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For years, the United States has been concerned about al-Qaida's recruiting along a coastal highway in eastern Libya. The stretch of highway, extending from Derna in the east, through Benghazi — the scene of the attack on a U.S. consulate that killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans last week — to Ajdabiya in the southwest, has earned a reputation as a breeding ground not just for Libya's indigenous Islamists, but also for al-Qaida central on the Afghan-Pakistan border.
Robert Windrem is senior investigative producer for NBC News.Counterterrorism experts inside and outside the U.S. government argue that it is not an exaggeration to suggest that the region around Benghazi has become a crucial wellspring for al-Qaida that rivals even its historic breeding ground — Saudi Arabia.
The area has produced many members of the terrorist organization's leadership, supplanting or at least complementing Saudi and Egyptian roles.
Following Tuesday's deadly attack, U.S. and Libyan officials are trying to determine what role homegrown radical Islamists played in the violence. Many U.S. and Libyan officials now believe the attack was planned, possibly by Libyan jihadists who have returned to their old stomping grounds after having traveled the Islamic world in recent years.
The Libya connection
"Several Libyans have risen in the ranks of al-Qaida, not because they were Libyan, but because they had unique skills and long-term relationships with the senior leadership that go back to the pre-9/11 days in Afghanistan," a U.S. official says.
Here are some of those Libyan fighters who have assumed key positions in the al-Qaida hierarchy in recent years, according to U.S. officials:
- Atiyah Abd Al Rahman, Osama bin Laden's "chief of staff" at the time of his killing in May 2011. Rahman was bin Laden's main contact with al-Qaida commanders, materials found in bin Laden's Pakistan compound showed. Correspondence between the two men grabbed by the Navy SEALs from the compound provided the most revealing details of his plans. After his mentor's death, Rahman was elevated to the No. 2 position in the organization, replacing Ayman al-Zawahiri when he succeeded bin Laden. Three and a half months after bin Laden's death, Rahman was killed in a drone strike.
- Abu Yahya al-Libi, born Mohamed Hassan Qaid, was al-Qaida's second-in-command until he was killed, having succeeded Rahman. Although there is little information about his early years, al-Libi is believed to have lived in eastern Libya. He fought in Afghanistan and studied Islam in Mauritania, in North Africa, and arrived in Iraq in 2002 to join the fight against the U.S. forces. He was captured but escaped from the U.S. detention facility in Bagram, Iraq, in 2005. His story gave him instant credibility, and he began producing videos and audios. He was killed in a drone attack on Mir Ali in North Waziristan in June.
- Abu Faraj al-Libi, born Mustafa al-'Uzayti, was al-Qaida's third in command and the director of its international operations until he was captured by Pakistani forces in May 2005. He is imprisoned at the U.S. naval facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where he awaits trial on terrorism charges. Pakistani officials have accused him of playing a lead role in planning a failed plot to simultaneously blow up 10 U.S.-bound passenger jets. He was captured while riding a motorbike on May 2, 2005, and subjected to so-called enhanced interrogation techniques.
- Abu Laith al-Libi was an al-Qaida field commander and spokesman, rising to director of military operations and the No. 4 position in the terrorist group. An outspoken and charismatic leader, he often appeared in videos and on the Internet until his death in 2008. It was he in July 2002 who revealed that bin Laden was still alive, the first comments about the al-Qaida leader's health after the end of the Afghan conflict. Then, in June 2004, he was shown leading an attack on what appeared to be an Afghan military outpost. He worked with the remnants of the Taliban. U.S. officials called him an expert in guerrilla operations. He was killed in a drone attack on Jan. 29, 2008. Adm. Mike McConnell, the former director of national intelligence, said at the time of al-Libi's death that it was "the most serious blow to the group's top leadership since the December 2005 death of then-external operations chief Hamza Rabia."
"Libya, like many other countries, has areas with a history of extremism that the government is trying to counter," a U.S. counterterrorism official told NBC News on condition of anonymity, referring to the Benghazi region.
'Prolific incubator for local extremists'
Evan Kohlmann, a U.S. Justice Department consultant on al-Qaida and an NBC News analyst, said Benghazi's reputation as a hotbed of Islamic militancy was cemented long ago.
"For more than two decades, a slice of eastern Libya near Benghazi, dominated by conservative bastions like the town of Derna, has served as a prolific incubator for local extremists, a surprising number of whom have surfaced as high-profile foreign combatants in conflicts ranging from Afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechnya, Iraq and now Syria," he said.
"Several of these combatants have taken leading roles in front-line paramilitary organizations, including al-Qaida," Kohlmann added.
Crowds of angry protesters showed up in Kabul, Afghanistan and Jakarta, Indonesia. The violent uprising followed a deadly weekend marking the deaths of eight International Security Assistance Force members. NBC's Atia Abawi reports.
An NBC News analysis of known al-Qaida leaders bears that out, indicating that the nearly 300-mile corridor between the desert and the Mediterranean Sea has produced more senior al-Qaida members than anywhere else in the Islamic world over the past seven years.
The attack on the Libyan consulate, as it happened
Among them: al-Qaida's last two seconds-in-command, as well as its international operations director (the No. 3 position in al-Qaida leadership) and its military commander — No. 4 in the hierarchy and a position typically held by some of its more charismatic propagandists. Each became a high-value target for the United States, and their deaths or captures have been trumpeted by U.S. intelligence and counterterrorism agencies.
"Leadership in al-Qaida circles tends to go in waves as colleagues bring with them established friends because of established trust," said Michael E. Leiter, former director of the National Counter Terrorism Center and now an NBC News analyst.
"For the longest time, it was what was colloquially known as the Egyptian Mafia, but gradually this group was decimated by strikes. The Libyans did rise to prominence based on a couple of charismatic leaders and the influx of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group ranks. And there is undoubtedly a strong current of the most extreme forms of Salafism in some parts of Libya that had served as a breeding ground for such al-Qaida foot soldiers and leaders," Leiter said.
