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Subscribe to RSSOfficials say the FBI investigation into David Petraeus was triggered by a complaint from a family friend into emails sent by his biographer Paula Broadwell. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.
After investigating a potential case of "cyber-harassment" for several months, the FBI wrapped up its case after interviewing Paula Broadwell -- the biographer of former CIA director David Petraeus -- on Friday, Nov. 2, four days before the presidential election, a senior U.S. law enforcement official told NBC News.
It was the second time that FBI agents had questioned Broadwell in the probe and during both interviews she acknowledged having had an affair with Petraeus, the official said. Petraeus himself had been questioned a few days earlier and also acknowledged the affair, the first official said.
The dual interviews the week of Oct. 29 -- among the last to be conducted by the FBI in the case -- allowed the FBI to formally conclude there was no basis for criminal charges in the matter. This explains why the Director of National Intelligence James Clapper wasn't told about the probe until the following Tuesday, Nov. 6, election day, the official said.
The official offered new details about the FBI investigation -- and a more precise timeline of key events-- in order to rebut suggestions that senior law enforcement officials held back key information about the Petraeus matter until after the election.
The FBI and Justice Department's decisions on the case were not governed by the political calendar, the official asserted. Nor, the official said, were they influenced by a phone call from House Majority Leader Eric Cantor's office to the FBI on Oct. 31 asserting that it had heard from a FBI whistleblower who raised concerns that the Petraeus matter was being covered up or not being taken seriously.
Lawmakers question timing of Petraeus resignation
"I was contacted by an FBI employee concerned that sensitive, classified information may have been compromised and made certain (FBI Director Robert) Mueller was aware of these serious allegations and the potential risk to our national security,” Cantor said in a statement.
According to reporting by NBC’s chief justice correspondent Pete Williams, a senior law enforcement official said a call to a congressional staffer came from an agent who was initially involved in the investigation but who was later removed from the case because he knew an associate of one of the people being investigated. The agent knew someone on the Hill and called that person, a Republican staffer, according to the official. But that phone call had no effect on either the course of the investigation, the involvement of Mueller -- who was following it closely long before Cantor called him -- or the decision to notify Clapper, the official says.
"This had nothing to do with the election," the official said. Moreover the official added, Cantor's office was told that the case was being actively investigated by the FBI when it raised the matter on Oct. 31, and so it would have been wrong for the FBI or Justice Department to inform higher level officials in the administration about the probe earlier -- because they were unsure at that point what they were dealing with. In the end, according to multiple officials, investigators determined there was no criminal wrongdoing.
The woman who complained of being harassed by Paula Broadwell, General David Petraeus' biographer, has been identified as Jill Kelley, 37, a senior official tells NBC News. NBC's Kristen Welker reports.
According to the senior official, the investigation began several months ago when a woman reported to the FBI she had received anonymous-- and harassing -- emails from a person she didn't know. Multiple government officials tell NBC News that the woman was Jill Kelley, who lives in Tampa, Florida. Kelley and her husband, officials say, are close friends of the Petraeus family. Kelley was a volunteer social liaison to the MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa.
The FBI viewed the matter as a potential case of "cyber-harassment" and it was handled "regionally" with federal prosecutors working with the FBI on the matter, the official said. At first, neither Kelley nor the FBI knew who was sending the harassing emails-- because they came from accounts that were not immediately identifiable. But the FBI was eventually able to determine they came from Broadwell and then obtained access to her regular email account. It was only then that the FBI discovered, through her email exchanges with Petraeus, an apparent relationship between the two of them, the official said.
The FBI continued investigating the matter and was close to wrapping up the case late in October, the official said. Agents finally interviewed Petraeus the week of Oct. 29 and then re-interviewed Broadwell, allowing them to complete their investigation, according to multiple officials. It was only at that point that the decision was made to pass along information about the case to Clapper, the senior law enforcement official said, setting in motion the chain of events that led to Petraeus' resignation.
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It seems Clapper, the Obama appointee, decided the timing of the disclosure of this investigation. The timing of the addressing of the case and subsequent resignation of Petraeus automatically demands further clarification and review.
anyone else seeing hints around the web that this mistress of Petraeus might be the source of those "White House leaks"?
@cjc3593
Can you not read? Clapper was not notified until November 6. Patreus resigned on November 9. While embarassing, no laws were broken. What massive cover up do you believe demands review here?!
Who cares about this story. I'm too bummed to care. I just found out that Elmo is gay.
Petraeus was probably screwing both of these women and they got into a cat fight... that is just classic!
@Tired - Did you know Ernie and Bert were gay as well? They were the ones who started it all...
Ask Representative Cantor why he said nothing, because he knew everything long before the White House heard about General Petraeus' girlfriend problems.
It's Bill Clinton all over again. Impeached for lying in response to a question that Congress had no place in asking in the first place. It is just partisan politics at its best.
Like the Benghazi mess, this is still one more embarrassment for Obama the clown that was hidden until after the election. There are many more.
This smelled funny from the beginning and the more we know the smellier it gets. Now we have the "victim" saying she was harassed by emails saying 'terrifying' things like "stay away from my guy" and instead of taking this to Petreaus to try to resolve, she goes directly to the FBI???
Then there's the whole situation where nothing even remotely illegal happened between Broadwell and Kelley, yet the FBI started digging through Broadwell's email, a private citizen's personal communications? That reeks of abuse of power.
Then there's the whole timing issue. Apparently the FBI knew of the affair almost immediately, in the summer of this year. At that point they would not have been investigating Broadwell anymore. They would have been investigating Petreaus. If this were true, then they would have been compelled to inform the congressional intelligence committees and the White House. The congressional committees were obviously not informed. Was the White House and if so what did the White House direct the FBI to do? Did the White House direct the FBI to illegally withhold that information from the intelligence committees? Again, why? If the FBI knew for months that he was having an affair why did they sit on the information all this time and it's only now that they confronted him about it? If they informed him earlier than that, then why for the past few days been lying about the timing and why did Petreaus suddenly feel compelled to immediately change course and resign, turning his back on those that served under him (completely out of character)?
In law enforcement there is a saying "If something doesn't seem right, then it probably isn't." Nothing about this seems right. It's stinking to high heaven.
I believe this may be tied to Benghazi. Look at the timeline.
The FBI is investigating the beginning, middle and end of Benghazi.
The FBI by accident found out about the affair in the summer. Ambassador Stevens started asking for help from the WH & the State Dept. during the summer.
I believe the FBI, while digging for facts about the beginning of the Benghazi fiasco, found the Petraeus' e-mails by accident. The FBI probably found damaging evidence against the WH & the State dept. and is using Petraeus' affair as a scapegoat.
There is no way the FBI would know about the affair and not inform the Justice dept., the Intelligence committee and the WH. No way. It has never worked this way. What is the FBI hiding? Did they find that Benghazi was a debacle from the very beginning? Who are they trying to protect? Are they trying to protect the Justice dept. & the WH? This itself is fishy.
One other thing, why are the journalists at media outlets like NBC, MSNBC, CNN, etc. not smart enough to ask the questions I posed in #1.9???
But they would not tell Mr. Obama? And why did they let it go on for sooo long, knowing full well it could compromise national security?
The idiots at NBC will say anything to protect Obama. They want us to believe that when the FBI is investigating the head of the CIA that such matters are left to lower level agents. Second, the investigation was nearly complete by the time of the Cantor call, so they were well aware of what they were dealing with. Do the lies ever stop?
Mike SA
For the same reason they have failed to ask any probing questions of Obama whether it be on his budget proposals, the economy, Benghazi, Iran, his incompetence, etc... he gets a pass because he is their man.
Republicans did and do the exact same thing and the joke is on any fool who would think otherwise.
I knew that only knuckleheads would believe otherwise, and those knuckleheads get to live in a fake world. Note that I didn't paint a rosy pictures of Democrats. Just pointing out that someone who thinks Republicans are better make me laugh.
Was this information in those intelligence briefings Obama failed to attend? Or is the FBI that distrustful of Mr. Obama that they refused to tell him about it for fear he would derail the investigation?
