11 was caused by a failed system of immigration and we were not attacked without adequate warning. When I travel to foreign countries I'm forced to leave when my visa expires. No one forced the attackers to leave and some idiot in Florida gave them flying lessons that didn't include training in landing.
No more funding for wars on foreign soil unless the politicians want to send their children, spouses, and other loved ones. 1/2 of all discretionary spending goes to the DoD--and they don't even count the VA in their budget. The CIA's budget is undisclosed and the whole thing is going to have to come to a grinding halt for the US to ever be a prosperous nation again.
Extra points will be awarded for killing this American.
"More like thanks to Bush who created the drone program.....Obama just luckily had enough common sense to continue the strikes. Give credit where credit is due"
Bush recklessly invaded Iraq for no reason but for his own family vengeance and killed many great Americans in the process. The worst president ever. He should be put to death by lethal injection.
This is turning into the worlds largest bowling tournament. Set them up to knock them them back down. Hopefully the CIA can continue a perfect game of strike after strike, as long as we are winning it remains fun.
sandtrich, I was not connecting them personally to 9/11; merely associating them with the same group... And, I agree, we did have fair warning before the events of 9/11 took place. Many agencies failed to perform their duties correctly. It was a wake-up call. That's why we have tightened security in airports, and that's why agencies like the CIA, the FBI, and the other three-letter agencies are sharing information more freely with eachother... As far as politicians children and spouses go, that's the amazing thing about it! It's a volunteer service! They don't have to go if they don't want to... As far as the budget goes, can you really put a price on freedom? Can you put a price on not having to live in fear that another city will be attacked by these people? Peace of mind is priceless.
zkysr......
Repubs pick such good leaders huh? How about that Georgie boy who sent thousands of our soldiers to their deaths over lies for the war profiteers and big oil in Iraq. Lies over WMD'S What a guy. GWB will always be known as the president who lied to start a war. GWB the vice president under Cheney at the time, as everyone knows Cheney was calling the shots back then, will be known forever as going to McCain's birthday party when all those people were dying and losing their homes and their whole lives during Hurricane Katrina. I remember the greatest speech Bush gave of his career while at the birthday party.
Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday
Sen McCain...Happy birthday to you....oh boy cake and ice cream!"
Vote President Obama/Biden and keep the economy going in the correct direction.
From the bench:
"Okay boys, who wants to have 72 virgins? Huh? Huh? Come on now, we need another brave man of god to lead us! Who wants it??"
We are spending billions of dollars a year for each active Al Qaida member to make them 'run'... awesome strategy! (NOT!)
Help Wanted: Motivated terrorist needed for high-profile organization. Plenty of room for advancement. Rumors of a dead-end job are... exaggerated.
I'm not so sure of that now. The reason we keep hitting them is because we have enough well paid spies within the ranks to keep us informed and new spies are likely coming forward often to get some of that cash.
That is arguable.
If they can't find and capture the puke, assisnate him and his brethren.
watch on You Tube....... Arab Spring, Arab winter
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This is just more bullsh!t Government propaganda to give the Government more of an excuse to kill American citizens without a trial. If they can do it there, they can do it here. WAKE UP AMERICA!
I think you're just as dense as they come. Terrorists come over here to gain citizenship and somehow we can no longer kill them because they're now American citizens? How did the terrorists's machinations to take advantage of our values and justice system somehow convict the pentagon of trying to kill Americans? Why are you people so stupid? I mean, I realize this is what it looks like, but is that really where your thinking on this issue ends?
America better wake up, but about more pressing matters:
1- Politicians working for Corporations & Wall Street not us
2- A Tax Code that hardly anyone understands because Politicians set it up that way to help the wealthy get more
3- Spending millions to upgrade Gitmo like a Spa
Its all upside down friends and we are ASLEEP!
I don't care where the guy was born. If he is Al-Qaeda leadership, he can be the target of a drone strike just like the rest of them. He is not accused of knocking over a 7/11. He is an enemy combatant.