Ambassador Rice: Benghazi attack began spontaneously
The close ties between al-Qaida Central in Pakistan and the Libyans were cemented in 2007 when the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, a radical group formed to overthrow Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi, broke apart, leading several leaders to join al-Qaida at the same time others were denouncing the violence of Osama bin Laden's operations.
A December 2007 report (.pdf) on foreign fighters in Iraq, produced by the Countering Terrorism Center at the U.S. Military Academy pointed out the significance of the Libyan recruiting to the rise of al-Qaida in Iraq, the local branch of the broader terror group, during the height of the Iraqi civil war.
Libyan fighters stream into Iraq
Starting in November 2007, the center analyzed nearly 700 records of foreign nationals who entered Iraq from August 2006 to August 2007. The data came from personnel records seized from al-Qaida in Iraq, which had jihadists fill out questionnaires as they arrived in Iraq.
Anti-US protests erupt in Kabul as Western missions tighten security
Of 591 records that included the countries of origin of the fighters, Libya was the second most common after Saudi Arabia — 18.8 percent (112) of the fighters reported that they hailed from Libya. And of that number, a staggering 90 percent came from the Derna-Benghazi-Ajdabiyah corridor.
Libyan President Mohamed Magariaf said foreign elements were involved in the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi — the first time Libya has officially acknowledged that it wasn't a spontaneous protest. NBC's Ayman Mohyeldin reports.
The most common cities that the fighters called home were Derna, Libya, and Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, with 52 and 51 fighters respectively. Derna, with a population just more than over 80,000 compared to Riyadh's 4.3 million, has far and away the most fighters per-capita in the records.
A Meet the Press panel discusses the role the United States plays in the Middle East.
In fact, one out of every 1,000 residents of the 300-mile corridor from Derna to Ajdabiya wound up in Iraq during that single year.
Darna's importance to the jihadist presence inside Libya was underscored earlier this year when a series of bombings was attributed to a battle for power among rival jihadist groups. There were also rumors that Ayman al-Zawahiri, al-Qaida's leader following the death of bin Laden, had dispatched a commander to Derna.
Roger Cressey, former deputy director of the National Security Council's Counter Terrorism Division, said the attack on the U.S. Consulate is likely to raise awareness of how important this region has become to al-Qaida.
"Given the presence of al-Qaida-influenced extremists in the area, this corridor will become a priority for U.S. counterterrorism," said Cressey, now an NBC News analyst. "It will join Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia."
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Yep and we are financing them with our own Tax Dollars. Incredible and we just sit by and watch. WE have to vote this clown out of office.
problem;
Thease people hate us.
solution;
give them weapons and money to kill us.
source;
lib logic 101 handbook.
I'm really surprise that Ambassador Rice continue contradicting his statements with the Syrian President Magariaf . Obama and his Administration keep the blame of the killing of our Ambassador Stevens to the filmmaker on the Mohammad movie while that statement is denied by the Syrian President who said the attach agaist the American Embasy was prepared months ago in Protest for the death of AlQaeda leaders. Obama Obama we all are Osama . Romney was right about the wrong approach of Obama in this matter, his lack of experience and his ideology is a treat to our national security. We can't have a President that ignore the facts and mislead the public opinion with false statements. Obama is a falure and shold not be reelected.
Obama = Carter
Romney 2012 for a secure America, for an strong America, no more laugh in our backs,
Hmmmm.....
Benghazi is a key recruiting ground for al-Quaida, and yet the people who attacked our consulate are disgruntled movie-goers.
Makes sense to me.
Rick, could it be that there is more at play here that you do not know about? I am sure you are a very educated person, I mean who else would call the President of the United States a " clown" but a socialy astute and studied individual?
The hayride of inept Republicans that are all knowing in their criticism of this administration is so telling in their lockstep approach to bashing every move President Obama makes.
Having knowledge about the world of counterintelligence and the social implications of governing in the midst of civil rebellion is not something the everyday citizen would ever be aware of.
Comments such as yours are an unconscionable act of disloyalty to the Government of the United States and treacherous in this time of World chaos.
Right on scooter. and more lies from the obozo camp, spontaneous assault my arse! the world laughs at the state dept lies, and the new downgrade which msm isnt covering.
what a joke this guy is!!!
what idiot would vote for such an incompetent IDIOT!!?? AN IDIOT!
Do you mean to imply that Lib Dems are all knowing? And exactly what moves does Obama make, besides golfing and campaigning, he has not done too much moving. How much experience does a community organizer have when it comes to foreign policy? So, lay off Rick, because there a lot of us who think Obama is a clown.
You don't spend billions of dollars destroying infrastructure and killing people liberating countries for democracy, and then turn it back over to the same savages that hate you and expect a happy ending. This should be common sense. But Obama seems to think he always know what is best for others.
The al-Qaida flag is now flying in Libya, and has been for awhile, but has been totally ignored. Just like the warnings of a security breach and attacks were ignored, resulting in the murders of our citizens.
America deserves better leadership.
Obama is making our intelligent stupid. It is depress how Obama is poorly handling this situation in Meddle East. Ambassador Rice Obama's puppet is talking with no ground to support her statement ,the world is looking at us like stupids and the terrorist Muslims must be laughing on us, because Obama and the media bias NBC , Media Matters , is helping them to blame the Movie and not their desire of revenge and hate toward us.
No al-Qaida here, no siree.
Just a handful of mischievous protesters who got caught up in the moment and on a whim used RPGs and heavy machine guns on our embassy.
Everything's peachy. Don't question it. Move along.
