Florida voters receive letters saying their citizenship is being challenged, along with their eligibility to vote. WBBH's Dave Elias reports.
The FBI and U.S. Postal Service inspectors are investigating bogus official-looking letters sent to voters in at least 28 Florida counties questioning their citizenship and their eligibility to vote, NBC News has learned.
David Couvertier, a spokesman for the FBI in Tampa, said his office opened up an investigation into the possible attempt at voter intimidation on Wednesday after receiving reports that eligible voters throughout the state have received the letters.
"We're taking it as a serious situation," he said. "We're looking at everything from civil rights violations to election fraud -- to everything in between."
Chris Cate, a spokesman for the Florida Secretary of State's Office, told NBC News, "We believe these letters appear to meet the standard of voter intimidation." Between 50 and 100 such letters have been reported to state officials so far, "and those are only the ones we know about. We're encouraging people to come forward."
The fake letters, which first started showing up last Friday, have been sent under the names of real Florida county election supervisors -- with some correct contact information -- informing the voters that the supervisors have received "information" about their citizenship status, "bringing into doubt your eligibility as a registered voter."
The letters also say the voter must fill out a Voter Eligibility Form in the next 15 days -- and failure to do so will result "in the removal of your name from the voter registration rolls and you will no longer be eligible to vote."
"A non-registered voter who casts a vote in the state of Florida may be subject to arrest, imprisonment, and/or other criminal sanctions," the letters state.
Some of the letters have been received by "longtime, staunch voters who have been exercising their right to vote" for years, Couvertier said. While those people are likely to vote anyway, "Our concern is someone who might not be secure and then questions whether they should vote."
It's not clear who sent the letters, which were machine postmarked in Seattle. Couvertier said the FBI in Tampa is working with its Seattle office to track down the perpetrator.
Cate said a "significant majority have gone to Republican voters, but not exclusively. We've got Democrats who received the letters, we've got independents. We're telling everybody to be on the lookout."
Michael Isikoff is NBC News national investigative correspondent.
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the vast right-wing conspiracy continues....
When the Republican party was born, it's goal was abolition. Sadly, now GOP stands for bad prejudices, ... including a war on women and minorities, including efforts to disenfranchise them.
but happily, most of the Photo ID laws in GOP-controlled states have been put on hold - without actual impact on these November elections.
Troll Alert!!
In Ohio...
Attorney General Eric Holder: Investigate Tagg Romney owning voting machines in OHIO....
http://www.change.org/petitions/attorney-general-eric-holder-investigate-tagg-romney-owning-voting-machines-in-ohio
In Colorado...
About 800 people whose registrations were lost and they may have as many as 10,000 people who think they are registered but may not be.
All because the Republican Secretary of State Scott Gessler lured new registrars to his site and now mysteriously lost lot's of them.
Doesn't anyone here suspect foul play???
This should not be ignored and no one is talking about this.
Remember how the GOP has disposed of Democratic registrations with the firm they just fired because they got caught.
The same firm that was in question during Bush's elections.
This time is as easy as a switch on a database and POOF all D's are gone
In Colorado, about 800 people whose registrations were lost and they may have as many as 10,000 people who think they are registered but may not be.
All because the Republican Secretary of State Scott Gessler lured new registrars to his site and now mysteriously lost lot's of them.
Doesn't anyone here suspect foul play???
This should not be ignored and no one is talking about this.
Remember how the GOP has disposed of Democratic registrations with the firm they just fired because they got caught.
The same firm that was in question during Bush's elections.
This time is as easy as a switch on a database and POOF all D's are gone.
Hey, Rich Frey: hahaha,
Hahahahahahahaha, yes, we are all warned of a Troll called Rich Frey.
.
Thanks for your self-deprecating humor, and thanks for the laughters.
More desperate tactics from the 7% approved GOP...
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/10/23/1076441/more-hispanic-voters-in-arizona-given-
wrong-date-for-election-day-by-maricopa-county-officials/
Giving minorities the wrong voting date is as low as it gets.
To make it worse...
More desperation from the 7% approved GOP...
Major Cable Provider In Ohio Offering Anti-Obama Film For Free
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/10/23/1078081/major-cable-provider-in-ohio-offering-
anti-obama-film-for-free/
Sick.
Democrats are trying to commit VOTER FRAUD. Again!
Republicans are RIGHT to pursue voter fraud!!
Everyone should have to show ID!
I warned that the Sheldon Adelson and Koch brothers would open up the financial floodgates in the last two weeks. They have already been busted twice in the last month with voter registration fraud. Now, they are trying to scare away legally registered voters.
Next, they will do like in 2000 and 2004 and try actual voter intimidation at the polls. Watch. They have money, but no brains. They are going to take this election if they can no matter what. Last line of defense is Tagg Romney, who bought the company that owns the voting machines in Ohio. They are playing for keeps, and so should we.
Yep, the GOP is trying to steal another election once again.
Hey,
Arthur66
Democrats are trying to commit VOTER FRAUD. Again!
Republicans are RIGHT to pursue voter fraud!!
you are making no sense. A few years ago ACORN did not commit fraud. It's the GOP that has really been a fraud in voting. It's in the news in late september about a GOP consulting firm - Strategic Allied Consulting.
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Google 'Strategic Allied Consulting.' and you will find out more about this vast right wing conspiracy - last time in 2000 such conspiracy was backed up by the Supreme Court. When felons are encouraged, they are more likely to commit more crimes.
BO 2012 - they also sent out letters in 2004 to residents telling them to go to the wrong voting locations. I'm sure they will try this again, because it is two for a dollar for stamps.
Watch out for bogus letters advising of polling location changes.
Here we have the son of a democrat congressman telling people how to cast hundreds of illegal votes. Voter ID laws anyone?
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/24/congressman-jim-morans-son-caught-on-tape-teaching-vote-fraud-techniques/
Did any of you democrats claiming that this is republicans trying to "steal" the election ever bother to read the story? If anything this would be a democrat conspiracy because most of the letters went to republicans.
What do you call a political party that is always plotting ways to suppress a citizen’s right to vote? THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!
I know for a fact that this type of voter intimidation and misinformation is something that is encouraged by the GOP and has been a part of their core strategy for over 100 years. I know this because I was once an insider with the Republican Party. Then one day I woke up and realized how evil and self serving the party really was.
The Republican Party must be purged from our political system. There is no place in America for an organization that constantly and systematically plots new ways to suppress a citizen’s right to vote.
THE ONLY VOTER FRAUD IS VOTER SUPPRESSION! These guys know they can't win fairly so they will cheat, steal and if needed cause harm to set the agenda... what a bunch of frauds, phonies and "true believers"! Their (Republican Party and the Tea Party) ideological extemism can and does justify anything, anything, ANYTHING, A N Y T H I N G... in their pursuit of a Corporatist, Theocratic, White Middle Age Male run country! And any women thinking about voting for Mitt, Paul or other Republicans... you will loose, truly loos all your Reproductive Rights first by degree and then with an irreversible finality when we have 6 or more Conservative Supreme Court Justices!
I can guess where the trail leads.... just go after any of the right wing superPACS, billionaire donors or even the right wing campaign and you will find ELECTION FRAUD!!!!! it's the way of the right...can't win fairly...CHEAT.... Republican Democracy at it's best!!!!
Democrats never fail to amaze me. Initiating voter intimidation by mail now. Then there is this video of a democrat boss plotting voter fraud. http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/video-captures-dem-campaign-chief-plotting-vote-fraud/
did you idiots claiming the republicans did this not read the a "significant majority have gone to Republican voters, but not exclusively" part?
The Republican Bigot parade. Stuff the ballot boxes,scare,and threaten. Romney Dragoons. Sounds like
the brown shirts of Nazi Germany. Slip the dogs of war. Next there will be shootings at the polls.
Don't people get it. Your voting for your freedom. Wake up. He wants complete power over your lives.
PAF, if anything it would be the republican party trying to make democrats look bad, maybe to try to minimize the damage we have seen by the republican party in the last couple of weeks? Will the GOP stoop to anything?
BO
Stay out of the affairs of my state, especially when you are actually clueless to this. What you are circulating is fraudulent.
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2012/10/ohio_voting_machines_are_not_c.html
Pigotry,
I realize it is important to you to be the first to spread your slant. You might want to read the story first. The article says "most of the letters were sent to Republicans"
WOW I can't believe the left on this board -- y'all can't read???? Let me paste it for you as that's all you seem to NOT be able to read. Please read several times, you are embarrassing yourselves:
Cate said a "significant majority have gone to Republican voters, but not exclusively. We've got Democrats who received the letters, we've got independents. We're telling everybody to be on the lookout."
Hopefully that helps you.
Arthur66...
Over 200 years of voting and as little as 0.01% actual "DOCUMENTED" voter fraud and we have to show ID because the right wing has made up this perception of rampant fraud while committing election fraud themselves and we are to take anything You say seriously!!!... it would appear that the definition of Democracy according to the Right Wing is the disenfranchisement of everyone who isn’t a Republican!!!
the states have no problem in collecting taxes from these people, or having had them vote in past elections...only now are they considered illegal and must show ID, why, is this the only way the extremist right wing terrorist organization known as the Republican party can win these days???
Election fraud and voter suppression is the only REAL Voter Fraud. Some people need to go to jail for a long time.
Dottie, we read the post. Democrats do not resort to this. You surely have read all that has gone on in the last couple of weeks, which the republican party has tried to distance itself from. Most reasonable people would see this for what it is, a feeble effort to bring the democrat party into the fray. Its just not working.
The good news is that since most of the letters appear to have gone out to repubs, it won't have any affect on the elections. The repubs are intelligent enough to figure out that it is bogus. Now, to the extent that they've gone out to dems, that is a different story. If you recall, in the Bush/Gore election of 2000, the repubs had no problem figuring out the Broward County ballot, but the dems claimed that it was confusing. Of course, as part of that "fiasco," the dem. controlled commissioners counted, recounted and recounted again the ballots and weren't able to find enough "hanging chads!" So, when the SC said that's enough counting, the dems screamed that the election was stolen from them. Go figure! I suppose they thought the rule was Gore was the only one who should have been entitled to count the ballots.
At any rate, like the Nigerian letter/email scandal that says provide us with your bank account information so we can send you money, if you are stupid enough to fall for this then you are too stupid to vote. Heck, just look at all the dimwits here posting criticizing the repubs about this. The apparently don't understand that it is obviously a dem activity since most of the letters went to repubs.
My Blood hound Skip barked three times when he smelled one of the phony letters...
3 barks means they came from the GOP headquarters...
Wait, he just barked again, this time twice...
Wow Skip, how did Karl Rove get into the picture buddy?
Shelia......I guess you can't accept the truth. Is it nice weather in that fantasy land you are living in? The letter went out to more republicans, meaning it would help the democrats. It is also a fact that groups like Acorn get into far more trouble than the small little episodes that happened over the past few months with the republican party. Of course, you will probably continue to ignore the facts and the truth and remain a blind follower to a party that doesn't care about you.
If the GOP steals the election like they did in 2000...This time there will be trouble
Well scott, I don't know whether there has been much voter fraud or not. One thing is certain, we'll never know if we don't look.
I remember boss tweed, richard daly, elbridge gerry and landslide lyndon getting all the votes from an entire county.
How many of them were republicans?
If you can't buy an election and your Voter ID laws are being ruled unconstitutional then send out fake letters telling the opposition that they can't vote! Guess who would do this! We know! The teabuggers!
steal the election in 2000? And how did that happen? What about the election you stole in Minnesota that put Al Franken in the Senate with the help of hundreds of illegal votes?
PAF, I can recognize the truth when I see it. This has trying to shift the blame game all over it. Don't you think it might be a little late for this to be a true democrat ploy?
To all of you idiots complaining about how this is work of the republican party : have you not read the entire article? Especially the part about how a" significant majority have gone to Republican voters"? Before you spout of you crock pot conspiracy theories maybe you should take the time to actually read the article you are commenting on!
Why would it be too late to be a democrat ploy? Wouldn't you want the letter to come out about 2 weeks before the election? Not enough time in advance to fix it, but enough time in advanced to stop people from voting. Why do you ignore the facts? Shift the blame? I guess we should say that somehow the republicans got to the son of the democrat congressman and made him show people how to cast illegal votes to deflect attention. Face the facts, the democrat party has corrupt element.
The story says the majority of the letters went to Republicans and the Democrats on this vine say that the Republicans are tampering with the election. I suggest to you posters who did not catch that, you really need to take a reading comprehension course. Or perhaps you need to remove your head from your anus.
This story has ACORN written all over it. While neither party has a monopoly on corruption, this is clearly a story about corrupt Democrats.
IWonder-932455
Why don't we start to punish those who ARE committing Election fraud with prison while looking into voter fraud- it would appear that election fraud is easier to find!!! just trace the Robo calls, letters, e-mails, billboards, and even poll workers that give wrong dates, polling locations, hold signs that say that voters will need ID, etc.... lets go after states that limit polling machines or hours in specific locations known to vote the other way by eliminating all federal funds going to that state.
Lets get an Amendment to the Constitution that NO AMERICAN will be denied the RIGHT TO VOTE BY ANY STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Um, did you fail to read that the bulk of these letters went to republican voters?
PAF, come on, that is just too darn convenient. And the timeframe? A couple of weeks before election, that is hardly enough time to do any damage. Nobody in their right mind is laying this at the democrats door. For one thing, voter suppression is just not part of their policy. Most of us know you cannot suppress or in anyway intimidate a republican voter.
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Trump The Trumpster with these facts...
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/
PutAmericaFirst
Have you noticed that the only people, other than you, are a bunch of liberal trolls trying to convince each other to keep that buffoon in the White House.
