'Jihad Jane' begins strange journey from abuse victim to wannabe terrorist

Colleen LaRose, a Pennsylvania woman who sometimes used the name "Jihad Jane" online, is shown in an undated video grab released by the Site Intelligence Group on March 10, 2010.

"Kill him."

The American who called herself Jihad Jane read the words on her computer screen. Colleen LaRose was fiddling on the Internet, passing time in her duplex near Philadelphia, when the call to martyrdom arrived from halfway around the world.

FIRST IN A FOUR-PART SERIES

The order came from an al-Qaida operative. The date: March 22, 2009.

This was it, she thought. Her chance. At 45, LaRose was ready to become somebody.


A compact woman with a seventh-grade education, LaRose was a recent convert to Islam. She found a place for herself quickly, raising money and awareness online for the plight of her Muslim brothers and sisters. They were underdogs, just like her.

During her darkest days, LaRose had endured incest, rape and prostitution. She surrendered her life to drinking and drugs, from crack to crystal meth. Now, if she accepted the order to kill, she would surrender her life to a higher power: Allah.

How this series was reported

JANE'S JIHAD is based on six months of reporting in Pennsylvania, Texas, Maryland, Colorado, Washington, D.C., and Ireland. The accounts, including the thoughts and actions of characters in the stories, are based on court records and other documents, many of them confidential, as well as interviews with people involved in the case. Reporter John Shiffman gained exclusive access to those documents and individuals. Many spoke only on condition of anonymity. In Ireland, the law forbids the government and defense lawyers from commenting until court proceedings are completed. In the United States, prosecutors do not typically comment before sentencing. The Reuters interview with Colleen LaRose, the woman who called herself Jihad Jane, is the only one she has granted.

 

The man who issued the directive called himself Eagle Eye. LaRose knew him only by his online messages and his voice, and he claimed to be hiding in Pakistan. Eagle Eye wanted her to fly to Europe to train as an assassin with other al-Qaida operatives, then to Sweden to do what few other Muslim jihadists could: blend in.

The terrorists believed that her blonde hair, white skin and U.S. passport, even her Texas twang, would help her to get close enough to the target: Lars Vilks, a Swedish artist who had blasphemed the Prophet Mohammad by sketching his face on the head of a dog.

"Go to Sweden," Eagle Eye instructed LaRose. "And kill him."

A year later, when U.S. authorities revealed the plot, they repeatedly described the Jihad Jane case as one that should forever alter the public's view of terrorism. The conspiracy "underscores the evolving nature of the threat we face," one official said at the time. A second said the case "demonstrates yet another very real danger lurking on the Internet" and "shatters any lingering thought that we can spot a terrorist based on appearance."

The case was so serious, authorities said, that they charged LaRose with crimes that could keep her in prison for the rest of her life.

The court filings and press releases draw a frightening portrait of the Jihad Jane conspiracy. But an exclusive Reuters review of confidential investigative documents and interviews in Europe and the United States -- including the first interview with Jihad Jane herself -- reveals a less menacing and, in some ways, more preposterous undertaking than the U.S. government asserted.

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Colleen LaRose is seen in a June 1997 mug shot released by the Tom Green County Sheriff's Office after her arrest for driving under the influence (DUI) in San Angelo, Texas.

"I got so close to being able to do this," LaRose says today of the plan to kill Vilks.

In truth, what happened proved more farcical than frightful, more absurd than ominous.

The conspiracy included a troubled trio of Americans, each a terrorist wannabe: LaRose; a Colorado woman named Jamie Paulin Ramirez; and a Maryland teenager named Mohammed Hassan Khalid. All have pleaded guilty to breaking U.S. terrorism laws, but only LaRose was charged in the plot to kill Vilks. Her sentencing was recently rescheduled to May 7 from Dec. 19.

Since the 9/11 terror attacks, the FBI has investigated hundreds of cases similar to the Jihad Jane conspiracy. With each investigation comes a challenge: how to prevent acts of terrorism without violating civil rights or overreacting to plots that are little more than bluster.