The issue here is not whether you kill him or not. It is whether you or I as a citizen If accused, get a fair trial by our peers as guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. There are many States with death penalties so if CONVICTED there is still a good chance for execution.
Remember the Bill of Rights ? ( ALL of the Bill of Rights Tbaggers not just the 1st and 2nd amendments. )
I'm not a TBagger but the Bill of Rights has never applied to combat or war. It did not apply to those who fought for the Confederacy so why should it apply to foreign terrorists? To give civil rights to persons who are acting on behalf of foreign interests dedicated to the murder of American citizens and the destruction of things like the Bill of Rights is stupid and crazy. Get your head out of it and do some real thinking.
4corners. We are talking about an American citizen. And how do you know this person is a terrorist ? How do you know he was affiliated with them ? You don't. And when he is dead you never will. You'll only know what the media tells you.
Now take a look at the States such as Virginia and Idaho that have passed measures to start flying predator drones over US soil.
How long before your political dissent becomes 'terrorist talk' ? Or mistaken identity ?
"Real thinking" is not knee jerk 'kill them all let god sort them out'. Its lets kill them without killing ourselves in the process.
@Bob R & Rational
If they don't want to be killed without a trial then they should turn themselves in so they can stand trial for the accusations against them. Otherwise they will be pursued as wanted by force if necessary just as a criminal here in the states. If an American citizens resist arrest they are apprehended by any means possible. Same with these terrorist.
What would make you believe that our government would set out to kill someone without some proof of the mans' involvement in crimes to kill American citizens?
"Rational" your name tells us a lot about you. Be fair to everyone, except those that are religious - they can't be rational too, right? Anyway, this is war, and doing the killing with drones targets those deemed necessary for killing, with a lot of forethought, surveillance etc. This seems to be a better method than going into a country like Iraq, and listening to liberals complain about the number of innocent people killed. Maybe the government should employ the same methods for the drug cartels in in Mexico. I know, that wouldn't be fair, and we all know how fair the leadership of the cartels and terrorists are.
"five potential next-generation leaders -- three of them former U.S. residents and one an American citizen."
Are these Muslims in non-Muslim nations very dangerous?
One can never say: who will become Islamic jihadi terrorist when.
Jonathan-1982062
Right and since we've had, what, a couple dozen terrorists who were once residents we should probably round up the other 3+ million Muslims living here and put them in internment camps just in case. /sarcasm
Don't worry. If Romney is elected he'll send them a Book of Mormons. That'll turn these terrorists around.
Middle: "Anyway, this is war, and doing the killing with drones targets those deemed necessary for killing, with a lot of forethought, surveillance etc"
Is this "War?" Did we declare "War?" And if so, what country did we declare "War" on? I must have missed it.
Middle: "This seems to be a better method than going into a country like Iraq, and listening to liberals complain about the number of innocent people killed"
Are you saying that conservatives don't care about the killing of innocent people? Oh what a giveaway!
WHAT-4099780,
Actually, yeah. We declared war on terror.
As far as Romney, he will need to get his orders from Norquist before he can even make a move.
If you are an American citizen, you get your rights! End of story. Innocent until proven guilty and right to an attorney. Now that the government has found an out for not giving people their rights they will chip away and chip away at that until we have NO rights!
Seriously, the "I don't break any laws so I don't have to worry" argument is absolute crap because, once they have chipped away enough at our rights, then anyone with access to politicians or other authorities can buy the freedoms of innocent people and put them away to suit any number of agendas. It's just a matter of time.
If you are an American citizen, you get your rights! End of story. Innocent until proven guilty and right to an attorney. Now that the government has found an out for not giving people their rights they will chip away and chip away at that until we have NO rights!