OH. MY. GOD.
If Bush were President, this would be SUCH a non-story. Just another older guy who got caught dilly-dallying with a younger woman. This was about sex and a man's fragile ego being bolstered by a pretty woman. There is NO STORY or conspiracy or anything here, folks. The ONLY reason it's being played to death is because folks dislike President Obama and will do anything they can to blame EVERYTHING on him, at the same time as giving him ZERO credit for things that are going well. SOUR GRAPES. Y'all need to grow up, grow a pair, and start acting like the patriots you say you are and do/think/say something productive to get this country moving forward in a united way again. Can't we all just get along???!!!
Wet Willie: What was George W Bush's embarrassment? Failing to act on the pre 9/11 intelligence that would of prevented the deaths of 3000 Americans in NYC, PA, and WAS DC? Or invading Iraq based on LIES, in which 5000 Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqi died? I mean for Christ's sake, you're comparing 4 dead Americans in Benghazi to the genocide that occurred under George W Bush? Please..
Republicans grasping at straws and stating that this would have effected the election (in their direction) are wrong.
If this had broken days before the election, Romney would have lost more momentum as the affair would have been of more interest to voters tired of all the political ads. Cantor knew this. No one wanted this out in the press right before the polls.
For those trying to link this to Benghazi, there is no proof of a link. Not in this story and not in others. Hillary already accepted responsibility.
This is no difference than Gary Hart having an affair on his yacht "Monkey Business".
Only fools accept the incompetence and corruption of one by pointing towards that of another.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! So your saying MSNBC, NBC, the New York Times, CNN, ABC, etc. "dislike President Obama and will do anything they can to blame EVERYTHING on him"????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...stop it, your killing me!
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA.
SnakeEyes............................You should know that Repubs do NO wrong and that they point only those Socialist Democrats who are so uppity to send a black man to the WHITE house
Note to White House: "Oh what a tangled web you weave when first you practice to deceive."
The more information comes out, the more serious questions there are that need answering.
Well, at least now Obama has someone he can place the blame on for those national security leaks coming out of the WH. V. Jarret a D. Axlerod are off the hook, for now.
There were many items of concern about leaks from the White House such as Kill Lists for a drone program that wasn't supposed to exist, Obama's cover story about the muslim movie causing the consolate attack being blown, (Note: this lady leaked that the consolate contained foregin prisoners ->proven fact from her own mouth in Denver). other leaks included the Pakastani Doctor that took DNA samples from Osama's Kids. These are all things she clearly had access to via pillow talk. The General really screwed up...
Most of you know me around here and know I'm on the GOP side. I don't for one second blame Obama for any of these leaks if they did come from this chick. I blame the general.
Obama said many months ago he would investigate where these leaks came from... I bet this is where they came from.
Obama said he would stop black sites for interigations... Clearly the Bengazi station was one of those sites. We need the sites to fight terror. If the true nature of the site was told to the press then Obama would be a lier. But the fact is if I was a terrorist from another country an was taken to Lybia by the CIA I would crap a brick knowing they could do anything they wanted to me without breaking a law. I would sing like a bird. It was smart for Obama to shove these sites back into the shadows. This one just got found out about. Because of that chicks big mouth. All because The General was thinking with his dick instead of honor.
I am one who prescribes to the therory that what happens behind closed doors should stay behind closed doors. But not if it is taking place in the Oval office or you can't keep your mouth shut.... Chicks have been used to gather intel since the dawn of war.
Republicans told Democrats in 2004 "You lost, get over it."
Democrats say the same thing now.
You all secretly share the same bed, don't you. Its like you have a big nasty fight online, and then you sleep together. Stop the lying.
Active duty middle and senior grade officers in the field who are/were having a "side line" sexual affair, amongst others, don't have the luxury of their "case" being terminated:
This case is going to get stonewalled just like "Fast and Furious" and Benghazigate.
Conspiracy theories aplenty! Can't you Conserv. just see something as "It is what it is?"
Pretreus was a REPUB and could have been a candidate for a Presidential bid one day. But you're all running around with your hair on fire yelling about how he was an embarrassment to the Obama Admin - he was an embarrassment to HIMSELF and his family.
Can you talk about something other than DEMS are out to get ya?!!!
Is Mr. Obama going to admit that he knew about this investigation as it was going on, or is he going to fire the Director Of National Intelligence, Eric Holder and the FBI because they failed to tell him about an ongoing investigation into the head of the CIA? Was there really that much distrust in Mr. Obama that they refused to inform him of the investigation? It has to be one or the other. Mr. Obama, stop playing politics with our national security.
While it is a rotten shame for the General to cheat on his wife, I would vote for him over a lot of other Washington figures, regardless of party, should he ever decide to run.
1. At least he admitted his failure, 2. He actually got some things accomplished.
He is still General "Pick up the pieces" to me.
So Petraeus is now some symbol of the Democratic party? Isn't this the same guy that was dubbed "General Betrayus" in 2004 by a left-leaning newspaper, only to have every Republican come out of the woodwork in faux anger? Wasn't he one of Bush's favorite sons? Now that he stayed on in the Obama administration, he's suddenly the posterboy of Democratic politics-gone-wrong? If you can't see past your nose, don't make observations - it makes you look like a silly goof ball.
False. This is information that was already being reported by news outlets before her interview in Denver.
If she was where the leaks came from and they were investigating her months ago, then why has she not already been arrested?
Petraeus/Cantor 2016,,, down the drain.
His party is less of an issue. If the FBI dropped this before the election, they would equally be accused of electioneering. So that's not the issue.
The issue is - a man resigns a couple days before giving testimony to congress. Even if truly coincidental, the result is he avoids giving testimony to Congress - thus creating a question of alternative reasons.
So what. He will need to be sopenonaed, and let the Congressmen ask questions. Its all due process.
What they find is anyone's guess.
The speculation yesterday on the Sunday news shows favored two conflicting theories. 1. Pres Obama wanted him gone - this prevented a fight. 2. Petraeus wanted to testify honestly, which he would have had trouble doing having this hidden - and working for people he may testify against.
What I'm reading above is a bunch of idiotic comments.
It matters not whether he was a Republican or Democrat. He was the CIA director which is a BIG job. If he used his position in the CIA to carry on the affair, that is a problem. The same if you used a company expense account to wine and dine your lovers. I doubt when discovered if you would have a job.
If while he was in the military he had the affair, then he, as she, will be prosecuted and his rank, benefits as well as pension will be affected in retirement as it is against military rules and regulations to carry on affairs when married while active.
It is not often that men or women of his stature are caught with their hand in the cookie jar. It is fair for this to be news worthy.
Many were presecuted under the Bush Administration as were in the Clinton before him.
Tom Delay
Rob ney
Duke Cunningham
William J Jefferson
Bill Janklow
Jim Traficant
Vito Fossello
Larry Craig
Frank Ballance
It's George Bush's Fault!
And coverups weren't going on in the Clinton era? Give that man a cigar!
OMG, exactly HOW does his resignation prevent him from testifying? Oh, yeah, that's right. It doesn't, but saying it does somehow makes the conspiracy theorists feel better about their flavor of the day, Benghazigate. There was NO ORDER TO STAND DOWN, and there is NO CONSPIRACY HERE. Chrikies, if ANYONE was trying to play politics with this, it was Cantor, since HE opted not to report it! So exactly how does that reflect on the prez? Because if anyone on here thinks Cantor would go out of his way to protect Obama, I've got some great swampland in South Georgia I'd like to sell you!
revelation began as cyber-harassment probe...Right!
Anyone looking for a Bridge to buy? I've got brand new one for you!
Want to know what this is about please allow me to spell it out for you....B..e..n..g..h..a..z..i L..i..b..y..a and getting "BeTrayUS" out of having to testify against O..b..a..m..a../..C..l..i..n..t..o..n!
