The strange saga of 'Jane's' jihad: A vow is confirmed; a terror plot grows

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Colleen LaRose is seen in a June 1997 mug shot released by the Tom Green County Sheriff's Office after her arrest for driving under the influence (DUI) in San Angelo, Texas.

Colleen LaRose, the middle-aged American woman who called herself Jihad Jane, hurried to the computer in her duplex near Philadelphia -- the place where she had spent months entertaining murder.

Second in a four-part series

Minutes earlier, an FBI agent had left a card on her door, requesting a call, and LaRose had known precisely what to do. She emailed her al-Qaida handler for advice.

It was July 17, 2009, and almost four months had passed since LaRose had agreed to kill in the name of Allah. Now, the FBI left a calling card on her doorstep. How had they found her? And what did they know?

Her al-Qaida handler, Eagle Eye, lived in Pakistan. He was wise. He was pious. He would guide her.


LaRose, now 46, had never seen his face, but during online chats, he had seen hers. Her blonde hair, fair skin and green eyes made her a prized recruit, especially for the undertaking Eagle Eye had ordered. She would blend in nicely, avoiding suspicion. Eagle Eye's plot called for her to travel to Sweden and murder Lars Vilks, the artist who had blasphemed the Prophet Mohammad.

When LaRose reached Eagle Eye, he told her to call the agent back. Find out how much the FBI knows, he said.

Obediently, LaRose dialed the number. The agent picked up.

Have you ever visited extremist Islamic forums? he asked.

No, never, she lied.

Have you ever solicited money for terrorists?

No. Another lie.

Do you know anyone who goes by the online name Jihad Jane?

No, LaRose said.

The call didn't last long, and the FBI agent didn't reveal much. She couldn't tell if the FBI had seen her YouTube posts supporting al-Qaida and violent jihad.

For more than a year, LaRose had clashed online with YouTube Smackdown, a group that flagged and reported hate speech and jihadist activity. Maybe they had contacted the FBI. But so what? Her YouTube rants couldn't be considered a crime.

Then again, what if the FBI knew more? What if agents had read messages LaRose exchanged with Eagle Eye in Pakistan or his associate Black Flag in Ireland? The men were al-Qaida -- that's what they said, anyway.

What about her jihadi friends inside the United States -- the woman in Colorado and the teenager in Maryland? Did the FBI know about them? Or about her pledge to kill the Swedish artist?

Despite the concerns, LaRose plunged forward. Without disguising herself, she began contacting fellow jihadists online. She warned them of the FBI's visit and asked them to delete anything that might prove incriminating.

Then LaRose took the next step on her path to martyrdom - an act she later described as one of the proudest moments in the conspiracy to kill the artist in Europe.

She found a bargain flight to Amsterdam for $400.

"I went straight to the airline," she says today. "I didn't use no middle person. I also made it two weeks ahead of time."

The plot, loose as it was, was advancing. Jihad Jane booked the flight for Aug. 23.

The honor student
Shortly after the FBI agent left her duplex, LaRose emailed a high school student who lived near Baltimore, about 150 miles away.

Please contact jihadi forum administrators, LaRose begged the teen. "Ask him to PLEASE remove ALL my posts … because I told the FBI guy I don't know that site."

The teenager, who went by Hassan online, did as asked. "She is being threatened by the FBI," he explained in a message to the forum administrators.

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Mohammed Khalid is seen in his 2011 high school yearbook senior portrait, from Mount Hebron High School in Ellicott City, Md.

Hassan wasn't a creative pseudonym like Jihad Jane. It was simply the middle name of Mohammed H. Khalid, a gangly Pakistani immigrant who lived with his parents, older brother and two younger sisters in Ellicott City, Md.

Khalid, 15, had met Jihad Jane on YouTube months earlier and their online friendship had grown quickly. By now, they were talking to some of the same people overseas: an al-Qaida operative named Eagle Eye and a Muslim man in Ireland who called himself Black Flag.

Like LaRose, Khalid had become radicalized watching videos of Muslim children maimed or killed in attacks by Israeli or American forces. Khalid was not a convert. He had been born a Muslim in Dubai and raised in Pakistan from age 11 to 14.

His family, classic American immigrants seeking a better life for their children, had arrived in Maryland in 2007. Khalid's father delivered pizzas. His mother kept the home.

The family of six squeezed into a modern-day tenement, a tiny two-bedroom apartment selected for its location inside the best school district his parents could afford. In one bedroom, Khalid and his brother shared a mattress. In the other, his sisters lived beside stacked boxes of perfume the family peddled at a weekend flea market. Their parents slept on a mattress in the dining room.

Khalid excelled during his first two years at Mt. Hebron High School. He earned A's in English, Algebra, Science and U.S. History. He joined the chess club and later became an administrator for the school website.

