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Subscribe to RSSThe FBI discovered that emails received by Jill Kelley, a close friend of the Petraeus family, were sent by Paula Broadwell. And as they dug deeper, the affair between Broadwell and Petraeus came to light. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.
New in this version: FBI search Paula Broadwell's home Monday night; officials say the FBI agent who worked with Jill Kelley, the Tampa, Fla. woman who received anonymous emails from Broadwell, was dismissed from case because he became obsessed with Kelley.
Updated at 11:36 p.m. ET: “Menacing” anonymous emails that launched the FBI investigation which ultimately brought down CIA Director David Petraeus contained references to the “comings and goings” of high-level U.S. military officials, raising concerns that someone had improperly gained access to sensitive and classified information, a source close to the recipient tells NBC News.
The first email sent anonymously to Jill Kelley, the Tampa, Fla., woman who reported the threatening emails to the FBI, in May referred to Kelley socializing with other generals in the Tampa area and suggested it was inappropriate and should stop, according to the source close to Kelley, who spoke with NBC News on condition of anonymity.
After Kelley alerted the FBI, agents began pursuing it as a possible case of cyber harassment or stalking. "The thought was she was being followed," the source said.
The anonymous emails continued -- sent from multiple alias accounts -- and some later ones in the sequence contained references to Petraeus, though not by name, the source said.
What most alarmed Kelley and the FBI, the source said, were references to "the comings and goings" of high-level generals from the U.S. Central Command, which is based at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, and the U.S. Southern Command, as well as Petraeus -- including events that were not on any public schedule. This raised the question as to whether somebody had access to sensitive -- and classified -- information.
Moreover, the sender of the emails had "covered her tracks pretty well," the source said.
Some members of Congress are saying that they or, at the least President Barack Obama, should have been told about the investigation of the director of the CIA while it was going on. NBC's Pete Williams reports.
Multiple government and law enforcement officials have told NBC News that FBI agents traced the emails to Paula Broadwell, Petraeus’ biographer. In the course of the investigation, the agents also discovered emails between Petraeus and Broadwell that were indicative of an extramarital affair, they said.
The source close to Kelley said that she had never met Broadwell and had no idea who she was. The source also stressed that Kelley has been active in multiple social events in the Tampa area and is purely a social friend of the Petraeus family.
Meanwhile, it has come to light that the FBI agent contacted by Kelley about the emails she received from Broadwell was removed from the case. According to officials, the agent’s supervisors said he had become infatuated with Kelley and had sent her shirtless photos of himself.
The FBI remains involved in the case, however. On Monday evening, plain-clothed FBI agents arrived at Broadwell’s home in Dilworth, N.C. around 9 p.m. Monday night for what a senior law enforcement official called a “consensual search.” The official said the search is not a raid and “not a game changer.”
Rather, the official said that the FBI is being thorough as it finishes its investigation into Broadwell and whether she violated cyber-stalking or cyber-bullying laws.
The investigation of Petraeus has concluded. Law enforcement sources tell NBC News that Petraeus is not under investigation and that they don't expect their inquiry will result in criminal charges.
The search of Broadwell's home is not expected to yield information that would lead to charges against her, the official said. At the house, agents did not respond when reporters asked for their affiliation, although WCNC in Charlotte, N.C. confirmed they were with the FBI.
NBC News has been unable to reach Broadwell for comment.
The FBI confirmed it conducted a search of the home of Paula Broadwell in relation to the investigation former CIA director David Petraeus. MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell discusses with Jon Meacham, author of the new book, "Thomas Jefferson: The Art of Power," and Jane Mayer, a staff writer for The New Yorker.
The new information offers clues about how federal investigators could connect a handful of anonymous emails to Broadwell, a trained intelligence officer who spent years working with some of the most secretive agencies in the world.
Federal officials who spoke with NBC News on condition of anonymity on Monday said it took agents a while to figure out the source. They did that by finding out where the messages were sent from -- which cities, which Wi-Fi locations in hotels. That gave them names, which they then checked against guest lists from other cities and hotels, looking for common names.
That led them to Broadwell, they said, noting that the pattern coincided with her travel to promote her book.
Finding the location from which the emails emanated would not have been difficult, experts say.
Some webmail services, including Yahoo and Microsoft's Outlook.com, send user IP addresses across the Web with every note, according to privacy researcher Chris Soghoian, a senior policy analyst at the American Civil Liberties Union. Those IP addresses can be used to track the physical location of a computer user connected to the Internet, sometimes without the help of an Internet service provider.
Broadwell had used a Yahoo account publicly in the past. If she used a new, fake Yahoo account for some of those anonymous emails, agents would have had an easy time gathering a list of IP addresses from the threatening emails Kelley provided to them. And even if she had used Gmail or another service that doesn't "leak" IP information, an FBI agent could have obtained such information by calling Google with a subpoena, the experts said.
ISAF via Reuters file
Meet the people who have been pulled into the scandal that caused Gen. David Petraeus to resign.
Once there was evidence to link Broadwell to the emails, agents would have had little trouble proving probable cause and getting a warrant under the provisions of the Stored Communications Act, which would allow them to access any emails sent or received during the prior 180 days. Agents could also have sought a wiretap order and monitored Broadwell’s email in real time, though wiretaps are more challenging to obtain, and there is no indication that agents took that step.
Soghoian said the successful cyberhunt for Broadwell shows anonymity is much harder to preserve than many Internet users realize.
"We see this again and again. We saw it with the Anonymous (hacker) arrests last year. The lesson for the rest of us here us you have to go through a lot of steps to maintain anonymity, and you only have to screw up once," said Soghoian. "The FBI was able to pierce the veil of anonymity even for someone who's been trained. The government only has to get one clue. You have to be successful 100 percent of the time (when trying to hide)."