Seriously, the "I don't break any laws so I don't have to worry" argument is absolute crap because, once they have chipped away enough at our rights, then anyone with access to politicians or other authorities can buy the freedoms of innocent people and put them away to suit any number of agendas. It's just a matter of time.
Picture Barack Obama sitting at his kitchen table going over a list of people, some Americans, and deciding which individuals he is going to order to be killed. I wonder if he asks his wife's opinion.
If the target is an American citizen, what exactly is the process? Does he know exactly what acts these people have committed? Does he know for a fact they are guilty? How does he determine the acts warrant the death penalty? How does he determine that anybody standing nearby when the drone attacks is also guilty of crimes warranting the death penalty?
Is this OK with everybody? Would it be OK if George Bush were making the call? Dick Cheney? What about in the future? Newt Gingrich? Is that OK? Does the target have to be on foreign soil? What if one of them comes back to the US? Can we use a drone to take him out when he's walking down Main Street?
I don't get it. Admittedly. Didn't we use to pretend that we stood for something? We don't do that anymore?
Is this the same Barack Obama that used to speak out against water boarding? Now what, he's killing people? What kind if Jekyll-Hyde thing is going on in the White House? Who would vote for this guy? You don't even know what you're voting for? He campaigns on A and does Z when he gets in.
When you join a terrorist org. You are picking up arms against the US. If you want a trial put down your weapon and turn yourself in. If not you will be killed. Fuc em i say
Looks like we have some Drone targets on this page. Hey, jt!!!!
robiscoole, I've said the same thing myself, and I can't believe I find myself on this side of this argument. But I think there's a distinction between the people you hang with, and the criminal acts that you actually commit.
What bothers me is that we don't know the process. Is Obama selecting individuals for execution? On what basis? Is this legal? Is it moral? Is it effective? Or will it come back to bite us, like half the stuff we do without thinking it through.
I mean, do we want the President of the US selecting people to be killed? This is a function more appropriate to a mob boss, than the leader of the free world.
Blackcountry: First don't permit Muslims in on whatever grounds.
Rounding up three millions will not be required.
Round up three thousand and send them back to their nations. Rest will fall in line.
Faster. The government needs to be killing them faster.
For Islamic radicalism and terrorism Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are primarily cultprits.
Pakistan provides foot soldiers and Saudi Arabia provide finance and the religious inspirations through their Salaffi and Wahhabi exremists Islamic versions.
Carpet bomb key Paki al-Qaeda jihadi areas and other trouble spots.
Otherwise, it will be difficult to contain them at later stages. Africa is already witnessing Islamic extremism spreading like wild fires!
Whatever. I'm convinced that half the sh!t I read is made-up. I bet the markets will jump 200pts over this news...blah blah blah.
Just keep putting the goat humpers up there and we'll just keep whacking off their heads. My tax money going to drones and missiles is much more attractive than EBT cards for the Obama followers.
You al queda plants are all the same. No brains just talk. You surely must not like the president shoe in your asses. Me jsut once I would like to see the look on one of the departed faces when thsy get to their heaven and find out its 72 transvestites not virgins.
OdumbodaPrez
Wow, I am voting for Obama but I am not one of those EBT card holders. Yes, lets keep giving all of our tax dollars to the Military war machine. No welfare there at all right...
As for the terrorists... You can run, you can hide, but you will be found and NOT defeat the United States of America.
You know, when you are promised a bunch of women just for joining a religious groupe. That is one heck of a Promo.
breadex, they would probably like that. Men and goats are for pleasure. Women are for babies and housekeeping.
Let me guess where Zawahiri, al-Qaida’s longtime No. 2, is in hiding
...Pakistan!
I don't see a problem killing American citizens without a trial. Do you?
It's safe to say Gadahn has renounced his US citizenship by his actions. He is an enemy combatant... unless maybe he would like to come stand trial for treason?
@ Xsited1...
If he sides with the enemy, he is no longer an American Citizen, and should be killed with the enemy.