Although his parents were thrilled with Khalid's grades, they began to notice subtle changes. He seemed withdrawn and spent so much time alone in his bedroom on his laptop. They worried he might be downloading porn.

If only.

Eager to learn more about his Muslim heritage, the 15 year old had stumbled onto violent jihadi videos and become addicted. The anti-American rhetoric proved intoxicating to an immigrant boy struggling to find an identity in a place that embraced neither his race nor his religion.

Khalid began translating from Urdu to English sermons and violent jihadi videos -- snuff-style images of U.S. soldiers in the throes of death, and beheadings of Americans Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl. Khalid posted the videos and began to solicit money online for al-Qaida. He never aspired to kill anyone personally. He later described himself as a "keyboard warrior."

"I will be a great facilitator," he wrote to a friend.

To shield his identity, Khalid studied basic terrorist tradecraft -- how to use programs such as Pidgin to encrypt chats and Tor to cloak his location. He learned to use code words - for example, "HK" in place of "jihad." The letters were chosen because J falls between H and K on the keyboard.

Now, in mid-July 2009 -- around the time Jihad Jane warned him about the FBI -- Khalid launched a new online endeavor. It was brimming with teenage bravado. He called the blog Path to Martyrdom/Resisting the War Against al-Islaam. From the blog, Khalid linked to hundreds of videos of al-Qaida sermons and violent attacks.

He intended Path to Martyrdom to be anonymous. His keystrokes betrayed him.

Pivoting between maintaining the school's website and his new jihadist blog, he inadvertently linked the "About Me" section of Martyrdom to the wrong web page -- the page for his high school track team.

Jamie joins
On Aug. 1, 2009 -- around the time LaRose found her bargain ticket to Europe -- a 31-year-old woman sat before a laptop at her mother's kitchen table in the remote town of Leadville, Colo.

Jamie Paulin Ramirez felt stifled. Her young son, Christian, bounded past every now and then, and her nosy mother kept making excuses to stroll by.

As discreetly as she could, Ramirez tried to shield the screen. She and her mom had clashed about her conversion to Islam. It wasn't that her mother objected to the religion; she had married a Muslim herself. She just thought her daughter was overzealous.

Ramirez feared her mom would launch into a tirade if she caught her chatting with her new Muslim friends, just as her mother criticized her for wearing a head scarf, or hijab.

"When I would pray she would scream at me," Ramirez recalled in a document reviewed by Reuters. "When I would wear my hijab to work and to the store, she would say it was embarrassing."

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Jamie Paulin Ramirez is seen in an undated family handout photo obtained from her family by the Leadville Herald at the time of her terrorism arrest in 2010.

One of Ramirez's new online friends was another recent convert to Islam, a woman from Pennsylvania who sometimes called herself Jihad Jane. They seemed a lot alike - they were both white, blonde, Americans. And each had gravitated toward Muslim men in Europe, including one man in Ireland. He had been trying to persuade Ramirez to bring her son and join him there.

On this day, Jihad Jane wrote with big news: "Soon, I will be leaving for Europe to be with other brothers & sisters. When I get to Europe, I will send for you to come be there with me. … This place will be like a training camp as well as a home."

"I would love to go over there," Ramirez replied.

Their chat turned to politics. And, years later, the brief exchange that followed would become part of the government's case against both of them.

Jihad Jane: "When our brothers defend our faith their homes, they are terrorist. Fine, then I am a terrorist and proud to be this."

Ramirez: "That's right … If that's how they call it, then so be it. I am what I am."

Ramirez was raised a Methodist, but she had become embittered toward God and abandoned religion years earlier following her sister's death from cancer.

Thrice divorced, Ramirez had moved in with her mother to save money. But they quarreled often, especially about her young son -- what he should read, how he should pray, what he should eat for dinner, whether he should wear his hair short or long.

How this series was reported

JANE'S JIHAD is based on six months of reporting in Pennsylvania, Texas, Maryland, Colorado, Washington, D.C., and Ireland. The accounts, including the thoughts and actions of characters in the stories, are based on court records and other documents, many of them confidential, as well as interviews with people involved in the case. Reporter John Shiffman gained exclusive access to those documents and individuals. Many spoke only on condition of anonymity. In Ireland, the law forbids the government and defense lawyers from commenting until court proceedings are completed. In the United States, prosecutors do not typically comment before sentencing. The Reuters interview with Colleen LaRose, the woman who called herself Jihad Jane, is the only one she has granted.

Ramirez had been looking for a reason to leave.

Her turn toward Islam had begun the year before, while researching a paper for a college class. Intrigued by what she learned about the religion, she continued reading. After a few months, she slipped down to a Denver-area mosque and converted.

Now, her new, nonjudgmental friends on Islamic forums were enticing her to join them. The man in Ireland -- the one Jihad Jane knew as Black Flag -- pressed Ramirez hardest.