NBC News Justice correspondent Pete Williams contributed to this report.
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another man that cant keep it in his pants really head of the CIA I think your right if a woman can bring this guy down they should be using her lol
Drip Drip Drip...... No not that kind. The information drip on this case. Every day a little more comes out. Since Republicans Cantor and Reichert knew 2 weeks before the President, somehow I don't see a political advantage for them. If Cantor thought he could get anything on Obama before the election he would have spilled his guts. The more we hear the more we know what should have been closely guarded secrets were public knowledge. Is this going to be the leak everyone thought was coming from the White House.
Broadwell herself made this public by disclosing Classified information in personal e-mail. She put Petraeus's schedule in them and spoke about classified UN-vetted information to students. If not for this information the FBI would not have investigated a personal affair.
I watched her in an old cspan book stop the other night and she is so full of herself it is unreal.
everything that happens, that ties to Wastington, is always part of a "well" thought out plan....this is just another agenda by those who we "look up" to.....im guessing this is the topic that will be used when they take our military down to nothing but the size and power of one city police force, same as telling everyone the right is nothing but white rich people who love to watch you suffer....same style label (demonize) just a different entity
way to convenient...the motto for the last 4 and the next 4
Gee, thanks all you independents who voted in our Idiot-in-Chief for another 4 years. You can't make up this stuff. Obama has already wrecked the economy so it makes sense that now he has his sights on ruining our intelligence and military communities.
Thanks again all you Indies!! I thought you new better.
Will the Cons ever stop crying? Try ice, it helps with the butthurt.
Don't waste your time Chris, the Republican general appointed by shrub to head the CIA cheated on his own vow to his wife ergo cheated on himself, has cheated on his wife, has cheated on his children, has likely done irreparable harm to his family. He had cheated on the nation, he could have compromised the his and other high ranking officials security, to get a little strange from a bat@!$%# crazy, jealous, stalking lunatic, and it's Obama's fault.
Go ahead and try to bring this down to the level of a school yard spat. I donot personally blame Obama for this mess or for that matter the Libyan disaster. However, it does I believe reflect on his(Obama's) style of governing. He never seems to know anything about anything that goes wrong. I suspect he likes it that way. Stay just informed enough to not look totally clueless but don't tell me too much because then I can't claim I knew nothing about it. The old saying "the buck stops here" has been totally forgotten with this White house. Blaming every wrong in Washington on Obama is wrong. However Obama not ever taking responsibility for anything is also wrong. He is sort of like the "cover your arss at all cost boss" who no one respects yet still keeps his job.
Never mind the fact that it was ERIC CANTOR~ REPUBLICAN TEA PARTIER et al who knew ALL about this situation before the election and saw fit to keep it all to themselves. Don't you think Eric-N-Em would have been blowing the whistle at every possible opportunity if they thought they had something that would sink Obama's bid for re-election? No? Then, congratulations. You've ingested too much tea and are now drunk on it. Tighten your tinfoil hat while you're at it. We wouldn't want any facts getting into your numb skulls, now would we?
Right, Mark from VA, and remember the beautiful and wondrous transparency of the Bush #2 administration as it pertained to our military, going to far as to censor any images of soldiers returning home in flag-draped coffins, and not once discussing unprecedented and rising #s of soldier suicides or the actions of soldiers going haywire in the war arena and killing innocent men, women and children. Yes, Bush #2 was one Hell of a Commander In Chief, if you're completely clueless, that is.
asknreceive-0000 I'm wondering how you went from my comments to your comments? Not sure what Bush #2 or #1 or #21 has to do with what I said.????? I mean have you been waiting all morning to get that message out? What's the deal?
Read your post again, and explain to me how you aren't "blaming Obama for this mess", mmmkay? I also thought it important to point out the failures of the Bush #2 administration as it related to military mishaps and screw ups, but never mind that. Bush #2 never existed, right?
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Chrissy, Anti, AskNReceive:
Blame Bush!! Blame Bush! LMFAO!!
This idiot Obama is in his second term and yet you libbies are still blaming Bush. LOL!!!
Mark Va,
I do blame Obama. I own a company with 90 employees. If a VP f_cks up, it's my fault. If one of my programmers f_cks up, it's my fault. If the janitor f_cks up, it's my fault. And I accept this. If I didn't I would not have built this company over the years. Too bad this Obama clown can't accept the same responsibility.
asknrecieve11054310, Honestly, You are making no sence to me at all. I did not blame Obama for these screwups to use your discription. No more than I would blame a president of an airline for a plane crash. It would however be somewhat refreshing to hear Obama take responceability for something that happens on his watch. Something that is that he does not view as making him look good. Not sure that will ever happen but it would be nice. Have a good day!
Wash DC, the central gubmint, the Pentagon and all the high rankers and the wannabees have been showing us for many years what they really know how to do. Decades before we were putting men on the moon, feeding 25% of the world, champions of democracy, our educations systems were the envy of the world, inventing things like crazy, and more. Now, it seems all our big gubmint is good for is a laugh and a scandal.
Here you go, Tin Foil Hat Gang. Suck on some facts you never cared to acknowledge and/or raise your fists, much less voices about. These pesky things called facts. . .don't you just hate 'em?
Yesterday, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tweeted that Mitt Romney was
right to say the tragic attacks on U.S. embassies on Tuesday were the result of
perceived American weakness:
The attacks on our embassies & diplomats
are a result of perceived American weakness. Mitt Romney is right to point that
out.
— Donald Rumsfeld (@RumsfeldOffice) September 12, 2012
Actually, there were twelve terrorist attacks
on U.S. diplomatic facilities abroad during George W. Bush’s tenure — the most
of any president in history — and eight of those occurred while Donald Rumsfeld
was in office.