NObama 2012!!
Seeing how the GOP policies that put us in debt and Looking at Mitt Romney's business model and what DAVID STOCKMAN, Saint Ronald Reagan's budget director said about Romney…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/15/david-stockman-mitt-romney_n_1968106.html
It is obvious that having a $16 TRILLION national debt is not a coincidence.
It was created by the GOP and by design.
Judging by Willard's and his cronies business tactics, the country is ripe for the harvesting.
The GOP will continue to borrow to make their interests "mega-wealthy" and then they will move in and will bankrupt the country, ignore the debt, the money borrowed, and finally keep the wealth.
They will also blame the Democrats and start their...
Wait for it...
"Redistribution of Debt"
That means pass the national debt payments to the lil' guys. (You)
It seems to me that only the ones guilty of voter fraud or suspect that their party was, would care if it was checked out.
Liberals, your voting date has been changed to Nov 7th. You may vote as many times as you like.
If all you Liberal WHINERS would read the article it says quite clearly that the majority of people who got these notices were Republicans.
I can't imagine the GOP purposely sending notices of Ineligibilty to their own voters.
Vote early. That is the answer. Polling places are very confusing; the Ohio Secretary of State Husted told people that the polling places would be consolidated and moved, which will cause long lines and confusion on election day. In Ohio, go to the Board of Elections to vote early. Look at the BoE website and call if you need more information.
Although both Republicans and Democrats in Florida received those intimidation letters, it may have had something to do with their last names; might they be Latino? More Republicans reported the letters, but Democrats received them too.
This case illustrates what is wrong with the Citizen's United decision. Most likely next week we will see immense untraceable mass mailings similar to these. Allowing corporations and even foreign individuals to attempt to subvert the American voting process by throwing billions of Dollars into mass media is clearly the wrong idea. If anything the campaign process should be streamlined in order to cut the costs of campaigning in order to make it possible for more competition to run for office. This Presidential election season is already the most-expensive in US history by 4-5 times what the 2008 campaigns cost.
Are you as sick and tired of being relentlessly bombarded by ad after ad after ad, especially when 95% of the electorate has long ago made-up their minds? And now the dirty tricks start, this time armed with funding coffers of record size, h*ellbent on destroying what had been a long history of free and fair elections in America for personal gain involving a small minority of the electorate. If you want to lose just about all labor rights, civil rights, women's rights. environmental protection law, most of your retirement security, and take America back a century to the worst abuses of the robber baron era, go ahead and vote for Romney.
On the other hand, if you are one of the bottom 90% of Americans who earn less than $80K/year, your chances for economic fairness depend on re-electing the President, it is really simple.
putamericafirst: witchking was showing his usual humor. Don't you remember? The first tally of votes: Bush won. The second tally of votes (by a majority of dems): Bush won! The third tally of votes (again by a majority of dems): Bush Won! What! No 4the count? Must be because this time we'd get it right, which obviously means that the first 3 times were wrong (after all, the counters weren't properly educated about how to make sure the vote comes out in the dems' favor). Have to let him have his fun since he's going to be screaming again in just over a month.
1 Seattle not a GOP stronghold, more like a libtard bastion.
2. Significant majority have gone to Republican voters. So libtards try and read a little better nest time, most definitely a Demo
crat behind this. The fact that so many have piled on trying to deflect blame on to the victims just further proves this.The fact that they are already coming up excuses for the shellacking Oblamo is going to get next month only proves they know whats coming. Ok everyone had their feel good moment in 2008, only to end up with the most useless President in US history, at least Carter is happy to lose that title.
This is disturbing the teanuts are at it again in Florida ironic! They still have billboards in PA. in Spanish that say you need a I.D. to vote.PECO is also sending cards out saying the same thing,that is the major electric company in the east.GO FIGURE!!!!!!!!!
Pigotry
Excellent well thoughtout information for another illiterate liberal.
--Federal Court: Obama Appointees Interfered With Prosecution in New Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case
A federal court in Washington, D.C., ruled that a number of President Obama’s political appointees within the U.S. Department of Justice did in fact interfere with the prosecution of two New Black Panther party members who were videotaped holding a night stick and intimidating voters outside a Philadelphia voting station back in 2008.
Following a brief investigation into the 2008 New Black Panthers Case, the Department of Justice filed charges. However, the Panthers didn’t respond and a federal court in Philadelphia entered a “default” against all the defendants.
Enter Obama.
Shortly after he became president, the DOJ quickly backpedaled and the charges against three of the New Black Panther party members were dropped and a fourth was let off with a restraining order.
--This is how the Left rolls when you don't agree with them. Disgusting!!!
A Wisconsin state senator says his adult son was attacked in the early-morning hours on Friday by two men after he confronted them as they removed a Romney-Ryan sign outside his home.
State Sen. Neal Kedzie says his son, Sean, was wrestled to the ground by the two and stuck repeatedly on the head and face. A neighbor heard the commotion and managed to scare the attackers, Sean Kedzie was taken by ambulance to a nearby hospital
--Wendy Rosen, the Democratic challenger to Republican Rep. Andy Harris in the 1st Congressional District, withdrew from the race Monday amid allegations that she voted in elections in both Maryland and Florida in 2006 and 2008.
--James O’Keefe, famous for exposing ACORN’s voter registration fraud, and showing how easy it was to get Attorney General Eric Holder’s ballot in a recent election, has caught Democrat Congressmen Jim Moran’s son, Patrick Moran (his father’s field director) discussing how to commit voter fraud, including forging utility bills.
--Democratic state rep Hudson Hallum and 3 others have pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to commit election fraud during the special election that put him in the Arkansas House of Representatives in 2011. Giving away bottles of vodka and chicken for votes.
Hey Pig Ass...
Did you read the article or just paste your lefty drivel??
"significant majority have gone to Republican voters, but not exclusively.
Your fellow libbie buddies got caught...
Romney/Ryan 2012! Vote against Obama the Liar-N-Chief like your life depends on it!
Janine-1645002
And from the article:
Who ever did this got people that were registered to vote in their own party. We don't know who did it yet. I think it will be interesting to find out. I'm not convinced at all that it may have been a democrat.
Most states with voter machines also have to provide the option of a paper ballot I believe. DEMAND a paper ballot and proof that your ballot was counted. We had to do the same thing in the USVI for this year's elections because of electronic ballot machine problems and rigging.
Chris Cate can be lying or telling half truth - all of a sudden you folks are no longer skeptical of government officials and their claims? What a surprise! I thought right-wingers almost exclusively own this suspicion of government. Remember George Wmd Bush's WMD claim?
well when your message sucks as the GOP does and america dosen't want it the only way to win is to cheat. i live in florida . early voting starts on friday and i'm a democrat and low and behold, i haven't gotten my voting information from my election supervisor yet telling me where and when to vote and the sample ballot. i bet the red team got theirs already. but i'm gonna call for the hours and locations . i don't need the sample ballot. and me and my wife are gonna bank our votes early. but here's my question, why do we have to go through the voter fraud from the right every 4 years? put your message out and let ALL the people decide. or are you afraid of rejection? if your hadn't cheated in every election you would never have had a right wing president since hoover. your message is bankrupt and you know it. your party is doomed if you ever pull off your agenda. kill medicare and social security and you won't win an election untill all those people you cut off pass away. ask your paren'ts about how your grand parent's reacted to hoover. 20 years of democratic control. and that's what your staring at. maybe 30-40 if you do it right.
What idots you people ranting about republicans suppressing the vote are. Even though it has been pointed out on numerous posts that a significant majority of the letters were sent to republicans, you just can't seem to comprehend it. So, it's YOUR side trying to suppress the vote, or, based on the small number of letters received, just some jerks idea of a joke.
dji
even though I hate to make things easy for you after your frothing at the mouth comments, you can get that info online. Simpleton.
ALL instances of election fraud, regardless of whom is the perpetrator, need to be taken very seriously AND persecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The right to vote is one of the things that separates this country from being a third world, ass-backward banana republic. Anyone found guilty of committing voter fraud, should be convicted of treason. I know that sounds dramatic and over-the-top but think about it, who among us would want our vote taken away? It has already been weakened to a certain extent! Instances like sending these letters and other stunts involving voter suppression should be a signal for all of us, no matter the party affiliation, to guard against such BS. It may seem inocuous, but the reality is that it is a threat to the country.
These republican morons might not know that EVERY PRINTER has embedded code that can trace every document back to the device. I'm in information technology, and I understand why they did this - to prevent anonymous threats similar to the old days when they cut out letters from the newspapers to create a threat. It is too late; they have the letters. Burn the printer if you want; they have records of who bought it. The people that printed these letters are screwed.
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The EFF's Machine Identification Code Technology project, which has been investigating this for some time, has released the results of their success in identifying the hidden machine identification code which is printed by a Xerox DocuColor color laser printer. The results are startling, and troubling, and sure enough, the code is there. It looks like a bunch of yellow dots - a sort of printer braille, but if you know how to read them, they clearly translate to the date and printer serial number.
You can see the EFF's machine identification codes at their Machine Identification Code Technology project site.
Explains the EFF, "Imagine that every time you printed a document, it automatically included a secret code that could be used to identify the printer - and potentially, the person who used it. Sounds like something from an episode of "Alias," right? Unfortunately, the scenario isn't fictional. In a purported effort to identify counterfeiters, the US government has succeeded in persuading some color laser printer manufacturers to encode each page with identifying information.
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Funny that something that was flagged as personal invasion of privacy turns out to catch some political criminals. Booyah!!!
Wonder whos taking the fall for the republicans on this one....
I see the Voter Fraud Party (GOP) is back hard at it being a bunch of criminals. Dick Nixon would be proud.
LMAO!
No comment.
They are?
What is really incredible is how many totally brain dead people have access to computers. And, unfortunately, they also have access to voting machines come election day. Our only hope is that people who haven't had a lobotomy outnumber those who have. You figure out who I'm talking about.
Pigotry,
This is just for you and your claim about it being all President Bush's fault we went to Iraq.
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the
capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver
them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass
destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great
deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear,
chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest
security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times
since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the
U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if
appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond
effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction
programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct.
9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has
made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons
programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam
continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a
licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the
United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of
the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means
of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in
power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build
up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports
indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority
to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that
a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and
grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons
within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always
underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass
destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years,
every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy
his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has
refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also
given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ...
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to
increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep
trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity
for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly
grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And
now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his
consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam
Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
At least President Bush had the voted support of Congress before he sent troops to Iraq...President Obama bombed Libya all on his own...with no voted support from Congress. The result was a windfall for the local radical islamist who took the weapons and overthrew a stable and peaceful nation called Mali. More blow back for the President to explain.
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anyone with half a fkn brain knows it's coming from the fkn republicons. the writings on the wall. fk all republicans and their supporters too
Well here goes another one of my conspiracy theories. I bet this is an attempt by a few Republicans to commit voter intimidation and in order to make it seem plausible, these criminals sent a few of these threatening letters to Democrats and Independents - in an attempt to throw the investigators through a loop. The second part of this conspiracy is to get public sentiment to go against Democrats and force attention away from the real issues this country is facing.
You see, the trend has been for Republicans in each state to introduce strict voter laws on the basis that there is wide spread voter fraud. Republicans have become so paranoid because of the Democrats successful voter registrations drives, that they'll do anything to stop it and that means creating a crisis when in reality, there is no crisis. It's what you call the tail wagging the dog!
Man, conservatives are SLOW - we (us liberals and moderates) know what the article says - our posts are COUNTER POINTS - ever heard of those? Catch up pokies.
Being a Moderate when it comes to voting and very liberal in lifestyle - I have no doubt that both sides are corrupt - the GOP is just more persistent at it. My question is; how does one come to the conclusion that either party is above questioning?
Here goes...the left is gonna lose a fair/square election and now the accusations fly once again...lol
Many states cannot be trusted to compile verifiable lists of eligible voters. This should be a Federal responsibility and then the states can use the Federal enumerations, if they wish, instead of having to conduct their own. At least some measure of Federal oversight seems necessary, so why not give 'em the whole job? Fraud is fraud and the penalties should be intimidating.
Notsosure,
Excellent post...sadly it's a wasted effort. People like Pig have closed their mind to the facts. It's sad that people so ignorant are allowed to vote. I suppose Obama can count on the few mindless groupies to follow him around and vote for him no matter what. Also, forget the fact that while the liberal left likes to think they are "enlightened", it's easy to see how they grab for a headline about voter fraud and start salivating like a dog. You well bet they are laying the ground for another bogus claim of election stealing. Really quite sad....
I suppose y'all conveniently missed this part of the story:
Cate said a "significant majority have gone to Republican voters, but not exclusively. We've got Democrats who received the letters, we've got independents. We're telling everybody to be on the lookout
Soooooo, looks like the libbies are at fault, with just a few Dems and Independents thrown in in an attempt to "throw off the trail" any investigations!
Probably coming from Pat Moran and his fathers campaign headquarters. Wonder why msnbc hasn't publicized the behind the seen voter fraud scheme video at the Virginia Democrat Campaign Headquarters? Maybe because it wasn't Republicans?
NObama 2012!!
Wow!
Colin Powell endorses President Obama!
How does that make you feel, RWNJ's.
this country is under attack by far right wing zealots, and real Americans need to rise up and eliminate this disease
How is that not a comment?