Ramirez knew the man only by his real name, Ali Damache, and in his latest message to her, he persisted: Bring your son. Marry me. I will teach you Arabic and the mystical beauty of the Quran.

Ramirez hesitated. Men had burned her so many times. She liked what she knew of Damache. He was nice - he complimented her on the color schemes of her hijabs. Even so.

Damache urged her to ask Allah for guidance. Pray for a week, each night before bedtime, he said, then consider the colors of the dreams: If the dreams come in white or green, it is a sign that she should to fly to Ireland with her son; if the dreams come in red or black, she and her son should stay in Colorado.

Ramirez struggled to recall her dreams, but it wouldn't matter. Damache told her he had prayed, too, and his dreams were glowing green -- the color of Islam, and of Ireland.

OK, Ramirez agreed, that must be a sign from Allah. She began shopping for two plane tickets to Ireland.

The passports
In the weeks leading up to her own flight to Europe, LaRose grew excited about what lay ahead.

Finally, she would meet some true Muslims -- men more righteous than she was, people wholly committed to the cause. They would teach her to pray and the ways of Allah. More important, they would accept her as one of their own.

It would be an honor to fly to Amsterdam for training, then travel on to Sweden to carry out the killing.

Her instructions: to shoot the artist Vilks six times in the chest. "That way," LaRose recalls today, "they know it was not an accident. It was intended."

A short while before her flight, LaRose stole her boyfriend's passport and birth certificate, presumably to provide false identification for the terrorists. LaRose located two of the boyfriend's passports, one current and one expired, as well as several birth certificates.

Following her handler's instructions, LaRose mailed everything to young Khalid near Baltimore.

Then, days before the flight to Amsterdam and the start of her new life, the realities of her old one intervened: Her boyfriend's father suffered a heart attack. Soon after, he died.

Read Part 1: 'Jihad Jane' begins strange journey from abuse victim to wannabe terrorist

LaRose wasn't deterred. She let her al-Qaida associates know she was still coming. "I will be away from here in a couple days," she wrote. "… Then…I will get to work on important matters." 

Within hours, LaRose heard a knock on the door of her home near Philadelphia.

The FBI had returned. This time, LaRose answered.

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    Fascinating article albeit very sad. It would appear that these people were lonely and looking for purpose. Unfortunately, the purpose that they found was murder. Destruction is easy. Creation takes hard work, time and imagination. Looking forward to the next part of the article.

    • 21 votes
    #1 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 2:40 PM EST

    Very strange article........what was she thinking????????

    Obviously, she wasnt!

    • 11 votes
    #1.1 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 3:59 PM EST

    You hit the nail right on the head, Fed.

    • 6 votes
    #1.2 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 4:37 PM EST

    These women were lonely and misguided.Also they both lacked the basic idea that they were Americans.Even though i disagree with alot of things the Democrats are trying to do i still know that i am American 1st.If these were men instead of women,they would be accused of thinking with their OTHER brain so what were these women thinking with?

    • 7 votes
    #1.3 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 5:29 PM EST

    Obviously, she wasnt!

    She was obviously thinking, and a lot. It just wasn't thinking in any way we would consider sane. People like her have fallen prey to Nigerian scams, she got unlucky and became prey for something much worse than just a scam.

    What is more worrisome is - how many of these are still going on around us, and are not being found?

    • 12 votes
    #1.4 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 8:07 PM EST

    The thing is it doesn't matter what religion Muslim, Christian or whatever. All of them have radicals that will use their religion to dupe people into killing. It's how we have so-called christians murdering doctors and nurses at Abortion Clinics or blowing up federal buildings. They are all no different no matter what religion that claim they are following.

    It's so easy for religion of any type to convince hurt, lonely or afraid people to kill in the name of god.

    • 12 votes
    #1.5 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 9:23 PM EST

    Please list the most recent twenty activities by radicals that lead to the death of doctors or nurses or the bombing of federal buildings that were done in the name of Christianity or any other religion other than Islam.

    Please keep the list relevent to the last ten years, do not waste time or print by referencing the middle ages or any other historical period not representative of the twenty first century.

    Now list the latest twenty activities done by radicals in the name of Islam that have killed or maimed men, women or children, both here and abroad.

    Any pattern here?

    • 10 votes
    #1.6 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 10:50 PM EST

    JTEX - I do not mean any offense to you, but if you think there is a pattern why don't you just state what you see as the pattern.

    This story is disturbing. These people are not innocent victims. They intentionally looked for Islamic radicals so that they could connect their hate with a more powerful hate and this is what seems to have given them a sense of worth and purpose.