The embassy breaches on Tuesday marked the second
attack on U.S. diplomatic facilities during President Obama’s tenure
http://www.thedailydolt.com/2012/09/13/donald-rumsfeld-asserts-embassy-attacks-due-to-perceived-american-weakness-we-then-google-the-number-of-embassy-attacks-under-his-watch/
. . and another little factoid gem you'll never hear about on Faux Noise:
GOP Rep: I ‘Absolutely’ Voted To Cut Funding For Embassy Security
By Ben Armbruster on Oct 10, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT)
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) said today that he voted to cut funding for U.S. embassy security amid political attacks from Republicans that the Obama administration did not do enough to secure the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya that was attacked last month.
Republicans and their allies have been trying to politicize the attack — which killed four Americans, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya — suggesting, without evidence, the Obama administration may have ignored intelligence that the attack was imminent, didn’t properly secure the Benghazi compound and is now trying to cover it up.
But hidden beneath the GOP campaign is the fact that House Republicans voted to cut nearly $300 million from the U.S. embassy security budget. When asked if he voted to cut the funds this morning on CNN, Chaffetz said, “Absolutely“:
GOP
Cut Embassy Security Funding
For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion
for the State Department's worldwide security protection program -- well below the $2.15
billion requested by the Obama administration. House Republicans cut the
administration's request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331
million in fiscal 2012. (Negotiations with the Democrat-controlled Senate
restored about $88 million of the administration's request.) Last year,
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans' proposed cuts to her
department would be "detrimental to America's national security" -- a charge
Republicans rejected. Source: The Drudge Report
Yet when anything positive happens, it's always to someone else's credit. Bin Laden dead = all SEALS. Record amount of illegal immigrants deported = Border Patrol gets the credit. Employment up, stock market up, crime rate down, all of that was due to someone else, right?
If you're gonna dump all the bad @!$%# on Obama, then he gets credit for the good @!$%# too. You can't have it both ways or you're a bunch of f*cking hypocrites.
"The propagandist's purpose is to make one set of people forget that certain other sets of people are human." George Orwell
Ah yes why should Obama / Clinton or Panetta bother relieving them with supposed "cause" like Ham or Gaouette when it is SOooo much easier to just point out their little "Peccadilloes" and remove them from their Command by the "Hint Of Scandal"?
In the "Intel" business they call that kind of a Operation a "Honey Trap" and I think you can probably understand why?
If you won't support an Obama attack in Syria or Iran.....We'll just drag out all of your "Dirty Laundry" and released it to the "Public"!
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. ~John 8:7
Come on Generals & Admirals.....Some of you have plenty of "Scandalous Dirt" to spread around and now is the time for all Good Men (and Women) to defend their Country from Wall Streets Political Tyranny!
If you are going to have to "Fall On Your Sword" why not take a few "Corrupt Politicians" like Obama Bush & Clinton with you?
"We do not merely destroy our enemies; we change them." ~George Orwell, 1984
Or...you're a bunch of leftists. The left ALWAYS has it both ways because they have the media. When Bush was in office, the news reported DAILY the latest death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan. Once Obama came into office, that went away.
Bush didn't do SQUAT about illegal immigration, but he is called a "racist". Obama boasts of deporting far more illegals than Bush, but he's a compassionate hero.
Bush went into Louisiana as soon as the governor's office requested the fed's help after Katrina, and bush got FEMA mobilized rapidly after that, but he was called a racist and didn't care about black people because of how long it took to get help there. Obama riolls into Jersey for a photo op and leaves, and two weeks later people are still without electricity and gas and the media says...nothing. Everything is just fine. No news there.
When gas prices went above $4 /gal. in 2008, the media said it was just because "Bush and his rich oil buddies want more money" and ignored the market forces, speculation and demand that drive prices. When prices went beck up nearly as high under Obama, the news said "It's not the president's fault, it's market forces, speculation and demand that drive prices"
The news media has become nothing more than a left-wing progaganda machine to manipulate the population and elections. That's not liberal at all.
The supposed "left wing media" is owned and operated by right wing fascists, dip@!$%#. Your whole thesis is part of the rightwing brainwash. Wake the F up!
Why did the supposed Left wing media let Cheney get away scot free on the 9/11/2001 "failure" , and let Bush LIE us into Iraq? Because only some of the on air "talent" is left leaning, the corporate executives in the news media, not liberals, decide what gets on the air, not the "talent".
I found this little gem the other day. It helped me to put things into perspective when dealing with people who are incapable of critical thought, like my little buddies above: "To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." ~ Thomas Paine
"Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. " ~George Orwell
Psst Paul-977599 It's "Corporate Media" controlled by "Wall Street Banksters" that sometimes pretend to be "Left Leaning and sometimes pretend to be "Right Leaning" but ALWAYS support their Masters on Wall Street to maintain the Corrupt Political Status Quo in America!
Didn't you learn NOTHING from the Election in 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012 or even 9/11?
Speaking of witch watch a "True American Hero" and "General" speak out against the cause and results of these "Crimes"! Then watch a new PBS Documentary outlining the details.....Afterwards come back and tell US who is really Left or Right!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw&feature=g-all-f
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I
So anyone still claiming the Wall Street Controlled Corporate Media is controlled by the "Left or Right" is obviously not "awake" themselves or trying to be intentionally misleading to help maintain the "Illusion of Democracy" for their Oligarch & Robber Baron Masters still hiding from their "Crimes" against US on Wall Street!
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever." !George Orwell, 1984
@Proud 2B Liberal
I was going to reply to each of your points until I realized it was nothing but all bullsh*t and not worth my time.
I love how appropriate the name Broadwell is to this situation on so many levels. It is almost "Bond" like.
