Authorities establish timeline of gun purchases in Connecticut school shooting

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A Bushmaster XM-15 .223-caliber rifle, the type of weapon that authorities say Sandy Hook Elementary School gunman Adam Lanza used to inflict most of the fatalities.

NEWTOWN, Conn. -- The three guns carried by the gunman in the bloody Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting were all purchased by his mother since 2010, law enforcement sources told NBC News on Tuesday.

The sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that Nancy Lanza, who friends described as a gun enthusiast, purchased the weapons legally over a three-year period, beginning in 2010 with a Bushmaster XM-15  .223-caliber semi-automatic assault-style rifle -- the weapon that authorities say 20-year-old Adam Lanza used to mow down the victims in Friday’s rampage. She then bought a 9 mm Sig Sauer pistol in 2011, followed by a 10 mm Glock pistol in January 2012. Both weapons also were in Adam Lanza’s possession during his attack on the school, and he used the latter to kill himself when police arrived on the scene, authorities say.


Adam Lanza killed his 52-year-old mother at the home they shared before driving to the school and forcing his way in. Once inside, he killed 20 children and six adults before committing suicide, authorities say.

In addition to the weapons recovered at the crime scene, including a shotgun recovered from the trunk of the car the gunman drove to the school, the Associated Press reported that authorities investigating the shooting recovered three other weapons -- a Henry repeating rifle, an Enfield rifle and a shotgun. It was not clear where those weapons were found.

Meantime, the sources said investigators have found no evidence that Adam Lanza visited area shooting ranges in the last six months.

Federal agents have been examining records at the ranges to see if Adam Lanza had been practicing his marksmanship in the months leading up to the attack, which could indicate that he had planned the massacre well in advance of carrying it out.   

Michael Isikoff is NBC News national investigative correspondent; NBC News’ Justice Correspondent Pete Williams also contributed to this report.

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Americans who want sensible solutions to the gun problem are in the majority and a growing one. Along with more attention to the mentally Ill which have been neglected is key. Gun nuts will never compromise as their obsession with guns has rendered them totally irrational of course. Paranoid and afraid of their own shadow they are beyond reasoning.

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Reply#27 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:54 PM EST

I am a firearm owner and I would like to see less gun control and more sensible gun regulation NATIONWIDE. I would also like to see the power given back to the people. The people are always the first line of defense.

Not one law enforcement agent was able to stop what occurred in CT. Not one.

Give the power back to law abiding, able citizens and start restricting who can own firearms.

    #27.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:57 PM EST

    Borderlands, that not a fair statement. He killed himself early and killed less children because the police responded asap. Do you really think there would or should be guns in an elementary school just in case. The real culprit is the US and the Mom who thought it was a good idea to buy lots of guns and teach her mentally challenged son to shoot. I hope she suffered!

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    #27.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:24 PM EST

    don't know where you were a war vet at but why is it in israel(yes ,i have spent some time there)just about everyone had a weapon.i mean on the subway,streets, the mall,beach etc...but no mass shootings why ?maybe because there are no gun free zones.and the good always outnumber the bad . and bad people are mostly cowards

      #27.3 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:49 PM EST
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      In a year this article will read " We have no Idea where he got the guns because they were smuggled in thru mexico"

        Reply#28 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:56 PM EST

        Its hard to look at that gun without seeing the faces of these little ones. The adults, too.

          Reply#29 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:56 PM EST

          How many kitchen knifes have been involved in large scaled massacres? Answer: none! High powered assault type weapons with large magazines: many!

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          Reply#30 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:57 PM EST

          box cutters and fertilizer have killed more at one time than any assualt weapon.

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          #30.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:58 PM EST

          True, but if you're going with that logic then don't forget vehicular homicides which outnumber firearm related deaths per year.

          We don't call it vehicular homicide for no reason...

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          #30.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:02 PM EST

          Here's your kitchen knife...2001...Oaska Japan..elementary school.

          Google it.

            #30.3 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:19 PM EST

            A simple web search also found mass-murder knife killings in China, South Korea, Alaska, and London.

            The common factor...the perpetrators were mentally ill. I'm not against some gun control, but maybe we should lock up the mentally ill first, then start securing the guns and knives.

              #30.4 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:30 PM EST
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              It is sooooo sad and disgusting to read how people will STILL support and defend the next criminals' ability to access guns and murder defenseless children while they sit in their school rooms.

              You sicken me. You promote evil.