    This is mental illness. Muhammad was mentally ill and his ventures to his cave depict the same intentional searching for something more powerful than himself to connect his hate with and express the deepest evil on a world scale. These people aren't satisfied with quarreling and hating with the people handy to them, they need to escalate their hate on a broader and broader scale. They desire to be murderers and then they want to be mass murderers . . . revenge is just a means to their end. They like to kill . . . all this searching and connecting up with other Muslims or radicals is symbolic of a cat playing with its prey. Its like foreplay for killers.

    That is right . . . typical cultist . . . typical killer cult.

    • 4 votes
    #1.7 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 11:38 PM EST

    Treason is treason. Most spies and saboteurs - throughout history - are recruited from among the lost and lonely.. people looking for a purpose. They're almost ALWAYS people just like this woman. Their stories don't make them any more deserving of mercy or sympathy. She's a traitor in a war... it's that simple.

    • 11 votes
    #1.8 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 11:39 PM EST

    yes treason,trying to understand the motivation of people who want to kill you is only common sense.Don't confuse that with sympathy.

    • 2 votes
    #1.9 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 12:11 AM EST

    Thank you JTEX.

    People need to understand that the bombing of the federal building had nothing to do with Christianity.

    McVeigh bombed the federal building because he was angry at the US Government.

    • 6 votes
    #1.10 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 1:12 AM EST

    Interesting article.

    The cases like these are common in non-Muslim nations with some Muslims getting busy with Islam, Sharia Law than to the society and nation.

    "four months had passed since LaRose had agreed to kill in the name of Allah."

    Can such one-way traffic extremist Islam survive for long in 21st century?

      #1.11 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 5:54 AM EST

      It has survived for over a thousand years and peoples brains are getting weaker. The US is a prime example.

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      #1.12 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 10:09 AM EST

      This is the fear that has been repeatedly stressed in the media by officials....home grown jihadists. White males and females who are not easily identified. If there is one Jane & Ramirez there must be dozens if not more and more likely of men. One day they will be enticed by their mentors to carry out significant terrorist acts. Hopefully the authorities Cray supercomputers are monitoring internet chatter and will defeat such plots before they unfold. But some will slip through the cracks.

        #1.13 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 11:13 AM EST

        She committed treason plain and simple. She should be executed along with any other US citizen or legal resident alien who is here and committs treason.

        • 3 votes
        #1.14 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 11:14 AM EST

        Fed up

        The same can be said of any political party or religious sect.

        Of the two true religious faiths, they get polluted by those who wish to subdue for their own benefits.

          #1.15 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 11:23 AM EST

          So what's with the Hispanic-sounding last names of these two women? Is this a trend with these women? Being possessed of no self confidence or any sense of self they are constantly looking for it with someone who has a very strong heritage that can overwhelm their own lack of identity?

          • 1 vote
          #1.16 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 11:36 AM EST

          One more illustration of the corrupting influence islam imposes on the gullible and weak minded. Let's wait now for the inevitable attacks on Christianity by the followers of the moon god.

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          #1.17 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 12:11 PM EST

          Just for JTEX...

          In July 2011, Anders Behring Breivik was arrested and charged with terrorism after a car bombing in Oslo and a mass shooting on Utøya island. As a result of his attacks, 151 people were injured, and 77 killed. Hours prior to the events, Breivik released a 1,500 page manifesto detailing that immigrants were undermining Norway's traditional Christian values, and identifying himself as a "Christian crusader". Analyses of his motivations have noted that he did not only display Christian terrorist inclinations, but also had non-religious, right-wing beliefs.

          The National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT), a rebel group operating in Tripura, North-East India, has been described as engaging in terrorist violence motivated by their Christian beliefs. In April 2000, the secretary of the Noapara Baptist Church in Tripura, Nagmanlal Halam, was arrested with a large quantity of explosives. He confessed to illegally buying and supplying explosives to the NLFT for two years. On May 20th 2000, the NLFT killed 25 Bengali Hindus at the Bagber refugee camp.

          In Assam in 2009, the Manmasi National Christian Army (MNCA), an extremist group from the Hmar tribe, were charged with forcing Hindus to convert at gunpoint. Seven or more Hmar youths were charged with visiting Bhuvan Pahar, a Hindu village, armed with guns, and pressuring residents to convert to Christianity. They also desecrated temples by painting crosses on the walls with their blood.

          During the twentieth century, members of extremist groups such as the Army of God began executing attacks against abortion clinics and doctors across the United States. A number of terrorist attacks were attributed to individuals and groups with ties to the Christian Identity and Christian Patriot movements, including the Lambs of Christ. A group called Concerned Christians were deported from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem at the end of 1999, believing that their deaths would "lead them to heaven."The motive for anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdering Wichita doctor George Tiller on May 31, 2009 was a belief that abortion is criminal and immoral, and that this belief went "hand in hand" with his religious beliefs.