DB Akron -
I live in your state and I welcome the increased scrutiny in Ohio! There was just too much crap in a key election:
From Wikipedia:
Representative Dennis Kucinich commented on allegations of voter suppression in Ohio during the 2004 election:
“Dirty tricks occurred across the state, including phony letters from Boards of Elections telling people that their registration through some Democratic activist groups were invalid and that Kerry voters were to report on Wednesday because of massive voter turnout. Phone calls to voters giving them erroneous polling information were also common.”
In many places, some voters had to wait several hours to vote. Ohio voters, in particular, were plagued by this issue. A study conducted by the Democratic National Committee in the summer of 2005 found that long lines forced three percent of the state's registered voters to abstain.
For example, most Ohio voters used punch-card ballots, and more than 90,000 ballots cast in Ohio were treated as not including a vote for President; this "undervote" could arise because the voter chose not to cast a vote or because of a malfunction of the punch-card system.
The 2004 election stank!
Pigotry, had you actually READ the article you would have seen the above quote, instead of just jumping down to the comments section and spew your disinformation. I dont care who is responsible, they need to be charged. By simply voting for a party, instead of the person, you are part of the problem, not the solution.
Did any of you liberal morons read the article ? The majority of the letters were sent to Republican voters, yet you still post your garbage about this being an attempt to supress votes by the right. Pigotry, you lead the class (something that I wouldn't have ever thought I'd say is class and pigotry in the same sentence), in ignorance. Go crawl back under your rock.
Some of you are really sad. You see "voter fraud" and jump to the conclusion that it's the Republicans. However in this case, it is someone from the liberal side sending these out. wtsp.com/news/article/279560/8/FBI-joins-Floridas-voter-letter-fraud-investigation
What's comical is that the dems, ACLU, and NAACP have roped UN election monitors to come in and "monitor" conservatives during the election. Wonder if they will be "monitoring" the black panthers and other radical leftist groups?
I thought this was going to be an article about the "New Black Panthers".
To those claiming this is a Republican stunt - did you even read past the headline?
Nope.
Didn't think so.
why do you dems oppose voter i.d.? it makes no sense to cry unless you are having something illegal going on and voter i.d. would put a stop to it. if you dems don't get it if obama is elected we will be one step closer to becoming a third world country since the redistibution of wealth will only last as long as the wealthy stay in the u.s.a.. then it will have to come from you people or middle class to take care of the poor which you already do somewhat then you will run out of money and we become a broken country and the u.s.a. belongs to commy china you dems are really dim lol
Tenn,
What a loon! Isn't the SAME Colin Powell that stood up in front of the world and claimed that Iraq had WMD?? The same WMD that you CLAIM don't exist?? Talk about people that can't see the hyporcrisy in who endorses you... So which is it?? And just so you know...the troop pullout plan for Iraq was planned BEFORE Obama got into office.
Piggy, Why don’t you try actually reading the story before spouting nonsense…
Now, if the republicans were trying to suppress the democratic vote why would they send a “significant majority” of these bogus letters to republicans?
Quotes from WIKIPEDIA! LOL !!
That does seem odd, doesn't?
It's odd if you didn't know that Republican strategist, Karl Rove, has done this very thing in the past. He's bugged his own office to make it look like he was being spied on. He has stolen Democratic letterhead paper to send out malicious documents. He invented "Swiftboating" the opposition, along with many, many other dirty political techniques.
This all-too-obvious campaign is blatantly constructed to look like a dirty Democratic trick, when in fact, it's a clever, dirty trick by the Republicans to get the necessary electoral college votes in Florida. Just like they did with the 2000 election where Al Gore won the popular vote (Gore 48.4% - Bush 47.9%- Nader 2.74%) but still lost to George W. Bush due to Florida's voting scandal netting Bush 25 Electoral College votes. We all know what a deep hole George W. dug us into.
But hey, I'm open to see what the investigators find. If it is an overzealous Obama supporter, it was very, very stupid. In any event, I hope they prosecute to the full extent of the law.
Lots of comments restored. Not these:
Bryan-2475629, cantakenomore, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
It's disturbing that GOP tries to steal this election again the same way they did in 2000 in Florida.
How on earth could they steal the election by getting Republicans not to vote? Read the article again. They very clearly say that most of the letters were sent to Republicans.
Um, did you fail to read that the bulk of these letters went to republican voters?
No, we didn't fail to realize where most of these letters went. That is part of their downfall, a massive attempt to try to minimalize the news in the past couple of weeks, where the republican party has indeed been culpable. Most people with even a marginal IQ aren't believing the democrats are shooting themselves in the foot with this.
Ambassador Stevens died, and Obama lies, and the cover-up continues. Obama the American people have a right to know! Have a press conference!
This was not a voter fraud scam.
This was a very sophisticated monetary phishing scam masquarading as a voter fraud scam.
The whole purpose was to get people to divulge their social security numbers and their drivers license numbers.
Couple those with the persons address which the scammers already had and they had all they needed for identity theft.
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We find out in the LAST paragraph of this article that these letters were meant to Suppress REPUBLICAN VOTER Turn Out.
Had the tables been turned, it would have been the HEADLINE!
Cate said a "significant majority have gone to Republican voters, but not exclusively. We've got Democrats who received the letters, we've got independents. We're telling everybody to be on the lookout."
Bush lied. Thousands died.
Bigotry--it went out to a majority of registered Republicans.
PIGOTRY: Did you read that a majority of the letters went to Republicans, so how do you figure the GOP is trying to steal this? Is it also the GOP that ran the ELECTION RESULTS ON A CBS AFFILIATE...TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION? Yes, the ELECTION RESULTS, SHOWING OBAMA WINNING WITH 40M+ VOTES TO ROMNEY'S 38M+. Are we still a Democracy, or are you content with a dictatorship? How brainwashed are you?
Here's a link to the video:
Gee, Donna, isn't it obvious? Its a republican ploy to make themselves look less guilty with the past news releases. Nobody is believing the democrats would be stupid enough to do this.
The letters were sent to both Republicans and Democrats, and it is not known how many letters were sent, those are just the people who complained. Since this letter went to people in both Parties, what could be the reason... their last name? Could it be an attack on Latinos maybe? Both Republicans and Democrats received these letters, but the article said that many more people probably received the letters than those who complained.
Apparently you can't read. Article states majority of voters that got letters were Republican.
Now it looks like your side has decided to defraud Americans of a vote...
Collapse my post before I could even post it?
Old Timer-88224
This case illustrates what is wrong with the Citizen's United decision. Most likely next week we will see immense untraceable mass mailings similar to these all over America. Allowing corporations and even foreign individuals to attempt to subvert the American voting process by throwing billions of Dollars into mass media is clearly the wrong idea. If anything the campaign process should be streamlined in order to cut the costs of campaigning in order to make it possible for more competition to run for office. This Presidential election season is already the most-expensive in US history by 4-5 times what the 2008 campaigns cost.
Are you as sick and tired of being relentlessly bombarded by ad after ad after ad, especially when 95% of the electorate has long ago made-up their minds? And now the dirty tricks start, this time armed with funding coffers of record size, h*ellbent on destroying what had been a long history of free and fair elections in America for personal gain involving a small minority of the electorate. If you want to lose just about all labor rights, civil rights, women's rights. environmental protection law, most of your retirement security, and take America back a century to the worst abuses of the robber baron era, go ahead and vote for Romney.
On the other hand, if you are one of the bottom 90% of Americans who earn less than $80K/year, your chances for economic fairness depend on re-electing the President, it is really simple.
#1.47 - Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:42 PM MDT
No wonder our country is in a mess.....PEOPLE CAN'T READ but yet blame a political party for the letters.
For those who are blaming a political party......GROW UP !!!
Pig and haggisbingo-2225582
You libs make me LAUGH, you didn't even read the article....
Cate said a "significant majority have gone to Republican voters, but not exclusively. We've got Democrats who received the letters, we've got independents. We're telling everybody to be on the lookout."
It seems to me that only the ones guilty of voter fraud or suspect that their party was, would care if it was checked out.
Suits me fine for voter fraud to be examined. I doubt that independents are guilty of much voter fraud but if they are, they should be jailed and everyone who got elected illegally, as well.
I agree with UnitedStates - this sounds more like a phishing scam. The letters were sent out primarily to Republicans? In the state of Florida, I wouldn't expect hispanic residents to be primarily Republican, at least not this election term. Of course, one detail which would be very helpful to know, yet the article doesn't tell us, is whether the recipients were primarily of any specific ethnic group. It does tell us some have been voting for years. It sounds like the letters are going to people registered to vote, meaning the perpetrator might know if they are registered as a Republican or Democrat. Although the perpetrator might have a secondary motive of intimidating people out of voting, the fact that some recipients are Democrats and Independents, and that most are Republican, receiving letters questioning their citizenship status, gives me the impression the primary prupose was to get more personal information. They were given 15 days to contest it. How were they supposed to do this? What information was requested on the enclosed Voter Eligibility Form? So close to the election, and with the candidates being so closely tied in this particular Presidential race, I suspect the scammer figured people would be most likely to fill out the form and return it, so they could cast their vote.
This reminds me of the gay guy who bashed his face into the sidewalk and blamed it on three "homophobes"
Or the lesbian who mutilated herself and said she was attacked by a "homophobe"
Of course the the libs are gonna rush to the conclusion that it is the Republicans, even thought they have no proof or evidence to support this claim. It can just as easily be a liberal tactic used to bolster the idea that the "GOP is suppressing votes! See, these letters prove it!"
Less then 100 letters have been reported. I highly doubt that will drastically alter the course of the election. If it we're in the area of 10 - 20 thousand, it might have had an effect. But less than a 100. Ya, it can easily be a liberal trying to create a false notion of "GOP voter suppression."
But lets see after an arrest is actually made. Of course pigotry has already jumped to his conclusion before any real information has been revealed. I'm sure fiesty has made up her mind as well.
They probably got a discount when they made the copies at Staples.
the polls show romney taking the lead...as he should...we dont need nor can we survive 4 more years of oidiot in the white house. he has proven to everyone that he cannot turn this country around. he is not a leader///he is not repected in the world community And he has not lived up to his promises. everyone thought that with oidiot in that the world would once again respect america...it has backfired...and oidiot recently made it much worse with his lies about the libian attack. hes a decent guy... a good family man...but he is not a leader. thats why its time for oidiot out...and romney in.
Come to think of it, joe lieberman has always been a fraud. First he ran as a republican, then as an independent? Everyone knows that jews are democrats, right?
This is clearly Dems trying to steal votes. The story stated that the letters came from Seattle, WA. A highly Democratic city which if you remember just a few years back stole the election from Rossi and gave it to Gregoire. This is where they had Rossi win the election by less than 1000 votes so the Dems came in and demanded a recount, which Rossi won, so then they demanded another recount, which Rossi again won but somehow Gregoire's numbers were higher, so then they demanded a third recount, which magically Gregoire won. At that time, I wasn't Democrat or Republican, I was undecided. The crooked back stabbing lying ways of the democraps up here is what made my mind up for me. I also find it funny that a democratic congressman's son was just caught telling someone on video (look up Moran caught in Virginia voter fraud) how to make phony utility bills so that they could go vote fraudulently for Obama and somehow it isn't front page news. If anyone in the Romney/Ryan campaign doesn't say excuse me when they sneeze, cough, or belch then the media rakes them over the coals!!! Lots of dead people voting for the democratic party again. Same ol' same ol'!!!!!
Pigotry, your ignorance is amazing to the point of complete and total embarassment for yourself and your party, congratulations.
Pigotry, were you born stupid or that something you picked up form your parents? This is obviously a liberal attempt to discorage voters from voting for Romney. I hope they are caught and put away for life. With Holder in charge of the justice department though, he probably executed the plan.
Pigotry et al <<<~~~~~>>> In Florida in 2000 and again in 2004, the left leaning media yelled, hollered, kicked, beat their chests and threw all kinds of tantrums screaming that the GOP stole the election(s). They printed all these inflammable charges in their newspapers in BIG BLACK PRINT, above the fold on the front page, spewing out thousands and thousands of words of indignation. After the votes were officially counted, after the Supreme Court of the United States delared the GOP had won, the ballots were given over to the journalists to count for themselves, their very own selves. They pounced onto those ballots like a suicide bomber pouncing on his 72 virgins. <<<******>>> Guess What !!! The GOP WON! WON! WON! The media had the integrity (both times) to admit the GOP had won (both times). This information was printed (both times) in a few hundred words in the back pages of the newspapers, below the fold. Now, I am going to go out on a limb and predict that this little show is going to have a third rerun in 2012 and that sheeple like you are going to scream your heads off a third time about the stolen erection ...er,...uh...election. ,.,.,.,.,.,. LIVE LONG AND PROSPER !!!
Yep, I suspect that the ones squealing the loudest know they are guilty and might be found out.
Hey piginatree, comprehension a little slow today?
wow..you right-wingers have just had a total makeover??? I thought skepticism toward government and officials defines you - as it turns out you folks are total fraud? As it turns out you totally believe in government lies and the whole WMD stuff.
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Besides, if the letter are sent from Seattle, those fraud might not know accurate info about all the democrats their addresses, so a few letter went to some Republicans...it's still a fraud, and against democrats and minorities.
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So those fraudulent right-wingers' mistake has become your weapon to justify your denials?
Yes those bastard Republicans sending "no vote for you" mail to their own. >sarc off<
The Diebold electronic voting machines with no paper trail were first used in Florida in 2000.
Yes. Something very strange happened in Volusia County on election night November 2000, the night that first Gore won Florida, then Bush, and then as everybody can so well remember there was a tie.
Something strange indeed. But what exactly? In the above report ( click for full version), written days after the election, hotshot Washington Post reporter Dana Milbank goes on to attribute the strange 16,022 negative vote tally from Volusia's precinct 216 to an apparently innocent cause.