              God save your souls.

              Bans guns!!!!

                Reply#31 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:01 PM EST

                Australia, England both have gun bans yet they still have gun murders, care to explain how that could happen. Then google guns save lives and see the story's you will never see here. Take your head out of the sand.

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                #31.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:07 PM EST

                why don't the gun control ghouls ever mention how well gun prohibition has worked in mexico? or africa?

                  #31.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:59 PM EST

                  guns are not evil only people are!i ,for one will not become a victim to an evil person. i will use all the tools(guns )at my disposal to ensure that .if you want to be sheeple that is your perogotive ,not mine.to me this is all about tyranny nothing else .these politicians don't give a damn about anything but absolute power,and they will use terrible events ,like in conn. to ensure it.you need to understand the whole picture .these people(politicians)hop[e and pray for things like this to promote thier agenda!

                    #31.3 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:09 PM EST

                    "guns are not evil only people are!"

                    Agree 100 percent, guns are just chunks of steel, it is evil people we have to worry about and there are LOTS of them around. This is why we need to ban these military weapons and extended mags, so that evil people or someone who happens to snap will not be able to pick up anything that makes killing so much more efficient. All semi-autos should be banned and all handguns

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                    #31.4 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:17 PM EST

                    well wish in one hand @!$%# another tell me which one gets full first!

                      #31.5 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:28 PM EST

                      The process has already begun. Check the news. After you wash your nasty hands.

                        #31.6 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:11 PM EST
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                        We have ignored the "well-regulated" part of the Second Amendment.

                        We need to License gun use just like we license drivers and for the same
                        reasons. And we need to issue a Title of Ownership to every gun in America and
                        then buy and sell guns just like we do automobiles, even requiring a renewable
                        yearly registration . Its really pretty simple and counties and states across
                        Amerrica already have similar systems in place.

                        We can weed out at least some of the mentally ill and the extreme nut cases.
                        The idea is to set up a licensing procedure that would require some basic skill
                        testing just like a drivers license does, a written test, and a gun handling
                        proficiency test. Today guns are sold to people who actually have no idea how to
                        use them and the gun industry takes no responsibility for the end result. The
                        Gun License could even be an added endorsement to your drivers license just like
                        current motorcyle endorsements. Rules for issuing Gun Lcenses could be set up,
                        basic requirements like age, skill testing, physical ability, etc. Learner
                        permits could be issued to allow young people to hunt with licensed adults

                        Guns are every bit as dangerous as autos, yet we let virtually anyone buy
                        them without ever performing even the most rudimentary check into whether they
                        should have that right or not. At least this way, over time, we would have every
                        legal gun owner and gun documented. It would help law enforcement tremendously
                        to know before hand what kind of firepower is at any particular address before
                        they get there.

                        We can't "eliminate the weapons" There is no practical way to do that. We
                        need to do what we can do. Everyone is familiar with the driver's licensing
                        process and I think most people would go for this idea. Right now we have no
                        information on anything. We don't know how many guns are out there, who owns
                        them, who has caches' of them, and we are not collecting any revenue for the
                        problems they cause! We could make this licensing system at least self
                        sufficient cost wise and it could result in positive income from renewal fees
                        etc to offset some of the costs of gun mayhem on society.

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                        Reply#32 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:02 PM EST

                        We have ignored the "well-regulated" part of the Second Amendment.

                        FINALLY! Someone who understands the 2nd. I own firearms. I train on an annual basis and I do so at licensed facilities ran by ex-military and law enforcement. I also conceal.

                        IF I choose to commit myself to these actions then I should absolutely be held accountable for what I, and my friends are, a well regulated militia.

                        I've always held to the belief that if someone chooses this route then they are accepting their civic duty and should be held to the same standards as law enforcement because with the skills I have, why shouldn't I?

                        Anyone who chooses to own a firearm, handgun, rifle, whatever should absolutely be required to get training and educated. Right there is the problem, too many yahoo's picking up any ol' firearm thinking they're automatically protected and somehow completely capable.

                        If you ask me, it's ludicrous.

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                        #32.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:10 PM EST

                        YES, all those licenses sure have stopped drunken driving and car wrecks......great idea. Got anymore gems to share?

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                        #32.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:12 PM EST

                        Yes I do stay tuned I'll be right back after this word from our sponsors!

                          #32.3 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:17 PM EST

                          And the Auto manufactures take full responsibility for when their auto's are used in a crime? Or a wreck?