          Fourteen traditionalist shamans about to form a shamanic school and association were murdered in Peru over a period of several months prior to October 2011. The murders were allegedly committed by, and/or at the behest of, the local mayor and a group of other evangelical Christians. The mayor's brother was known in the area as a matabrujos or witch killer. The Peruvian government continues to investigate.

          There are more like the war between Protestants and Catholics in Ireland but for some reason people like JTEK only seem to think Muslims are the only terrorists and the only religion that breeds them. You can never educate them with facts as they will always find some way to discount them as facts run counter to their closely held beliefs.

          • 1 vote
          #1.18 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 12:50 PM EST

          These women were lonely and misguided. Also they both lacked the basic idea that they were Americans.Even though i disagree with alot of things the Democrats are trying to do i still know that i am American 1st.If these were men instead of women,they would be accused of thinking with their OTHER brain so what were these women thinking with?

          Oh and the TEENAGER wasn't misguided?! He was just as misguided as these women. Or is it the fact that they are Americans they have the excuse of being "sick in the head" meanwhile the straight A Muslim's destiny was to be a terrorist?!?

            #1.19 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 1:40 PM EST

            Please pass this on to others. The media is trying to convince us that the shootings in Conn. was the act of a troubled kid. This is no kid. He's a devout Communist/Anarchist as stated. Please pass it on.

            http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/3611_423506811050933_1150852840_n.jpg

              #1.20 - Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:54 PM EST
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              Typical cultist.

              • 8 votes
              Reply#2 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 2:49 PM EST

              absolutely! they seem to be motivated more by a need to belong and feel accepted by a group than political or religious convictions. I guess people will do anything for love, even kill. Total cult mentality

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              #2.1 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 3:38 PM EST

              Cultist? Sects? yes, and many religions in our world today can be labeled cult or sect. It might surprise you.

              1 : formal religious veneration : worship
              2 : a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents
              3 : a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents
              4 : a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator <health cults>
              5 a : great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad
              b : the object of such devotion
              c : a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion

              The dictionary also explains the term’s etymology: French & Latin; French culte, from Latin cultus care, adoration, from colere to cultivate.

              Basically a cult or sect has two defining factors, it is not considered a viable religion by other "vetted" if that's the word, religions commonly accepted by the world or its geographical regions, and that a cult or sect usually has a tight membership, casting out any unbeliever or unfaithful follower. Basically, those definitions from #1 on refer to just about 2/3rds of the secular religious powers today, in worshiping, devote esteem held to that which is worshiped, and retribution and actions taken to oust unrighteous members.

              But in these cases of terrorist followers, learning the "blinded faith" of extremists by fanatical clerics and members, it is a case of the perpetrators wishing to find "answers" to their lives or livelihood, from mentally distressed personae who seek a belonging.. to the poverty stricken uneducated (except for brainwashing in the Qua-ran) populace overseas.

              What it does not do is lessen their guilt in performing murderous tasks of retribution merely distorted taken out of context scripture to fuel their thoughts. Having a horrifically, nightmarish, terrible childhood does not give one an excuse to plot the purposeful intentional murder or mass murder of anyone.

              So I am not falling for the authors eliminating prose to try to glorify the wrongs commuted against Jihad Jane that led to her demise and capture. Throughout the story the gal had her boyfriend buy her a set of new boobs, misused and abused his credit card, and then started deceiving him even further, with not one mention of him misusing or abusing her. Seems to me this Twa* merely liked doing weird things. Shame on her dad for raping his children and the arse should have been hung by the you know whats...but my Dad beating us boys half to death all the time didn't make me want to go out and perform blood thirsty murderous crime sprees or strap a bombing vest on.

              • 3 votes
              #2.2 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 12:21 AM EST

              A bit more!

              A bunch of mad Islamic killers.

              While permitting inside the US, Britain and many nations, one can change requirements for immigration and becoming citizens.

              During cold war days, the US was not permitting commies. Just change the immigration requirements to get rid of the taxi drivers, pizza delivery boys from problem basket case nations like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Somalia, and many others.

              "if agents had read messages LaRose exchanged with Eagle Eye in Pakistan or his associate Black Flag in Ireland? The men were al-Qaida -- that's what they said, anyway."

              We see Muslims inventing problems in most of the non-Muslim nations and many Muslim nations.

              Even in the US, we can notice these actions!

              In the US, one Muslim from Bangladesh wanted to blow up Fed Reserve. He had come for studies and was hardly twenty! As per his family: "he is pious and he wanted to study."

              When Muslims form more than five percent, downhill march starts.

              Muslims are inventing problems in Myanmar, Thailand, Philippines, India and other places.

              When they form more than 30 percent then it is Sudan, Somalia, Nigeria, Lebanon (few decades back)

              In Muslim majority nations, they are doing genocides of minority Islamic sects like Shiites, Sufis, Ahmedias and other minority tribes.