The nano second he/she decides to become a participant in terrorist activity, they forfiet all US Citizenship rights. Pretty simple.
I see no problem in killing them while they are in enemy 'terror'tory. Their action's have already proven their treason.
And dispite their being on a death hit list, as American's, they still have the same option as all of us. To turn themselves in and clear their name before the drone's find them. So if it is all just a big mistake and they have just been 'American's on vacation' we'll be glad to listen to their misunderstood story, just come on back!
No problem whatsoever. We are at war with many muslim terrorist groups. We should be killing the entire families of these monsters, as all they will do is raise more children to "revenge" their deaths and follow a false, unbelieving and satanic cult.
xsited1, you wouldn't believe the vetting process that an American citizen goes through just to be put on a list of targets. The entire process can take months or even a couple years. The targetting of an American Citizen isn't taken lightly.
Good grief! Some of these responses to my original post are just scary.
Next up: Drones firing on American citizens on American soil. Why? Because they're bad!
Oh yeah let's capture them and bring them back for a trial. That should go very smoothly. And then we can scream about how the trials are nothing but a public relations circus. I say leave a smoking crater with the sound of a departing drone and move on to the next guy...which is exactly what we have been doing.
I wonder. To be a canidate should you know how to hide in a hole in the ground. Should you have a nervous tic like you imagine everything that flies to be a drone. Have a big hatred for everything American expecialy The Seals. Know a short cut to Pakistan. Should allready have life insurance because soon you won't be able to buy any and soon your family will need it.
Next candidate....please just step here, into these nice crosshairs for your job interview. Thank you. Next!
Better be aiming at the white house if you really want to fix the problem
The guy in the white house seems to be doing a good job at killing him. Not much of anything else, but I'll give credit where it is due.
Is there any way to forward Bob's comment to the Secret Service? Wait, I think I figured it out.
exactly. please see my response to him in his comment #21 below. this is not funny.
Bob, Tell them how hard it is to type with that hood on your head. They should be amazed not angry right ?
to sadmoronvote2 aim at the white house does not mean you have to have a gun it means vote him out of office. I can't believe how many people believe him just because he is president. This is a man who belonged to a church for 20 years that preached black power and then when running for president he quits the church and said he did not no that.
-BOB
And what is wrong with preaching about black power? Many Christian and Catholic churches sure preach about 'white power' and I sure don't see anyone complaining about that!
But I digress; we all know it OK to preach and promote White power, but if a black man does it he is CLEARLY UNAMERCIAN (sic see who gets the joke) and UNFIT FOR OFFICE.
OOOOO the subtly ........
Bob is just another cowardly hypocrite. The right wing lunatic fringe is lousy with losers of his sort.
He is a trader. Cut off his head.
OWS jihadist?
Pssst Pssst . . .... its Traitor not trader.
I know, I know, middle school is tough but don't worry keep trying hard.
Although there ARE a lot of Wall St. 'traders' that we should do the same to.
Dave: "He is a trader. Cut off his head"
You mean like a Wall Street stock trader? What does he trade? Must be something terrible if it warrants decapitation. Hmmmmm
I will repeat what i have sais in prior blogs- THIS IS WHY WE HAVE RACIAL PROFILING IN OUR COUNTRY. This war will never end with the muslim extremists. They dont want peace. They are breed to hate Americans and kill people not of their religion. Its sad but its the truth. Keep bombing the @!$%# out of them and export the ones in the US until we know we are safe or safer.
Profiling makes sense and should be used in all cases. There have been recent cases where ethnic groups have questioned (nay, demanded the cessation of) profiling even though their ethnic group is/was the major contributor to a given offense. Recently, there were objections to law enforcement, using profiling, pulling over African Americans (AA) along the stretch of I-95 between Florida and New York during a crackdown on drug smuggling by AA gangs in NY. I reckon it makes more sense to pull over little-old, white-skinned ladies to satisfy the PC crowd, a waste of law enforcement time and money.