                          33,000 auto related deaths from "Accidents" per year.

                          over 100,000 deaths from "Medical Mistakes" per year.

                          where would you like to start?

                            #32.4 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:18 PM EST

                            San Antonio,

                            Criminals by definition don't obey our laws. However OUR LAWS, define us as a
                            people, they define who we are and what we are, they tell the world what our
                            standards are, and define our aspirations as a society.

                            I refuse to be defined by a madman with a gun, I refuse to be defined by
                            those who put an AK-15 in Adam Lanza's hands, I refuse to allow the NRA and
                            other gun nuts to tell me what I can and cannot do WITHOUT A GUN!

                            I have been sending this idea to every politician that I think will listen to
                            it. Guns are getting a "free ride" in our society while they cause untold harm,
                            division, and costs. Part of the problem is the irresponsible way we as a
                            society deal with them. In America WE are the government. And WE have failed to
                            implement reasonable and sensible policies related to guns. WE would never think
                            of eliminating driver's licensing and automobile registration in America and
                            declare that a statemnt of our "Freedom", that would be irresponsible. But we
                            think nothing of allowing dangerous weapons to go unregistered and their users
                            unlicensed. No one is really qualifing those who pruchase guns and ammo, no one
                            looks to see if they are mentally competent or a psycho case.

                            A militia is assumed to be "able bodied", assumed to be sensible and
                            intelligent, assumed to have good intentions, assumed to be law abiding, assumed
                            to be able to take direction and follow orders. We never check to see if our
                            modern "mIlitia" fits these requirements, yet we put high power weapons in their
                            hands and turn them loose on society!

                            Any help I can get in sending this basic idea to Government officials would
                            be greatly appreciated.

                              #32.5 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:19 PM EST

                              San Antonio, The auto and medical situations you descripe are COVERED BY INSURANCE!

                              How about Gun Owners Liability Insurance??? I think that would be a GREAT IDEA!

                                #32.6 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:24 PM EST

                                James, actually we are. If you kill someone accidentally, you can be held libel. Cover by insurance just means some of it gets paid for, the people are still dead...........guess you just want the money after all.

                                  #32.7 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:31 PM EST

                                  Borderlands,

                                  Thank you. I too own and use guns, have all my life. I have hunted with my family since a boy. I am appalled at the cowboy shoot-em up mentality out there today. So appalled that I am seriously considering ridding myself and my family of guns entirely. I am appalled at those willing to sacrifice the idea of a peaceful and law abiding society to GUNS and a GUN laded world. I am appalled at those that seriously think fighting the government with guns is preferable to working with their community and neighbor to fashion a better government. I refuse to forfeit the founding pronciples of our society, and in fact all human society, so that a few madmen can play macho cowboy.

                                    #32.8 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:34 PM EST

                                    San Antonio, the gun advocates are rife with snide petty little comments like that while contributing NOTHING to an intelligent discussion. Got anything better, we have heard all that crap before.

                                      #32.9 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:38 PM EST

                                      old stupid argument,the second admendment is about tyranny,an armed populace prevents that,just ask any tyrant not owning a car.apples and oranges.little bit of trivia more people evey year die because of registerred and licenced autos than by firearms.

                                        #32.10 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:36 PM EST
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                                        Hey gun nuts I dare you to explain to the parents of the 20 dead school children how you support high powered weapons with large magazines,especially like the one that killed their innocent children. I bet you can't.

                                          Reply#33 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:03 PM EST

                                          Guess you have never been hog hunting.

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                                          #33.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:13 PM EST

                                          when you want to explain to me how gun control would have stopped a raving lunatic who killed his own mother

                                            #33.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:39 PM EST

                                            @ tony first of all the 9mm and .223 are not high powered , both those rounds are on the low power end of spectrum for fire arms. secondly i will agree to banning assault weapons and large capacity mags , if you also agree to a provision that abortions are no longer legal being added to that legislation. i think that is a fair compromise.

                                              #33.3 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:59 PM EST
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                                              And the reason for powerful assault type weapons with large magazines are needed for what logical reason if your a civilian? I know the Canadians are coming over the border to get you! that's a good reason! The real reason of course is your a paranoid scared little pussy! So scared! So paranoid!

                                                Reply#34 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:07 PM EST

                                                Actually its for when the welfare runs out and the gang members our looting on your street, or do you live in a armed gated community.