"…. faulty 'memory cards' in the machines caused the 16,000-vote disappearance on election night. The glitch was soon fixed," he wrote.
But thanks to recent investigations into Black Box Voting by Washington State writer Bev Harris we now know this explanation is not correct. In fact it is not even in the ballpark.
According to recently discovered internal Diebold Election Systems memos, Global Election Systems' (which was later purchased by Diebold) own technical staff were also stumped by the events in Volusia County/
In Chapter 11 of her new book "Black Box Voting In the 21st Century" released early today in .PDF format at Blackboxvoting.com and here at Scoop Ms Harris observes.
Miss Piggy <<<~~~~~~~~~~>>> ROTFLMFASO !!!
Pigotry,
You have no idea just like your party. Seattle is almost 100% Democrat...we know since the rest of the state east of the Cascades is almost 100% Republican...we have been treated like Seattle's step child for years. How about a little sunshine on you blindness in regards to WMD...here you go again.
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the
capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver
them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass
destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great
deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear,
chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest
security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times
since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the
U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if
appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond
effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction
programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct.
9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has
made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons
programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs
continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam
continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a
licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the
United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of
the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means
of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in
power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build
up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports
indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority
to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that
a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and
grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons
within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always
underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass
destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years,
every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy
his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has
refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also
given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ...
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to
increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep
trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity
for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly
grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And
now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his
consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam
Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
No comprehension again.
Notsosure, I regret that I have but one Thumbs Up to give to you, my friend.
That is soooo true. My thumbs up for you as well.
I love when right wingers try to invoke the US Constitution and say we need to get back to Constitutional principles.
That's like Rush limbaugh saying we need to get into physical fitness..
Or donald trunp saying we need to get back to non-ridiculous looking haircuts
or like when obama promised to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term, yet almost tripled it...... :/
obama = EPIC FAIL!!!
R/R2012 to save America's future for our children & grand-children
republican Congress=EPIC FAIL R&R will only ship your children's and grand children's future to China. Do the right thing for your children and grandchildren vote Obama/Biden and a straight democratic ticket. My family intends to.
Hey Common, I love it when dumb people or should I say idiots vote. It only makes this great country worse. I love it LOL. The Dumbocrats have no idea how to run a country, oh that is right, they have to get a Kenyan to act like or lie that he is a US Citizen. LOL. Any Dumbocrats believe it. We really need to collapse to get things right again. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Really Rick? Let it go - even Trump couldn't disprove the fact the President is an American citizen. It is one thing to talk about the real issues, but get over it already!
You wouldn't know what the constitution said if it hit you in the butt.
Or a Democrat saying we need to start telling the truth.
Hey Rick, you shouldn't talk about yourself that way. If President wasn't American, he would of been gone along time ago. At least the Democrats believe everyone is equal no matter the color of your skin, your gender & if you are a dumb or an idiot.
How about the republicians telling the truth also..of I forgot facts don't matter to them.
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Yep, guilty dog barks first.
unoitall.. bad name for you since you really don't know S%$#
you also need to check those facts about the deficit tell us all what it was the day POTUS was sworn in...your math is exactly like Paul dummy Ryan
I'm not sure it is "voter fraud" -- notice the "return" with personal information. Could be very simple identity theft.
Pigotry
Did you read the story? They said the majority of the letters went to Republicans. Just like desperate libs to try to influence the election this late in the game.
Common Sense- 4 U
I love it when some ignorant left winger says he loves it in an attempt to spin his agenda.
Yes those bastard Republicans sending "no vote for you" mail to their own. >sarc off<
maxgiver
#3.11
Sorry, the best I could do was debt the day before Bush took office.
01/19/2001
$5,727,776,738,304.64
HERE'S THE ANSWER FOLKS - Remember how the GOP has disposed of Democratic
registrations with the firm they just fired because they got caught. The same firm that was in question during
Bush's elections. This time is as easy as a switch on a database and POOF all ID's are gone.
In Colorado, about 800 people whose registrations were lost and they may have as
many as 10,000 people who think they are registered but may not be. All because
the Republican Secretary of State Scott Gessler lured new registrars to his site
and now mysteriously lost lots of them.
We were warned that the Sheldon Adelson and Koch brothers would open up the
financial floodgates in the last two weeks. They have already been busted twice
in the last month with voter registration fraud. Next, they will do like in
2000 and 2004 and try actual voter intimidation at the polls.
The last line of defense is Tagg Romney, who bought the company that owns the
voting machines in Ohio. It's the GOP that has really been a fraud in voting.
It's in the news in late September about a GOP consulting firm - Strategic
Allied Consulting. Google 'Strategic Allied Consulting.' and you will find out more about this vast right wing
conspiracy - last time in 2000 such conspiracy was backed up by the Supreme
Court. They also sent out letters in 2004 to residents telling them to go to the wrong voting locations.
This time it would be the Republican party trying to make democrats look bad, to minimize the damage we have seen by the republican party in the last couple of weeks? And the link that repubs
on this thread are posting are fraudulent. -this link shows why -
Over 200 years of voting and as little as 0.01% actual "DOCUMENTED" voter
fraud and we have to show ID because the right wing has made up this perception
of rampant fraud while committing election fraud themselves. Gotta love it.
The Diebold voting machines with no paper trail were first used in Florida in 2000.
Yes. Something very strange happened in Volusia County on election night November 2000, the night that first Gore won Florida, then Bush, and then as everybody can so well remember there was a tie.
Something strange indeed. But what exactly? In the above report ( click for full version), written days after the election, hotshot Washington Post reporter Dana Milbank goes on to attribute the strange 16,022 negative vote tally from Volusia's precinct 216 to an apparently innocent cause.
"…. faulty 'memory cards' in the machines caused the 16,000-vote disappearance on election night. The glitch was soon fixed," he wrote.
But thanks to recent investigations into Black Box Voting by Washington State writer Bev Harris we now know this explanation is not correct. In fact it is not even in the ballpark.
According to recently discovered internal Diebold Election Systems memos, Global Election Systems' (which was later purchased by Diebold) own technical staff were also stumped by the events in Volusia County/
In Chapter 11 of her new book "Black Box Voting In the 21st Century" released early today in .PDF format at Blackboxvoting.com and here at Scoop Ms Harris observes.
This will go down as one of the most fraudulent elections in U.S. history.
To better express my feelings:
http://www.gifbin.com/bin/florida.gif
We still remember the hanging chads with the votes not counted and the BS that goes along with it.
Please list all the times "desperate libs" have tried to commit voting fraud in the past.
The Democrats don't need to send out letters to cheat they have all the illegals and the dead voters on there side. hell they won before the polls open.
Ok I haven't read through all the comments to see if anyone has posted this, a petition from Presente.org telling the Pennsylvania Dept. of Commonwealth and Clear Channel to take down voter suppressive billboards immediately:
http:act.presente.org/sign/pasigns/
The billboards refer to a law suspended by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.
Sign it and pass it on.
Well here goes another one of my conspiracy theories. I bet this is an attempt by a few Republicans to commit voter intimidation and in order to make it seem plausible, these criminals sent a few of these threatening letters to Democrats and Independents - in an attempt to throw the investigators through a loop. The second part of this conspiracy is to get public sentiment to go against Democrats and force attention away from the real issues this country is facing.
You see, the trend has been for Republicans in each state to introduce strict voter laws on the basis that there is wide spread voter fraud. Republicans have become so paranoid because of the Democrats successful voter registrations drives, that they'll do anything to stop it and that means creating a crisis when in reality, there is no crisis. It's what you call the tail wagging the dog!
Good old america hating gop is at it again. and their base still votes for them. you republicans don't deserve America. shame on you. trying to steal grandma's vote. her social security, her food stamps and even her medicare. God is watching you.
I wish more Americans would read and understand George Washington's Farewell Address and his warnings about political parties. We haven't had a choice for the best man for the job and it shows. If you are patriotic to a party then you are sheeple. We need independents, not party liners and special interest supporters. Our Constitution does not have protections and outlines for political parties but you can bet either a Republican or Democrat will win. How many more elections before we figure out that all of our divisions and problems revolve around the parties holding office and put an end to it. We are a government for the people and not a party. Its time to ensure that Independent Americans can get in office and not have to do what a party says to do and start voting for US and whats best for the people and our country. We should be united and determined to solve our nations problems now and not waiting to see who will be elected. Most of those in office now ran on promising to reach across the aisle and make Bipartisan solutions, not get in office and wait for a stacked deck. Wake up and support those Independents that will make decisions for US, the people.
All of the lies you democrats have told about republicans trying to stop you from voting is comming to light now! You idiots obviously cannot read! It says mostly REPUBLCIANS got these letters! Are you now trying to say that republicans were trying to hide the fact that they don't want democrats to vote by sending scare tactic letters to there own voters! How far fetched can you get????????????? This has all been LIEs from the beginning! What has always been NORMAL is for people to NOT be allowed to vote if they don't have there voter registration cards. NORMAL! Everyone knows this! Its like not being allowed to drive without a drivers license or get a job without a social security card! Things have to be fair and it is NOT fair for you to vote without your voter registration card or at the wrong precint! I went to the wrong precint before and was pointed to the correct one. Why didn't I throw a fit and call the police and try to cause trouble because I'm to lazy to do things the RIGHT WAY! We have to have rules or your throwing out the rules for everyone and that would include the republicans. My son is old enough to vote now so we made sure to get his application in on time and we know where we need to go to vote. How hard is that??? If your too stupid to do it the right way then you are to stupid to vote!
On the news the other day, they showed cards being sent to voters in CO. Two different cards - one in English and one in Spanish. Just one problem - on the English version it said "Vote on Election Day, November 6, 2012". On the Spanish version of the same card, it said, in Spanish "Vote on Election Day, November 8, 2012".
I'm surprised people immediately think the reason behind these letters is intimidation. I don't believe it is voter intimidation. While sure states should use that legal tool to go after these people and investigate the letters, I think the mark is much simpler.
That screams phishing scam for people's information. Especially since it's post marked in Seattle, a large city as far away from Florida as one can get in the continental US. If you think there is absolutely no credence to this, then I know a few Nigerian Princes that need your bank account information to transfer money out of Africa.
The Obama campaign has finally released the transcript of his endorsement interview with the Des Moines Register–and it is clear why they were reluctant to do so: the President says he has “absolutely” no regrets about ignoring the economy during the first two years of his term, when Democrats controlled Congress.
Here is the key part of the exchange:
Q: Yes, that begs a question from us, Mr. President. Some say you had a super majority in your first two years and had this incredible opportunity, but because of what you were talking about, as you were running, you had to go to get Obamacare done. Do you have any regrets taking on some of the economic issues, some of the issues that we’re talking about for your second term, that when you had the chance, so to speak, during your first — do you have any regrets that you didn’t do that at that time?
THE PRESIDENT: Absolutely not, Laura. Remember the context. First of all, Mitch McConnell has imposed an ironclad filibuster from the first day I was in office. And that’s not speculation. I mean, this is — it’s amply recorded. He gave a speech saying, my task is to defeat the President.
So we were able to pass emergency action with the stimulus, but we had to get two votes from Republicans…
Obama’s response is misleading. Republicans made no such filibuster threat at the outset of his first term. He refers to remarks made by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in late 2010, not in late 2008 or early 2009. Republicans made no such threat, and in fact attempted to work together with the then-popular Obama.
Read more: http://patriotupdate.com/31520/obama-absolutely-no-regrets-for-ignoring-economy-for-first-two-years#ixzz2AGIAO0er
niece1964,
Thank you for making the Democratic Electorates point. Why do Republican States insist on the need for a Drivers License or Social Security card or Voter I.D. Card to vote. I mean the one the thing that makes our country so appealing is that you can vote and no one would know how you voted, who you were... complete anonymity! Now, if we were some third world country in Africa, Asia, or South America that had a dubious voting rights history...then Republicans might just have an argument. When the vote is determined on the basis of millions, like it is here in the U.S., it makes it hard for anyone to claim fraud of that scale. Voter fraud, to the extent that the Republican Party was claiming in 2008 was investigated by the press and the Federal Elections Commission and guess what they found:
So, basically, all Republicans have managed to do was intimidate, misinform and outright lie to the themselves and the American Electorate. As a Republican party, you are archaic and inept! People who support an archaic and inept Republican party, deserve 4 more years of Obama/Biden and 8 years of Hillary Clinton! How's them apples?
The hatred displayed in the last days of this campaign is alarming. What about this intelligent, thoughtful President is so deserving of such vitriol?
I fear hate may win on Nov 6.
@ Antha - well said! I don't get it either, and share your fears.
There was an article in Vanity Fair a month ago or so that detailed just how thoughtfully President Obama makes his decisions. . . .
here's the link:
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/10/michael-lewis-profile-barack-obama
I have been voting for more than 40 years, and have seen my share of politicians 'change their minds' to win votes. But I have NEVER seen anything like R & R who will say absolutely anything to get votes & grab power.
There was a guy some months back who said all the Repug's needed was a guy in the White House with enough working digits to sign their agenda into law . . . but they have changed it so many times! Ryan today preaching about suddenly caring about the 47%, when his budget would cut programs drastically for those very people.
scary indeed.
VOTE O & JOE!
Hate will never win if Democrats get out and vote! The hate mongering Republican Party IS evil and must be destroyed.
Hate is all the democrat party is about. Just look at your post. It is fear, lies and hate that drives the democrat party. Just look at the election ads.