I think it would be funny to witness law enforcement pulling a family car full of AAs over for questioning during a dragnet/search for criminal KKK and/or Nazis and the father/husband asking "Why?" with the LEO answering that they cannot use profiling as it is against the law and, more importantly, would not be very PC. Ergo, everyone, regardless of their ethnic group or race, must be questioned. In this case, it doesn't make any sense to pull over non-whites, does it? I'm pretty sure that there aren't many "Clayton Bigsbys" (singular, Clayton Bigsby) in the world.
Right now, heart-burn is generated when LEOs (law enforcement officers) question Latinos based on their appearances and mannerisms which lends suspicion to their true citizenship. While not foolproof, one can general tell whether someone may be legal or not based on their clothes and actions.
Thank goodness profiling wasn't challenged back during the heydays of the Italian Mafia and the FBI was able to bring that criminal activity to its knees using, among other methods, profiling.
I'm a white American of Irish decent dirty blonde with green eye's and have been the target of profiling. Late 60's early 70's many white's went through the same thing and like now for good reason. When looking for a certain criminal commiting a certain crime. Law enforcement only has the past profile of those who have commited that crime to go on to find the next most likely perpetrator's.
Sorry if I could cut my hair and change my clothes and no longer fit the profile. The fact still remain's 9 time's out of 10 while I fit the profile I was also guilty. So while profiling may be a pain for those who can't just cut their hair and change their clothes. It is a necassary evil that otherwise law enforcement would not only be out on the street looking for a needle in a hawstack. They would also be doing it blind. While the criminal's just pass them by because of someone else's selfish petty complaint's of the inconvenience we all must accept at one time or another to keep us all safe.
Unfortunately, Al-Qaida's tactics make sense. They're seeing how much damage Repugnicans and TeaBaggers are doing to America. Given all the shared goals, why not fish for fresh recruits among them?
They're waiting untill Nov. when the Democrats start to bite.
Nah, they are waiting to see of Mittens gets in the White House. That way, we can go invade another country over a lie and stir up more discontent amongest the people. Then they can go in a recruit more for their cause. Mmm sounds like Iraq.
With another Republican in office we'll be in Iran and Syria in no time. After all, Bush started and bungled two hugely wasteful and bloody wars and, in the unlikely scenario that Etch-A-Sketch is actually elected president, it will be his turn to squander the lives of thousands of American soldiers and a few trillion bucks for no good purpose. But, then, that's how the GOP rolls, isn't it? Integrity and moral courage are not principles embraced by Republicans, sadly.
Why is Pakistan getting a pass yet Afganistan isn't. Could it be it's becouse Pakistan has nukes?. Our inaction against Pakistan makes our action against Afganistan seem CRIMINAL. If our military is expected to win against Russia and China then Pakistan would be good seasoning for us.
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Then we would get seven bonus armies for having all of Asia.
I wonder what day Cuban Hooker day is at Gitmo.
It's Wednesdays. I'm sure we're paying for them as well.
"We have decimated them!"
For each one decimated there seems two be five more waiting in line.
Maybe mittens and Bain can recapitalize them since they depend on their success
We don't need to kill him, only track him.
When he leaves a meeting we kill everyone else that was at the meeting. We always foil the attacks he is involved with. Always strike around him, but never at him.
Pretty soon the terrorists will start wondering how come he always escapes death, but those around him never do. Then the terrorists will begin wondering if he's really a US agent. Pretty soon the terrorists will off him for us.
Sow distrust within their ranks, let Al-Qaida eat there own.....
Kind of like the French did in Algeria in the late 1950s.
how funny so many of these domestic terrorists were allowed into our country by our government. As a normal middle class somewhat rational thinking adult male, I would suggest we stop letting these people into our country, educating them, giving them the tools to learn our weaknesses(yes we have them) only to have them return home and try to use their new found information to do us harm. Screw human rights, profiling, racism and all the other BS that keep us from doing the right thing to keep us safe. The US is not available to the next generation of terroist islam, and until they start policing their own, we owe them nothing. Let them get educated and learn how to assimilate to a civilized society, or accept getting blown of the planet, either by their own jihad, or a well placed drone strike.