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                                                #34.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:13 PM EST

                                                In Switzerland assault rifles (fully automatic, or "selective fire") are stored at private homes, mostly SIG SG 550 models to be more precise.

                                                They rank right below the United States in the most firearms per civilian.

                                                They also have some of the lowest firearm relate violence internationally.

                                                I guess the Swiss are just a bunch of pussies.

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                                                #34.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:13 PM EST

                                                Just so you know. The weapon he used is not in the catagory as High Powered. The calibre is 1 step above a 22lr. The cartridge is bigger but the round is smaller. Now if you want to talk about High Power there are the 50 cal and the 30 cal which are considered High Power. I know guns scare you so stay away from them. Its poeple that have no clue about guns always are the loudest against them. Its like I don't to be in the club so you can't either just cause it scares me.

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                                                #34.3 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:29 PM EST

                                                just cause it scares us? Children gunned down in schools, people shot in malls, movie theatres and you think its justs cause guns scare us?

                                                How do you guys separate yourselves from reality like this?

                                                  #34.4 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:21 PM EST
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                                                  NRA talking points on "reasonable"gun control are illogical and irrational. Spin,spin your NRA bullcrap! America is wise to your true motives. The NRA could care less that 20 innocent school children who died and in part are responsible due to their crazed gun nut culture that pushes assault weapons,large magazines,making them seem like their as American as apple pie and everyone should have one.

                                                    Reply#35 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:12 PM EST

                                                    headkick51, the tax we pay on gas is a dedicated tax and that is what we should do on guns and ammunition. Why should those who do not choose to own guns have to provide additional security so that we and our children are safe from gun owners?

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                                                    Reply#36 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:12 PM EST

                                                    For the same reason people who don't have children pay for the schools, the same reason I pay for illegals to go to the hospital, that's how it works.

                                                    Stop the criminal safe zones, the Israeli did and it worked.

                                                      #36.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:18 PM EST

                                                      Guns, ammo and most outdoor related items , boats, motors, fishing and hunting equipment etc. are already taxed voluntarily, it's call the Pittman-Robertson act. and it helps fund most of the parks and outdoor related things that all you greenies like to hike on and look at. It has been in place for years.

                                                      Get a clue about what you are demanding before you type.

                                                        #36.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:26 PM EST

                                                        sj from sc

                                                        Sportmen already DO pay a lot higher tax on sporting goods. It's called the Pittman/Robertson Act & came about around 1928. This tax raises the prices on all sporting goods over 12%. You really need to get all the fact before spouting off. By the way, we learned that in a mandatory Hunter Education Safety Coarse that was paid for also.

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                                                        #36.3 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:26 PM EST
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                                                        Pro life for babies in the wound but not willing to limit guns to keep them safe. How hypocritical!

                                                          Reply#37 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:18 PM EST

                                                          Time to ban Abortion, enough babies have died

                                                            #37.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:22 PM EST

                                                            @ sj

                                                            ok how is this for a compromise. i am willing to ban assault rifles and high capacity weapons if a provision to ban abortions is included with it. i think that is a fair compromise.

                                                              #37.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:03 PM EST
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                                                              OK ! for God's sake .. I get it now ! The assault weapon advocates are highly sensitized to a ban or any diminshed 2nd ammendment rights..

                                                              let's compromise OK ..

                                                              let's shoot for legislation that will at least protect infants and toddlers since it seems 6-7 yr olds massacred children are just collateral damage based upon our society's inability to diagnose, identify, treat all of the mentally unstable and also the ones who currently own guns who will flip to the insanity side of the equation later, plus arm every teacher with a sidearm plus body armor and also require every school to have a guard house with bullet proof windows and single line entry and dogs on premises. Also allow the continued proliferation of any type of military style assault weapon for casual use.

                                                              That sounds about right .. huh ?

                                                              My stupidity thinking , well, if we didn't have the assault weapons .. well ...... but what do I know ?

                                                              I know I didn't have to identifying the bullet ridden body of my 6 -7 yr old child .. but now i understand clearly your position .. it's 100% mental : 0% metal ...

                                                              Hey, if it's 100% mental then how about everyone in a household that owns a gun be required to be checked by a psych 1x per year at the expense of the gun owner ?

                                                              That would solve the issue ?