You got to be on something BigAlVegas! It's always a Democrat that wants to give illegals the drivers license so they can get through the voter line! Democrats don't even care if legal citizens work, or go to college! They want to help, all the people of the world who have a "Dream", forgetting about the children of legal citizens who can't get a good job, or get a seat in a classroom.
You must be a Democratic Socialist yourself!
Um, did you fail to read that the bulk of these letters went to republican voters?
Romney Ryan 2012, and beyond!
miss piggy most letters went to republicans. so what the hell are you talking about? oh thats right you dont know.
Dave,
Piggy goes on mindless rants no matter what the story is about.
PutAmericaFirst
Have you noticed that the only people, other than you, are a bunch of liberal trolls trying to convince each other to keep that buffoon in the White House.
NObama 2012!!
Not if we all get out and vote. Hopefully we can keep these two idiots out of the White House.
HTC what are you talking about? Thinking you are the one who just might be on something!
Alot of these post would not be here if they had to talk face to face. Unfortunatly the enternet allows posters spill their mindless hate without facing who they attact
@BigAl Las Vegas Staunch liberals are some of the most passive-aggressively hateful people on the planet.
My dad once told me the dumbest person in the room is the
one who thinks he is the smartest and the second dumbest is the person who
believes him. This pretty well sums up O
and Joe. I keep hearing about how intelligent
and thoughtful President Obama is but other than a couple of autobiographies (and
most critical readers agree they are not that well written) and anecdotal
reflections of his thought process from second and third party writers there is
no factual volume giving us insight into his true depth of thought or
intelligence. So please, don’t give me
any more drivel, or should I say malarkey to quote the other great thinker that the dems worship, about
him being the smartest President we have ever had. Show me some proof.
HERE'S THE ANSWER FOLKS - Remember how the GOP has disposed of Democratic
registrations with the firm they just fired because they got caught. The same firm that was in question during
Bush's elections. This time is as easy as a switch on a database and POOF all ID's are gone.
In Colorado, about 800 people whose registrations were lost and they may have as
many as 10,000 people who think they are registered but may not be. All because
the Republican Secretary of State Scott Gessler lured new registrars to his site
and now mysteriously lost lots of them.
We were warned that the Sheldon Adelson and Koch brothers would open up the
financial floodgates in the last two weeks. They have already been busted twice
in the last month with voter registration fraud. Next, they will do like in
2000 and 2004 and try actual voter intimidation at the polls.
The last line of defense is Tagg Romney, who bought the company that owns the
voting machines in Ohio. It's the GOP that has really been a fraud in voting.
It's in the news in late September about a GOP consulting firm - Strategic
Allied Consulting. Google 'Strategic Allied Consulting.' and you will find out more about this vast right wing
conspiracy - last time in 2000 such conspiracy was backed up by the Supreme
Court. They also sent out letters in 2004 to residents telling them to go to the wrong voting locations.
This time it would be the Republican party trying to make democrats look bad, to minimize the damage we have seen by the republican party in the last couple of weeks? And the link that repubs
on this thread are posting are fraudulent. -this link shows why -
Over 200 years of voting and as little as 0.01% actual "DOCUMENTED" voter
fraud and we have to show ID because the right wing has made up this perception
of rampant fraud while committing election fraud themselves. Gotta love it.
I love how people cry about the ID law that was passed. I see no problem with having people show an ID at the polls. If someone wants to vote and they don't have an ID then go get one, what's the big deal, they had it where you can get your ID for free. I don't want to hear that there's people that can't get one, if they can't get one then stop crying and find away or don't vote.
I don't know how well Romney/Ryan will do to this country, but I know that lots of senators in their party are sick in the mind and that worries a lot. You judge someone based on the group they are with and this is an age old method that still stand true.
Just earlier, a Republican senator said pregnancy through rape is "god's work", this means that God intended for people to get rape in order to get pregnant. This also mean that rape is considered acceptable and people need to thanks God and the RAPIST for receiving them.
It's amazing that so many people are still wow'ed by Obama. Perhaps they should take off their rose colored glasses and the see the man that everyone else sees. We someone that hasn't kept his promises, runs a campaign based on negative ads (where is HIS agenda??, where is HIS accomplishments??). So tonight now we see him yet again kissing up to his Hollywood friends acting like he is some hero that is supposed to be worshipped. Add to that, now we find yet another big donor giving yet another MILLION dollars to the Obama campaign. Well...it's easy to see where that big money is going to...sad...really...
I can't believe how many people can't read!!! I'm over here just out of my mind with worry at the thought that the crazy people on here posting about GOP trying to steal the vote are going to be allowed to vote! This article said THE MAJORITY OF THE LETTERS WENT TO REPUBLICANS!!!! WHY would they send them to there own voters??? You and your democRAT friends have told this lie so much you can't realize this article is bacially pointing to the fact that if these letters were sent by anyone it was DEMOCRATS!!!!!! They are the cheaters and have been ALLLLL along!!! They point the finger and try to pin things on people especially things that THEY have done! The libs started the idea that all republicans are against gays, women, blacks, latinos, abortions! Who started this??? It sure wasn't a republican!!! ITS ALL LIES!!!! I know no liberals only conservatives and not one of them have any of them are like that! They will say anything to get your vote and thats it!!!! So sick of the lies!!!!!!!!!!!
If I was the GOP I would have done it the same way, send letters to the GOP voters and then bring the letters to light and blame the Democrats, but really nothing is going to change the GOP started by trying to suppress the votes and now they want to cry fowl, they cheated before and they will always do it that a fact, now when confronted by their own tactics they whine like little girls, well there is a saying what goes around comes around, now suck it up.
I thought you had to lie to be successful in politics... I don't understand where the big surprise is...
Vote for more jobs for people from India and China. Romney's plan: Allow 1.25 million High Tech workers to immigrate claiming a shortage in those sectors even though unemployment in those sectors are double what they were prior to the Bush meltdown. He claims these new immigrants will create support jobs for Americans. Like selling them big macs and ringing up their purchases at Wal Mart. He also wants to eliminate caps on H1B visa's. Romney even said he wanted to staple a green card to the diploma's of those in the top 20% of their class in foreign countries in the 2nd debate. Do you people realise how such a plan would affect future graduates?
Result: Graduating American students will not only have to compete with fellow students from our Universities and Colleges but millions of top students from around the world willing to work for far less. Net result will be lower pay for all upper income jobs including Doctors, Dentists, Architects, Engineers, Teachers, Accountants and many others. Electing a vulture capitalist may mean 12 million new jobs but they'll go to imported workers. Don't be fooled.
Al Franken was put into office by 1099 felons that voted illegally in an election that was decided by less than 300 votes. More than 200 of them were convicted of voter fraud.
Mississippi NAACP leader sent to prison for 10 counts of voter fraud
By Matthew Vadum - 7/29/2011
While NAACP President Benjamin Jealous lashed out at new state laws requiring photo ID for voting, an NAACP executive sits in prison, sentenced for carrying out a massive voter fraud scheme.
In a story ignored by the national media, in April a Tunica County, Miss., jury convicted NAACP official Lessadolla Sowers on 10 counts of fraudulently casting absentee ballots. Sowers is identified on an NAACP website as a member of the Tunica County NAACP Executive Committee.
Sowers received a five-year prison term for each of the 10 counts, but Circuit Court Judge Charles Webster permitted Sowers to serve those terms concurrently, according to the Tunica Times, the only media outlet to cover the sentencing.
“This crime cuts against the fabric of our free society,” Judge Webster said.
Sowers was found guilty of voting in the names of Carrie Collins, Walter Howard, Sheena Shelton, Alberta Pickett, Draper Cotton and Eddie Davis. She was also convicted of voting in the names of four dead persons: James L. Young, Dora Price, Dorothy Harris, and David Ross.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/29/mississippi-naacp-leader-sent-to-prison-for-10-counts-of-voter-fraud/#ixzz23hzDhseR
This is just as bad as the new black panther party members hanging out at polling stations in PA..
Hmm.., sent mostly to Republicans and sent from liberal Seattle.
Republican party has become exactly like it is portrayed on The Simpsons - bunch of evil rich bastards manipulating the entire country.
How are they manipulating the whole country by sending letters to Republicans?
Seattle eh? A bastion of Right Wing Conservatism!
Desperate times call for desperate measures. The Radical Left Wing Liberal/Progressive Wack Job train has come off the tracks! Listening to nut cases like Chris Matthews losing it speaks volumes of how hysterical the Left has become with the realization Obama and Biden are not only going to lose but lose in a very big way.
seejames, and the rest of the Dems blaming Republicans for this.. PLEASE LEARN HOW TO READ AN ARTICLE BEFORE YOU SPEW YOUR CRAP.. It says that a majority of the threatening letters went to REPUBLICANS.. This is a close race and of course now that Romney is coming up in the polls (which I think are crap) Dems are getting nervous.. The letters were sent to all Political parties, even undecided/independents, with the MAJORITY going to Republicans.. I know it's hard to believe but you Libs have some extremists on your side as well.. So..
Come on people, lets not have facts distorting the lies told by the Obama administration. You can bet if the feds investigate these letters as effectively as they have investigated Fast and Furious nothing will be found. While Romney is laying out a vision for the nation, Obama is laying an egg. We tried Obama, he failed, it is time to move on.
If Obama and Biden lose, America will lose in a very big way. It will have elected a man with no CORE.
Does anyone know the REAL Romney? Romney wants to be President. This would be a wonderful family crest. He doesn't really give a flying leap about you or me. He is an empty vessel and God knows Rove, Norquist and the Koch Brothers will be calling the shots. God help all of us if he wins. Take a minute and honestly ask yourself what you know about this man? I know he's rich, loves his family and his church. I also know that he traveled to China in 1998 and shortly afterwards, Bain started closing down businesses they owned and shipped the jobs overseas. I know this man would do anything not to show his tax returns....other candidates have. Why has he steadfastly refused? I always believed in Americans and their sense of fair play. If Romney/Ryan win, that belief will be gone forever. Knowing just how little we really know about this etch-a-sketch, working digits plutocrat, flip flopping man, America just might elect him. All the economists say that in, all probability, within the next 4 years, America will be back on its feet. We have made progress, slowly but surely. Elect Romney and Ryan and Romney will have his taxes decreased and Ryan will have women dying from using coat hangers....nothing more! I'm praying for America and Americans had better start.
To those wondering about why mostly republicans got the letters - it's mostly republicans who have reported receiving them. The new citizens who got them and is likely to vote democratic probably is scared to report it. That's why it is called voter intimidation.
should the fed be investigating Joe Biden's brother and his contracting firm being award a billion + $ contract in Iraq????
How many people really think this was not a GOP slide of hand, come on you would have to be a MORON not to see the play, they got caught on trying to rig the votes there in FL. and now to take the attention away from that they have created the BS scam, the GOP is the Evil Empire here in America. We need to get them out of our Government.
Larry,
Aren't you the naive one. Everyone is running around buying their iPhones and iPads by a company that people "love" but their products are made in China. Until people's attitude and commitment to want to buy "American" change, blaming someone like Romney is just plain dumb.
Sam,
The only people that believe your "assertion" are loons from the left. And while you are at...here's an update...contrary to the liberal left mantra, no election was "stolen". Although, given how badly Obama is doing right now in the polls I'm sure we will see Black Panthers hanging out at the voting booths telling people to go home...
hs- Nice try on the Franken thing but that ship sailed years ago. Norm Coleman's team OBSERVED the recount and AGREED THERE WAS NO FRAUD!!!
I swear, I have never seen such vitriol, such stretching of the truth, so many outright lies, and now, so many instances of voter suppression/intimidation efforts as I've seen with this election cycle!
And, while there is plenty of blame to go around on both sides, the vast majority seems to be perpetuated by the extreme right wing of the Republican Party (the Tea Party, the various super-pacs led by knuckle-draggers such as Karl Rove and the Koch brothers). And I have no doubt that, even though the haters will never admit it, it's their own deep-seeded racial/social prejudice that may have something to do with it.
At any rate, I'll be so freaking happy once this election is over with! It's obvious to anyone who follows how politics is done that no matter who wins, we will not pay down the current deficit, we will not create the millions of jobs needed for a healthy economy, we will not come down hard on American companies who outsource jobs, we will not do ANYTHING about China's blatant currency manipulation and trade practices, we will NOT make every effort needed to become less dependent on foreign energy sources. All that will happen, in the next four years, is more bickering, more polarizing, more of one side stonewalling the other in Congress.
That's why I'm voting Libertarian this year!
You shacking in your boots because someone is standing in their own neighborhood wearing a beret?
What a man !!!!
antha: You lost me when you said THIS thoughtful, intelligent President. What has he done that's been thoughtful or intelligent? What has he done to help the economy? Why is 4 straight years of higher unemployment under Obama than at any point under Bush better, thoughtful, or intelligent. What thoughtful, intelligent plan does Obama have to reduce the deficit. How is it thoughtful or intelligent to claim that you've reduced the deficit by $1 trillion during the last 4 years when the deficit has increased by over $6 trillion during that time period. How is it thoughtful or intelligent to claim for 2 weeks that a US Ambassador was killed as a result of a spontaneous protest from a film that no one saw, and on the anniversary of 9/11, no less? You may want to call it vitriol, but the fact is that Obama and his entire administration lied about it and his PR machine, NBC included, did everything they could to cover it up.
Scalzo: 3 black panthers dressed in fatigues with batons in their hands at the door of a voting place isn't intended to intimidate? I suppose you think that requiring a valid ID card is intimidation.
Once again this has Karl Roves finger prints all over it.
If this was Karl Rove as you claim, why were the letters sent primarily to republicans?