Here's a good link to Lil Davy's "Squeeze" Paula Broadwell that was made just before this "Scandal" broke and probably the Real Cause of her being dragged into and used as the "Excuse" for this 'ghastly mess'!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPaf5OJSskY&feature=youtu.be&t=35m50s
Sorry about that.... now the "Video" of Paula talking in Colorado has "Magically" Disappeared From YouTube! Well it was her speaking about Afghanistan so do a little more reseacrh and you will find it!
This is nothing more than the continuing story about covering up our Political Minions of Wall Street Overlords Crimes Against America!
Don't believe? watch a Real American Hero General Wesley Clark speak and then a new PBS Documentary......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw&feature=g-all-f
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I
If you don't understand what has been done to US and our children's future after watching these links....You willfully CHOOSE NOT TOO and are as guilty as the Terrorist on Wall Street!
"He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.” ~George Orwell, 1984
Looks like we need "representitive" Darrel Issa "The chairman of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee" to spend millions of taxpayer dollars to "investigate" this.
Oops Sorry about that.... the "Video" link of Paula talking in Colorado in October about Benghazi I posted above has "Magically" disappeared From YouTube....Hahaha as if they can really keep it covered up! Try this link instead.....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/12/why-did-paula-broadwell-think-the-cia-had-taken-prisoners-in-benghazi/
Better watch it fast before they "Squish" it again.......Even the WP is only willing to show a "Screen Shot" of the Video!
"The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history." ~George Orwell
TO: KingK who wrote:
What's the "lie" and who told it?
If folks want to keep calling the POTUS a "liar" then they're going to have to tell us what "lie" they are talking about. By the way, there's another reason why Romney couldn't get elected, too much "name calling" and no substance behind it, which is probably why the word "racist" got tossed around so much. Republicans want to call the Prez a "liar" but can't point any "lie" that was told.
Forward ...
Reading through all these comments makes one point crystal clear:
Republicans are cute when they grasp at straws after they get their collective butt kicked.
TO: Jorge-2541621 who wrote:
Do you even know who "George Bush" is?
Republicans would do better to quit reminding us everyday about the most hated and worse president in history, unless of course you'd like to keep the American People thinking negatively about Republicans.
While Republicans don't remember anyone named "George Bush", it tends to piss some people off everytime that name is mentioned.
Forward ..
MUW, you're acting like she was the source of the story that a news organization (Fox) had already reported. Perhaps that's why she prefaced the statement by "You might have heard"...because the story was already out. Fox's story was from sources on the ground at the CIA annex in Benghazi and other sources in Washington confirmed this so she wasn't the source.
I agree with you on one point, it sure looks like somebody somewhere is trying to make sure the story doesn't break out.
The corruption and cover up is so wide reaching it's scary.
Yesterday, my beloved 49ers lost. The vast majority of fans assumed that was simply the result of a football game.
But, noooooooooooo. Let me spell it out for you! It was about Benghazi! There's simply no other reasonable explaination!
“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ~George Orwell, 1984
America.....Do a little real research for yourself and you will find tons of Info on the Latest Chapter of "Benghazi-Gate"! Anyone remember Tricky Dick Nixon and his "Cover-Up Crimes" at Watergate? That Scandal didn't break until AFTER the Election either!
Well here is some "Real Information" but you had better watch it here fast before the Corporations "Squish" it once again.......
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/11/alleged-petraeus-mistress-suggested-she-was-privy-to-state-secrets.html
This is nothing more than the continuing story about covering up from US by our "Corrupted Political Minions & Government Officials" of their Wall Street Overlords continuing Crimes Against America!
“You are a slow learner, Winston."..."How can I help it? How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.” ~ George Orwell, 1984
I wonder if those who ask "how long are you going to blame Dubya??" would ever ask the parents of a dead girl...."How long are you going to keep blaming that Ted Bundy guy??"
The damage that drunken little puke bush did is on his record for time and eternity. That's how long.
Sorry Mike Mike in SA Paula's Speech in Denver was 3 weeks or more ago!
Psst NevadaJ-577866 Belittlement & nonsense does not change the "FACTS"! It only shows ignorance and desperation!
Folks Please....READ THE STORY & LINKS BEFORE COMMENTING... That way you might not embarrass yourselves!
As the Roar of the Crowd for Blood grows ever stronger.........
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57548238/who-is-paula-broadwell/
Like Petraeus, Broadwell is a West Point graduate....Ah yes even "Paula" wears the West Point Ring! Once an Officer always a "Reserve" Officer...That is the LAW!
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm1342.htm
So why aren't "Davy & Paula" being Prosecuted under Article 134 of the UCMJ?
"Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations." ~George Orwell
Psst Vindicator1111....Thanks, too bad BeTrayUS wasn't as much of a Patriot as General Wesley Clark who's link I posted above!
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery~ Charles Caleb Colton
Two things are a total joke for me... The MSM ignored this whole deal because of the election. Now that the election is over and their guy won... They will now start reporting it two months late. But the really funny thing is.... Now that down and dirty sex is involved... They won't shut up about this for months.
Because this is CIA related... Holy crap! So much is going to get known... It has all the great elements of entertainment. Covert stuff, war stuff, sex, love triangles, blackmail, cover-ups, powerful leaders. It is Pandora's Box times 50.
But I guess this is what happens when we elect celeberties and not commanders.
Wow. I hope the world is not reading these comments. If so, they are certain to think we have all lost our collective minds. The imagination of people who don't have enough to keep them entertained in their own lives is truly an amazing thing.
Yes, I know. So was Fox's story. She actually even quoted the story.
I could see and hear the Senators asking Paula questions at an investigation right now...."So, Mrs. Broadwell," (snickers from the chamber room audience) "Please! No unnecessary antics from our audience today?! Thank you." "So, Mrs. Broa....uh....Paula....please take us through the last hour, give or take, of your most recent intimate connection with Gen. Betray....er *cough*...Petraeus. Please do not skip any details Paula. Remember, you are under him..uh...I mean...under oath. We need a blow by blow (more snickers from the chamber) account of how you were able to get Gen. Petraeus all in (outright laughs from the chamber audience) while not giving away any overall body of sensitive information that could jeopardize his crotch...uh...I mean watch over the Benghazi. We also want to know when you were first groped...er...probed by the clap...er....Mr. Clapper. Please take your time and, if possible, please provide the council any pictures you may have of these encounters Thank you Paula." C-Span ratings would go through the roof!
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Can we perhaps get a few things straight, here?
First and foremost, can we stop with the Betrayus nonsense? I didn't approve of it when it was trotted out during the Bush administration and I don't approve of it now. The man has spent his life serving his country, and the best I can tell he did it quite well. There is not one of you can match his record, so leave that alone.
Second, as has already been pointed out, this doesn't stop him from being called to testify before Congress. Not no way, not no how.
Third, if Eric Kantor knew about this before the election and didn't go running to everyone who would listen to tell them, then you have one very politically savvy guy who concluded that this wouldn't help Republicans and wouldn't hurt the Obama campaign.
Fourth, why would it help Republicans and hurt Obama? If Eric Kantor had gone public before election day, what would he say? "I have information that the FBI is in the middle of an investigation of whether the D/CIA is having an extramarital affair. The Director of the FBI himself is monitoring it. It doesn't look like there's anything criminal going on, though." Not exactly an October surprise; in fact, it makes it look like government is doing its job -- well, except for Kantor, who is leaking non-public information turned up by the FBI that is very personally damaging to a number of people who have committed no crimes.
Fifth, if you are still talking about Benghazi, please, at least take a few moments to inform yourselves. CNN has a timeline of everything the administration has said about Benghazi from day one. There was no cover-up. Given the fact that the principal participants in the event from our side are dead, the administration's comments were prompt and accurate. The possible role of the movie trailer was mentioned in the earliest comments but so was the fact that it was an orchestrated terrorist attack. Also, the emerging timeline of the CIA and military response shows that there was no order to stand down anywhere. The worst you can say is they should have predicted this, but hey, who knew they wanted to fly airplanes into buildings, right? I'm not sayin'.... I'm just saying.
And guess what? Obama is still the president. Neener, neener.
Typical NBC and government BS.
They knew long before the election.