                                                              Just sayin'

                                                                Reply#38 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:24 PM EST

                                                                How about we just hire 1 or 2 security guards for the schools. Have them be in uniform and armed. Have them partrol the school for Drug use, Smoking, Illegal activities. Have the schools have video monitors that are monitored by the police department dispatch center. Have solid doors on the classroom like they have on airplanes make them fire proof. have the doors with Mag locks that during a lockdown they close and lock. Install Panic alarms in every school that will alert the police and the security guard for any trouble including Irate parents. All of these will prevent all violence at schools not some foolish attempt to ban all guns everywhere.

                                                                  #38.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:36 PM EST
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                                                                  The NRA could care less who has access to a weapon,all they care about is the selling and manufacturing of weapons. They always value guns over peoples iives. Always!

                                                                    Reply#39 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:26 PM EST

                                                                    you do not know anything about the nra .do you how many lives were saved by gunowners?my wife for one,my wife was attacked by a nieghbors dog and if it wasn't for my right to own a gun (9mm,semiautomatic)she could have been severly hurt.also the nra has always advocated the follow up of people who get denied the purchase of weapon.like the shooter was in conn. on the weds BEFORE the shooting.i also know that any and all members of the nra i know would have given thier lives to prevent this tragety.you need to stfu

                                                                      #39.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:25 PM EST

                                                                      The NRA is giddy that their most popular weapon killed all this angels and sales are accelerating. YAH.

                                                                      Weren"t you proud, str8jkt82. Great you need a semi to kill a dog.

                                                                        #39.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:14 PM EST

                                                                        NRA = guns over kindergarden kids, There must be someone in the NRA who has 6 or 7 yr old kids or grandkids so WTF!

                                                                          #39.3 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:42 PM EST

                                                                          Denis, you are advocating something that is not true. learn the facts. no responsible gun owner wants anyone killed by irresponsible use of guns.

                                                                          seek and address the root cause. i'm all for that. if tougher regulation is required i'm all for it. but seek and address the root cause and quit acting on emotion.

                                                                            #39.4 - Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:50 AM EST

                                                                            @tony -wannabe- warvet

                                                                            you couldn't be further from the truth. what is driving your self serving, non-truthful rants ?

                                                                              #39.5 - Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:54 AM EST
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                                                                              Maybe the lady bought the guns legally but just what in the world was her reasoning for having guns in the same house as someone with mental illness.THE TWO JUST DON'T MIX WELL.

                                                                                Reply#40 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:34 PM EST

                                                                                because, obviously, she was also mentally ill as in not able to rationally make a decision.

                                                                                  #40.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:03 PM EST
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                                                                                  How about we just hire 1 or 2 security guards for the schools. Have them be in uniform and armed. Have them partrol the school for Drug use, Smoking, Illegal activities. Have the schools have video monitors that are monitored by the police department dispatch center. Have solid doors on the classroom like they have on airplanes make them fire proof. have the doors with Mag locks that during a lockdown they close and lock. Install Panic alarms in every school that will alert the police and the security guard for any trouble including Irate parents. All of these will prevent all violence at schools not some foolish attempt to ban all guns everywhere.

                                                                                    Reply#41 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:37 PM EST

                                                                                    In other words, you want to put our kids in maximum security prison just so you can keep buying assault weapons (yeah, that's right, get pissed of because I said assault weapons!).

                                                                                    What a retard!

                                                                                    And, kid, nobody said anything about banning all guns everywhere. In addition to being retarded, you're also stupid.

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                                                                                    #41.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:44 PM EST

                                                                                    See this is the problem with Liberals You are all about extremes. Many upon Many schools have security guards at them. Many Schools have Security cameras. many schools have panic buttons. In the inner city they have the because of the violence against the teachers. But you are too stupid and too ignorant to see that. Schools also have metal dectectors to keep kids from bringing knives and guns to school. All public buildings have security because of terrorist threats. With all this uproar about this school and how tragic this is expect schools to be the next terrorist targets. You are such a fool.

                                                                                      #41.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:50 PM EST

                                                                                      Don't change the subject, you described a maximum-security prison. My comment was dead-on accurate.

                                                                                      Read your post again until you understand your own words. 

                                                                                      What a retard!

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                                                                                      #41.3 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:02 PM EST

                                                                                      and who will pay for it? Certainly not the "less government, less spending" republicans.

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                                                                                      #41.4 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:19 PM EST
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                                                                                      All you liberals sure are concerned about your rights being infringed i.e. abortion on demand, birth control paid for by the state i.e. Obamacare....legalized marijuana, basically you don't want anybody to tell you what to do, is that it?