Considering that the letters have gone mostly to republicans, and they were postmarked from Seattle (a liberal state and area), I think it is more likely a DNC ploy to intimidate republicans so that they don't go out and vote, hoping to throw Florida to the democrats.
So, why don't we all just wait and see how this turns out.
And I think you are swallowing it hook, line and sinker. Its not the democrat party who has been in the news lately for this kind of thing, this is just the republican party, or some far right faction of it, trying to minimalize damage. It doesn't take a genius to see what is going on here.
Point blank these letters are targeting republicans not democrats. It is an obvious effort by the left to intimidate conservative voters. Play it any way you try the truth is obvious and Barry and his ilk are doing anything they can to keep from failing in this election.
Point blank, they are targeting the voters they want the news to report. Which party needs to do damage control in this area? HInt-its not the democrats.
Obama why?
Is this quarter's GDP, an anemic 1.3%, lower this year, then last year.
Is there 2.3% fewer Americans working today, then when you became President!
Why, is median household income down, 8.4% in America, since 2009.
Why, is Black unemployment 16%, in America today.
Why, is Hispanic unemployment 9.9%, in America today.
Why, is manufacturing in America, down 1.2%, this year alone.
Why, are 19.9%, of all female military veterans, out of work, in America today.
Why, are 1 in 6 Americans living in poverty.
Why, do you add 4 billion dollars, in new US debt every day, think China.
Why, are you imposing on America, 21 new taxes and fees to fund Obamacare.
Risk1: You need to ask these questions to your republican rep in the house of reps. They have held every thing but abortion that would have created many many jobs as well as holding bills regarding chinese monetary problems. Suppose the Romney does win the election and the 1st words out of Harry Reid's mouth were "we are going to make sure that Mr Romney is a one term president" What would your reaction be?
@wizardbob: I'd like to ask my Republican rep in the house ... but since she rarely shows up for work, I know it's not her.
Yah, we've got the samething here in Indiana. Our rep keeps telling us he is a farmer but he is never home so how does he farm. Doesn't do much of anything else either when he's not at home, but he bought a house in Virginia, maybe he's going to farm in Virginia.
Actually Tammy, Karl Rove has pulled these kinds of stunts in the past. He had his own office bugged at one point so he could claim opponents were behind it. I am not saying Rove is behind the letters at all...whoever it is..regardless of party affiliation, is scum. I am just saying Rove has done similar things to make his opponents look bad.
So you are saying that Karl Rove now works for the democrats?
HERE'S THE ANSWER FOLKS - Remember how the GOP has disposed of Democratic
registrations with the firm they just fired because they got caught. The same firm that was in question during
Bush's elections. This time is as easy as a switch on a database and POOF all ID's are gone.
In Colorado, about 800 people whose registrations were lost and they may have as
many as 10,000 people who think they are registered but may not be. All because
the Republican Secretary of State Scott Gessler lured new registrars to his site
and now mysteriously lost lots of them.
We were warned that the Sheldon Adelson and Koch brothers would open up the
financial floodgates in the last two weeks. They have already been busted twice
in the last month with voter registration fraud. Next, they will do like in
2000 and 2004 and try actual voter intimidation at the polls.
The last line of defense is Tagg Romney, who bought the company that owns the
voting machines in Ohio. It's the GOP that has really been a fraud in voting.
It's in the news in late September about a GOP consulting firm - Strategic
Allied Consulting. Google 'Strategic Allied Consulting.' and you will find out more about this vast right wing
conspiracy - last time in 2000 such conspiracy was backed up by the Supreme
Court. They also sent out letters in 2004 to residents telling them to go to the wrong voting locations.
This time it would be the Republican party trying to make democrats look bad, to minimize the damage we have seen by the republican party in the last couple of weeks? And the link that repubs
on this thread are posting are fraudulent. -this link shows why -
Over 200 years of voting and as little as 0.01% actual "DOCUMENTED" voter
fraud and we have to show ID because the right wing has made up this perception
of rampant fraud while committing election fraud themselves. Gotta love it.
Karl Rove got his start by breaking into a Democrat campaign headquarters and stealing a stack of stationary. He then printed up a bunch of lies on it and posted them all over the place.
False flag attacks are his modus operandi.
obviously karl rove does not believe in god, if there is a god, he's toast. same for his followers, if you follow the devil, u wind up in hell. it's that simple.
Rick, read the article. The biased repub official reporting says that the majority of the REPORTED letters went to repubs, but that same repub official reports that he realizes that the actual MAJORITY of the letters will never be reported. Of course, that great majority who do not report things like these letters are always the least self-confident, the least self-assured, or in other words, newer citizens, minorities or democrats who are usually discriminated against as in the last Florida election scam. I personally new of some white Democrats who moved to Florida from our state and were there long enough and legally registered but then were not allowed to vote by some unethical mechanism that I cannot remember the details of, and they did not live in Miami or near there.
Obama is toast. Romney is in. Good. Set your alarms. It's time to go back to work again.
The only people who might be fooled by this plan would be minorities. They could safely send this to random people knowing that the old fat rich white people wouldn't be fooled. It was probably started by Nathan Sproul. If you don't know who that is he's the GOP get out the vote guy who was accused of multiple counts of fraud in 2004 and 2008 that they rehired this election. He's again accused of hundreds of counts of fraud in Florida this year.
Amen to that Alim.. I for one am sick of supporting others that do NOTHING.. I just love the spin on this story now, with all these Dems and their "conspiracy theories".. Just because a Republican douchebag did somthing with letters before, doesn't mean that this situation is the same.. That being the case, it can be argued that a DEMOCRAT did this to frame the Republican Party to make it appear as a cover up.. I personally think we should all just wait for the results of the FBI investigation but that would be logic and there doesn't appear to be much of that on board today..
To those wondering about why mostly republicans got the letters - it's mostly republicans who have reported receiving them. The new citizens who got them and is likely to vote democratic probably is scared to report it. That's why it is called voter intimidation.
wizzardbob, thanks for verifying that the president does not have the ability to get congress to work effectively. I was "hoping" he would have to the skill to drive "change", but i agree with you that he has not been able to do lead our congress to results. So he may be the change we need today.
thanks for you insight....
The fact of the matter is that Republicans are the ones that want to stop people from voting, most likely those that are illegal immigrants. Unfortunately, when you try to scrub the voting rolls with very little information, you end up doing it by names, and many names that sound foreign and could be illigal immigrants, might just be republican voters. The Republicans could very well be profiling their own voters
Karl Rove sent these to Republican? Have you had this condition long? Has living in your mothers basement helped?
So the Republicans send these to Republicans to stop them from voting? Only Obama supporters function with this low a level of logic.
The GOP was the party that nationwide enacted new "legislation" to prevent voter fraud.
Looks like the GOP has been caught with its "right" hand in the cookie jar.
...any of their new laws that are applicable to these illegal letters should be used against the Republicans to give them a taste of their own medicine!
I got a letter a lot like this here in Democratic-leaning Knoxville, TN a few months back. I just updated my voter registration - problem solved.
I think it's safe to say that there are a few people of either stripe willing to subvert democracy in this election. It only takes one to send out a huge batch of letters.
No matter what political party, make sure your voice is heard. Get your registration up-to-date. Vote, or don't complain.
25Walker,
From everything I've read and heard, most of the bogus letters went to Republicans...somehow I doubt the Republicans are trying to prevent their voters from voting...
Obama is pleading the fifth when asked about when he learned of three emails sent by the State Department to him on September 11, 2012, informing him that the US Consulate in Benghazi was under attack and that a terrorist group was claiming responsibility for the attack.
The White House has also refused to say when they met with the National Security Council following the terror attack.
"We decline to comment," said White House National Security staff aide Debbie Bird.
The emails are important because they suggest the White House knew of the true nature of the attacks from the start, yet inexplicably spent the next three weeks telling the public they were spontaneous protests that turned violent.
The White House has suggested they were overwhelmed with information following the attacks. Jay Carney told reporters this morning, ""There were emails about all sorts of information that was becoming available in the aftermath of the attack. The email you're referring to was an open-source, unclassified email referring to an assertion made on a social media site that everyone in this room had access to and knew about instantaneously. There was a variety of information coming in."
"The whole point of an intelligence community and what they do is to assess strands of information and make judgments about what happened and who was responsible," Carney added. "I would refer you to what we've already said about, and what the DNI has already said about, the initial assessments of the intelligence community, and the fact that throughout this process, I and others made very clear that our preliminary assessments were preliminary, that an investigation was underway, and that as more facts became available, we would make the American people aware of them."
Carney insisted, "This was an open-source, unclassified email about a posting on a Facebook site. I would also note I think that within a few hours, that organization itself claimed that it had not been responsible. Neither should be taken as fact. That's why there's an investigation underway."
The emails were sent by the State Department to several government officials including members of the President's staff, so there's no reason why he should have been unaware of them.
Ultimately, if the President and his staff cannot assess a dynamic situation and respond appropriately, even after two to three weeks following, then questions must be raised about the competency and functionality of the current administration.
--Federal Court: Obama Appointees Interfered With Prosecution in New Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case
A federal court in Washington, D.C., ruled that a number of President Obama’s political appointees within the U.S. Department of Justice did in fact interfere with the prosecution of two New Black Panther party members who were videotaped holding a night stick and intimidating voters outside a Philadelphia voting station back in 2008.
Following a brief investigation into the 2008 New Black Panthers Case, the Department of Justice filed charges. However, the Panthers didn’t respond and a federal court in Philadelphia entered a “default” against all the defendants.
Enter Obama.
Shortly after he became president, the DOJ quickly backpedaled and the charges against three of the New Black Panther party members were dropped and a fourth was let off with a restraining order.
--This is how the Left rolls when you don't agree with them. Disgusting!!!
A Wisconsin state senator says his adult son was attacked in the early-morning hours on Friday by two men after he confronted them as they removed a Romney-Ryan sign outside his home.
State Sen. Neal Kedzie says his son, Sean, was wrestled to the ground by the two and stuck repeatedly on the head and face. A neighbor heard the commotion and managed to scare the attackers, Sean Kedzie was taken by ambulance to a nearby hospital
--Wendy Rosen, the Democratic challenger to Republican Rep. Andy Harris in the 1st Congressional District, withdrew from the race Monday amid allegations that she voted in elections in both Maryland and Florida in 2006 and 2008.
--James O’Keefe, famous for exposing ACORN’s voter registration fraud, and showing how easy it was to get Attorney General Eric Holder’s ballot in a recent election, has caught Democrat Congressmen Jim Moran’s son, Patrick Moran (his father’s field director) discussing how to commit voter fraud, including forging utility bills.
--Democratic state rep Hudson Hallum and 3 others have pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to commit election fraud during the special election that put him in the Arkansas House of Representatives in 2011. Giving away bottles of vodka and chicken for votes.
That does seem odd, doesn't?
It's odd if you didn't know that Republican strategist, Karl Rove, has done this very thing in the past. He's bugged his own office to make it look like he was being spied on. He has stolen Democratic letterhead paper to send out malicious documents. He invented "Swiftboating" the opposition, along with many, many other dirty political techniques.
This all-too-obvious campaign is blatantly constructed to look like a dirty Democratic trick, when in fact, it's a clever, dirty trick by the Republicans to get the necessary electoral college votes in Florida.
Just like they did with the 2000 election where Al Gore won the popular vote (Gore 48.4% - Bush 47.9%- Nader 2.74%) but still lost to George W. Bush due to Florida's voting scandal netting Bush 25 Electoral College votes for the win. We all know what a deep hole George W. dug us into. If it worked before, it will work again.
But hey, I'm open to see what the investigators find. If it is an overzealous Obama supporter, it was very, very stupid. In any event, I hope they prosecute to the full extent of the law.
Ron 1861300,
Nationwide, the GOP has led the voter suppression effort. The party has ran into state house and senatorial chambers to disenfranchise the poor, minorities, the disabled, students and any segment of the population that is more incline to vote Democratic. The article does states that the majority of the letters went to Republican voters. The letters were also sent to Democratic and Independent voters.
Considering that the right wing has lead the voter restriction efforts, the Republicans are suspect. If some of the letters went to GOP supporters, who knows, maybe the right in its nefarious efforts, "tripped their own selves up."
It was the "Mystery Monkey." They arrested him this week! Tranquilizer dart
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If it's rethug politics in FLA, it's crooked.
Of course it is.
The letters were postmarked from Seattle, Washington - a predominantly democrat state the last I heard.
You think Republicans do not go to Seattle Washington.
Oh please. Like there are no Republicans in Washington State. The Dems have absolutely NO reason to suppress the vote.
The GOP....cheating as usual. Pathetic.
So, republicans are trying to suppress the votes of other republicans?
If it's namecalling and party jerseys, it's bad for the country. Obama is done. Romney's in. Lay out your clothes. You can bitch all the way to work.
Bahahah Alim is delusional!! HE thinks Romney will rcover the economy. Romney rags on Obama for "no significant progress" in 4 years yet during the DEBATES he said he can fix in 8- 10 YEARS. Sorry bud, id take Obama over a bumbling fool.
@Dlux - "Oh please. Like there are no Republicans in Washington State. The Dems have absolutely NO reason to suppress the vote."
What a stupid comment.. No reason?? Really?? Last time I check your Dem Candidate was trying to get re-elected, so.. Oh please, right back atcha.. Dems have extremists too..
So Republicans are out to suppress the Republican vote? Only the mind of a liberal sinks to this level of logic.
--Federal Court: Obama Appointees Interfered With Prosecution in New Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case
A federal court in Washington, D.C., ruled that a number of President Obama’s political appointees within the U.S. Department of Justice did in fact interfere with the prosecution of two New Black Panther party members who were videotaped holding a night stick and intimidating voters outside a Philadelphia voting station back in 2008.