              In democracies, if Muslims' percentage becomes sizeable, even politicians start dancing as the Muslim voting block dances.

              Similar things are going on in UK, France and many European nations.

              If Saudi Arabia and many Muslim nations do not permit non-Islamic religious places and scriptures, Muslims have no right to have their mosques, hate preaching and killer training centers, in non-Muslim nations.

              If non-Muslims can’t live in peace in Muslim nations, Muslims don’t have any right to live in our nations (many have been writing rot on this portion with out knowing much about laws. So I added a few lines first).

              • 4 votes
              #2.3 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 6:08 AM EST
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              Sad woman, sad life, not so sad prison time.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#3 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 4:08 PM EST

              the article described a group of idiots.......send them all to prison

              • 8 votes
              Reply#4 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 6:38 PM EST

              Treason.Kill them all.

              • 7 votes
              Reply#5 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 8:05 PM EST

              Either get these radical hating and killing Muslims or else they will get us!

              Start cleaning Sunni Islamic extremists from the House of Saud and other Sunni Arab rulers like Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and others.

              House of Saud consists of a megalomaniac, despotic and bigoted Wahhabi ruler and highly corrupt, despotic, bigoted seventh century mindset 5000 princes and princesses. They have huge harems of girls and women from all over the world.

              House of Saud and co have been inventing, breeding and exporting Sunni Islamic extremism through their Salaffi and Wahhabi mosques all over the world.

              Pakistan has been providing foot soldiers to these Sunni Arab rulers.

              Erase some of the nations from the map for world peace and relief from economic problems due to frequent manipulations of high oil prices.

                #5.1 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 6:17 AM EST

                Indeed! A little genocide will show those extremist radicals just how wrong they are for being such extremists! Don't they know that committing acts of violence against innocent people is morally wrong?

                • 1 vote
                #5.2 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 6:24 AM EST
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                Well theres another one. No wonder this country is in the shape it is in.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#6 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 8:13 PM EST

                Pakistan.....the country of the pure . Unless the world stands up to this cancer and scourge, we are in for more trouble. So glad we have drones, raining all over that "land of the pure"....

                • 7 votes
                Reply#7 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 8:17 PM EST

                Idiot. You sound just like the moronic jihadists. Pakistan has nuclear weapons. And the drones are only being used in the Northwest, not "all over." Stoopid fule.

                • 3 votes
                #7.1 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 9:51 PM EST

                David: What is there to abuse as "idiot"?

                if Pakistan has nukes, it also in chaotic conditions.

                Nuke technology was stolen; and it was sold to Iran, Libya, N. Korea and whoever wants to pay for it.

                It is only matter of time, before Paki nukes fall into some Islamic extremists' hands!

                Then you will remeber that "idiot", if likes of you have forgotten about 9/11, one of the biggest terrorist attacks in human history.

                "Strategic allies", Saudis and Pakis had a hand in 9/11 and UAE had partial funding of it.

                • 4 votes
                #7.2 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 7:02 AM EST

                And still our government let these terrorist access to our country by the thousands, as for the traitors (male or female) they should be executed without prejudice quickly & quietly so there is no chance of the media glorifying their actions.

                • 1 vote
                #7.3 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 1:45 PM EST
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                Lonely, unhappy, disenfranchised people, always a recipe for problems and decent. Atleast they werent able to hurt anyone.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#8 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 8:17 PM EST

                So many people just dying to be used

                • 1 vote
                Reply#9 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 8:31 PM EST

                "War is peace....Freedom is slavery....Ignorance is strength." ~George Orwell, 1984

                And this is what they still use to "Terrorize" America with? She's just Pathetic....Any Gang-banger in Richmond VA would be a more credible threat. Nothing but more Corporate Propaganda using a twisted and delusional person claiming to be a "Jihad Jane"!

                Speaking of Twisted and Delusional, ask yourself why der Homeland of Insecurity let this wannabe "Terrorist" run wild in America for over a year.....http://www.infowars.com/obama-has-muslim-domestic-terrorism-scandal-on-his-hands/

                Maybe because.....

                How FBI Entrapment Is Inventing 'Terrorists' - and Letting Bad Guys Off the Hook....http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/how-fbi-entrapment-is-inventing-terrorists-and-letting-bad-guys-off-the-hook-20120515

                So if this is what they are doing now why would you think it was any different than what they where doing back then?

                Admit it folks...9/11 was a False Flag Operation.....Still Don't believe? Watch General Wesley Clark Connect the Dots for You and then watch this new PBS Documentary about the 9/11 the Wall Street Plutocracy who seized control of our Country and still refuses to investigate....

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw&feature=g-all-f

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l-8PFk8j5I

                Say what you will but after watching these two Documentaries if you still do not understand the truth....You intentionally choose not to!