                                                                                        Reply#42 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:38 PM EST

                                                                                        That sounds like less government to me... you're talking about the republicans! Get your politics straight.

                                                                                        I'm glad you're upset, though, the more heartburn you have the better!

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                                                                                        #42.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:40 PM EST

                                                                                        I am a liberal and I will answer. I do not want someone else telling me what to do when what I am doing is my business only and does not harm another citizen in anyway.

                                                                                        Hence-homosexuality and letting gays get married. Their business only and does not harm another citizen?

                                                                                        Smoking dope-ditto.

                                                                                        Birth control covered as healthcare. That is a discussion as to what should be covered under healthcare. Has nothing to do with rights.

                                                                                        Yes republicans, stop trying to put YOUR morals onto me when it has nothing to do with anyone else.

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                                                                                        #42.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:12 PM EST

                                                                                        @tom

                                                                                        then i will agree to a ban on assault weapons and high capacity rounds, if a provision to ban abortions is added to and passed along with it. i think that is a fair compromise for us all.

                                                                                          #42.3 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:07 PM EST

                                                                                          Fallacious comparison. Why, oh why, can't RWNJs use compare and contrast in the correct way?

                                                                                            #42.4 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:14 PM EST
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                                                                                            why was a woman who every reports claimed lived in an upscale neighborhood, who used to be up there in the corporate world, suddenly turned into a gun enthusiast? owning these pictured guns living with admitted and described as troubled young man, kept these kinds of weapons at home, why?

                                                                                              Reply#43 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:55 PM EST

                                                                                              Your lack of knowledge makes you unqualified to comment on this subject. If you can't understand a subject remember this. Its best to remain silent and be thought a fool then open your mouth and remove all doubt.

                                                                                                #43.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:04 PM EST

                                                                                                because she was nuts also. Obviously based on the facts we know.

                                                                                                  #43.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:08 PM EST
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                                                                                                  God doesn't like violence.

                                                                                                  Matthew 26:52 "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.

                                                                                                  Abortion is murder

                                                                                                  Exodus 20:13 "You shall not murder."

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                                                                                                  Reply#44 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:57 PM EST

                                                                                                  I have no problem with guns I have a problem with the doomsday prepper mentality that goes with them in today"s society. I only need one weapon to prove my manhood. That is the weapon I was born with.

                                                                                                  There is no need for assault and semi-automatic weapons. How any person could possibly say the same thing

                                                                                                  would have happened with less weaponry is dillusional at best.

                                                                                                  A real man Or woman in this case. Takes responsibilty for the actions of their peers. They don't hide their head in the sand and blame everyone else. We have a gun problem in this country. The first step toward solution is admitting you have a problem. At the very least gun control will make more people realize the problem. I think the waiting period for guns is 10 days. If you made it one month the only ones that might get impatient are the die hards that can't wait. Maybe some of those are the ones planning on carrying out

                                                                                                  these horrific acts and might think twice about doing it ?

                                                                                                  I personally am getting sick of reading the news and seeing one more act of violence with guns.

                                                                                                  I dont TWIT(which used to be slang for half wit) or do not care to share my life with the Facebook world.

                                                                                                  My one main concern in life is not having my 5 year old grandson grow up where he goes to school to

                                                                                                  learn and does not have to be afraid of whack jobs that need bigger weapons to compensate for the lack of attention they may or may not have got.

                                                                                                  Duck Dynasty uses guns every day and I have yet seen them with semi-automatic weapons.

                                                                                                  Real or staged their primary focus is always on good family values.

                                                                                                  Something that is lost in today's society for the most part.

                                                                                                  There are two types of mental patients those that are born and those that are bred.

                                                                                                  The ones that are born are easy to spot. The ones that are bred ? That would require someone taking time to realize there is a potential problem and try to fix the problem before it is to late.

                                                                                                    Reply#45 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:00 PM EST

                                                                                                    Then you haven't paid attention watching Duck Dynasty. Is that where you get your talking points?

                                                                                                      #45.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:31 PM EST

                                                                                                      I like eveything he said until he used duck dynasty and lost me. Come on, duck dynasty, you lost all credibilitly. I think you are part of the NRA and trying to discredit the anti gun lobby as part of those ridiculous hillbillies! The guns nuts are mostly hillbillies and trailer trash like str and those others I can't remember.