As the facts come out, we know a call for protests was issued in Egypt on 9-11 by an extremist Muslim cleric on an Egyptian extremist TV network. This was not on Libyan TV, but with the internet, it is possible that this film may have played a role in Libya. Until enough of the protesters and attackers present at Benghazi consulate are interviewed and interrogated, we will not know what role this film played in the Benghazi protest and subsequent attack.
I find it appalling that Republican apologists for Romney cannot wait until the facts are in before beginning their attacks on Obama.
Anger in the Muslim world over insults of Mohammed has resulted in numerous riots and protests over the past 12 years. A Danish cartoonist's cartoons sparked similar reaction in Muslim world in 2005.
Patience people. Reacting without the facts is a dangerous game to play.
I absolutely agree. A clown is someone who is ridiculous and amusing. Obama is not amusing.
AS more time goes by WE are seeing that the CLOWNS in DC missed ---MISSED MANY WARNINGS---including those from the BRITS and a LIBYIAN. OBAMA,CLINTON,RICE (the one at the UN) and many others are are as RESPONSIBLE for the MURDERS of our people as are those who pulled the trigger---HAVING KNOWLEDGE of this prior and NOT acting as they should have. THEY KNEW this was coming---AND another thing---THEOBAMA deems himself ABOVE ATTENDING the DAILY INTEL MEETINGS saying that "JUST READING " about things is enough" ---THIS foolish behaviour is also what helped the TANGOS MURDER OUR PEOPLE--UNINFORMED AND ABOVE THE LAW seems to be THEOBAMA CALLING CARD!
HOWEVER if many remember ---YA ALL remember this---BARRY was raised as a MUSLIME in INDO and was told when he came here by his COMMIE MENTOR to say he is a CHRISTIAN---this is in the BOOK LIES about MY FATHER---aka DREAMS!
I QUOTE OBAMM---
Quote
" I ADMIRE RUSSIA, I HONOR THE RED NATION.' -FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS 1947
OBAMA also ......
Practiced Islam - daily at school, where He WAS registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife---MICHELLE-- made you change, so you could run for office.
4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in Islam''
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AND on top of that there are many other things coming out about WHO OBAMA REALLY IS !
HE is NOT BLACK as he would like YOU TO THINK---
My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. He is the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). Go to:
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THESE are FACTS---and have been posted at the NEWSVINE MAIN SITE---however the VINE deems that FACTS about THEOBAMA are against their CoH---DON"T LOOK FOR THE SLOBBERING MAIN STREAM MEDIA TO BRING ANY OF THIS UP!
GOD HELP AMERICA if this PERSON IS ALLOWED to remain in our WHITE HOUSE for another term---IT WILL BE the END of AMERICA as we know it.
"America will not tolerate attacks against our citizens and against our embassies. We’ll defend also our constitutional rights of speech, and assembly, and religion. We have confidence in our cause in America. We respect our Constitution. We stand for the principles our constitution protects. We encourage other nations to understand and respect the principles of our constitution, because we recognize that these principles are the ultimate source of freedom for individuals around the world."
~Mitt Romney
That my friends, is what real leadership sounds like! Not an Islamic Muslim loving arse kissing, bowing to dictators, chicken hawk, that apologies to the world for what America stands for.
@shaak322 How is it "appalling" that I make my own informed opinions based on the mounting list of evidence that completely conflicts with the official stance of this administration?
Obama's policies have been exposed and now the left is so quick to call anyone who questions the "spontaneous riot" explanation as unpatriotic.
Joe Scarborough, former congressman, MSNBC host and POLITICO columnist
“…If we want to win the battle of ideas in the long term, we should be willing to face the fact that Mitt Romney is likely to lose — and should, given that he’s neither a true conservative nor a courageous moderate. He’s just an ambitious man. Nothing wrong with that, except when you want to be president.”
Mitt Robmey, Unpresidential boob ...
What a great titlle for a host in the MSNBC/ Democrat Party TV lies .
Keep living in state of denial. Are we better off with Obama in the Meddle East after pouring millions of dollars in support of the Arab Spring? The answer is not. Obama is taking us in this matter also in the wrong direction. Osama is dead and the radicals are arising.
We need a new Commander in Chief . and Ambassador Rice is a disgrace she should resigned.
Romney 2012
redvirginia
you mean "redneck" Virginia ....LOL
btw, that quote was taken from a list of about 20 similar quotes by different Republican all with the same vibe .... HA
Obama/Biden 2012
Robmey/Lyan 1040
Photos have emerged clearly showing rabid people dragging Ambassador Stevens bloodied body through a ranting mob in the streets. This is contradictory to Hillary Clinton's report stating, 'friendly Libyans took Ambassador Stevens to the hospital'. What is going on?
Hummmmmmmmmm ... ..... What are you going to do when gas is $10 a gallon and climbing?
What happens when the fragility of our economy is exposed to oil shortages & rising prices, and unemployment numbers going up?
Are you prepared for interruptions in the distribution chain .... and the ensuing social problems that will occur?
That's what you should be prepared for when this country supports or attacks Iran! ..
Perhaps if you had all the facts & intelligence that our President, Barack Obama, or any other president in office has, you might be more considerate in your opinions.
This country appears to be in the most precarious position I have seen in the last seventy years ... Perhaps the citizens that have such bitter comments about our president, need to live in a foreign land that has been racked by death & war for majority of its citizens life ... you might have a more reflective position, and be more inclined to diplomacy ...
This forum is quickly turning into a attack machine for political interest .. not discussion..
TheEnd, thank you for that recap. Liberals tend to sweep the facts under the rug and worship clinton as their hero.
Hagg
You have your head in the wrong part . Do not stay in your chair for too long, you are damaging your brain. By the way I'm not a redneck and I don't fell offended for that, they work hard in their farms , are you racist liberal ?
"I don't fell offended"
time to start supporting Teachers and Education...
MSNBC Psycho
Read Time magazine's article on how this film trailer led to Egyptian protests. I gathered much of this same info previously from First Read, NPR, and the evening news on TV.