"We are going to err on the side of caution," says Richard P. Quinn, the FBI's assistant special agent in charge for counter-terrorism in Philadelphia. "We will go after operatives and operations that are more aspirational than operational because to do otherwise would almost be negligent."

At least at the outset, authorities had no way to be certain how much of a threat LaRose might pose, given her resolute conviction and her unique attributes - primarily the way she looked. No one disputes that LaRose and Khalid managed to make contact with overseas al-Qaida operatives and with a loose affiliation of young American-born male Muslim jihadists inside the United States.

Quinn says the case exemplifies al-Qaida's new approach to terrorism. He says the Jihad Jane conspiracy -- from recruiting to planning -- "represents the many new faces of the terrorist threat."

But some civil rights advocates say the U.S. government has exaggerated the danger posed by aspiring terrorists -- in this case and scores of others.

"You can't say these people are totally innocent -- they aren't, and there's something wild and scary about them -- but almost all of them seem to be incompetent and deluded in some way," said Ohio State University Professor John Mueller, who has written extensively about how the government has handled terrorism cases. "When you look closely, many of these cases become interestingly cartoonish."

Interviews and documents, many composed by those involved in the Jihad Jane case as the conspiracy unfolded, often reveal their innermost thoughts. They also show the gullibility of the main players or the ways that they botched almost every assignment along the way.

Khalid, a troubled high school honor student who lived with his parents in Maryland, inadvertently linked his secret jihadist blog to a page on his school website.

Ramirez, a lonely Colorado woman known as Jihad Jamie, headed to Europe to train for holy war. She was lured to Ireland by a Muslim man promising a pious, married life but soon came to believe that all he really sought was a cook, a maid and a sex slave.

Perhaps most intriguing is the story of LaRose, the aspiring assassin whose devotion and naiveté left her susceptible to recruitment but prone to failure.

In the only interview she has given, LaRose says she became devoted to the Muslim men she met online and blindly followed their instructions because they seemed righteous. "I just loved my brothers so much, when they would tell me stuff, I would listen to them, no matter what," she says. "And I also was ... lost."

Indeed, just weeks into her jihad, she became homesick. And days before returning from Europe to America, she emailed the FBI -- to see whether the government might spring for her airfare home.

Despite the media attention the case has received, many details haven't been previously disclosed. Among them: how LaRose, Khalid and Ramirez became radicalized; how they found one another; how they repeatedly bungled the plot that authorities say posed a "very real danger;" and how they came to sacrifice everything for a group of strangers who promised immortality but delivered ignominy.

"Jihad Jane is a perfect figure in some ways because it's like a soap opera," says her intended victim, the artist Vilks. "This is today's most interesting part of terrorism -- the amateurs."

The encounter
Colleen LaRose's path toward terrorism began with what devout Muslims would consider a sin -- a one-night stand.

Her tryst occurred in 2007, two years before LaRose agreed to kill Vilks. At the time, she was in Amsterdam on vacation with her longtime boyfriend, Kurt Gorman, and the two were arguing.

They had dated for five years and were living in suburban Pennsylvania. They had met when Gorman, a radio technician, was dispatched from Pennsburg, Pa., to repair a 307-foot radio tower that stood near cotton fields south of Dallas. LaRose was living beneath the tower in a single-wide trailer she shared with her sister, her mother, her stepfather and two ducks named Lewis and Clark.

Colleen LaRose stands next to her boyfriend Kurt Gorman, right, and his father, David Gorman, in an undated family photo believed to have been taken sometime between 2005 and 2009 and supplied by her family.

Gorman, who declined to talk to Reuters, was a few years younger than LaRose. Colleen found him mellow, gregarious and adventuresome. He fell for her loud, infectious laugh and her penchant for practical jokes. He flattered her with attention and spoiled her with generosity. When she told him that she wished she had bigger breasts, he paid to get them enlarged. Her new size DDs came to dominate her 4-foot-11 frame.