                                                                                                        #45.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:50 PM EST
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                                                                                                        All of the guns were stolen, and their owner killed by someone she trusted in her home. The lesson here is about mental illness, not about guns. Mental illness needs to be taken very seriously.

                                                                                                          Reply#46 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:01 PM EST

                                                                                                          for the 14th time I will ask. I have not received an answer yet from a gun supporter.

                                                                                                          In this case, would this have been prevented if the mother did not own guns, did not train her mentally ill child to use them and did not supply the ammo.

                                                                                                          This is a yes or no answer.

                                                                                                          My prediction: for the 14th time in a row not one gun enthusiast will answer.

                                                                                                            #46.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:06 PM EST

                                                                                                            No, If he wanted to do this, he would have found guns somewhere else. He had already tried twice to buy guns & got rejected. The laws worked. He went to plan "B" . If he had not got them there, we still have plan "C" , "D" & down the line. A killer bent on killing, will kill.

                                                                                                              #46.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:52 PM EST

                                                                                                              @ tom

                                                                                                              the fact that he destroyed his hard drive on his computer, tells me he had alot of back up plans. now adays a smart kid with access to the internet, can whip up all kinds of non-gun mayhem. you can build a bomb strong enough to blow up half that school building from just your average household chemicals. so i would say that was step c for him.

                                                                                                                #46.3 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:12 PM EST

                                                                                                                No, the lesson is don't make guns easily accessible to the mentally ill.

                                                                                                                  #46.4 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:16 PM EST

                                                                                                                  @tom, there have been answers previous to this. you chose to ignore and pretend the answers weren't presented so you could make this post.

                                                                                                                  liar.

                                                                                                                    #46.5 - Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:03 PM EST
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                                                                                                                    first off would like to personaly say what a piece of @!$%# the faggot who write this is ,this @!$%# should be beatin for his remarks of he used them to mow down the victims you should be condemed to hell for such a chicken @!$%# remark second it really doesnt matter when where or how they were purchased the bottom line is these pour pour familys and community as a hole have to deal with this the rest of us should leave them alone and please for gods sack please quit putting these pour people faces in front of us give them some privacy and to obama i truely though you could be a decent human hell i voted for you (of coure im the type that roots for the astroid to hit earth that is why i voted for him because his regime will destroy america and we all get to witness it) i see that you and your agenda wantenly expliot anyone at thier weakest to further your agenda you are truely turning into a scumbag that way. i promise all of you if you truely value your freedom you will get off the gun ban wagon because if they can take away your second ammendment they can take your computer to anytime they want you dont have to believe a word i say read a good history book learn about the crusaders learn about the ottmen empire learn about the indians. history is full of events that changed the course for one agende or another and we are here again i think it sucks we need dads to be Dads and we NEED moms to be MOMS. BUT our court system says no we need to deni parents that right and put these children where the regime can make the most off of them on a personal note im not allowed to even know my daughter because i didnt have enough money to bribe the judge so my ex has her. her parents are rich and can pay the bribe and i get socilized until i can buy my way out maybe i will get to see her when she graduates this phote of her here on horse is one of only few i have of her ironically my ex is clinically diagnosed bipolar i have the records because with bipolar you to have them it helps. but mark my words if we do not stand together this will be the rest of you and by the way yes i was aressted for domestic violence as a result of the devorce they do that now adays and truely say what they want for there reasoning they say i pushed her down the stairs we were standing in the driveway at my parents house and had no stairs at the time new deck was being built i told her to leave and then 10 minutes later i was arrested you all may think im a jackass and probably full of it and make all the comments you want im just saying be carefull what you wish for we may all just get it i for one just want my freedom

                                                                                                                      Reply#47 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:08 PM EST

                                                                                                                      I have said before, the insane do not know they are insane. They think they are sane.

                                                                                                                      The Obama "regime"? Insane. And by insane I mean completely out of touch with actual reality. There is no "regime", that is raging paranoia on your part.

                                                                                                                      I won't even comment on the rest. This is the problem in our country. The republicans have lost their minds and why? Because a man who is half black got elected. There is no other answer at all. Because he has not done one thing from a legislative standpoint to cause this paranoia. Other than being black.

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                                                                                                                      #47.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:17 PM EST
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                                                                                                                      The only two who deserved to die in all of this were named Lanza.