@Proud2bLiberal:
"When Bush was in office, the news reported DAILY the latest death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan. Once Obama came into office, that went away."
Nonsense. Absolutely false. Maybe you thought us leftists couldn't search Google News for "Afghanistan casualties" and see that there are stories as recent as 36 minutes ago.
"Obama riolls into Jersey for a photo op and leaves, and two weeks later people are still without electricity and gas and the media says...nothing. Everything is just fine. No news there."
Another outright lie. Google news search. As recently as 4 hours ago.
Are these just lies that you made up yourself, or maybe, is somebody lying to you?
Google News? LMFAO!!
Liberals. God love em! LOL
Um, hey Bobster, you probably don't know this, but when you do a news search on Google, it gives you results from things like the Washington Post, ABC news... you know, news media.
You didn't know that, right?
Let's see now... I think that gets one of those LOLs.
Maybe even an LMFAO.
@RonB from Pittsburgh
Now you see why I didn't even bother responding to 'Proud''s posts. All he did was dump a load of bullsh*t into the comment box, clicked the spell checker, then hit post. He literally made no sense at all. Then you got 'Bobster' who thinks Google run's it's own media service, so eager to attach Liberal to any insult he can in the slim hope he might actually post something witty. Bad news Bob, you failed.
Cons- There has never been a more apt abbreviation.
Hey Bobster-1557895
I never said it was Bush's fault, I never said it was Obama's fault I was just pointing out the ridiculous partisan finger pointing by both sides. IT IS Petraeus fault, he didn't keep it in his pants and he is not just some person he was head of the CIA, and then decided to have an affair with a bat@!$%# crazy whack job. In his position after her being embedded with him he had to know there were a few screw's loose, he had to know better and he still had an affair with her. Poor judgement is a huge understatement.
@ Chris
It's unbelievable.
I'm quite sure Bobster and Proud will never be seen in this thread again because they've so thoroughly shamed themselves with the total stupidity of their posts. But they'll go on posting on NBC and grapevine, completely undeterred by the fact that they're just making &%$# up.
I wonder what they see as being in it for them? Have they been convinced by their handlers that they will someday be as rich as the Koch brothers?
What the hell are you talking about Cheney "getting away with" 9/11? I didn't know Cheney flew planes into buildings. Douchebag.
You forget that Clinton refused to go after Bin Laden when offered. THAT could have stopped 9/11.Then, when the intelligence agancies from the US, Russia, and other European countries all said Saddam had WMD's. Then, the DEMOCRATS voted to use force in Iraq.
RonB from Pittsburgh,
You know damn well that I was referring to the media drilling some stories into the ground, and virtually skipping others in order to have the effect of swaying mass opinion. Of course you can LOOK UP stories and find them, but most people will not. That's how easy it is to shape opinion.
You people are un-fricking believable!
News agencies may be corporations, but you are REALLY going to tell me the majority of news editors and those who select which stories to run are "RIGHT-WINGERS"?
You are truly delusional!
Chris, care to share how you came by knowledge of that remedy?
At second thought, never mind. Don't want to know.
Did Usama Bin laden fly the planes into the buildings? NO!
Would killing Usama bin laden have stopped 9/11/2001 from happening? NO!
Would have counting all the votes in Florida properly in 2000 have stopped 9/11? Yes.
Who messed that up? JEB BUSH and Kathryn Harris
Who ran security at Dulles Airport and the WTC? Marvin BUSH and Wirt WALKER "W" STRATASEC.Securacom
Yes, most CORPORATE NEWS EXECUTIVES, the guys who run the editors, are RIGHT wingers, dumbass.
Watch the tape of Tucker Carlson refusing to run the tape of WTC#7 imploding for his "guest" Dr. Steven Jones, by LYING and saying that they don't have the video. The CORPORATE "NEWS" Executives had decided that they couldn't let that tape run on their network for mass public consumption, not the editors.
@ Proud
You're correct that one of us is delusional.
Unfortunately, you can't delete your earlier post where you made blatantly false claims about the news media. The best you can do is make new, different claims.
Once again unfortunately, those are also false.
But of course a person would believe the media is biased if the media kept reporting the fact that the things that person believes are lies.
So, the "mailman, pool man" has been replaced by the "biographer!"
Always something new in the world!
This woman is a bad mark against women everywhere. Shame on her.
This woman is a mother, soldier, West Point grad, athlete, scholar and author. She did something bad, but if we had a whole nation like her, we would be formidable.
Yes, I am sure his wife and grown children could not agree with you more. Cripes.
I thought the same thing. All of those attributes and she tuens into a sleeze and we are supposed to have her in high reguard....
Btw a 40 year old woman email bombing a mythical competitor for a man you or not even married to is my idea of a person who went to a lot of schooling and did not learn a thing.
I agree.
IMO She was well prepared to do this.....it was her plan all along....she brings shame to every faithful respectful loyal women in this world....
I hope this lady ends up in a crack house....as for him....oh well. I really dont care because he was not out there trying this on me....he wasnt creeping me out, stalking, or trying to get me drunk to take advantage......he was in fact keeping my brother from being murdered overseas. That is what matters to me.
This whole mess is so disheartening, like the Sandusky scandal, only it involves a highly respected, decorated and brilliant General, our national security, and no kids were harmed in the making of this disaster. It saddens me that power can be so absolutely corrupting and corrosive to ones character and good common sense. It also saddens me that these people never seem to learn anything from the powerful people who've fallen before them in similar fashion and for the same behaviors. What's the deal? Absolutely power corrupts absolutely, that is the deal.
Breadex said it well.
I can't wait for the book to come out and read her part.
How would you like to married to her?
shes just a practice girl..you dont marry those
She has a pretty nice rack on her.