BUT, that was not the issue.
And not the question.
Why did Kelly receive the e-mails from Broadwell?
Why did the FBI get dragged into something so trivial?
Why could this not have been handled at a local level?
Why was the timing so close to the election?
Why was the timing so close to the Benghazi inquiry?
I can probably answer a few of these.
Broadwell thought Kelly was a threat, and tired to conceal her e-mails while she told her (Kelly) more or less, "hands off
this is my man".
Love is blind.
But, WHY did Kelly go to the FBI?
Perhaps, because Petreaus was mentioned in some way in the e-mails?
And if she were a true family friend, perhaps she wanted to only help?
Or is there a deeper darker scenario going on here?
Stay tuned.
This is great post. Why was this case even investigated if it is now considered not even a legal case? I mean seriously. The woman is a part time volunteer at Dill and a housewife.
My first response to the FBI is this. You obviously have too many men sitting around with nothing to do if you took on this case and worked it for months. I think we have found a great place for Paul Ryan and the republicans to go if they want to cut the budget because these guys have way too much time on their hands.
Second. I think we can cut the CIA budget as well. Pictures of Angie Jolie for Broadwell's Facebook wall sent by the good general. (That was in another article.) Reportedly hundreds if not thousands of X rated e-mails sent by the director of the agency. Seems like a lot of play time going on at Langley as well. And good to know we have special quarters for the fawning think tankers over that go over to Kabul. Wonder if the young men getting killed every day there are treated that well.
The biggest joke is that both the GOP and the Dems are so married to the "legend" of David Petraeus that both parties will want to sweep this under the rug and it will continue to be business as usual.
Obama (if that is his name) knew all about this matter a long time ago.
To find out how long ago find out when Obama (if that is his name) told everyone that the General was likely to be Romney’s choice for Veep.
And that is how long this deceiver in the Oval Office knew about the slimy matter.
Now if Romney had selected the General wouldn't this info have been released as the October surprise?
I question whether the dates reported by the FBI are accurate.
But then the regime lies about everything who can believe anything they say.
Viewer_Ready-- thanks for listing all the current ongoing questions we all have, except for one: WHY is an extra-marital affair cause to resign? I don't get that part.
Because the head of the CIA can't be allowed to keep their job if there is even the hint of a possibility that they might be blackmailed.
Perhaps because anything in any way connected with the director of the FBI, and the harassed woman and her husband were friends of the Petraeus family, is considered a matter of national security.
I certainly agree that there was more at work here than a simple, extra-marital affair. But let's not assume as yet that this the tip of the iceberg of some vast, hidden conspiracy.
Annie,
That is because you are a woman...(and by the way, my wife agrees with that assessment) your nature is to always disbelieve the man. Plus you have no understanding of security clearances. I have one and they require model behavior as a citizen and government representative. He knew the rules and chose to step down... because he is a good man and superb AMERICAN!
Viewer,
did you not read the entire article?
You gotta be Republican and looking for anything that would throw more dirt at the President.
And the republikans and their dedicated propaganda organization, Fux ARE looking for anything that would hurt Obama. Anything. Their obsessive focus on the Libyan incident and the Obama State Department is in marked contrast to the deafening silence from Fox over the Bush administration's incompetence and dead silent secrecy following 9/11. We might as well get ready for a renewed 24/7 focus on Obama hatred from Fux and their minions as they groom their new champion, little Marco Rubio, for 2016.
Petraus had an affair. Wow. I guess service men haven't changed a bit over hundreds of years. I'm shocked.
Looks like black mail to me. Pure and simple blackmail. All the earmarks. What I am saying has absolutely no political bias on my part. Men in business and politics do this sort of back stabbing crap all of the time. This is a cover-up, pure and simple. The media will report what it is told is the truth. That's too bad too, they had one more chance to actually investigate and report.
Eh... 50% isn't bad, right? No it isn't bad, it's the worst. I'm suprised people don't rise up and demand better than this.
"Josh Brogan"...If that's his reeaalll name (and we know it isn't!) is really one of the aliens known as "the Grey" who want to turn the human population into cattle and slaves. "Josh Broden" (If that's his reeaalll name) has been following "Obama" in hopes of getting a close observation of the president's forehead to see if there are tell-tale lines alluding to a small hatch. A hatch that is the door to the cockpit residing in the skull of "Obama" because there is NO WAY a mere human could be so smart. Think about it! The mothership and the invasion force is waiting on the other side of the sun THIS MINUTE!
3 score&4 - I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong. There isn't ONE thing you said that was correct. As your wife tells people, "the only exercise my husband gets is jumping to conclusions."
3score&4...
Ay, 3score. I really feel bad for you and your brainwashed wife. Gender has nothing to do with understanding security clearances.
I am a woman and my nature is not to always "disbelieve the man." In fact....I trust mine and those I work with quite a bit, thank you.
I feel sorry that you gave your wife (and the women around you) a reason to hold that viewpoint, however.
Oh damn Viewer_ready! You've figured it out! You must be part bloodhound - because we were trying to keep this thing under wraps, but you managed to sniff it out! You're good!
Sincerely,
The Mainstream "Liberal" Media (A subsidiary of liberal corporations such as Viacom, CBS Corporation, Time Warner, News Corp, Bertelsmann AG, Sony Corporation of America, NBCUniversal, Vivendi, Televisa, The Walt Disney Company, Hearst Corporation, Organizações Globo and Lagardère Group).
Maybe Patreaus lost his job because people in positions such as his have a basic, very simple duty to maintin their integrity. I don't think it is any simpler than that.
Neither does a former top CIA employee who is now a commentator on CNN. I can't remember his name but he said a few days ago that some CIA commanders have had affairs before and none of them resigned.
He believes that there is much more to this.
@Josh Brogan.....your idol Myth Robme would have just prayed this all away and then bought her company and fired her.
Affairs can lead to blackmail, which can lead to security issues. In the old days it was common for the Soviets to throw a young hottie your way...and as your pants come down, so to your walls.
While not a crime - He is at the top of the CIA. If employees below him can be fired or have their security clearances revoked due to lying and/or having affairs. Then he should be held to the same standards. There is no room for Hypocrisy when it comes to National Security. He knows the rules and choose to break them. He did the right thing by resigning.
As for having to answer questions on Benghazi - he should still be called to testify in front of Congress to what he knows and put this witch hunt to rest so that the Government can focus on the work of the American people and continue on improving our Economy and Job market.
Republicans grasping at straws and stating that this would have effected the election (in their direction) are wrong.
If this had broken days before the election, Romney would have lost more momentum as the affair would have been of more interest to voters tired of all the political ads. Cantor knew this. No one wanted this out in the press right before the polls.
For those trying to link this to Benghazi, there is no proof of a link. Not in this story and not in others. Hillary already accepted responsibility.
This is no difference than Gary Hart having an affair on his yacht "Monkey Business".
What was Romney going to do? Attack one of the finer military officers in the past twenty or so years. He already had to live down the "I don't care about the 47 percent" when it became apparent that in that number would be military retirees".
Romney lost because he was a poor choice for the party and even their millions couldn't make him look good.
To those asking what's the big deal, I'm pretty sure the Military Code of Conduct makes having an affair a court martial offense. Perhaps a little quaint in this day and age - but still enforced in the military
You can't be blackmailed if everyone knows about it. Seems pretty simple to me. Once again the Odrama lies to the American people, suppresses information and hides negative information until the time is right. He'll step on his d!ck soon enough. No one can remember this many lies.
Eek! The "Robo Collapsers" have struck out against Truth & Free Speech in America once again....Well Please allow me....
revelation began as cyber-harassment probe...Right!
Anyone looking for a nice Bridge to buy? I've got brand new one for you!
Want to know what this is all about? Please allow me to spell it out for you....B..e..n..g..h..a..z..i.... L..i..b..y..a and getting "BeTrayUS" out of having to testify against O..b..a..m..a../..C..l..i..n..t..o..n!