Following a brief investigation into the 2008 New Black Panthers Case, the Department of Justice filed charges. However, the Panthers didn’t respond and a federal court in Philadelphia entered a “default” against all the defendants.
Enter Obama.
Shortly after he became president, the DOJ quickly backpedaled and the charges against three of the New Black Panther party members were dropped and a fourth was let off with a restraining order.
--This is how the Left rolls when you don't agree with them. Disgusting!!!
A Wisconsin state senator says his adult son was attacked in the early-morning hours on Friday by two men after he confronted them as they removed a Romney-Ryan sign outside his home.
State Sen. Neal Kedzie says his son, Sean, was wrestled to the ground by the two and stuck repeatedly on the head and face. A neighbor heard the commotion and managed to scare the attackers, Sean Kedzie was taken by ambulance to a nearby hospital
--Wendy Rosen, the Democratic challenger to Republican Rep. Andy Harris in the 1st Congressional District, withdrew from the race Monday amid allegations that she voted in elections in both Maryland and Florida in 2006 and 2008.
--James O’Keefe, famous for exposing ACORN’s voter registration fraud, and showing how easy it was to get Attorney General Eric Holder’s ballot in a recent election, has caught Democrat Congressmen Jim Moran’s son, Patrick Moran (his father’s field director) discussing how to commit voter fraud, including forging utility bills.
--Democratic state rep Hudson Hallum and 3 others have pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to commit election fraud during the special election that put him in the Arkansas House of Representatives in 2011. Giving away bottles of vodka and chicken for votes.
Nibor all one has to do is look at your response and that of other GOPhers to understand. Only about 100 letters were reported - yet from these 100 letters a large amount of negative reaction has been made against the Democrats. It's quite ingenious actually - use a 100 GOPhers as sacrificial lambs for the party (knowing that they of course will still vote GOP anyways) to get publicity and negative print against the opponent.
It does have Karl Rove all over it.
We have a Federal Elections Commission, but I wonder if that Commission has the authority to prosecute people or organizations that act in ways that threaten or in any way inhibit voting rights. If not, why not?
Enemies of America from among our own citizens. Forget all those lesser crimes, this should be called for what it is, treason.
"Enemies of America" perfectly said. I really hope they find the organization responsible. This
is an attack on our freedom. I really don’t care which party it is. The person
or persons responsible need jail time.
"David Couvertier, a spokesman for the FBI in Tampa, said his office opened up an investigation into the possible attempt at voter intimidation on Wednesday after receiving reports that eligible voters throughout the state have received the letters"
I wonder if the FBI started an investigation. When the state of Florida sent out letters to legal voters and told them that they had to prove their citizenship or they couldn't vote?
That first purge list came from the DMV as you well know. The Florida Governor has been trying since January 2012 to get the Dept. of Homeland Security's list of legal aliens. The Justice Dept. took them to court to block their access. It was only an August court opinion that allowed them access. What I can't understand is why you want ineligible voters on the rolls in the first place? Is it because they will nullify REPUBLICAN votes?
all the illegals gotta go get out ! if you w desire to come here to live sign up get a job pay taxes AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE! then we'll think about it..
meanold
Well they let people like you vote and you don't even know how to read.
Here, get someone to read this for you:
"When the state of Florida sent out letters to legal voters and told them that they had to prove their citizenship or they couldn't vote?"
People behind this need to go to jail. Im sure some republican officials can be traced to this.
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Why would Republican officials try to dissuade Republicans from voting? Or did you not read the entire article?
"Cate said a 'significant majority have gone to Republican voters, but not exclusively. We've got Democrats who received the letters, we've got independents. We're telling everybody to be on the lookout.'"
Most of the letters were sent to Republicans. Even if you think the GOP is the most evil, corrupt, and monstrous group in the world, why on earth would they orchestrate a risky crime like this that costs them more voters than their opponents? If they did pull something like this, they would do so in a way that might help them win, not in a way that would make them lose more voters than any other candidate.
Ever hear of "reverse psychology"? Send out a bogus letter to get the people riled up and MOTIVATE them to vote.
depends on how many democrats and independents were sent the letters doesn't it? Losing a few republicans but losing many independents who may vote democrat would support that position. Wouldn't it
David!
They have been caught in most other attempts at suppression and intimidation. Think like they are playing chess you fool. Yes send the majority to Republicans because they will not be dissuaded. Any vote that is not cast for the Tea Baggin @!$%#s is a victory. What is a majority I ask you, 6 out of 10. The GOP still has 6 votes but the D's lose 4 votes, it is a win situation.
If this effort is from a GOP base, no jail, behead them in the center of town like their kindred spirits from the Taliban would do. If they are Democrats use a dull knife, because I hold Democrats to a higher standard. I hold all officials to the highest standard but I will never tolerate GOP scare/intimidation tactics within the part of tolerance!
Sorry, to use a GOP favorite talking point, I misspoke, any vote that is cast for the Tea Baggin @!$%#s is a victory.
There is NO evidence this is even remotely connected to the GOP and would be absolutely ridiculous for them to do. Arguing that this is clearly the GOP trying to reverse psychology their way into stealing the election makes as much sense as claiming that any time a Sikh is harassed or killed it is really a conspiracy by the Sikh community to make non-Sikhs look bad. It's stupid, completely baseless, and requires an ego so inflated that one is willing to attribute any illegal or immoral act to those they don't agree with, no matter what it is or who it targets.
David
Where is any evidence!? The evidence will be found and it will be found to be GOP SOP. And just as an asides, what do you think you know about Sikhs? What is your answer to holding ANY other party to a Higher Standard than what the GOP can mentally/morally attempt?
Maple..if it was the GOP then WHY were most of the notices sent to Registered Republicans? That makes no sense at all. Sorry.
As David said, there is no proof that the GOP had anything to do with it.
Some of the letters have been received by "longtime, staunch voters who have been exercising their right to vote" for years, Couvertier said. While those people are likely to vote anyway, "Our concern is someone who might not be secure and then questions whether they should vote."
Which part are you trying to hide?
By the way, you do not know me enough to say Maple
The name is Maple12String
Do you have any idea of the name?
I thought not
Roadkill
Republicans/conservatives don't need to use "reverse pyschology", early voter turnout is beginning to show record participation and it's just starting.
It's the economy, unemployment, Chief Executive lies and "The Benghazi Failure".
Tad, ow just like Early Voter suppression in some states, like Ohio, Kansas etc etc? And it is the Economy, like the House that has been engaged in Vagina Regulation. Why offer jobs to the locals when the ChiKnees work for 1/10 the wage and they must abort any manager's seed spill.Executive Lie's and if you had you @!$%#ing shotgun with the rest of the Merc's in Benghazi, you would have lived and Our Ambassador?
This whole conspiracy stuff is giving me a headache. Reverse psychology, get Republicans riled up, loose a few Democrats but gain independents. If I had any hair I would be pulling it out. I vote to intimidate voters the old fashioned way! A couple of thugs with ball bats out in front of the polling sites. That's a tried and true prosecution proof method.
Either way I hope when they catch them, they put them on the very bottom floor under the boiler room....
I guess it's possible that some Republican in liberal Seattle sent those letters to mostly Flordia Republicans, but not likely. Chances are, its some college aged Obama supporter. My question is how did they get all of the address of Flordia Republican voters?
If you picked random people from the phone book it could well end up having more republicans than democrats receiving them. The fact that only minorities, especially people who were new citizens would be the only ones likely to fall for it it's easy to see why people would point to the GOP.
Maple, may I call you Maple since I believe your name has something to do with an 12 string accoustic guitar, possibly ebony frets like on the older Les Pauls? Anyhoot.. This scenerio can go both ways.. OBVIOUSLY.. If they knew who it was it would be ALL OVER THE NEWS.. It's not though, because they are INVESTIGATING.. lol..
--Federal Court: Obama Appointees Interfered With Prosecution in New Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case
A federal court in Washington, D.C., ruled that a number of President Obama’s political appointees within the U.S. Department of Justice did in fact interfere with the prosecution of two New Black Panther party members who were videotaped holding a night stick and intimidating voters outside a Philadelphia voting station back in 2008.
Following a brief investigation into the 2008 New Black Panthers Case, the Department of Justice filed charges. However, the Panthers didn’t respond and a federal court in Philadelphia entered a “default” against all the defendants.
Enter Obama.
Shortly after he became president, the DOJ quickly backpedaled and the charges against three of the New Black Panther party members were dropped and a fourth was let off with a restraining order.
--This is how the Left rolls when you don't agree with them. Disgusting!!!
A Wisconsin state senator says his adult son was attacked in the early-morning hours on Friday by two men after he confronted them as they removed a Romney-Ryan sign outside his home.
State Sen. Neal Kedzie says his son, Sean, was wrestled to the ground by the two and stuck repeatedly on the head and face. A neighbor heard the commotion and managed to scare the attackers, Sean Kedzie was taken by ambulance to a nearby hospital
--Wendy Rosen, the Democratic challenger to Republican Rep. Andy Harris in the 1st Congressional District, withdrew from the race Monday amid allegations that she voted in elections in both Maryland and Florida in 2006 and 2008.
--James O’Keefe, famous for exposing ACORN’s voter registration fraud, and showing how easy it was to get Attorney General Eric Holder’s ballot in a recent election, has caught Democrat Congressmen Jim Moran’s son, Patrick Moran (his father’s field director) discussing how to commit voter fraud, including forging utility bills.
--Democratic state rep Hudson Hallum and 3 others have pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to commit election fraud during the special election that put him in the Arkansas House of Representatives in 2011. Giving away bottles of vodka and chicken for votes.
Maple12String says, "What is a majority I ask you, 6 out of 10. The GOP still has 6 votes but the D's lose 4 votes, it is a win situation."
So you are saying that the Dems, like you, are smart enough to recognize this as a blatant act of reverse psychology; sending the letters to a majority of Republicans. However, the Dems in Florida receiving the letters will 100% of the time be fooled into not voting? SMH
you just need to look at romney's office
--Federal Court: Obama Appointees Interfered With Prosecution in New Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case
A federal court in Washington, D.C., ruled that a number of President Obama’s political appointees within the U.S. Department of Justice did in fact interfere with the prosecution of two New Black Panther party members who were videotaped holding a night stick and intimidating voters outside a Philadelphia voting station back in 2008.
Following a brief investigation into the 2008 New Black Panthers Case, the Department of Justice filed charges. However, the Panthers didn’t respond and a federal court in Philadelphia entered a “default” against all the defendants.
Enter Obama.
Shortly after he became president, the DOJ quickly backpedaled and the charges against three of the New Black Panther party members were dropped and a fourth was let off with a restraining order.
--This is how the Left rolls when you don't agree with them. Disgusting!!!
A Wisconsin state senator says his adult son was attacked in the early-morning hours on Friday by two men after he confronted them as they removed a Romney-Ryan sign outside his home.
State Sen. Neal Kedzie says his son, Sean, was wrestled to the ground by the two and stuck repeatedly on the head and face. A neighbor heard the commotion and managed to scare the attackers, Sean Kedzie was taken by ambulance to a nearby hospital
--Wendy Rosen, the Democratic challenger to Republican Rep. Andy Harris in the 1st Congressional District, withdrew from the race Monday amid allegations that she voted in elections in both Maryland and Florida in 2006 and 2008.
--James O’Keefe, famous for exposing ACORN’s voter registration fraud, and showing how easy it was to get Attorney General Eric Holder’s ballot in a recent election, has caught Democrat Congressmen Jim Moran’s son, Patrick Moran (his father’s field director) discussing how to commit voter fraud, including forging utility bills.
--Democratic state rep Hudson Hallum and 3 others have pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to commit election fraud during the special election that put him in the Arkansas House of Representatives in 2011. Giving away bottles of vodka and chicken for votes.
Read the article before you post...
"Cate said a "significant majority have gone to Republican voters, but not exclusively. We've got Democrats who received the letters, we've got independents. We're telling everybody to be on the lookout."
That really makes it seem like a part of the "vast right wing conspiracy." Since the letters have been sent to everyone, perhaps it's not either Rebulicans or Democrats, but perhaps one of the small fringe parties? In other words, think before you comment...
Tree hugger? They have a lot of those in the Seattle area.
tammy, nothing wrong with a tree hugger. A tree enables you to breath. Destroy the trees and you are not going to breath
I like trees, I cut them down and cut them up and burn them to heat my home.
I think romney will lose florida and this will be one BIG reason why. If the republicans are stooping this low now america, just think what is going to happen if romney gets into the white house . A revolution is coming ,you better go hide teapublicans ,because those idiots you elect to office will disown you as soon as it hits the fan.
AHAHAHAHA!! We don't run or hide....we buy guns!! You are quick to blame the Republican party when it probably was Roseanne Barr!!! :)
You buy guns and we shove them up where the sun don't shine.Little man with a gun and no guts.Just like the Rethuglican hero, Coward Romney. Draft dodger.I bet you didn't know Romney's faviorite color is yellow,the same color as the streak down his back. Over 58 thousand killed whileRomney was peddling hs BS in France. How manly of him.
Try it.....
Rich 298746 – I don’t know where you were during the late 60’s
but I know where I was and I do not begrudge soon to be President Romney one
bit for serving his church while I served my country. I am one of those Constitution loving, God
fearing, gun owning little men with no guts that you refer to. In many ways you are no different from the
people I found when I returned home. They
had been saturated by liberal hate so they took out their anger on the noble
men and women who sacrificed some or all for their Country. Those who died did so with honor and dignity.