Libya is a different situation. This may well have been a pre-planned terrorist attack. But the events elsewhere in the Middle East are clearly the result of this hateful film trailer.
I remain appalled at the lack of inquisitiveness about what actually happened here and the condemnations based on non-facts that I am reading posted by people such as yourself.
After 9-11-01, Americans rallied around our President. I see no such patriotic response in these posts. You should at least get the story straight before jumping to conclusions.
@ 1.28
YOU may be right BUT there is EVIDENCE that the trailer which has been on Y-TUBE since JULY was NOT REALLY out there to the muslimes until---
The state run Egyptian TV governed by the Muslim brotherhood through Egypt's extremist hardliner President Mohammed Morsi originally promoted the YouTube video as a mechanism to incite riots, terror and destruction of American interests. Once the fire was ignited the Muslim brotherhood whose ranks include al-Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist organizations followed up by calling for nationwide protests "to denounce offences to religion and to the Prophet."
These plans were part of joint Muslim hardliner strategy firmed up and finalized during Morsi's recent visit to Tehran and aided by a perceived weakness in leadership within the United States. Islamic hardliners have concluded Obama projects a position of weakness as evidenced by his now infamous "apology tour" and that he is currently so focused reelection he is even unwilling to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu or Israel's Defense Minister Ehud Barak. To the Muslim world, Obama’s actions present a perceived platform of weakness enticing radicals to unleash their Pandora’s box of protests as a slap in the face to Obama and to American interests around the world.
Americans posting comments in response to these events seem totally unaware that the vast majority of Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. The definition of an infidel is a 'non-believer?' In the event some may fail to understand the significance of that Islamic command, all followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of their faith so they can have a place in heaven. In effect they have been commanded to kill everyone in this chat who is not a Muslim.
Proof.
As I remember it was the republicans led by John McCain in the senate that wanted the US to use the militray to help over throw Quadify. No one seemed to care what would happen after Quadify.
So now the right wing and the tea baggers blame Obama for the failure of US policy in the mideast. The US has had no policy in the mideast for decades other than support Israel. Bush's policy was to invade Iraq and Afghanistan and we can see how well that worked. Right now we are reaping the results of the right wing neo-cons policy in the mideast. Forces sent into play long before Obama. The comments about Obama being a muslim is pure tea bagger B.S. The tea baggers are a group of mental midgets that can't get beyond their racists feelings. The should all be depoted to some island and let to die in their cesspool of ignorance.
According to Time magazine, Sheik Khaled Abdallah on the Islamist satellite TV network al-Nas showed portions of the film trailer from "Innocennce of Muslims" on Sept 8th, 2012.
Salafists, an Egyptian group of Islamists, had been having small protests at the US embassy in Cairo. After the showing of this film trailer on Sept 8th, they planned protests for Sept 11th. These Salafists are more radical than the Muslim Brotherhood and hold the 2nd highest number of seats in the Egyptian parliament. They are political opponents of the Muslim Brotherhood which holds the most seats in parliament and the Presidency.
Thus, there is an underlying political situation going on in Egypt's new democracy that may well affect events there.
Clearly, the showing of portions of this film trailer on al-Nas TV incited the protests in Egypt on Sept 11th. That al-Nas coverage and the ensuing Egyptian riot at the US Embassy in Cairo led to more coverage of this film trailer on all news networks in the world and the Muslim outrage spread as a result.
MSNBC Psycho,
See above for latest facts. I do indeed think critically and what I express is my opinion based on facts. Your opinion does not seem based on facts but rather on your hatred for our President.
When you say you don't care what news stations are saying, what I hear is you saying facts will not influence your opinion. I am appalled at such a level of close-mindedness, but I am not surprised by it.
Hatred is an evil thing that closes the mind to the reality of a situation. You see it in the Muslim world as do I, but I also see it in your comment.
Remember when Gaddafi was saying that removing him will cause more problems with terrorism for the West? Apparently he was right.
One thing for sure. We know where Obama is. Either campaigning or on the golf course. A country without a leader.
Hello folks, it's more like a recruiting ground for the U.S. Didn't we just kill the "number two" Al Qaida "leader" in Yemen and we are recruiting, arming and funding them in Libya and Syria. WTF!
Al-Qaeda has already entrenched themselves in Syria, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Egypt, and now Libya. (they were probably there already).
Al-Qaeda is going strong in success. Killing Osama Bin Laden was just the beginning of a new Reign of Terror. The US also has to deal with the Enemy from Within here---US born Terrorists practicing in the camps of Al-Qaeda, coming back to the US, to do damage.
The US must not rest with Terrorists of the worst kind. Al-Qaeda, second leader to Osama, is still in Command. He is a doctor, and very cunning. Al-Awaki's death meant nothing. The new Terrorists keep rising like the "Phoenix". They are like bees driven to the hive to make more "Honey"; or is it Terror?
Of course they are led by their Violent KORAN. It will never stop.
Once again the inept, close "in"staff of socialist advisers to Obama-san have supported and guided him down the slippery slope of ignorance about the Middle East terrorist organizations and their intent. Poor Hilary is doing her best to keep up a brave face with the ignorance of facts going on behind her back.
How in the he** can anyone, with any understanding/knowledge of Middle East events, think that the sick-minded movie trailer was the sole source of the Libyan attack is beyond me!
Senator McCain said it best..."demonstrators don't usually bring RPG's and heavy automatic weapons to a demonstration". With that in mind...why would our government take the position that the "movie trailer" was the sole source of the Middle East demonstrations. The "trailer" undoubtedly contributed to the "demonstrations", and the 9/11 timing is not insignificant either.
HOWEVER, you don't bring a knife to a gunfight, and other than Iraq and Afghanistan...that is all the Obama administration has done under the disguise of "diplomacy".