Here's a good link to Lil Davy's "Squeeze" Paula Broadwell that was made just before this "Scandal" broke and probably the Real Cause of her being dragged into and used as the "Excuse" for this 'ghastly mess'!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPaf5OJSskY&feature=youtu.be&t=35m50s
Sorry about that.... now the "Video" of Paula talking in Colorado has "Magically" Disappeared From YouTube! Well it was her speaking out in Denver so "seek the truth" and you will find!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/12/why-did-paula-broadwell-think-the-cia-had-taken-prisoners-in-benghazi/
From CBS....http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57548238/who-is-paula-broadwell/
Hmmm...Like Petraeus, Broadwell is a West Point graduate....Ah yes even "Paula" wears the West Point Ring! Once an Officer always a "Reserve" Officer...That is the LAW!
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm1342.htm
So why aren't "Davy & Paula" being Prosecuted under Article 134 of the UCMJ?
Even more ....http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/11/alleged-petraeus-mistress-suggested-she-was-privy-to-state-secrets.html
This is nothing more than the continuing story about covering up by our Political Minions their Wall Street Overlords Crimes Against America!
Don't believe? watch a Real American Hero General Wesley Clark speak and then a new PBS Documentary......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw&feature=g-all-f
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I
If you don't understand what has been done to US and our children's future after watching these links....You willfully CHOOSE NOT TOO and are as guilty as the Terrorist on Wall Street!
"He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.” ~George Orwell, 1984
So what was Kelley being harassed about in the e-mail (which appears to have happened after the separation of Petraeus and Broadwell) that so far has not been mentioned in the news? Was there more to Kelley and Petraeus relationship, other than just friends??? Did Kelley have something to do with the ending of Petraeus and Broadwell's affair? Was Broadwell jealous about Kelley and why? It appears as if the agent jumped too soon when telling the Republican Congressman before the investigation was finished. Was he trying to stir up a problem with the election results, since the agent reported the incomplete case to a Republican Congressman in the House? I don't believe for one moment that the agent was removed from the case just because he knew an associate of one of the people being investigated. The whistle blowing agent started talking inappropriately outside the Agency office/rules without first following the Chain of Command within the Agency, and before all the facts were gathered. Again, what were the real motives for the agent reporting to a House Republican Congressman so early, esp. if it was later determined that there were no threats to the U.S. security, etc.? Since the situation was obviously not a threat, then why go to the Republican Congressman, other than to stir up some problems with the election results? Finally, no candidates are responsible for another man's inability to keep their pants zipped which is why the situation should not have had an effect on the election results, unless a Party were trying to create doubt in the voter's minds before all the facts were reported, or were involved themselves with one of the two in the past. There's more to this than what we have been told?
To Ssnake (Post # 2.22), MUW (Post #2.23), Radical Right Wingers, etc.
Oh, but you certainly must have had great difficulty believing all of Romney's/ Ryan's hourly lies and flip-flopping.
To suggest that another person is an American Terrorists just because they may have a different opinion from yours just shows how simply narrow-minded some people can be. That sounds so typical of the Right Wing Radical Republicans to insinuate that one may be a traitor to the past, present, and future for not agreeing with you or your negative thinking "Party of Divide to Survive and Conquer". America is sick and tired of the bickering, insinuations, etc. Eventually, the votes, confidence, and support are lost for the trouble making Party's agenda and policies. You've cried "wolf" too many times, which becomes "Passe"!!!
Sorry guys! It was the Republicans who rejected and placed the cutbacks on security, etc. Trying to pin that one on Obama/Clinton is so pathetically passe'! Of course most Americans fully realize how Republicans feel that Obama is to blame for everything (maybe even Romney's hourly flip-flopping lies as well). Finally, just because Petraeus resigned, he still can testify, and he can be subpoenaed as well. So quit making a "mountain out of a molehill" for public attention, or 5 seconds in the "hall of fame".
#176 - Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:15 PM EST
Interesting that the agent went to a GOP Congressman rather than the whistleblower organizations? Was their a political motivation? Going to Eric Cantor especially. He is not known for ethics. Maybe someone had another goal in mind. Bob Woodward just came out and said that it looks like Petraeus' own investigation found the White House was telling the truth.
To An Obviously UN An Independent Thinker
This story is about Petraeus Suppressed Emails / Investigation and "Obama / Clinton's Covering up this "News" and their Involvement in Crimes Against America by Covering Up the Links to the murder of our Ambassador in Benghazi Libya, using his / their "Dead" bodies as a Publicity Stunt and then the subsequent failures to be truthful about their "Failures" afterwards, not the "GOP" (no matter how much you wish it was)!
So please keep up and follow the little red bouncing ball......
As I said earlier "At Least President Nixon Had The Honor To Resign" you Democrats just keep making excuses for the Obomination and his/ their Crimes of "Cover-Up"?!
Psst Folks have you ever noticed how all of the Posters who put Independent in their nickname invariably are not?
"Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." ~George Orwell
Who is Paul Ryan?
Psst!! MUW (Post # 2.28):
Obviously the truth hurts, and puts wholes through your political philosophy (if it's even worth being called that). It has been so apparent that Republicans like yourself just can't take criticism and the truth! Haven't you noticed by now that most Americans are not interested in following the radical right wing, Republicans trite rhetoric, manipulative mantra, or to follow pitiful bouncing little red ball over the bridge to nowhere? I'm sure losing nationwide ground is what really upsets you Pubby's the most, rather than the common insignificant affairs in D.C. (a Republican one this time, too). Radical Republican control is more to your liking than what freedom means to most Americans, who see through the Republican political scams filled with lies. It's people with such extremist attitudes that is an example of why the Republicans have been such a "Notorious Obstructionist" for the last 4 years. "A Party of No and Do Nothing"!! Such people would rather destroy and divide this Country with a bad credit rating, ignore the 47%, etc., etc. before capitulating or working together with the Democrats for the good of this nation, and not just the 2% elite! Now try this on for size: "There are none so blind as those, who won't see!" It's time to face the facts that obstructionism and corporate elitism campaign money failed miserably and with disgrace for at least the next 4 years. We are and will always remain a Nation of many beautiful colors/races, religions, and opinions/beliefs. Americans have demonstrated that no particular person or group has the right to shove their own personal agenda down the throats of all others, esp. without hearing their view point. And you are the perfect example of a Republican not wanting to hear other opinions not agreeing with you. Try reading clearly (if that is even possible) Post #2.25 and 2.26 again. Find a better hobby rather tearing down or dividing our Country by making a "Republican Mountain out of a Molehill". If Congress wants to question the General, they can do so regardless of his current status, which you obviously did not know, or wanted to admit. You need not reply, there are more important things to be done than wasting more time with your narrow-minded comments that offer no real solutions or suggestions.
How low in the trench will the Pubby's stoop to call the Benghazi a publicity stunt?? Pretty far!!
"investigation ended 4 days before election"
Bullsh!t! The FBI is raiding Broadwell's home now! Ended?
Well, actually to be current, the FBI has confiscated items from her home as of tonight. So all is not over, nor has all been told. Don't be surprised upon hearing tomorrow that Kelley (also married) was/is involved with an extra martial affair herself (could it be a triangle?)
To MUW (Post 2.23):
To quote just one of your incorrect errors:
100% wrong!!!! An officer remains "On Call" after service only for a limited period of time, which is not forever as you so claim.
To quote another one of your incorrect statements:
If you read the article clearly (or even read any of it at all, which is most likely the case), the same article states:
Looks like that quickly answers your question! Secondly, If an officer is retired, or fully separated, it is not legal for the military to prosecute such persons in a non-duty status for events that took place long after the separation, esp. if the affair is not considered an offense even though it is considered unacceptable behavior (as is the case with an officer fraternizing with an enlisted member).
So please do get your facts straight before spouting off with something that you are apparently not even familiar with!!