One night during the Amsterdam vacation, the two were at a bar and LaRose got loaded. She could be a mean drunk and she lit into Gorman. He left the bar. LaRose remained.

A short time later, a man approached her. He was Middle Eastern, a Muslim -- and handsome. She went home with him, in part to spite her boyfriend, in part because she was curious.

The decision would change her life.

The conversion
The Amsterdam dalliance with the Muslim man sparked an interest in Islam, one that LaRose kept secret from her boyfriend Gorman when they returned to Pennsylvania.

To learn more about the religion, she began visiting Muslim websites. To meet Muslim men, she signed up for a popular dating site, Muslima.com.

She used Gorman's credit card to pay for access to the site. When Gorman saw the bill, LaRose laughed it off as a lark.

LaRose believed in God but she had never followed any particular religion. As she continued to explore Islam online, she met a man in Turkey who became an especially helpful mentor. He explained the Five Pillars of Islam, and LaRose learned the wudu, the Muslim washing ritual. She ordered a Quran.

After a few weeks, she discovered that converting was easy; she didn't even have to visit a mosque. All she had to do was recite the Shahada, a pledge to accept Allah as her only God and the Prophet Mohammad as his messenger. Just months after her one-night stand in Amsterdam, while chatting with a Saudi Arabian man, LaRose typed the Shahada and converted to Islam via instant messenger.

Sitting before the Dell desktop computer, an unusual feeling washed over her. Happiness.

"I was finally where I belonged," she recalls.

She took as her Muslim name Fatima, after one of the Prophet Mohammad's daughters. "That's the prophet's favorite daughter," she reasons, "and I was my dad's favorite daughter."

By "dad," LaRose meant her stepfather. Her biological father -- she dismissively calls him "nothing more than a sperm donor" -- was, by his own admission, a monster.

Colleen LaRose, in an undated family photo from her time as a young schoolgirl in Michigan in the early 1970s.

The clearest documentation is contained in a series of archived juvenile court records reviewed by Reuters.

On Nov. 6, 1980 -- when LaRose was 17 -- she wandered into Runaway House, a shelter for teens in Memphis, Tenn.

The girl's platinum-blonde hair desperately needed a wash. Her hollowed eyes betrayed cocaine and heroin use. She carried venereal disease.

Colleen told a counselor that she had run away from home at age 13 and lived on the streets as a prostitute. She became pregnant and suffered a miscarriage that left her unable to have children. At 16, she married a man twice her age.

Runaway House routinely saw its share of cruelty. But Colleen's story deeply shook the counselor, Ollie Avery Mannino.

Colleen's parents, heavy drinkers, divorced when she was 3. Growing up near Detroit, she struggled in school and had to repeat the first grade. Once, she came to school with mouse bites on her fingers.

There was more. When Colleen was 8 and her sister, Pam, was 11, her biological father began to rape them, Colleen told the counselor. Her father, Richard LaRose, would appear at their door at night with a bottle of lotion, a silent signal that it was time to undress. The rapes started when Colleen was in the second grade; they continued until she ran away.

Mannino promised to help but explained that the law required her to notify a minor's parent that a runaway was safe. Colleen gave Mannino her father's number. When the counselor reached Richard LaRose, she told him that his daughter was in Memphis. Then she told him what Colleen had said.

"Yeah," Richard LaRose replied without hesitation, Mannino recalls. "I raped her."

Colleen LaRose's late father Richard LaRose, who allegedly admitted to raping his daughter as a young girl, is seen in an undated photo provided by her family.

He said it sharply, without remorse, and in such a prideful, guttural tone that Mannino snapped her head, stunned. The confession -- or boast -- is memorialized in the confidential report Mannino wrote to the court shortly after the call. To this day, Mannino, who spoke to Reuters with Colleen's permission, vividly remembers what happened next.

Colleen took the phone. Angry, her face flushed and tears flowing, she screamed at her father: "Look what you've done to me! You did this to me! It's your fault! Why? Why?"