Bobster: that's right. So imagine she walks in the room, stands in profile and bats her eyes at a 4 star general, and he is hers. Bang, he's done. And congress came later and confirmed him to be CIA director job ? Awesome job there Wash DC. He had to be vetted by the FBI before his appointment. They didn't find the thousands of emails to a book writer/editor that he was publicly seen with a hundred times ? She used to fly on his plane with him. So now the latest FBI check says he was no threat to security. The second FBI check is a cover for blowing the first FBI check. And you are supposed to be stupid enough to go with their latest report because, well..... they issued it.
Why did Broadwell harass Kelley?
because she thought Kelly was having sex with Petraeus.
I understand Broadwell's rationale. She is allowed to have an affair with Petraeus, but everybody else can't. Cut me a break!
Because she's prettier than Broadwell.
TTerryftb and sharkey:
Broadwell felt Kelley was to social with the generals on base in Tampa. Now, Gen. John Allen has been tied to Kelley through 'inappropriate e-mails'.
I am thinking a general's swinging club!
Scenario: Broadwell most likely and easily discerned J. Kelley's Email Address from a list (often posted on-line for public access) for one of the many reported social events on and around MacDill AFB, or even if such a list is supposedly closely held for participants only or only for those with necessary access, it is surprising how easily an event executor is often duped out of information. Someone sifting for just such contact data calls the event coordination or administration claiming to be the flower service or caterer and states that Ms. Kelley had provided her Email, but the paper was misplaced and could it be provided again.
I am thinking major set up. Al la "The Net".
You could put a bag over her face but her body looks good.
Because she probably thought he was boning Kelley too... lol. Now, as far as anyone being stupid enough to think all you have to do to keep anonymity on the web is to open a fake yahoo account and email away from your laptop is childish to say the least. How about getting a throw away phone? People are such boneheads..
another man that cant keep it in his pant sure makes one feel secure about the security of the US :(
How about a woman that cannot keep her legs crossed?
@ spike- No kidding! More than likely, she initiated the affair. Not to be mean, but Broadwell is an attractive woman and Petraeus's wife looks like Andy Richter with glasses and a wig. I think most men would have a hard time saying no to someone that looked liked Broadwell trying to seduce them.
During the 2008 elections.. General Patraeus was John McCain's idol.. seemed like McCain's every sixth sentence was General Patraeus and 'The Surge' -- now we know that Patraeus was involved in a different sort of 'surge' and we find out that Patraeus likes girls.. gosh, poor John McCain must be crying himself to sleep at the thought that his idol had a little tet-a-tet.
and Petraeus's wife looks like Andy Richter with glasses and a wig
Cut the lady some slack I think I read they have been married over 30 years. BTW Broadwell is no beauty queen either. She is the kind if someone asks how she looks you say she is attractive then bite a hole in your tongue.
I personally prefer the Beauty of The long-distance transcontinental diaper wearing Lady Astronaut, Lisa Novak.
Jill Kelley does have a nice round booty. Jill is sexy by default.
so your saying he was unable to do his job because he was having sex.....iyo,,is there anyone deserving of anything?.......wow seems like you wish you were video taping it for your 15 and nothing more other than judge anyone but yourself...it what America is best at...judge your neighbor and you will be Godlike in your own lil mind....lol what a joke
Broadwell .... name sounds like a Bond Girl.
broad well/intelligence officer, should not be used in same sentence. How long do we have to see/hear about this crap?
I haven't seen the contents of the threatening e-mails; nonetheless, I don't understand why someone with Broadwell's background wouldn't have had better sense than to send ANY anonymous e-mails. I also don't understand why she and Petraeus didn't act with more discretion; i.e., don't send explicit e-mails. Incredible how people can be very intelligent in some ways and painfully stupid in others.
She reminds me of that crazy astronaut that went in diapers to kidnap her lover’s girlfriend. I really feel sorry for her husband and kids.
A Broad that looks .. well lol
Maybe it wasn't Broadwell that sent the emails...
lol... I know, who's popping out next... Pussy Gallore??? lol
Sunny,
"broad well/intelligence officer, should not be used in same sentence. How long do we have to see/hear about this crap?"
Not too long. The liberal, lamestream media won't cover it since it could hurt their idol Comrade Obama.
Dr. B was upset and hurt when he discovered the wife, Mrs. B, had been hiking the Appalachian Trail for 10 months.
Her response: "Cool it dear. You're just a radiologist."
Q. "Why is Mrs. B like most starlets?"
A. "They all have a great future behind them."
For all the holier than thou types out there...I doubt one man in ten could have resisted that woman. She is fairly beautiful, really smart, very well traveled, athletic as hell and quite a personality. She is a scholar, a West Point grad and not anybody's bimbo. He is a hero who made a mistake. She is an accomplished woman that fell in love with someone she should have left alone. Two families damaged, but these are still a cut above most people who have ever lived.
Married mother of two --- that would make her a slut!
Oh, no they aren't. He can't keep it in his pants and she was harassing someone for what she thought she was doing that she wasn't...and if she had been it was none of the Broadwell lady's business since she really was doing it with him. I don't see any cut above anyone. So she looks okay and is educated, but apparently she missed the whole course in honor and honesty. She is just as much a bimbo as anyone else who does that, and frankly more so since she can't say she didn't know any better. He chose to be a cheater and that doesn't make him about anyone. You seem to have some low personal behavior standards if you think an education and a job make a person above anyone. That comes from within, not from degrees or paychecks.
Hubby will file divorce in his statement released today. He will get the kids, house, everything. She can go to the street corner and push her stuff. How is Barry hiding his affairs, other than Vera Baker? It will come out soon, too many Chicago bath house members to hold it in.