Why in the world is this not headline news? Eric Cantor bypassed National Security, during an election period, to not inform on a Republican national hero who was outed by a Republican ' whistleblower Rep. Dave Reichert, R-Washington', for a period of weeks? And this so called national hero failed to alert authorities, the President, and/or the commitee for National Security he had possibly compromised his job until he was outed, but hey, the White House, the CIA AND President Obama are thought be the head of some massive cover-up? So now one can only wonder...did Cantor the pitt bull of the righteous inform Rove, the Koch brothers, (since they are his employers)? Did he notify Mitch McConnell, Romney or Boehner prior to notifying the FBI ? Was this arranged complicity at the risk of National Security to not shake up an election? For the sake of politics our country was at risk, and the hero should have been given the boot, not allowed to resign. As far as Benghazi goes: Ask Cantor,he seems good at betraying his President and country.
@americaninozland A very apt reply to all the Obama haters that post drivel. a very nice and fresh look at the events AS WE KNOW THEM!!! I love to bookmark trolls that post here so I can read their spins to blame Obama or anything that goes against their archaic beliefs...and then to check on their rants after more information becomes known....it's good stuff but mostly repetitive..but hey, it's a hobby :) ...just sayin;)
Once again I am ashamed of my fellow residents of my Congressional district for re-electing this POS. I certainly didn't vote for him and neither did my husband. We voted for his challenger. I wish the blind party-first people in this area would WAKE UP and realize this guy is a dirt bag who doesn't care about the people of his district. But that would take a miracle.
I also don't understand the people who insist on coming up with conspiracy theories. Investigations (the Benghazi one and this one) TAKE TIME. We've seen the results of the investigators releasing just a small amount of information. The low-information voters (who mirror their party's heads in remaining in an information vacuum) just repeat the lies that they are spoon-fed via one particular cable channel, several different radio personalities and what probably is an AVALANCHE of chain e-mails that originate not with news agencies but with bloggers.
Why, oh why would you make this a republican issue? This is a real event, and people were KILLED here, TORTURED. Ya know, pain, suffering, ugly, horrid hours of it? The soldiers that came to help Ambassador Chris Stevens were lucky, if they were killed with a bullet. It would have been a merciful death compared to what Chris suffered. And he was left out on a limb by this administration, get that. Obama hater, bull, what a cop out on your part. Now you want to play the hater card? Do you not see how you add to the fog?
The Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton asked for reinforcements a week prior to the attack. This falls squarely on the shoulders of the POTUS. The fact that he has lied to cover it up, and was probably advised to do so tells me we need to get rid of a few people. And that is sad, so sad because it means he won the election under horrible false pretenses. We aren't talking money passing hands here, we are talking TORTURE of an Ambassador. He won over another man's dead, and tortured body.
Ten to one, there was some gun running to Syria behind all of this, on that I am guessing. I'm also suprised Hillary didn't speak out on this though, but I understand she felt like she would be ratting out on the Democratic party. Well, that's just wrong too. I admired Hillary... I thought she'd done a cracker-jack job, and I am an Independent. But covering up for the POTUS, or to secure her own chances in 2016 isn't a good enough excuse. I thought she was better than that. Bill Clinton was right, she should have seperated herself from this maddness. But she didn't.
We all make mistakes but to lie about it, and ruin someone's career to boot? Petraus asked for back-up. Now he's trash. You tell me, what was the right thing to do? Lie? See how it grows? See how these lies affect all of us? Now what? How can we look at the President as a leader? Who is the good guy, and who is the bad guy?
Chris Stevens was not tortured. That is lie. See the report here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/stevens.asp
Like it or not, Romney won. Obama can't be re-elected. Benghazi has nothing to do with Petraeus at all.
There is no linkage.
It's an affair plain and simple.
But desperation and sour grapes will make some grasp at anything and make it an issue. Yet Bain farming out yet another company to China wasn't in their eyes.
Very odd.
sygh - Again you only have half the story correct. First SOS Clinton as for reinforcements of all Embassy's this was not an Embassy. Secondly it was proven that the Ambassador died of smoke inhalation and was not tortured (while I agree it was extremely maddening to see his body dragged through the streets and disrespected).
I do find it disingenious the outrage by many for the killing of 4 American's (that knew the risks that their position/jobs held) especially in such a voilital location. There are numerous Americans right now in harms why that if attacked may or may not survive or receive additional timely back up support. It's called war and as we are continously told we are still at war with Terrorist.
The photos right-wingers claim was his body being dragged through the streets were actually of Libyan civilians taking him to a hospital.
Hahahah and it is only getting worse! Not even NBC can cover "this" scandal up.....Feinstein asks for Petraeus' Libya report.....Now even Democratic Senator Feinstein is getting into the act!
Can you say Cover Up....Cover Up....Cover Up....Cover Up....Cover Up...Cover Up...Cover Up?
Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee says the panel is entitled to see his report, if complete, after the Benghazi attack and that the Petraeus sex scandal investigation is "like peeling an onion....And just think the "Obama Administration" knew about and "Covered Up" these "Crimes" just before the "Election"!
Impeach Obama 2013....At least "President Nixon" had the Honor To Resign!
“Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. ” ~ George Orwell
Misty Lundberg
Why is this a public issue? It's none of our business. This is between himself, his wife, and his mistress. End of story. There are better and more important things to report on these days.
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That's funny. I bet you didn't say that when Clinton was caught in an affair.
He was impeached for what? Lying about a b l o w-job so that his wife wouldn't find out about it.
Article 1: The president provided perjurious, false and misleading testimony to the grand jury regarding the Paula Jones case and his relationship with Monica Lewinsky.
Article 3: The president obstructed justice in an effort to delay, impede, cover up and conceal the existence of evidence related to the Jones case.
Clinton was not impeached for lying. He was impeached for who he lied to.
Article 4: Everybody lies, especially about sex, and who in hell cares whether he got a blow job or lied about it except someone with an ax to grind. Compare with lies about policy affecting the public from the Reagan administration.
Don't be so hasty to judge others by your own standards.
You can't justify a bad act by pointing to another bad act ... they are both bad.
Actually -- only the house "impeached" Clinton on only 2 charges.. he was acquitted at the Senate "trail" and not removed from office - requires a 2/3rd majority for that............
All this was on party lines................................
read into this what you will.......... Lots of these "congressional" actions with personal/sex basis pursuits are wasting time when we have more serious issues to deal with in many other areas..
“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.” ~ George Orwell
By the time the Obama / Clinton / Benghazi Scandal finishes playing out Barry will be lucky if he is not imprisoned and Billary will be lucky to be elected "Dog Catcher" in 2016!
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57513270/remains-of-libya-attack-victims-return-home/
Remember Obama / Clinton posed for a "Photo Shoot" over the dead body of Ambassador Stevens and then Billary had Ambassador Rice Cover Up for them both by claiming it was done "spontaneously"!
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/16/13896494-ambassador-rice-benghazi-attack-began-spontaneously?lite
Talk about a 'ghastly mess'!
Demand Justice be restored in America.....Impeach Obama in 2012 and Imprison Clinton for "Perjury" in 2013!
“We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right.” ~ George Orwell
Most women will f u-c k anything for the right price.
It must be the power because Petraeus, like most Republican men caught in affairs, isn't handsome at all. He looks like a character from the movie "nerds".
I'm guessing the price to you must be high.
Larry---Sorry you've chosen to surround yourself with the wrong type of woman your entire life.
Larry
Is that why you are alone so much every night?
This is nothing new. Military people are notorious for cheating on their spouses.
Petraeus just got caught. Why? The usual reason, a possessive, vindictive female.
She built a nest in his office and just couldn't stand the thought of another female clearing out her nest and making her own.
Men, before you cheat, know the w h o r e of your eye.
#6 Larry-nc
You go ahead and focus on the affair, just like you are supposed to. I'm so shocked by your language. Not. It does however tell me much about your character, your background, and your choices in life.
Women will lay with anyone, hummm? Again, this tells me more about you than it will ever tell me about what women are willing or, not willing to do. A nest!! HAHAHAHA!! Oh, the laughter you have brought to me this rainly morning. And over such an important issue, one that seems to evade your abilites.
Not going to waste another moment trying to explain.
Larry-nc-2418660
This is nothing new. Military people are notorious for cheating on their spouses.