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                                                                                                                      Reply#48 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:09 PM EST

                                                                                                                      Some information about their relationship has surfaced recently. The mother seems to have been very caring of and devoted to her son. Sounds like she went out of her way to try to help him integrate into society. He was a deeply troubled kid. How about his father, do you think he deserves to die too?

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                                                                                                                      #48.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:25 PM EST

                                                                                                                      Yes. Mainstreaming or "integrating deeply troubled kids into society" puts society at risk. I want more protection from your troubled kid than I do from a gun owner without mental issues.

                                                                                                                        #48.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:48 PM EST

                                                                                                                        Integrating gun owners with no sense of responsibility, hair quick tempers, lack of judgement, and hero complexes puts society at far more risk.

                                                                                                                          #48.3 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:19 PM EST

                                                                                                                          substitute "people" with "gun owners" and what changes ?

                                                                                                                            #48.4 - Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:23 PM EST
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                                                                                                                            Oh good. At least this assault weapons and these pistols weren't bought as a result of the ultra-conservative media's "Obama's going to take our guns and the (drawl) gubment is going to force us into indentured servitude" fear mongering campaign after Obama's initial election.

                                                                                                                            That would just be too cosmically ironic...especially considering the nature of most of the gun hugger objections on here (i.e., that "Obama's going to take our guns and the (drawl) gubment is going to force us into indentured servitude.")

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                                                                                                                            Reply#49 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:13 PM EST

                                                                                                                            accept detachable magazines and have at least two out of five features:

                                                                                                                            1) a folding or telescoping stock,

                                                                                                                            2) a pistol grip,

                                                                                                                            3) a bayonet mount,

                                                                                                                            4) a grenade launcher, and

                                                                                                                            5) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor.

                                                                                                                            Which of those features make it more deadly? none, since I haven't yet heard of anyone firing a grenade into a crowd.

                                                                                                                            The majority of "assault" weapon bans do no good because they are based on appearance more than function; that is why the federal ban elapsed in 2004 with virtually no resistance...FROM EITHER POLITICAL PARTY.

                                                                                                                              Reply#50 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:17 PM EST

                                                                                                                              Talk to the hand, boy!

                                                                                                                              I don't recall any of these massacres being carried out with a bolt-action, or any other small-cap weapon.

                                                                                                                              You're just full of hot air and desperation. As for 2004, this is going to be 2013, the year they get banned again. Eat your heart out! Lose some sleep! Take a Rolaids!

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                                                                                                                              #50.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:26 PM EST

                                                                                                                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

                                                                                                                              Here is a mass killing with a bolt action rifle

                                                                                                                                #50.2 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:40 PM EST

                                                                                                                                That's comparing apples to oranges.

                                                                                                                                He was barricaded, shooting from a raised position with a 360º field of view and there were no confined victims. He also did his shooting from long range, not the width of a classroom. That situation is made for a bolt-action, as any sniper will tell you.

                                                                                                                                If someone had a school in lockdown for that long with the kids inside and a semi-AK or AR he'd be able to kill hundreds. 

                                                                                                                                If you'd ever served, you'd know the difference. And if you say you've served, then you didn't learn anything.

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                                                                                                                                #50.3 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:49 PM EST

                                                                                                                                God

                                                                                                                                Did you ever read what he asked? What did the items he listed make the weapon any more deadly? Either you don't know, or you just a prick. Probably both.

                                                                                                                                  #50.4 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:55 PM EST

                                                                                                                                  Yeah. He said "The majority of "assault" weapon bans do no good". That's what I replied to.

                                                                                                                                  You can't read, and although I may be a prick, I'm a smarter prick than you ;-)

                                                                                                                                    #50.5 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:06 PM EST

                                                                                                                                    Charles Whitman in 1966? Really? You believe that is an apt comparison?

                                                                                                                                      #50.6 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:23 PM EST

                                                                                                                                      why not ? when dealing with a homicidal maniac, the means is, whatever is best available, given the situation.

                                                                                                                                      the colt ar-15 was available at the time, but very few people wanted one at the time, based on conversations with my father and his friends as we perused the herters catalog.

                                                                                                                                        #50.7 - Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:17 PM EST
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                                                                                                                                        "Massacre guns" lol.

                                                                                                                                        Leftist trash.

                                                                                                                                          Reply#51 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:18 PM EST

                                                                                                                                          Pissed off, huh? Cool!!!

                                                                                                                                          Rightist moron.

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                                                                                                                                          #51.1 - Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:23 PM EST
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