Don’t profane their loss by using it to make a point about Gov. Romney. Also, I am now 64 years old and hopefully a bit wiser than I was in my youth. However,
if you would like to put my AK in the place where the sun don’t shine you are
more than welcome to try.
And to UNOITALL don’t be a jerk. Responsible gun owners don’t boast.
Rich 298746 - Wasn't my man Bill Clinton a draft dodger too?
~~If you're not outraged by the direction of this country, you're just not paying attention~~
Bill Clinton smoked his pot and protested the war while Romney publicly backed the war all while receiving 3 educational deferments and a 31 month Mormon missionary trip to France so he wouldn't have to fight it. With Bill we knew what we were voting for a pot smoking, womanizing man opposed to war. With Romney we also know who you're voting for, a coward who sends others sons to war while his are safe. If elected he'll do as he did when he was young. Start a war and insure his sons are spending their time in the wilds of France or Germany where they're nice and safe.
Draft dodger? I love that term.. He's a mormon and was studying.. He is a successful businessman now and a strong believer in God.. Just because someone doesn't lay down their life for their Country doesn't mean that they are a draft dodger, maybe he thought he could better his life and that of his family with an education.. People do it all the time as opposed to enlisting.. Having a passion for your God and studying toward that end doesn't make you a coward.. SMH.. The Country could always use "a few good men", if you're so inclined to support the military, by all means ENLIST..
I worked in the Chaplain's office in the Army during the Viet Nam era. I saw a lot of deferments given to concientious objectors through religious reasons. The difference here folks was the fact that the rich and poor were equal when there was a DRAFT, unless you could go to Canada. I still think to this day that conscientious objectors should still serve their country in some way and even people with disablities and physical challenges. If the public can't discriminate against people for religious reasons or disabilities, then they could serve in a non-combattant form of service say at VA Hospitals or military offices in clerking positions. Right now since the elimination of the DRAFT we have forced the wars on the backs of the poor and the middle class. Many of them join our branches of service to get a chance at an education they otherwise couldn't get. The poor and middleclass have carried us through Iraq and Afghanistan to provide us the freedoms to work, play and earn as much money as we can, and they are taken for granted. Everyone should serve their country in some capacity. Face it folks from now on, we will have few people who run for the presidential office or any office who have actually been in the Service. We can't say too much against Romney and his sons for not serving or Obama until we change back to a DRAFT. However, it's much easier to understand the plight of the soldier if you have "been there and done it".
Larry-367607
Bill Clinton smoked his pot and protested the war while Romney publicly backed the war all while receiving 3 educational deferments and a 31 month Mormon missionary trip to France so he wouldn't have to fight it.
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Joseph Biden received five student draft deferments during the Vietnam War.
When did Obama serve?
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Nothing in my statement is made up. He had 5 deferments.
Your saying that isn't true?
Whatever makes you feel better but don't put words in my mouth. It makes you look bad almost Obama like.
Just can't quit... If guilty... Find out who it is and throw their collective asses in jail with a big fine.
You have to be the vilest scum to believe that suppressing the vote of any citizen is a worthy goal.
I say that regardless of the fact that the story notes that the "majority have gone to Republican voters" (along with some Democrats and Independents). Whoever the perpetrator may be, he or she is still a loathsome oppressor of our most sacred American right.
Jay in Atlanta, based on your comment about voting being " our most sacred American right" is it OK for me to assume that you would support any and all legal means, such as photo voter ID and proof of citizenship, before allowing people to vote?
Finally an honest republican. One that admits Willard was a draft dodger but he's ok with it because Clinton was also. The main difference is that Bill Clinton protested the war he believed was wrong while Willard applauded it as the right thing to do. Then hid in France.
Wow, Larry.. So you're putting Romney down, and then making excuses for Clinton's hippy ass.. Unreal..
Zearth did away with voting many years ago. We draw names out of a hat and have better results.
Voting is the very basis of our democracy, and those who tamper with Constitutional rights are committing treason of the highest order. That so may domestic enemies are hard at work to remove the rights of citizens, and the media is virtually silent about such an affront to our basic liberties, is indicative of the demise of free press, along with every other freedom we once had. I blame NBC for giving greater importance to jessica Biel's wedding dress. than to the slime among us who are out to sabotage our freedoms. NBC, do your job.
Wait.....racists in the South don't want minorities to vote? Really? When did that happen? Imagine my shock at reading this....the best thing is, these people don't realize that a lot of Latinos are Republican.....genius.....
Statistics argue to the contrary. Latinos are solidly Democrats, with the exception of the rabid Cubans of South Florida. Prime example congresswoman Ros-Lehtinen.
You read paragraph one. Congrats. But did you even bother to read the whole thing? Or do you just like many on here who are embattled with the headlines and take that for the story. DB17, I encourage you to read the entire article. ALL OF IT.
Interesting. Obama on the ropes,and Acorn rises again.
Are you sure that acorn didn't hit you on the head before you typed that?
Why is it that Obama is on the ropes and Romney isn't even the ring.
HERE'S THE ANSWER FOLKS - Remember how the GOP has disposed of Democratic
registrations with the firm they just fired because they got caught. The same firm that was in question during
Bush's elections. This time is as easy as a switch on a database and POOF all ID's are gone.
In Colorado, about 800 people whose registrations were lost and they may have as
many as 10,000 people who think they are registered but may not be. All because
the Republican Secretary of State Scott Gessler lured new registrars to his site
and now mysteriously lost lots of them.
We were warned that the Sheldon Adelson and Koch brothers would open up the
financial floodgates in the last two weeks. They have already been busted twice
in the last month with voter registration fraud. Next, they will do like in
2000 and 2004 and try actual voter intimidation at the polls.
The last line of defense is Tagg Romney, who bought the company that owns the
voting machines in Ohio. It's the GOP that has really been a fraud in voting.
It's in the news in late September about a GOP consulting firm - Strategic
Allied Consulting. Google 'Strategic Allied Consulting.' and you will find out more about this vast right wing conspiracy - last time in 2000 such conspiracy was backed up by the Supreme
Court. They also sent out letters in 2004 to residents telling them to go to the wrong voting locations.
This time it would be the Republican party trying to make democrats look bad, to minimize the damage we have seen by the republican party in the last couple of weeks. And the link that repubs
on this thread are posting are fraudulent. -this link shows why -
Over 200 years of voting and as little as 0.01% actual "DOCUMENTED" voter
fraud and we have to show ID because the right wing has made up this perception
of rampant fraud while committing election fraud themselves. Gotta love it.
Rich, he is there, it's just hard to see up when Obama is holding on the the bottom of the rope, clinging.. :)
also stupid liberals,obama had to show ID when he voted in chicago the other day,and chicago had that rule even before george bush was president,its now you scumbag liberals are calling for voter fraud and suppressiopn,again it is and always will be the liberals that will try to steel the election.more dead people and people's pets voted the last election for obama then anyother president combine.you liberals are no differant then the corrupt BS that goes on in other countries,a vote for obama is a vote to ruin this country as we know it
I see the no brain libtards are out in force on this thread. Did any of you morons bother to read the story?
Why are they wasting taxpayer $ on Fart, Barf and Itch, and the Pony Express? Just go to the state GOP headquarters and bust the whole sorry bunch.
The letters originated in Seattle, no where near Florida. In fact it is in the opposite corner.
Considering this is one of the democrat tools of the trade, I think it would be more likely to be democrats, trying to get Floride voters out of the picture so that their idol can lie, cheat, and steal to wim.
Tammy, democrats tool of the trade? Having you been paying attention at all in the last couple of weeks, where the guilty parties have actually been linked to the GOP or their outsourcers? Just way too convenient to have this story break right now. Anyone can do mass mailings from any state, so the origin really doesn't play into it. If anything, it adds to the smell.
Sheila, read the whole article, then come back and talk about the smell.
tammy you suck ja dc
Unbelievable Democrat Voter Fraud!
"Cate said a "significant majority have gone to Republican voters, but not exclusively. We've got Democrats who received the letters, we've got independents. We're telling everybody to be on the lookout." "
Left-leaners, we the American people, are outraged.
What the Rethuglicans got 95 letters and the Democrats got 94. I guess the way Rethuglicans do arithmetic one is a vast. majority. Clioton was right the Rethuglicans just don't add up.
Why would anyone even like your comment? You are now advocating that this is a conspiracy on the republicans. You are now making up stuff to try and make your own story? I'm not sure how 95>94 some how equals "significant majority have gone to Republican voters". Someone needs to go back to the 2nd grade.
We don't know who sent the letters but the only party that's committed proven fraud in this election is by republicans. Republican fraud this election includes destroying ballots, changing addresses to invalidate votes and forging voter applications. From the mass cases of fraud already proven where arrests have been made of people hired directly by the republican party we know who the liars and cheats are.
This nothing less the Terrorism and Treason and needs to be treated as such
Sending the Perpetrators to Gitmo for Life
24 deleted, pretty severe #1 violation from Brogottago including fantasies about killing 'the new negro panthers'. Pretty indicative of their history. Banned.
28 Counties - that takes a lot of money. Which party is the party of the rich. Which party is the party that Harry S. Truman in his book plain speaking warns us that Under this party, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It's the Repuglican party.
Well ludvig, your still not doing your homework, If you look at the records (which you won't) all the voter fraud has come forward has been from the liberial/socialists along with the lies to cover it up. Oh pardon me, the untruths, and it aint a crime to be rich, ask half the demo's in congress.
Ludvig,
Now just how much money has Obama raised for his reelection campaign? Wasn't it over $1B? Do you really believe only the Republicans have access to the kind of money to pull an illegal stunt like this?
That is why the feds just arrested a Republican for it.
"Any political candidate who will not show multiple tax returns may be hiding something." George Romney.
Yep, George must be rolling in his grave to know he has a WEASEL for a son!!
So mind boggling that so many of the right wing lemming base STILL will vote for WEASEL RoBME knowing he has NO MORAL COMPASS and a cold callous character. You all need to wake up now and realized that you all are just being used by this CONman. He'll say whatever it takes to get votes from GULLIBLE people. GULLIBLE people who does not realized they are just a STEPPING stone for Mitt to get his biggest ACQUISITION - the W.H.
SO... Where are Obama's tax returns then? Romney produced his far in excess of that required by law.
My understanding is that the letters were aimed at Republican voters and sent by someone performing an ILLEGAL act on behalf of desperate democRats.
I for one am looking forward to Obama's capitulation speech and then his erasure from history.
I know plenty of republicans voting for President Obama.The party affiliation of the people getting these letters is meaningless.
Obama gave fourteen years of full tax returns..Romney gave one with missing pages..
ask OBAMA a question get a speech!
It's not his fault you can't absorb anything longer than a Twitter post.
So..you're still on tax returns....what a moron? Still concerned about BIG BIRD too?
Was it 2004, in the state of Florida, that an appointee of Republican Governor Jeb Bush certified the results of the Election as being accurate even though there were numerous accounts of voter intimidation and fraud at numerous voting locations?
Jeb and his appointed cronies ensured that "brother George" got re-elected and we all know how that ended. The "Worst President in American History"comes to mind!
Don't let the "Right" steal another election! Vote Democrat across the board and lets get on with rebuilding OUR Nation!
Obama's the worst. Truth
2468whatever........I wasn't talking about Obama. I was talking about a Stolen Election in 2004.
Come on Cupcake, get back on subject or quit posting.
2468: scott wants you to agree with him or STOP posting. That's because he's a democrat and knows it all.
Arizona: Typical response. Stay on subject or stop the assinine posts.
"If you can't pound away at the facts, pound on the table!"
In other words, if you can't stay on subject, stop posting! I'm done here......later!
The majority of the people here keep blaming the Republican, nothing about the Panther's(Democrat side) during the last election. Oh that would called racist. Besides the letter were sent to all parties & if one is legal to vote he/she should realize the letters are BS. And yes the gov to investage & bust the idiots becasue it is a form of intimination however it would be nice if people would stop trying to divide our country using thes few hateful people to exacerbate the division.
Egads you called me a name. Let me shiver in the corner and crap another turd like you.
You brought up the worst president idea. Quote " The "Worst President in American History". You spewed your hate, I'll spew my TRUTH
Your comment was originally off topic scott.
this is for scott in buck and the rest of the idiot liberals that are dumber then a stick,it is and always is the liberals that will try to steel the elections or call suppression.and it will be blacks and the idiot liberals that will riot and protest and then destruck the communities that they live in when then dont get thier way like they always do.it is the liberals that try to suppress the whites by trying to scare them not to vote like those garbage black panther thugs who constantly make threats to like in philadelphia during last election.now dumber then a stick liberals i will educate you cause apparently your teachers and parents didn't.in a election where it is close ,the constitution calls for,you must do the count 2 more times and during the 2000 election they did just that and george bush was even getting farther then that P.O.S. crybaby gore,so then the scum liberals and blacks started to come up with every stupid reason to keep on counting and george bush still was getting more votes and then the so called voter suppression started happening and the G.O.P WAS STEELING AND SUPPRESSING ALL THESE PEOPLE and all of these people were lying through thier teeth,so all of these liberal a- - holes went on the news and said all this BS but what happened stupid liberals 3 mos. later all of these very liberal news papers and media came out and said the count was right and the blacks and liberals have been calling suppression since then and then in 2008 the black panthers started intimindating the voters not to vote and the stinking liberals started to do the name calling and the deffamation of people's charactor.NO liberal idiots it is always the liberals that try to steel the election,sol when obama looses are you idiots going to protest and riot and destroy the communites where you live,see i dont care cause i live in the suburbs away from the cities and i dont care less what happens in the urban areas. a vote for obama and his liberal cronies is a vote to ruin this country as we know it