Ignorant statement.
Uh-oh....someone's obviously trying to overcompensate for um...something....with this noxious anti-troop, anti-female vitriol. ;-)
You are so right. Petraeus got caught because his crazy mistress was jealous about his friendship/relationship with another woman. Now, we understand that the emails were sent while the affair was going on. Kelley had no idea who was sending the emails therefore she notified the authorities. If she knew it was coming from Broadwell and Petraeus had an affair with her, she would have never contacted the authorities. She would have gone to Petraeus and he would have handled the matter. This whole thing was just unfortunate and because a man felt the need for a little adventure. He should have paid an escort, they are usually very discreet and have no jealousy.
sigh....men being led by the other head. Sad end to a distinguished career.
yep....couldn't agree more, and now that it's been revealed that he carried on with the Kelley woman as well, my sympathies for the distinguished Patraeus grow less by the day.
Lol....General Patraeus must have "something" special that the rest of us aren't privy to.
Makes you wonder,now that the 2 woman have been outed, how many more did the guy carry on with?
I don't feel sorry for mistress #1 or 2---but the generals wife has my sympathies, as do any minor children involved in this unfolding soap opera. The mistresses of general patraeus deserve any and all misery headed their way. No good ever comes from an extra marital affair.
I'd ask all the parties involved in this pitiful saga the time honored question....
"Was it worth it?"
I don't know about worth it, however, I can say it's understandable if you simply put his wife and mistress side by side. This isn't meant to be mean. Just a statement of fact.
These military guys who make it to high ranks and rack up all kinds of accomplishments are a different breed. West Point graduate (top 5% of his class), Honors graduate of the Army Rangers School, PH.D. in International Relations, US commander of ISAF, Commander USFOR-A (US forces in Afghanistan), Commander USCENTCOM, Director of the CIA - just to mention a few. They don't get there because they are passive pussies. They are full of hubris, confidence, aggression and yes, testosterone. I'm not condoning the actions, just saying I understand them.
His wife I think was the daughter of the Dean at West Point, I have seen posts that said he married her for reasons other than love, who knows? Yes, she is not an attractive woman and Broadwell is younger and attractive. In one picture, I thought his wife was actually his mother but she doesn't deserve to be cheated on just being she is not attractive. He is not prize either, I think Broadwell was drawn to the power and his status.
that's what I was thinking Ruth...this story gets weirder by the day...and now the addition of a "bored socialite", and another top General who sent her a shirtless photo?! The truth is stranger than fiction.
To my mind...Paula Broadwell's running a few bricks short of a load,and I agree with your point that ms. "broad-is-not-so-well" may have become obsessed with the 70 year old general Patreus,a man old enough to be "her kindly old Uncle".
There are NO prizes in this story....I'm sure the spouses/family members of everyone concerned must be reeling with each unfolding page of this tawdry soap opera.Makes you wonder how much more there is to follow.And can the average Joe follow the "bouncing arrows" so to speak?
The only one that I could imagine enjoying all this attention must be the "bored socialite".Every socialite enjoys attention,whether it be good or bad. And attention,after all, is still attention,yes?
Still such a sad story--again I'd ask all the parties involved (and the list seems to be growing )...
WAS IT WORTH IT? Unfortunately,while most say it's none of our business, the media has made it our business.....reputations have been forever tarnished,and families broken.
Too little,too late.
My question is how come the FBI notified Eric Cantor and not the President ?
I believe it's called "plausible deniability."
We don't know what went on because they won't tell us. it is national security and if they tell us it is like telling the Taliban.
denver bill 2, I noticed several of your posts. Intelligence and wit are a rare combination.
Congratulations, you got it backwards.
A whistle-blower notified a member of Congress, who notified Cantor. Cantor then contacted the FBI.
General Petraeus discovers "shocking" testosterone secret...becomes a ladies man and home wrecker...
The shocking testosterone secret is that PMS is a mitigating factor in a crime ..... testosterone is an aggravating factor.
Am usually at work by this time, & rarely read buncha rambling mumbo-jumbo. My thoughts:
1. President Obama KNEW of David. P affair BEFORE it happened...some right-wing KOOK conspiracy theorists called down aliens from a far away galaxy who can look into future...& they told him!!!
2. Am retired from the Army (21 years), & have been married for over 38 years, & have never had an affair. So, Larry, stmt of "Military people are notorious for cheating on their spouses." is a crock of horse feces...sorta like people who make such stmts...
Gotta go - Black Helicopters are buzzin the house...
Stan,
Agree. FBI files. That's the way it is. Put a strangle hold on your opponent. Wipe out his credibility.
I served too, the Army. While in the military, I was advised to keep my own log of events as they unfolded; it was good advice, so, I did. I didn't use it against anyone though, and luckly, I never had to defend myself.
Oh, you republican conspiracy nuts, you see conspiracy involving the President around every corner. You cannot accept that a majority of your fellow citizens decided to reelect Obama. Rather you want to blame the President for everything you think is wrong or going wrong, Oh no I burned the toast, it must be Obama's fault for enticing me to read some of this drivel.
SIESTASIS,
If you are defending these actions, you can't tell a real problem from the party hype. What do you think this is, a football game? If your party is gonna be in charge, then let them stand up and let this be transparent. If he's got nothing to hide, he shouldn't sweat it. Oh well, no one left to testify. Gee, that's too bad. Is that what you want? Don't you want a stand-up guy as your President? You think the President doesn't go to the bathroom too? Do no wrong, eh? Perfection. No problems. Did you read the article?
Yes (while still waiting for those tax returns). The guy was embarrassed because of the affair and decided to take his fat six figure taxpayer pension and go home. Huge conspiracy. The tinfoil crowd should go back and see how many high ranking officers resigned because of affairs. There are more than a few.
He was already receiving a pension as a retired military officer. He may not be eligible for a federal government pension because he was not an employee for over 5 years...he may have been able to buy his military time, though.
Dr. Broadwell financed the adventures of Mrs. Broadwell, unbeknownst, perhaps.
And he and the children get to live with it. What a deal.
Mrs. Scruples betrayed Holly, the General, the Dr., and the country. Quite an accomplishment by her own righteous, selfish, venal standards.
Maybe she'll do an e-mails signing ceremony at her West Point reunion--to celebrate what she never learned.
Be assured: when she surfaces from her fugitive status, she'll be perky-chipper as she strolls through the supermarket aisles, sleeveless to the wind.
What a self-absorbed, moral troll.
In the old days, she would have been a disgraced by her conduct apart from her dillying. Fortunately, among some of us, she still is disgrace.
sig-1249... ; Yep, thats about it. I guess the slut & Dear Old David the slut-lover forgot the "Honor" part of Duty / Honor / Country...as well as forgetting the oaths they swore to. I served w/ a lot of USMA grads, one of who just died 2 months ago. To him, Honor was everything...as a Colonel, he refused to back down from a passel of 1, 2, & 3-stars who were trying to "do him in" cuz he refused to kow-tow to them. Almost cost him his retirement after 26 years, but "Big Bert" (as I honorably referred to him) could / would NEVER back down from anything....nor could / would he commit adultery, or lie, etc. He was a Man among Men, unlike Dear David the Eternal Scholar who cleverly avoided combat for 28 years...
Ok. It's quite obvious that Broadwell was banging the General.... The "second woman" is probably a smokescreen...
If Cantor was informed it was probably at the direction of someone in the Administration. I noticed Cantor did not bring this up before the election, probably because he was told the facts and there was nothing to really yelp about in the way it was handled and the timing. If you want to show such righteous indignation about Libya, and yes that was a bad decision and tragedy to say the least, I will give you people and conspiracy theorists credence as soon as you start going after George Bush and Cheney for lying about the Iraq War and the reasons for getting in the war and killing thousands of our young men under false pretense. They really should have been brought up on charges for that...which is worse? lying to get us in a war or the President hiding a BJ from his wife and lying to keep his wife from finding out. HYPOCRITES!!!! This is the reason you right wing nuttys are so dangerous. Oh by the way, we had a surplus before the Iraq War....