Are you kidding me? So good looks, GPA, and frequent flyer miles 1) trump basic morals and 2) make the person a cut above most people who have ever lived? I don't think so.
How you live your life and the decisions you make are a hell of a lot more important than those superficial qualities because they last. We don't remember dead uncle Bob because he did well in school and was the quarterback, we remember him because he was honest, generous, humble, etc. In other words: inspiring.
Only these two know how things went down, but they both knew the risks that went with that perceived reward. They played with fire and got burned. He trashed his legacy, she trashed her future, both their families were humiliated... No, these two are definitely NOT a cut above most people - just two more names to add to the What Were They Thinking Idiot list.
I don't have low personal standards. I don't need to build myself up by putting other people down. She made a horrible mistake. If you can't see her obvious accomplishments, you are nearly blind.
By the way, it has been my experience that people who no one would want like to interpret their lack of opportunity as virtue.
She is NOT beautiful nor attractive. Don't be so hard up. She is a screw up. Mole faced.
Beauty is hardly an accomplishment. How intelligent is a former intelligence officer who uses web-based emails to conduct a clandestine romance with the head of the CIA and send harassing emails to someone she allegedly considered competition. Even the not-so-bright know how easy it is to trace that kind of communication.
Actually, they had to link up the cities she was in with the IP address that was transited. The woman had to turn it over to FBI cyber to get it traced down. It isn't all that easy, but it can be done. I am thinking Paula asssumed the woman wouldn't report the e-mails, and couldn't trace them herself.
It is easy, especially for those in the know...like the FBI and CIA.
This is fishy!! Ms Broadwell sending harassment email to another women enough to get her upset and call FBI. For someone selling a book, appearing on talk show, promoting the book, and implicating herself and sending email looks like she wants the media to trace it back to Patreus and her. I can hear the money coming to Miss Broadwell. Sounds like Mr. Patreus was used. Very sad for America!!! Another waste of money for petty staff.
An interesting theory, Rick. You may be onto something.
The article suggests that Gmail would have been harder to trace than Yahoo mail, and that struck me as odd when it also pointed out that she used to work in intelligence.
"Hmm, how could I make myself an instant household name?"
BuffaloesRoam, I agree that she is physically attractive. And yes, "Plain Janes" (and Jims) affect virtuous poses to mask their envy. However, the Army basically pays its members to do physical training, so she should be in shape. The US Government and military have plenty of people who are highly qualified on paper, but are shallow and can only mimic true productivity and achievement. In these bureaucratic systems, it is very easy for people who look good on paper to advance. They make horrible decisions, but do not often have to acknowledge or pay for their mistakes, and are backed by the deep resources of their employers. She looks exactly like one of those people to me, and I have seen a lot of them.
Homecoming queen, valedictorian and All-State basketball champ. PhD. An "anti-terrorism professional" who sends threatening e-mails... e-mails at all (duh). Broadwell was accustomed to winning and apparently charming enough to win Petraeous's confidence and affection. Hope you thoroughly enjoy your latest conquest Ms. Broadwell. Way to go.
Both Gen. Petraeus and Mrs. Broadwell have brought shame and embarassment to the United States Military Academy, especially to the Class of 1974 (his class) and the Class of 1995 (her class).
Apparently, He broke it off. Must of known she was a little nuts.
Well General, maybe you could get a job with the Secret Service on the advance team. Just a couple of questions:
1) Can you drink heavily?
2) Can you negotiate with a hooker?
Yes to either one and your in.
Your comments make it clear.. that in the real world; powerful men, and men who are exposed to danger often enjoy the company of attractive women. Actually, it's pretty normal I think -- and it's none of the public's business if you ask me., (as long as it doesn't compromise the actual reason that they were hired to do their jobs). And this is the only situation in which it should involve the public when it does interfere -- if the individual's mission is compromised by sex. I'm not sure that is the case with General Patraeus -- I feel SURE that was not the case with either Bill Clinton or John F. Kennedy .. who also had extramarital affairs but performed their high-wire jobs in amazing fashion. It would have been a shame for America to have lost those two Presidents over an affair.. and I think it's a shame that America is losing the services of General Patraeus over an affair.
For anyone who holds a security clearance, engaging in behavior, any behavior, that exposes the clearance-holder to blackmail is a firing offense. People have been fired for: having affairs, extramarital or not; going too far into debt; mouthing off in public; getting drunk in public; engaging the services of hookers . . . the list is long.
If others have been fired, or asked to quit over such matters, it would be highly inappropriate for the head spook to have been able to beat the rap, so to speak. "All men are created equal," before the law. That's a national principle that our armed services defend.
Publia- you are certainly correct regarding high level government persons having to walk a narrow line when it comes to personal behavior. In this country either they must abstain, which clearly goes against human nature or they must be incredibly circumspect or lose their position.
Now, take a look at the much of the rest of the world. Men (and women I would suspect) of power have affairs. Some openly have mistresses and its no big deal, no one is surprised and they consider it none of their business. Of course here in the states we are equally titillated and shocked...shocked I say. Why, because we are a nation of whiny Puritanical hypocrites.
A wise person once said we are only as ill as the secrets we keep. I believe that goes double for a nation or it's government.
It's amazing how much NBC is spending on this story. Shouldn't your efforts have gone to the actual, more important story of why 4 Americans were murdered in Benghazi and why the Obama's administration refused their repeated requests for help? Oh, and what about our Drone being shot at by Iranian air craft when it was traveling in permitted airspace, and yet we did not know about it until AFTER the election? Americans deserve the truth, don't you think?
One reason may be the conspiracy theories that immediately started circulating which then need to be debunked. As for Benghazi, hearings are underway, and as for the drone? Who cares? Like people would switch their vote because someone was shooting at our drone in the mideast??