This country has lost a TRUE Ambassador, he knew the language and understood the culture...as such, he was an enemy to the terrorists. Hence the "attack" within the "demonstration".
Clyde Kloepper banned, rereg of Valspully.
When was the last time you read anything positive coming from the Mid East as a result of Obama's policies? And OBL doesn't count....anyone sitting in the big chair when that came down would have done the same thing. That was the US Military's win, Obama was just the one sitting by the phone when it happened.
When the men who killed our ambassador to Libya were in the final stages of their preparation, Hillary Clinton was in the Cook Islands, being regaled by locals in traditional dress. Her seemingly endless world tour has prioritized symbolism and pageantry over substance. So too has the administration of her boss, Barack Obama, and the costs are now becoming clear.
This explains why Obama’s chief diplomat said of the Libya attack: “I asked myself—how could this happen? How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction?”
Madam secretary, it is time for you and your boss to wake up and smell the global jihad.
There are people in this world—and not a small number of them—who share the vision bin Laden had and have the will and means to act. No amount of apologizing for America, embracing our adversaries or mistreating our allies will change that.
It is worth recalling that Cairo, the city where a mob entered the US embassy compound and burned an American flag, was the epicenter of what critics call Obama’s “apology tour.” It was there that he apologized for critical steps American officials took in the Middle East to defend against the Soviets eight years before Obama was born. It was there that he criticized his own nation’s response to 9/11.
That was the reason US diplomats in Cairo instinctively put out an apologetic condemnation of those who “hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.” They were simply channeling the Obama view of the world.
Hillary also said that the attack was the result of a “small and savage group.”
Wrong again.
Viewed correctly, the attack was perpetrated by a very large group. Terrorism as we have known it since 9/11 is but the violent vanguard of the Islamist political ideology. This ideology unifies diverse terrorists from Jemmah Islamiyah in Indonesia to Al-Shabaab in Somalia to Boko Haram in Nigeria to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt to the Haqqani network in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
While the groups are diverse and at times antagonistic toward each other, their hatred of America unites them, and they work toward a generally common goal. Behind them is a large body of people who cheer on and support Islamists—a minority of Muslims, but hardly a body of people we should ignore.
I recall seeing this pdf last year and posting it regularly while we/NATO enforced that BS "no fly zone" so the east Libyan al qaida could take over the country. My guess is that there must have been some assumptions or guarantees that the "new" government would sell out their national wealth at a faster rate than 'ol Gadhafi. Sad.
What is more asinine is assuming anything different would have happened under Mitt Romney.
What do they mean "emerges"?
This article even cites the Defense Intelligence Institute study from 5 years ago about the Libyan origins of the foreign jihadists entering Iraq between 2004-2007. Apparently these were inconvenient facts...
Obama ignored congress completely when he attacked Libya. He claimed it was NATO wanting the 'no fly zone' and congress wasn't necessary in HIS decision making process. No one ever really noted who the 'revolutionaries' were, many were fresh from Iraq where they had industriously killed Americans. Obama and Hillary both stated that an 'evil dictator' had to go and Hillary cackled and joked about Quadaffi's death. That little display was beyond poor taste, for a head of State to carry on like that is so beneath the dignity of the office that it is breath taking. Then Obama constantly and incessantly bragging about killing bin Laden, over and over and over. No dignity, no class. You don't kill heads of state and then gloat like bullies, that may have been ok for deranged Roman emperors like Caligula, it is far from seemly for an American 'leader' to do so.
Obama's war was Libya, he engaged, didn't know or didn't care to have the facts and all his supporters brayed about how wonderful and 'strong' he was. So, now Al-Quaeda has grown much, much stronger and better armed (Obama sent those 'rebels' arms like he is doing in Syria, better equipping Al Quaeda than either Iran or Saudi Arabia) and let us not forget all those 'disappeared' weapons, tons and tons of them from Quadaffi's arsenal. Obama and Hillary are the best friends a terrorist can have.
I know this isn't proper, but I lost a friend. Hope all the best for you Tyler. Sorry if I said something wrong.
time to leave OPEC and drill here and stop sending our money to people that hate us
problem;
lots of oil at home, rampant unemployment.
solution;
give opec money and keep them profitable while unemployment rages at home
Source;
lib logic 101 handbook
It makes no sense at all to encourage more drilling (of oil) in our own country to reduce our dependence on oil from north african and middle eastern sources. Oh, WAIT!
We consume 24% of the world's oil. Presently, we get our oil from the US (11% of world's oil produced) and Canada and South America. Surprisingly, we get very little oil from the middle East. Europe does though. The world oil market determines the price of oil and the supply tends to go to countries that are closest to where the oil is produced. The middle East is not very close to us. We do get oil from Venezuela which is a member of OPEC.
We gave the "rebels" food, equipment and provided air support. The West essentially helped our enemies. Now even with their new society they stream into the West while they make their lands inhospitable to any Western immigration. If this trend continues for another 100 years what do you think is going to happen?
The terrorists that attacked our Benghazi consulate represent but a small minority of Libyans. Moamar Khaddafi was a brutal, repressive dictator. We could have sat by and done nothing as his forces slaughtered innocent Libyans.
We chose instead to prevent this slaughter and we now have a pro-western government there. This is a new government with little experience at dealing with civil unrest. It is a weak government, but I believe it is far better for Libyans than a Khaddafi government whose history included the bombing of US airplane over Lockerbie some years ago.
why this simply cant be....our pres backed them..... i dont know about you but im pretty shocked....SHOCKED i say.............
so who came up with this shocking revolution?.... the new czar of the blatantly obvious stupidity department?.............
NATO supported the rebel forces as well. Libya was ruled by a brutal dictator for over 34 years. That there was an uprising against his tyranny is something that all Americans should support. that a small portion of the rebels was anti-American is something the US and the pro-western government of Libya will have to deal with and we will.