A moment later, Colleen hurled the phone at a bulletin board, scattering notes and pictures. Then she crumpled into the chair.

The counselor bundled the girl off to a hospital for psychiatric treatment.

Mannino said she reported Richard LaRose to local authorities but, inexplicably, he never was charged with raping either daughter. He died in 2010.

"He never did say he was sorry for what he did to us," says Pam LaRose, now 52, who described the rapes recently in her first media interview. "I still have a lot of anger. Colleen feels the same way. We don't talk about it a lot. Too much pain is involved."

The cause
LaRose remained infatuated with Muslim men and Islam throughout the first half of 2008. But shortly after she converted, she stopped taking her new religion seriously. Pledges to stop drinking fell away. She never visited a mosque. She never learned how to properly pray.

Her waning interest fit an often flighty personality. In Texas, she had worked in a nursing home. But living outside Philadelphia, she held no job and struggled to pass the time while Gorman traveled.

She had her cats, Klaus and Fluffy, chatted on the phone with her sister in Texas and played games on web sites like pogo.com. She also flirted with men in chat rooms and became obsessed with fantasy warrior stories -- she read Shogun and watched the movies Spartacus, Braveheart, 300 and Troy.

Not until six months after her online conversion to Islam would she re-engage. In addition to passing time watching action movies, LaRose became riveted by violent YouTube videos of Israeli attacks on Palestinians and American attacks on Iraqis.

The videos of dead and wounded children moved her most. Sometimes while she watched, she could hear the young American children in the duplex below hers, laughing and playing. The disconnect infuriated her. No one seemed to know or care about the plight of the Palestinians. It was so unfair.

By summer 2008, LaRose was posting jihadist videos on YouTube and MySpace. She used various names online, including Sister of Terror, Ms. Machiavelli and Jihad Jane. During the next year, she exchanged messages with avowed jihadists -- people with codenames such as Eagle Eye, Black Flag, Abdullah and Hassan -- as well as with a woman in Colorado who seemed a lot like her.

LaRose didn't try to hide her posts. She didn't know how. Whenever she wanted to have a private discussion with Eagle Eye, she simply let him take remote control of her computer so he could ensure the secrecy of their chat.

Eagle Eye seemed careful, brave and righteous. He claimed to be on the run from Pakistani authorities and to have participated in the 2008 Mumbai attacks in which terrorists killed 166 people. In mere months, LaRose grew to trust him implicitly. She asked what she could do to help.

His first request seemed innocent enough: Send money to your Muslim brothers and sisters, he told her. So she did, dipping into cash that her boyfriend gave her.

LaRose knew that sending money to people who might be jihadists could be illegal, but who was watching her? Among those she helped: a Cairo cab driver who wanted $450 to fix his broken taxi.

At one point, she also tried to send $440 to a Somali man who wanted to start an online forum for an al-Qaida cell. She soon discovered that Western Union didn't serve war-torn Mogadishu.

The pledge

In January 2009, al-Qaida operatives asked LaRose to do more. They wanted her to become a martyr.

She agreed, and by February sent an online message pledging to use her blonde hair, green eyes and white skin to "blend in with many people… to achieve what is in my heart."

A month later, LaRose also agreed to an overseas rendezvous with Eagle Eye, to marry him and help him get "inside Europe."

Finally, in late March, Eagle Eye asked LaRose to commit her words to deeds. Travel from Pennsylvania to Europe, he said. Find Vilks, the Swedish artist who has blasphemed the Prophet Mohammad. Then shoot him -- six times in the chest.

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Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks peers through blinds in a photo taken before an interview with Reuters in Stockholm on March 10, 2010.

LaRose felt torn.

She wanted to say yes to Eagle Eye instantly. It would be an honor to become a martyr, she thought. Few sisters received such an opportunity. Plus, she wanted to make Eagle Eye proud. He was so religious, and though she had never seen his face, she had come to love him -- not in a romantic sense but more like a brother.