US did find Iraq WMD
By DON KAPLAN
Last Updated: 8:57 AM, October 25, 2010
Posted: 12:44 AM, October 25, 2010
There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq after all.
The massive cache of almost 400,000 Iraq war documents released by the WikiLeaks Web site revealed that small amounts of chemical weapons were found in Iraq and continued to surface for years after the 2003 US invasion, Wired magazine reported.
The documents showed that US troops continued to find chemical weapons and labs for years after the invasion, including remnants of Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons arsenal -- most of which had been destroyed following the Gulf War.
In August 2004, American troops were able to buy containers from locals of what they thought was liquid sulfur mustard, a blister agent, the documents revealed. The chemicals were triple-sealed and taken to a secure site.
Also in 2004, troops discovered a chemical lab in a house in Fallujah during a battle with insurgents. A chemical cache was also found in the city.
All of the predictable conspiracy theories coming from the predictable far right and Fox news. Folks this is about a misguided piece of a$$ nothing more. No laws broken just terrible judgment on the part of Petraeus. It has cost him his career. Case closed.
Case closed. ROTFLMAO. How naive. How predictable. I'm an Independent what's my reason for wanting the truth to be told? Why in the world would I want my President to be a stand-up guy? Silly me.
If I were responsible for this mess, I wouldn't hide behind the party, nor would I hide behind Hillary Clinton's pantsuit. And I most certainly wouldn't kill the messenger. We have had enough of that from the previous admin. But then, I guess I demanding good leadership is not something to aspire to. ANd the man has done some darned good things while in office too. I don't agree with all of the things he's done, I have some real differences when it comes to health insurance but geeze. This little ploy rates right up there with Junior Bush. The man in office is there now under false pretenses, and I'm very sorry you'd rather focus on the smear tactic used to shut Petraeus up, rather than the Benghazi tragedy, and the torture of Ambassador Chris Stevens.
I don't mean to put you down, I'm really not trying to do that, its just that I don't see you looking at the President as the person who holds the Oval office, or what it means when smear tactics are used to cover up testimony.
Sygh - Again he wasn't Tortured - Get your facts straight. All Facts are important and should be disclosed to the public, however, don't add to the confusion by repeating false information.
If you're an independent, I've walked on the moon.
Case 1:
> In the end, according to multiple officials, investigators determined there was no criminal wrongdoing.
If this statement pertains to the FBI agent who knowingly contacted, Cantor's office, then why as this agents contact legal?
Case 2:
>> (from above) In the end, according to multiple officials, investigators determined there was no criminal wrongdoing.
If this statement pertains to the harassment of Kelly by Broadwell, then why is this harassment legal?
Is there anyone out there, acquainted enough to comment on whether the FBI reports to the Executive Branch, or just reports to Congress when it feels like it? I would not think to have Congress involved with an FBI investigation, if for no other reason than it is more likely that Congress needs investigation. So exactly why an FBI agent should be calling House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va, is a complete mystery and then some?
Mystery Agent Reports to Cantor (From FBI or CIA?
Found Cantor's Agent?? Sincere Concern or to Curry Favor?
At least Petraeus had good taste and didn't pick someone like Monica Lewinski to have the supposed affair with.
Shrugs.
Thats how the CIA operates in order to check who is probing who.
The FBI got caught poking in the wrong place.
This also brings to mention that if the FBI had been doing their job like they do today then 9.11.01 would not have happened.
Director Mueller needs to go.
He needed to resign. Can't trust someone who would cheat on their spouse. I know, many of you don't agree - because anything goes with you. However, honor, dignity, integrity, and respect is still important to a lot of us. Can't follow a person with poor judgment - especially one in the military. And he needs to testify about the coverup in Lybia. Largest coverup in U.S. history. The ambassador and the 3 other Americans were sacrificed for this election. Breaks my heart. They were heros and deserved help. The truth ALWAYS comes out. Maybe not as soon as most of us want, but the truth will ALWAYS come out. That will affect legacies.
usafirst
David Vitter must resign...
I can see why the general wants some good looking young stuff... But why would a married woman want a big eared, short statue old man??
What do you mean by "Good looking"?? This chick is not Heidi Klum. "Young"??!!!! No, really :)))
No surprise. Non-stop entertainment in the public eye. Got to love the title of the book though.
It has to be Obama's fault. The righties will surely say so. Yet, Cantnor didn't bring it up befor the election? Hmmm, something wrong with this picture? Guess what? There was no conspiracy! The righties won't care about the facts tho, they don't let facts get in their way.
Pw meaning to df
General Petraeus... It's time to play "Taps" on your career ;-)
In a country where more than half of spouses cheat and divorce each other, while lying in the process, this is a hypocritical response to this national hero whose affair had no impact on his job. Those whose lives are pure can criticize, but alas I am not perfect and do not care a twit. Both President Clinton and General Petraeus served their country diligently throughout their terms and should be judged on those criteria, not for a single personal error. I would expect we could fire most people from their jobs if based upon a single personal error.
Not everyone that is married cheats. It's not okay just because some do. Clinton was a disgrace to the office of the presidency and now, so is Petraeus, as a general. Can't believe a word that Clinton says.
I agree with everything you are saying Robert...but the reason Patraeus had to step down was for security reasons. It was written out that any affairs beyond the marriage bed for a CIA agent or operative was OFF LIMITS before this even happened. It puts that person in danger of being blackmailed. Another huge problem according to different sources was the fact that this women was given access to his personal email account at times. That could constitute a national security breach.
While I completely agree with you that personal affairs should be separated from business....when you take a job like the CIA you are held to a higher standard than other jobs and that is understood. He was not blindsided by these rules, nor is he the first CIA head to step down in the face of indiscretion.
He did the right thing.
Robt. Haile this is more than another married guy and married gal having an affair, this is about Benghazi. 4 Dead Americans attacked at the Benghazi embassy. There is a cover-up and it is getting deeper and deeper.
You Tube video my A$$!!!!!!
You don't get to be a General without knowing - and living - HONORABLY. He didn't have any affair. He was told to 'take one for the team.' Had what he knows about not calling in help - and letting those soldiers be the 'sacrificial lambs' that they were - come out - and right before the election, people would be screaming for Obama's head. Impeachment at least. No. This way the General gets his two pensions and gets to 'fade away' like old soldiers do, with a nice life. His wife knows this is b.s., but they both know to go whistleblowing on Obama would have been the setting for a very miserable (if not very short) retirement, so there's my unyielding take on this whole mess. And meanwhile, the media keeps shoveling this out there as if that's going to make their story any more believable.
you're not very bright are you? Eric Cantor knew about everything before the election and didn't say anything.
Man, it's tough for some of us to accept when our superheroes make mistakes.
It's okay. There, there.
Obviously not very bright and easily manipulated.
Pork chop, Petrious would not fall on his sword like that for the Presidential election. There is a cover-up in Benghazi, and POS Obama is acting like we are too dumb to know it. 4 Dead American citizens on American soil. Where's the You tube video excuse now?????
Congratulations. I'm 57, and I've never until now read such ignorance, naiveté, and wishful thinking rolled into one.
This absolutely takes the cake. Someone who actually believes that an office can't achieve general rank without behaving honorably at all times and that no general or admiral in the history of the armed forces has ever had an affair. What merit badge does this qualify you for?
Wow, this post is one of the most outrageous one. Why would a Republican, decorated general, throw away his career and his legacy for a Democrat president? Makes no sense. Why would a mother of two agree to have her reputation dragged to the mud? Makes no sense. Come up with something else.
If there was a national security incident due to him - off to jail. At that point, he's a domestic terrorist.
Nothing like that happened, and its wrong to even suggest it like this without proof. Are we going to judge him in these chat rooms?
The scary thing here is that woman had full access to P as his personal biographer. Who knows what kind of dirt she has on him. She sounds like a crazy person anyway, so it is probably best that he resigned. I am shocked that Cantor knew before Obama, but if it was such a huge cover up I am sure Cantor would have gladly blown the whistle before the election.