The anti-Obama forces among us choose to ignore the facts while expressing their outrage. Terrorism is intended to divide us and make us angry. I see here that this terrorist strategy appears to be working.
I, for one, would not be shocked to discover anti-Obama forces behind this silly "innocence of muslim" video. It's working on this thread, isn't it?
Anti-Obama forces after all he has done to extend the hand of friendship to radical Islam? I am shocked, almost as much as Hillary was shocked. Anti-Obama, the radical muslims? Nah. Say it isn't so.
We need to stop sending money to them especialy now that we are broke and they hate us. I know we helped to create some of our enemies by training and arming them.
Obam loves Islam and he will never consider
The Libyan government is pro-Western. There have been pro-American demonstrations in Libya since the consulate attacks. Most Libyans like us and are thankful for the help we gave them.
The terrorist forces in Libya will be hunted down and arrested or killed. The Libyan government has said so. Our President has said so.
shaak: don't confuse them with facts. It hurts their brains. Watch their insults fly next. Some are quite amusing (in a pathetic childish way) Despair and stagnation -- so superior to hope & change, huh?
The Libyan government has said so, our president has said so and therefore it is gospel.
We just have to stop supporting our enemies financially and stop giving them our technology, weapons, and aircraft. We have to quit turning the other cheek and recognize them for what they are- enemies who want to destroy us.
problem;
bully on school grounds
solution;
give him lunch money and club to appease him for awhile
source;
lib logic 101 handbook
The enemy we are facing is a terrorist group not representative of most Libyans. We must support this government in its efforts to track down these terrorists.
We should NOT be over there messing with the politics anyway..
US has choices - we are NOT police for world..... Get over it, & get OUT of Middle east -- OR Kill Them ALL.
Obama-Nation loves them, Kisses hands and A$$ of leaders.. So we (US) are stuck....... US was stupid,
10+ years after 9/11 and not expecting something. How Stupid and Niave....
They will find 2 things, first it was very well planned attack on Embassy and Inside Help..... Embassy should have US Security and Safety Bombs to completely level in event of attack..
Stupid, Sheep in the US.... Sorry we lost 3 or 4 good guys..
Democracy is an American ideal that we continually promote. To allow tyranny to flourish in this world is simply un-American.
Obama admires Muslims and their faith. Is he one of them?...you decide
i've decided, and its obvious he isn't one of them. lol. As have most people who aren't obviously biased haters. :)
vermont,
don't forget racist's
I don't know what racists have to do with this. I'm just laughing at the "obama is a muslim" nonsense. Its free entertainment. :)
Obama was raised as a Muslim and studied the Qur'an, he often quotes from it...that's a fact.
If he's a Christian, then he must of "evolved" in to one at some point. However, i do not know any Christian that would sit in a church for 20 years (1000 Sunday's) that "God damned America"
Another thing i have noticed about Obama over the years. When he quotes from or mentions the Qur'an, it's ALWAYS the "Holy Qur'an" when he mentions the Bible, which is not often, it is simply "the Bible"
I have never heard the man say "Holy Bible". Why?
@ HARLEY CHIC---THESE are some questions that were asked of THEOBAMA and then researched by another BLACK AMERICAN AUTHOR.
My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. He is the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). Go to:
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7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
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8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated
(it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is
being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'
Obama was raised as a Christian and an American. That you continue to call him Muslim speaks to your ignorance and hatred.
Thank you shaak. Father forgive them for they know not what they do...
Guess neither of you can read and comprehend can you---
9.9 and 9.10
Nah, they are deep in the denial of anything factual about Obama that isn't pretty and sweet.
Well, did the government really think that terrorism would end with the death of Bin Laden? With all this intel seems to me they should have finished the job. Same old story - either pull out completely or finish the job. Confusing to remember the names of these places and organizations, but while the names are different, the terrorists are the same - they all hate the Infidels and are determined to destroy and overtake the Western world and we are the fools who fund it and have the blood of our soldiers shed in their disgusting, dirty, scum filled, dictatorship, impoverished, hate filled, third world countries. If they do not want the freedoms we have, then we need to leave them to their own demise and not let them threaten our freedoms.
Obama was warned and he kept on ignoring this. His so called experts are leading him in the wrong direction.
problem;
inexperience and clueless leader
solution;
apoint "advisers" with no experience who are equally clueless to help.
source;
lib logic 101 handbook
speaking of clueless: al quada has been there for DECADES. Who knew that obama was president DECADES ago? :)
Obama's team is very experienced and has handling this crisis very well. Israeli warning was about Hezbollah which had nothing to do with Libya.
You prefer to condemn our government rather than to consider that a bunch of angry Muslims reacting to the latest provocation from anti-Muslim forces says nothing about US foreign policy. It only says a lot about this cycle of hatred that plagues our world.
Hatred can be the most destructive force on the face of the Earth.
Denial is worse, it leads to serious problems. Obama's team may be very experienced, too bad Obama ignores them and listens to a sage like Valerie Jarrett instead.
Oh big surprise that Libya is producing Terrorists.
When the hell is our Government going to realize
that none of these African Muslim and Middle East Country's are
not our Friends. There's not a single one of these Country's that wouldn't
like to cause harm the Americans. Its time to do a Reagan on there asses.
Fly over bomb a bunch of the key locations. Keep doing it until
they realize like Qaddafi did that F**cking with the US means that your going to
get your ass kicked. All from the AIR. No boots on the ground.
Wait, I thought going into Iraq was goi9ng to take care of them. Now you want to launch multi-million dollar missile around the clock.
Isn't that going to screw up Romney's debt clock? Years ago Regan fired some missiles. He also drove up the debt in the county higher than ever before.
We have had terrorists in this country. Timothy McVeigh comes to mind. Terrorism does not respect the boundaries of nations, so your nationalistic response to terrorism is baseless in fact and theory.