This is just one reason why muslims in this country are and should be questioned.
There are MANY peaceful muslims in the United States and MANY that do not subscribe to this extremism.
@ Itsabouttime: Then they better stand up and call the evil members of their religion ungody and murderers or THEY are partakers and part of the problem. Let's see THAT demonstration . (Both of them.........sarcasim)
Bensgpa
I can't disagree w/you. I still remember when many Palestinians 'cheered' on 911 and they are lucky they were not in this country when they did it. I do think most speak against these acts of extremism, but it would be nice if the American Muslims would be just a bit more vocal about it.
For years you could not find Osama a man who was on death bed but now you even know who is going to be noe 2 bull @!$%#. This is all government bull. I don't think are intelligent people could find their own ass with their hand in their back pocket. Why would they be after them anyway since the CIA is paying them to fight in syria
Bob, ever notice who was in the white house during those years when we couldnt find the tallest man in pakistan? and, now you say that the solution is to get rid of the guy who is clearly getting the job done. what's wrong with this picture? oh, and btw, your advocacy of violence against the president of the united states is way beyond the bounds of either propriety, legality or patriotism. you are obviously an enemy of the state.
@Bob, you have got to be the biggist idotic Republican Troller I have seen. First one I saw to get caught in his own net.
To bigpicture your are right but the people doing the intelligent work are basically the same and to 6dogs I am not republican but I do believe in voting for who is bet and it doesn't matter if he is republican, democrat of independent. People who vote straight party lines I believe can't think for themself
bigpicture by the way what is violent about voting out the president. Only a small mind would think that everything is done with a gun
well, bob, good luck with that if they come knocking on your door. the discussion and article were about the killing -- literal, not political -- of the various terrorists who want to assume power within the organization that killed 3000 of us on our land on september 11, 2001/ and, it seemed to me that you were soliciting putting the president of the united states into the rifle's crosshairs. if you meant it the same way sara palin claims to have meant it when she instructed her followers to put the congresswoman from arizona in the crosshairs -- that it had nothing to do with guns -- then, i guess that's the way you meant it. as i said, good luck with selling that.
We'll get him with a drone strike as well! And keep getting them!
So America is an excellent source of job training...for terrorists. Not exactly the industry we were looking to grow.
Not an Obama supporter, but I do applaud his use of drones vs putting Americans in harms way. I wouldn't risk a single American life to help anyone in the middle east. They're simply not worth it.
NO president has been more effective in taking these guys out than Obama.
I applaud President Obama for his success here, but we can't lose sight that Former President Bush and our Military have also played a key role here. Amazing what happens in this country when we have a common 'enemy' and can work together to resolve it.
GoJoBiden
ITS NOT just all about the economy. If it was, righties like you would stop whining and complaing about everything else Obama does.
You stack them up and we take them down!!!
Keep it down a bit. Trying to watch the news conference with Obama whining about Clinton saying Obama doesn't know what he is doing. So far they haven't panned back to let us see Obama stamping his feet. In fairness to Clinton, he did go on the morning shows explaining that Obama is not nearly as incompetent as he seems.
Nibor and co, you suffer from selective amnesia
I'm shocked the next in line isn't a grey-haired white grandmother. You know, the kind TSA is giving full-bodied pat-downs to at the airport.
Yes, because you know, you are 100% sure that they NEVER EVER have used or will use in the future a grandmother to mule some explosives or be a suicide bomber because they have her grandkids hostage, right? I mean, you are an intelligence, counterespionage, counter terrorism, security expert, right? The cartels have used grannies to smuggle drugs and weapons so it's amazing you, being the expert, don't know this.