I do agree with you that Americans deserve the truth - but I also believe all this time spent on partisan conspiracy theories is a huge waste of time when we have real issues to solve.
Barb210...
This story is popular b/c it talks about sex between someone who might be a spy and the head of the USA's spy agency and was formerly head of central command. Imagine the secrets that could of or possibly have been compromised. This isn't merely a 'mistake'...Patreus set himself and the CIA up to be blackmailed. And Broadwell (married mom of 2) knew very well what she was doing on all levels. really don't believe she "fell in love" with Patreus. Why aren't there charges against Broadwell? She was threatening/harassing Kelley....Can you say cover up!
Barb: Don't mean to de-emphasize the tragedy in Benghazi, but in 1983, Weinberger went on record as saying Reagan's refusal to grant the security he asked for directly caused the deaths of 241 in Beirut. Yet we want to put his head on Rushmore. This thread is about Patreus/Broadwell. You have plenty of other opportunities on this site to bash Obama.
"It's amazing how much NBC is spending on this story." NBC has maintained the Benghazi blackout until this sidebar exploded. Never once did NBC hit Google News with the WHY of the Rice/Obama video ruse. Never questioned it. That continues as of this moment.
don't ever forget the timing on the release of the information and the resignation. if this had been released when the FBI confronted the General, it would have been before the election and put a spin on the Obama regime. it most likely was postponed in order to not create a problem from the Supreme Being!
it may not have a lot to do with Benghazi, but it stinks of politics. even Hillary is in hiding!
Barb 210. I couldn't agree more. The TRUTH. I suspect however that if any of us knew the TRUTH, our heads would be twisted in a way never to return. Study history. The types of people that seek and achieve high political office are ruthless and self-serving. Did I mention psychotic? These are the people we expect leadership from.?? Apply that template to the comings and goings of power and the TRUTH will become self evident and rather frightening. Of course there are exceptions; there must be.
Shouldn't you be more concerned about Attacking the Terrorists rather that attacking the President.. ??
That is the most shocking thing to me about your comments and about Benghazi --- about how much yourself and Fox News want to 'get' the President.. and have NO INTEREST in going after the Terrorists. You guys are about as bad for America as Ayman Al-Zawahiri is.. Fox News ae terrorists who hate America.. and they have brainwashed an Army of Sheep to fight against the Democratically elected leader of this country.. which is akin to Sedition.
RAW, in case you have forgotten Petraeus is a REPUBLICAN. In fact, 4 years ago some of the smarter members of that party were trying to get him to run for PRESIDENT.
John Kerry will be Barry's Secretary of Defense. It would be difficult to find a worse candidate. Someone just mashed down the gas pedal on the democon's short bus going off the cliff.
Not difficult at all to find a worse Secretary of Defense, little Donny Rumsfeld was so bad little Georgie had to kick him to the curb for Robert Gates.
Well, Obama tried to reach across the aisle with Petraeus. Just shows it's not a good idea to DO that!
It is obvious she is not with this guys for looks. This is not uncommon. This idiot should have been wiser. Use a cigar like Clinton did. What is up with her hair? Is she going bald. I'm sure he could have done better in Vegas with a $20 hooker. Come on man. There is NOTHING sexy about this tramp. At least Tiger Woods had better taste. She ASSUMED you would be President someday. Just think, how many times 60 goes into 40? None. How many times 40 goes into 60? You get my point.
First...there haven't been 20 dollar hookers since the last time you could get it up. Second, she is a stunner. If you want to put her down, do it for something real.
A STUNNER! Last time I was in CO this two-bit, 15-minutes of fame seeking no count ambitious screw wouldn't come in last place in a cow with turrets contest at a county fair. You better look around, Buff, or your some scary knee jerking pervert with a thrill up your leg.
She is a stunner and incredibly accomplished. So what was the real reason for establishing this relationship? He was probably very flattered. Something about this just isn't quite right yet but not to worry. It's still a developing story. Now there is a story about the FBI agent being involved with one of these women. Too soon to conclude anything.
From what I can see for a middle aged woman this gal is truly iconic. Trophy material.
Tiger Woods had better taste? Clearly you did not see some of the women he hooked up with -- the Friendly's waitress would be the first example that comes to mind. And the porn actress.
It's the Barry BenGhazo show! Grinder, turn that crank and watch the monkey dance!
You are really a RACIST PIG!!! and a stupid one at that. Petraeus is a REPUBLICAN, you idiot!
All this speculative nonsense. What did Holder and Obama know and when? That's all that is important.
Holder (Department of Justice) had nothing to do with the FBI investigation of the CIA. Obama should have known sooner, but it is not within his power to DIVINE things. I'm sure heads will roll for higher ups not being informed, but they cannot punish for that until they know it has happened. BTW, Petraeus is a REPUBLICAN.
Check the DOJ Organizational Chart. It is here: DOJ Org. Chart . The Federal Bureau of Investigation falls under The Office of AG. Look at the very bottom of the chart, AG Holder signed the chart himself on May 2, 2012.
Another cover-up by this administration that was made to ensure Obama a second term.
The division in government will no longer allow justice to be served as we've seen in the Benghazi issue, the attack on the Drone and now the extramarital affair by the director of the CIA. Politics have become more important than the security of our Nation.
Results from investigations have proven ineffective and a waste of time as the liberal media has sided with an administration that chooses to ignore any and all matters of such issues that are of utmost importance to government and the people.
"Results from investigations have proven ineffective and a waste of time as the liberal media has sided with an administration that chooses to ignore any and all matters of such issues that are of utmost importance to government and the people."
Damn the investigations, and damn the facts! Republicans don't need no stinking facts! They get all the facts they need from the voices in their heads!
Thanks Jeff. I was hoping someone else would say that. Hahahahaha.