No, it can't be, another Obama Administration failure in Foreign Policy !!! Time to get rid of the Muslim/Communist. Mr. Obama will hurl us into the worst economic/war period that this Country will have ever known. This obamination of our Country must STOP !!!
problem;
No foreign ( or workable domestic ) policy after 4 years
Solution;
re-elect him on his "accomplishments"
source;
lib logic 101 handbook.
how exactly is this a failure of foreign policy? what would you have done differently?
I guess this site wil not let you post links in order to defend your argument. There's a video thats almost 7minutes long on you tube Obama the muslim: in his own words. Worth watching.
problem;
video takes 7 minutes, lib attention span 1.5 seconds
solution;
put fingers in ears, close eyes and contiguously scream its Bush's fault for 6 minutes.58.5 seconds
source;
lib logic 101 handbook
MSNBC psyche ward, love your posts!
Romney/Ryan 2012
OH WHATAGIVEAWAY!
Romney/Ryan lovers--they "love" ignorant, abusive, insulting, hateful rants! Hilarious!
No rational discourse for them! No!--just personal insults and ignorant rants. Who can tell them apart from the Muslim extremists they hate and to whom they claim superiority?
If a foreign policy is to be judged by how some Muslims react to an inflammatory film trailer, then there is no hope for any foreign policy to succeed. We might as well just let the hotheads of this world run the world.
Patience is needed here. The full story will come to light if you seek facts and not hate reinforcing rumors and condemnations.
So, here is a better option., We (US Citizens) do not need Oil or the Middle east..
If you spent the $$ ( 280 Billion ) that was pissed away on Afganistan into Solar Energy Systems for US homes and Business, you would have 2.8 million homes off the power grid and generating power when people are at work. THe amount of IOL SAVED would far surpass the investment.. Plus you woule have created MANY JOBS
This US Government is BROKEN, Money wasted and burned for BIG BUSINESS to make them rich.
I have been making Synthetic Diesel from SOLAR ENERGY for 10 Years in a small lab using Propane & Natrual Gas.. No Need for Big Oil COmpanies... Got Kicked out Dept Energy in 1993 when looking for Grant..
The US has no interest in real Change, Cause it voliates the GooD old Boys Club and the RICH....
PL
how in the world did you get the permits to do this? heck around here you need a building permit for nailing a couple 2X4's together. then come the inspectors followed closely behind by the property tax re assessment people.
hope you do this safely , even so when i think about my neighbors i sure as hell wouldn't want any of them trying this at home.
So when Bush decided to invade Afghanistan with 80% citizen support and said we will leave this country in better shape than we found it, you want us to just wash our hands of it. I believe that when a US President promises something when invading a country that our country needs to honor those promises.
What does an American promise mean if we just walk away from it when it becomes expensive or inconvenient. I, for one, want the USA to keep its word because trust is important in the world and our role as a peacemaker and promoter of democracy in the world is derived from our TRUSTWORTHINESS.
Hey Obama, it's time to s%it or get off the pot! Put the beer down, and act like a leader.
what should obama do...exactly? just curious how YOU would solve this situation?
Close borders, have a stronger military presence (with ammo) give warning shots when attempts to enter our embassy occur and shoot if the warning shots do not work. Tell the terrorist leaders to control their people and give them a definate time when this should happen. Ultimatim of our demands being met or threaten with stopping all foreign aid immediately. If they threaten to retaliate, then we warn them of the possibility that we will have no alternative but to defend the US and then follow thru if absolutely necessary. My guess is that if they see strength on the side of the Americans and are also faced with the possibility of losing their bread and butter, or rather goat and fava beans, they will desist.
Wow. You are really striking a low blow. Perhaps you should get off the pot and study some books on the history of the middle East and US foreign policy. Obama is pursuing a wise course here. It is very much how previous US Presidents have dealt with Mid East riots.
Has anyone noticed that the major News Channels have suppressed the Middle East News and Happenings except for FOX. Does this tell you anything Folks !!!
lol, yeah, its so "suppressed" that we are here posting on a news story about the Middle east. :)
Mike, yes it tells me that our news media is driven by ratings and not by any obligation to inform the public. Expand your horizons or work for change.
problem;
libs don't like fox
solution;
watch fox to "keep an eye on them"
source;
lib logic 101 handbook
Has anyone noticed that most Americans consider FOX the Republican PROPAGANDA network?
Well, they have some decent ratings unlike the real Obama propaganda network known as NBC.
Ok people stop with the Obama loves Islam BS. He is not a Muslim. If you dont like
the President then Vote him out in November. But stop with all the lies.
If he is one of them like you say then why has he ordered the Military to take the shoot that has killed
more top Terrorists then any recent President.
Both Clinton and Bush had eyes on Bin Ladin but would not take him out.
Cant you Beck, Limbaough, Fox News loving sheppeople think for yourselves.
you must have misses his speech where he talks about islam being a religion of peace and love, which was folllowed up by saying "there is nothing more beautiful than the evening call to prayer"
how can they stop lying? That's all they have in there cognitively dissonant bizarro world of mean old fat white guys that are the product of poor education and low IQ. Lies are all they have.
@ 17----YOU really do need to do some freee thinking and research!
TERRY ANDERSON, A BLACK LOS ANGELES TALK RADIO HOST, WENT
DOWN A LIST OF THINGS SENATOR OBAMA HAS SAID THAT AREN'T EXACTLY CORRECT.
My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. He is the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). Go to:
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7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in Islam''
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8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated
(it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is
being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'
I don't understand how we Americans can be such a bunch of sheep. The 911 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia, this story says the majority of terrorists come from Saudi yet we went to war with Iraq and Afghanistan. Why aren't drones bombing Saudi Arabia? They say they are our friends, yet breed the most people out to kill us and we let them. I guess oil is more important than our security and our children. How soon will we wake up? If ever. Why is no one asking this question? If we don't cut off the head of the snake it will keep biting us. The sad fact is the snake is in bed with us and our politicians.