But there were other considerations. Her elderly mother had recently moved to Pennsylvania to live with her, and her boyfriend's ailing father also lived in the duplex. Whenever her boyfriend traveled for work -- often -- she was left to care for them.

Sitting before the keyboard, she read and reread Eagle Eye's message: "Go to Sweden…And kill him."

She would have to choose one path or the other - an exciting life as jihadist or a mundane one as caretaker.

She chose jihad.

"I will make this my goal," she promised, "'til I achieve it or die trying."

Patiently, she awaited further instructions from Eagle Eye. But she didn't keep a low profile.

Throughout the spring and into mid-summer, LaRose drew more and more attention to herself, posting jihadi videos, anti-Zionist rants and solicitations to raise money.

Then, on a humid day in mid-July, a stranger approached the duplex near Philadelphia and rapped on her door. LaRose didn't answer, and the man left his business card behind. When she picked it up, she rushed to her computer.

LaRose sent two messages -- one to a high school student 150 miles away and another to her al-Qaida handler on the other side of the world.

The messages were the same: The FBI was onto her.

Read Part 2: A vow confirmed; a terror plot grows

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This lady has had a tragic life but what she did was wrong.These terrorist groups go after the very vulnerable,the destitute and uneducated people promising a happily ever after.She fell for it and should do jail time.What she needs is major psychiatric care.Maybe she'll receive that while incarcerated.

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Reply#1 - Fri Dec 7, 2012 8:13 PM EST

In Britain, ignored/abused girls were dragged in prostitution, drugs and immoral trafficking by Paki gangs.

Jihad Jane's cases are common in many non-Muslim nations.

Normal excuses/facades: we care or Allah cares. Then only Allah has to save the helpless entrapped girls/women from some of the most immoral Islamic religious mad nuts.

In some cases, even Allah is not able to help them from these gangsters, who don't do anything useful to a place, society and nation.

    #1.1 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 7:16 AM EST

    Abused, uneducated, rape victim, incest victim, prostitution....She was a Texan. Need I say more?

      #1.2 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 6:42 PM EST

      "I was finally where I belonged," she recalls.

      She took as her Muslim name Fatima, after one of the Prophet Mohammad's daughters. "That's the prophet's favorite daughter," she reasons, "and I was my dad's favorite daughter."

      Let's see, white-trailer-trash-drug-addicted-prostitute-traitor! Yep, you're right were you belong. So she took the religion that was created by a rapist, butcher, slaver trader, mass murderer and destroyer of nations. Oh, I left out pedophile! And became a useful idiot to the radical dogs because someone dared to insult the pig. Well, I think I covered it all. I hope she enjoys Prisonhad with her double "D" boobs! And please give her ham for this Christmas meal, shoved down her throat of course!

        #1.3 - Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:36 AM EST
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        "Incompetent and deluded"? Will someone tell those civil rights gurus that that's the very profile of an assassin.

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        Reply#2 - Fri Dec 7, 2012 8:26 PM EST

        If civil rights, human rights and all big words gurus have to start from a place, it is House of Saud.

        House of Saud consists of a megalomaniac, despotic and bigoted Wahhabi ruler and highly corrupt, despotic, bigoted seventh century mindset 5000 princes and princesses. They have huge harems with assembly of girls and women from all over the world.

        This House of Saud and other Sunni rulers of UAE, Kuwait, Qatar and other Arab League nations are responsible for the fast backward march of Islam to seventh century desert days of hating and killing.

        These ungrateful and backstabbing rulers are doing them through their Salaffi and Wahhabi mosques all over the world.

        As we notice in Jihad Jane case, Paki hands are there in most of the terrorism plots and acts!

        All the civil, human and all the big sounding rights groups better start from fountainheads of Islamic extremism, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

        When we take the names of these two nations, some run for life and some want to fill their pockets with oil money thrown around!