                Next guess what happens when an American Air Port or Air Liner gets attacked or shot down by Al Qaeda using one of those "Missing" Libyan Surface to Air Missiles we allowed Al Qaeda to steal, Our Government will then Attack US and Our Freedoms again for the benefit of their Plutocratic UN Globalist Banksters on Wall Street and their Robber Baron Masters who are Controlling the Military Industrial Corporations!

                Nightmare in Libya: Thousands of Surface-to-Air Missiles Unaccounted For....http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/nightmare-libya-20000-surface-air-missiles-missing/story?id=14610199#.UMKmDqwt524

                Just say NO to their Endless War On America (oops Terror)! Refuse to Support Al Qaeda and ALL of their CIA / DOD / DHS Masters where ever they are found and demand a REAL INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION & PROSECUTIONS of the TREASON of 911!

                While we are at it......Impeach President Obama and Prosecute Secretary Clinton for Secret Aid to Al Qaeda in Libya & Syria, The Cover Up of the Murder of a US Ambassador by Al Qaeda, and for their Secret CIA Prison in Benghazi-Gate!

                "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever." ~George Orwell, 1984


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                Reply#10 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 8:55 PM EST

                muw-you really need to get on your meds to reduce the delusions!

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                #10.1 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 10:40 PM EST

                NJ John, I think you should watch the videos to links #3 and 4, I just did. Those two videos present damning evidence and raise questions. The other stuff in MUW's post I cannot speak to.

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                #10.2 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 12:22 AM EST

                You mention gang banger as more dangerous then this traitor, well guess what gang member are terrorist & should be treated so instead of being treated as misguided teenagers. There are gang with generations of murderers & thieves.

                  #10.3 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 1:48 PM EST

                  Thanks Rightly Concerned!

                  I am use to being "attacked" by the Corporate Propagandists and those that have fallen victim to their "Safety First" (for the Wall Street Oligarchs anyway) Nonsense! I always provide supporting links they always provide Unsupported Opinions & Asinine Insults!

                  None are so hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free. The truth has been kept from the depth of their minds by masters who rule them with lies. They feed them on falsehoods till wrong looks like right in their eyes. ~ Johann von Goethe

                    #10.4 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 3:42 PM EST
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                    This "article" reads like sensationalist fiction... not saying that it is, the author just has a ridiculous writing style.

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                    Reply#12 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 10:09 PM EST

                    Yes, I wanted to make the same comment, but then I thought I'd scan the comments here and just agree with whoever else inevitably made the comment already. I really want to get the information in the article but I can barely read it... it's written like breathless sensationalist fiction for jr. high school students with a 2 second attention span and 300 word vocabulary. For example, do we really need a paragraph which consists solely of "If only." ? Or another entire paragraph which reads, "She found a bargain flight to Amsterdam for $400." Come on.

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                    #12.1 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 11:00 PM EST

                    I agree. Poor writing. Where are your editors, nbc?

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                    #12.2 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 5:07 AM EST
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                    Often times it is the intense personal interest by these jihadist recruiters which proves overwhelmingly seductive to many of these lonely people whom no one else really pays much attention to. Add to that conversion to a radical religion which theocratically supports extremism, and you potentially have a source of ready recruits. The statistical likelihood of this really boggles the imagination, especially in lieu of any theocratic reform of these dangerous viral religions. Oh, well, it is not like I haven't tried to warn the world countless times what needs to be done to defuse these ET designed and installed terminal religious "End Time" belief systems before it is too late for mankind in this world. What else can I possibly say but have fun with your program "End Times", everyone! - Rick Carter

                      Reply#13 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 10:28 PM EST

                      (There is very little possibility of me doing much more to turn our rapidly failing world around, especially now that the FBI has put me (Rick Carter) on their "enemy watch list". You see, in their eyes I am trying to overthrow "the established order" in the interest of reforming our 'badly out of date' U.S. Constitution. Trying for too much reform in our world is apparently is all it takes for anyone to end up on the FBI's "enemy watch list(s)", since it threatens to disenfranchise these corrupt politicians who really constitute "the established order" (yes, there is more than one enemy watch list). Have fun, everyone, with your program "End Times"!) - Rick Carter

                        #13.1 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 10:47 PM EST

                        (In fact, just trying to provide too much enlightenment in this world can actually put you on an "enemy watch list". Guess what, everyone, democracy absolutely depends upon an enlightened electorate, which is actually the last thing these corrupt politicians who are part of the established order want to see.) - RC

                        Just in case you all have forgotten what they have done to our once proud nation, try visiting here. (census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c (&) 0004.html)

                          #13.2 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 10:57 PM EST

                          (The Supreme God of All Existence eternally hate you all for hating me! Bye!) - RC

                            #13.3 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 11:03 PM EST

                            Are you a Series 888 Terminator?