Terrorists do not respect borders. Afghanistan was home to the main al Quaeda training base and Bin Laden. That is why we attacked Afghanistan.
Iraq's Saddam Hussein tried to have Pres. Bush's dad assassinated in Kuwait. I believe that is main reason Bush-Cheney went into Iraq, although they cited WMD (none found). Al Quaeda link (tenuous at best), and building democracy.
is that where we dug up obozo??
Truebro,
No. It's where we found your brain. In a hole under an outhouse.
there was a time in amercian history when we would have laghed at and made fub of the rag heads and their stupid religion...and if they objected or killed amercian they would have died in mass, see ww2
There was never a time in US history where we did that. Benjamin Franklin gave money to help build the first mosque in America. This country was founded by a lot of people whose forefathers fled religious persecution in Europe. You need to study American history.
Looks like toooo much campaigning and not enough attention paid to connecting the dots. Administrartion is lying, they had warning. Shame shame.
There were probably no dots to connect. Israel warned about Hezbollah which has nothing to do with Libya. You are much to quick to accuse someone of lying. Try gathering some facts.
it is funny how the republicans criticize the president when he doesn't do what they want about the middle east, first they want him to support the rebels to overthrow the dictators, then they want him to go to war against the same people they want him to help, am i the only one that reads the news, or pays attention to what's going on? some of you just have your heads so way up in your rear ends and are blinded by hate and racial discrimination. how many of you are serving or have served in the armed forces? for romney and company it is so easy to say lets go to war, but i know that all their rich kids wont even enlist to go fight any war, so why don't they stop bitching and whinning and stop blocking the president when he wants to do the right thing. as far as i know the president can't even act on his own when it comes to go to war, it has to be aproved by congress and the house, so all you haters open your eyes and stop listening to fox and the republicans before you do something realy stupid.
Nope. You can pin this one 100% on Oblahblah.
It was his choice to overthrow Khadafi and Mubarak, and his choice alone.
The House and Senate had nothing to do with it.
I guess you forgot his did this all under Executive Order, even after the time expired for him to do so.
Do not speak for me, I never wanted dictators to be overthrown to support any rebels. The President is supposed to be able to negotiate and compromise with congress, if he can't do that, then perhaps he needs to step down. Several leaders in America's history have been faced with crisis and had to go against a congress that did not give them the majority, but were able to accomplish at least in part some of their agenda, and did so without putting blame on any who came before them.
Marlon,
Just the fact alone that you think Oblahblah did this with permission from Congress shows me that you don't know what you are talking about and totally brainwashed.
When the men who killed our ambassador to Libya were in the final stages of their preparation, Hillary Clinton was in the Cook Islands, being regaled by locals in traditional dress. Her seemingly endless world tour has prioritized symbolism and pageantry over substance. So too has the administration of her boss, Barack Obama, and the costs are now becoming clear.
This explains why Obama’s chief diplomat said of the Libya attack: “I asked myself—how could this happen? How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction?”
Madam secretary, it is time for you and your boss to wake up and smell the global jihad.
There are people in this world—and not a small number of them—who share the vision bin Laden had and have the will and means to act. No amount of apologizing for America, embracing our adversaries or mistreating our allies will change that.
It is worth recalling that Cairo, the city where a mob entered the US embassy compound and burned an American flag, was the epicenter of what critics call Obama’s “apology tour.” It was there that he apologized for critical steps American officials took in the Middle East to defend against the Soviets eight years before Obama was born. It was there that he criticized his own nation’s response to 9/11.
That was the reason US diplomats in Cairo instinctively put out an apologetic condemnation of those who “hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.” They were simply channeling the Obama view of the world.
Hillary also said that the attack was the result of a “small and savage group.”
Wrong again.
Viewed correctly, the attack was perpetrated by a very large group. Terrorism as we have known it since 9/11 is but the violent vanguard of the Islamist political ideology. This ideology unifies diverse terrorists from Jemmah Islamiyah in Indonesia to Al-Shabaab in Somalia to Boko Haram in Nigeria to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt to the Haqqani network in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
While the groups are diverse and at times antagonistic toward each other, their hatred of America unites them, and they work toward a generally common goal. Behind them is a large body of people who cheer on and support Islamists—a minority of Muslims, but hardly a body of people we should ignore.
all obozo did was change pro american dictators for anti american dictators
if you were more FOS it would be coming out of your ears, too. Now it's just your mouth. Qadafi was 'pro-American'. Are you friggin nuts!!??? What about Pan Am 103? Mubarak has been a despot for teh past 40 years-just go ask your hero Dumbya. Libya now is no different than Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia and anyplace else there is a power vacuum, al Qaida elements will buzz there like flies to sheet (or maybe your mouth)
Truebro, You know nothing about Libya. Quaddafi was anti-American for 30 years. He was co-founder of OPEC. He ordered Lockerbie bombing. Reagan launched missiles at him killing one of his family members.
And he was a brutal dictator. A really crazy one.
When these brainwashed muslims who are taught from birth not to think outside the bun of Islam demonstrate their violent intolerence of others, play the Al-Qaida scapecoat card.
You got that right.
Many Muslims are well educated and understand Western ways, but unfortunately many remain uneducated and susceptible to the extremist lie machines in the Middle East.
Truth and facts are the solution here. Ignorance breeds intolerance. Education breeds understanding.
As we follow the Obama doctrine we will move farther away from the Middle East and into the Pacific. Middle East must learn to live together, better.
Obama/Biden 2012
another loony obozobot speaks..
pelekikene ua pua a nalo koho paloka
Mahalo, bro
Obama doctrine? What Obama doctrine? Starting a war with China?