          #2.1 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 7:26 AM EST
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          It's all about the Muslim Pork Free Sausage. If she wanted to feel loved and accepted maybe she should have moseyed on down to the local YWCA!

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          Reply#3 - Fri Dec 7, 2012 8:55 PM EST

          There are may people in the South who because of problems convert or become ultra religious. There are many who become fundamentalist Christians (like Bush during his struggles with drinking). The question we have to asking is why are so many American women, especially in the Southern US, victims of abuse. It is obvious that women's status was low in this region.

          Clearly Islam is bringing comfort to many Americans screwed by their culture and environment - men and women, Black or White. This may explain why they are so effective in conversion in American prisons, psychiatric centers and other places. Christian missionaries also convert poor people, dysfunctional people, lonely people and so many people with problems in other countries. They have done it historically.

          The joke goes: Muslims convert the lonely and the angry, Christians convert the lonely and the hungry, Jews convert the eager to climb up the ladder only. :))

          One Jihad Jane there is an article. How about the number of "Inquisition Ibrahim or Iffah" ?

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          Reply#4 - Fri Dec 7, 2012 8:57 PM EST

          "Clearly Islam is bringing comfort to many Americans screwed by their culture and environment"

          Yeah, just like any other con. The proverbial carrot on a stick. The pile of stinking b*llsh*t that claims to smell sweet. It's bringing comfort to no one, just the delusional promise of something better. The only beneficiaries of Islam are the clerics ... JUST LIKE IN EVERY OTHER RELIGION. The only comfort it brings is that people no longer have to think for themselves and take responsibility for their lives. It is the comfort of mental illness.

          Islam is poison.

            #4.1 - Fri Dec 7, 2012 11:19 PM EST

            "if she accepted the order to kill, she would surrender her life to a higher power: Allah."

            But the major problems with Muslim conversions start: when "Muslims convert the lonely and the angry" and make them hate and kill in the name Allah!

            In the one-way street Islamic cult/religion, hating and killing are part of the cult/religion.

            Unless followers of Islamic cult reform with times, Allah's prediction that Islam will become history soon will become true too!

            I am a poor infidel and I have to agree with Allah's prediction to survive!

              #4.2 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 7:33 AM EST

              Dr. MS,

              you've got it! But you left out the effects of women that are raped or molested. Which is what Jane displays. Every bit of her actions are actions of someone that's been abused.

              All these other comments on here about her, shows just how stupid Americans are and so uneducated... ( Mental Midgets )....

              Boy, Social Medis / Blogs really shows ignorance of Americans. Even those that profess to be CHRISTIANS.....

                #4.3 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 7:35 AM EST
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                Can someone get me a crying towel? Well, life is hell for most people but most people do not plan on murdering other people. Put them away.

                  Reply#5 - Fri Dec 7, 2012 10:45 PM EST

                  Just another stupid attention whore. Any woman who'd "convert" to Islam is a complete moron. She hasn't even begun to see abuse until she's run up against Muslim males. Women are dirt in Islam and have been for 1,400 years, but I'm sure her situation would'a been different. Not.

                    Reply#6 - Fri Dec 7, 2012 11:14 PM EST

                    Fried brain on drugs. Any need to say more?

                      Reply#7 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 12:01 AM EST

                      I would say that she is f**king Ugly, but that would an insult to the phrase f**king Ugly

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                      Reply#8 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 7:23 AM EST

                      John Holt,

                      Your the F**king ugly one! Your mind is uglier than Jihad Janes. Get your ugly azz educated about women that have been sexually abused first before making any comments about ugly....

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                      #8.1 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 7:41 AM EST

                      Wayne an inability to feel compassion is the mark of a person who most likely was abused as a child and grew up a very angry person. Women historically have been easy targets for angry men.

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                      #8.2 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 12:34 PM EST
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                      I've never seen such ugly redneck remarks from anyone before about a Woman that was sexually abused...

                      None of you have a clue as to the effects of being sexually abused!