                              #13.4 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 11:04 PM EST

                              No, just someone who didn't want to see the emerging human race die out in this Universe. But they have effectively nixed my contribution to the cause. Bye! - RC

                              (Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention that in their eyes I am also trying to overthrow "the established order" because I want to reform the Christian religion which dominates in our government and basically licenses these corrupt politicians.)

                                #13.5 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 11:11 PM EST
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                                How many Citizenships are revoked a year, or do we try to convert them back to be Americans after they do 40 years?

                                  Reply#14 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 10:53 PM EST

                                  Rewrite the article and replace "Muslims" with "Christians", the Quran with the Bible, etc.

                                  It is the extremists we should be fighting, irrespective of their religion and/or political beliefs.

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                                  Reply#15 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 10:58 PM EST

                                  From Wikipedia: LaRose was born in Michigan and raised in Texas, where she dropped out of school before attending high school. She was briefly married at the age of 16 to Sheldon Barnum, who was 32 at the time....

                                  Sounds like she had a hellish childhood, to drop out of school so soon. Where were her parents or her family?


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                                  Reply#17 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 11:35 PM EST

                                  I have no sympathy for these Americans, especially Islamic converts, who find excitement and purpose in becoming militants. Unfortunately, we will have a problem here in the US as our own citizens convert and want to destroy our country. I'm all for spending a lot of my taxpayer $$$ to monitor these people, arrest them and throw them into prison.

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                                  Reply#18 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 11:40 PM EST

                                  Seriously, who on earth do y'all think typical traitors and spies who betray their own people are? They're almost always people just like this woman - disconnected, alienated from their own, loaded up with grievances... She's not some type of aberration, for people in her profession. She's actually kind of the norm. Such people are attracted to extremism and fundamentalism, and the fact that an enemy power wants them to betray their own, makes their treason all that more appealing to them.

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                                  Reply#19 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 11:42 PM EST

                                  Great article so far, looking forward to the rest. It never fails to amaze me how stupid, naive and gullible these idiots are. I can completely understand how someone like Hassan can fall into extremism (young, impressionable, actually from a Muslim nation) but the women are just losers, completely immature and probably low on IQ points...the perfect stooges. But at least they aren't cowards, unlike the people who recruit them. They have that going for them.

                                    Reply#20 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 11:44 PM EST

                                    Periodically Muslim terrorists find lonely and stupid American/European women to be blown up. The woman with the bomb in her suitcase on the Lockerbie plane was pregnant by her scumbag Muslim lover, who planted the bomb. That's right, killing his own baby.

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                                    Reply#21 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 11:47 PM EST

                                    Well, let's give her a bomb and send her up to the arctic. Let her shatter a few acres of uninhabited ice as her final act on this earth.

                                      #21.1 - Sat Dec 8, 2012 11:51 PM EST
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                                      Quite possibly the single worst and most confusing news headline ever...

                                        Reply#22 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 12:12 AM EST

                                        What part of this doesn't scream stupid???

                                        Obediently, LaRose dialed the number. The agent picked up.

                                        Have you ever visited extremist Islamic forums? he asked.

                                        No, never, she lied.

                                        Have you ever solicited money for terrorists?

                                        No. Another lie.

                                        Do you know anyone who goes by the online name Jihad Jane?

                                        No, LaRose said.

                                        Maybe we are lucky this terrorist makes Homer Simpson look like a PHD!

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                                        Reply#23 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 12:23 AM EST

                                        This is a sad a story about how faith was used to manipulate people to kill. But what is worse? the comments below. lol People just don't get it, it 's not about "Islam is insane". It 's many people are fail to open their eyes to see and embrace the diversity of faith.
                                        Extremist muslims are not the only ones who murder to promote their belief, churches have put countless people on the steak for the same reason. And same for extremist Christians who are performing therapy on children and young adults which lead to their social-mental disorder or suicidal path.

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                                        Reply#24 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 12:47 AM EST

                                        You hit it right on the noggin. Bravo.

                                          #24.1 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 1:45 PM EST
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                                          Interesting story. I can understand how people can begin to feel hatred toward certain foreign nationalities after seeing the dead children and babies their wars cause after these peoples' homelands are invaded. It's a very human feeling and very understandable.

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                                          Reply#25 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 1:17 AM EST

                                          "Human feelings" are also responsible for killing those babies in the first place. Both expressions of human feelings-- war and terrorism in response to it-- are morally wrong and evil. You should be very careful lest your sympathy give way to justification.

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                                          #25.1 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 6:33 AM EST
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                                          For all the money that was spent investigating her, some could've been used to get her a good shrink. A really good shrink. An effin Freud.

                                            Reply#26 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 2:04 AM EST

                                            Sounding like the "Symbionese Liberation Army" syndrome all over again! Every generation has its kooks!

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                                            Reply#27 - Sun Dec 9, 2012 3:46 AM EST
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