There's a train of thought that SOME women are really turned on by power. She might fit the profile with her history. You gotta love the ways some people screw up. Threatening emails. Sheech!
Jeff N. Yes, and they conveniently forget that Petraeus is one of their own!
I don't see how you see an Obama 'cover-up' here.. but I'm sure if this had come out before the election then Mitt Romney would have won by a landslide.. lol wink. wink.
Looks like there is a possibility that Ms. Broadwell is going down (albeit no longer on the General). Blowing a career (and not the General) seems to be her forte. Having a high level of security clearance seems to have provided her with exceptional access to the general... she won't be accessing him again!!
All joking aside... this woman has created quite a firestorm. As bright and educated as she is... she brought a highly respected four star general's career to an end and smeared his otherwise impeccable and illustrious career. In the end, I doubt she gets her man.
And the general should have known better all along. But women have what men want...
Be all you can be, and 15 minutes of fame if you provide service.
she'll be fine.. the men usually go down in flames in these situations.. (John Edwards) .. But the women involved in these sex scandals get a reality TV show, a talk show or a cooking show. She can follow in the footsteps of the giants in the industry like Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian.. oh.. waitaminnit.. where's the sex tape?
Are we too really believe that if I get harassing email I can go too FBI and they will follow-up on it ....I think more in lines with Obama had FBI dig up dirt and then went too the Gen and said if you say what we want next week we will not tell anybody , but if don't we will tell your wife ..Gen said FU and I quit.
now which is more believable????
If there were anyone at the FBI that gave a rat's ass about you and saw a potential breach of National Security in the messages sent to you, then yes. Petraeus can still be subpoenaed, ya twit. This mess doesn't get him out of anything on the Benghazi hearings.
Brian sees conspiracies everywhere. Did you see a conspiracy when Bush knew about terrorist in country for month before the 911 attack that killed over 4000?
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), chair of the senate intelligence committee has already announced her intention to subpoena Petraeus for the hearings on Benghazi. But people will always look for conspiracies, whether the facts support them or no. Donald Trump is still a birther. (Throws up hands.)
another point Clinton did not step down so which one is more of a leader?Petraeus never lied when came out I hope he tells the truth on the floor.Kinda like Clinton launching the 100 missiles the day he was impeached Obama is using his play book I see.
Did you read the reports? He did have sex in the oval office. He also smoked a cigar that she put inside of her.
hey Paul you might want too check your facts , I guess in your case along with many others the missiles got more of your attention. HE was found guilty but Senate did not find it to be reason too remove from office.
BRIAN, Paranoid much fella??? You Righties are really a hoot, always assuming the very worst about Obama or any Democrat for that matter. But hey, if your mind has turned to mush from listening to schmucks like Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and Lardass Limbaugh, it would account for your myopic thinking.
William Jefferson Clinton was impeached on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice today by a divided House of Representatives, which recommended virtually along party lines that the Senate remove the nation's 42d President from office.
A few hours after the vote, Mr. Clinton, surrounded by Democrats, walked onto the South Lawn of the White House, his wife, Hillary, on his arm, to pre-empt calls for his resignation. The man who in better days had debated where he would stand in the pantheon of American Presidents said he would stay in office and vowed ''to go on from here to rise above the rancor, to overcome the pain and division, to be a repairer of the breach.'' Later, Mr. Clinton called off the bombing in Iraq, declaring the mission accomplished.
Mr. Clinton became only the second President in history to be impeached, in a stunning day that also brought the resignation of the incoming Speaker of the House, Robert L. Livingston.
Hey Ozzie just one question, have you ever served the USA in uniform?
got love the Left they can read but not understand what it means.
you believe he didn't lie under oath??????It's called perjury and is a crime BTW he also took oath to uphold the law which he didn't. It is people like you that are at fault and caused the train derailment we have now.Dummies that vote blind as long as it is better for them and not country. People like you are destroying this country.
ummmm looks like "the impeachment FAILED" hey retard forget the spin you where fed and read your own words.Might be wrong but that looks like you said the impeachment failed , he was indeed impeached.only happen one other time.Would been the third but Nixon jumped ship.
It is clear that Obama blackmailed Petraeus to get him to say that the killings were due to a you tube video, not terrorism. It is also clear that the information was held so as not to hurt Obama before the election. It does not appear the American people care that Obama is responsible for the deaths of Americans. This is because most of the Obama voters have no respect for this country.
Yea, it's so clear Joe, I'm sure that facts proving your obsurd notion will be forthcoming any day now.
Are you high? Of course this was held til after the election. Look at the time frame.
silly question his name is ozzie
Compared to what, Joe? Bloodshed of innocent people is just a latent conseqence of the exercise of power, no matter the party. You don't really want to start comparing stats on that one, I don't think.
Wow! More nutty comments from Joe. Any day now FOX news will have Joe's story. No it not clear and stick to the facts.
The most disturbing thing about this is that a woman who was apparently trained had no clue that her emails could be tracked through her IP address.
Now THAT scares the $@&! out of me.
<<or>> the general, for that matter!
So we aren't going to hear Petraeus give the details of what the CIA was doing during Benghazi?
How convenient!
Wrong again Goober, there is a high likelihood that he will indeed testify and Senator Diane Feinstein, the Democrat who heads up the committe said today he will most likely be asked to testy.
Guess you'll you'll have to puke up a new conspirocy theory about Obama, the Marxist, Secret Muslim. Keep trying there fella.
Next they are going to complain that the hearing on CIA matters will be held behind closed doors and all they will get is the report.
I'd rather know what the h3ll Obozo was doing during BenGhazi. Maybe his old Chicago bath house buddies were in town. Don't think the CIA doesn't know about that stuff, right?