                      Every woman I know that has been RAPED or MOLESTED has been mentally messed up by the Experience! Alcohol, drugs, depression, bi-polar... Yeah you creeps that made her ugly as you say.

                      Your more of a problem than she is!

                      I, know many women that have been sexually abused and all have mental problems at NO fault of their own.

                      This just shows how UN Educated you are! Calling her all the names you have! And most I've read are from men! Well you mental midget men, it was men that made them this way! After YOU rape and molest them, then you look down your nose at them...

                      EDUCATE yourselves about the effects of rape and sexual abuse before you make any of your ignorant comments!

                      Women I know have been RAPED or MOLESTED by, their fathers, brothers, uncles, stepfathers, friends and dates! The women are highly effected by these actions as they grow up! Either use sex as an attention getter or they are turned off by sex. They hate men but would like to have a normal relationship but they have the flashbacks of being abused by the named above and take it out on the person they're with. Then the drugs and alcohol is to drown out the pain and hate they have for men...

                      I'll keep this brief!

                      But you that have made your comments about this woman, ARE SICKER THAN SHE IS!

                      Do your research about sexually abused children and it's effects before you open your rude uneducated, mental midget mouths!

                      Prayhard, your the worse! Bet you claim to be a CHRISTIAN! You need to change your handle but get educated first after you repent!

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                      Reply#9 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 7:15 AM EST

                      Lemme guess Wayne...you are one of those socio-sensitives that will call for us to punish Janes abusers and send her to counseling. Your point has been made at least 3 times in the commentary give it a rest.

                        #9.1 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 4:23 PM EST

                        Hey lame brain I won't let it rest until all the Mental Midgets get it!

                        They make their remarks without reading the article first or have any knowledge of the effects of women being raped or molested!

                        When they're raped, do you think they just lay there and when it's over that they think no more about being raped? Is that your thoughts?

                        It throws those women into TRAMA and trama to the brain triggers depression and bi-polar and leads to alcohol and drug abuse! Hatred towards men and kills any selfesteem they have.

                        Give it a rest? I guess you would want that as you care less about those that are sexually abused!

                        Oh, lets don't forget about suicide as a side effect. Are that they are so pissed at men that they become violent and abusive themselves.

                        Give it a rest, maybe you have a guilty conscience? Maybe your guilty of forcing yourself on to a woman at sometime?

                        And yes, she needs counseling!!!! A lot of it! Yes her abuser should be punished! In fact you may want to get counseling about the effects of women that have been sexually abused....

                          #9.2 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 4:42 PM EST
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                          You can not raise children with violence rape or abusive punishment and expect them to be model citizens. It scars them for the rest of their lives. Some are able to overcome some of the damage enough to develop into good citizens but many do not and spend their lives suffering from the path their early beginnings set them on.

                          It is sad how easily the human species is manipulated by corrupt propaganda and it is not surprising how easily vulnerable people are used by people who hate them and love the power they exert over others.

                          Jihad Jane is an example of someone who had no control over what was happening to her as a child. This woman will most likely always be looking for someone to save her from the horrors of her childhood.

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                          Reply#10 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 12:21 PM EST

                          I want to thank fight for freedom-2341533 and Wayne Wilkins for understanding these women. My daughter is Jamie PaulinRamieriz and these hateful people and their comments on here might one day be seen by my grandson about his mother. Yes my daughter was abused by her first husband. He beat the crap out of her and put her in the hospital twice before she was able to get away from him. Her second and third husbands weren't much better. You people have no idea of what the whole story is and you have to much hate in your hearts to what to know the truth. My daughter has a family and you can't possibly understand the grief that this has caused my family. Your hate forgets that there is a little boy that still loves his mom and he hasn't even seen her in almost 3 years. He has PTSD because of all this and even as much as all this has hurt me, I tell him that mommy was tricked by some very bad people and that is was the truth is, she was lonely and these people used that to brainwash her into thinking she was special. The article states that once she got to Ireland all he wanted her for was a maid and a sex slave. Jesus says those without sin cast the first stone.

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