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Tahir-ul Qadri, with white cap, greets Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain, head of coaltion party Pakistan Muslim League Quaid on Thursday after successfully negotiating an end to the four-day Islamabad protest he ignited.
Seemingly overnight, the moderate Islamic cleric and Canadian émigré Tahir-ul Qadri, whose massive protest forced Pakistan’s government to agree to major concessions on Thursday, has risen from obscurity to become a force to be reckoned with in Pakistani politics.
Until this week, local TV anchors and headlines did not scream his name, as they do now. His face was not plastered on rickshaws and lampposts, nor on signs carried by the 50,000 people who followed him to a sit-in, camp-out, anti-government protest in the cold and rainy streets of Islamabad, where they remain, celebrating his negotiated agreement with government representatives.
But the 62-year-old Qadri landed squarely at the center of Pakistan's latest political crisis, which saw a population desperate for change and frustrated by leaders long-accused of corruption and ineptitude seize upon his message of free, fair elections and accountability at the highest levels.
Qadri, who only returned to his homeland in late 2012, had demanded the immediate dissolution of the current government and sweeping reforms to guarantee free and fair national elections, which are expected to be held this spring. He agreed to something less in Thursday's declaration, signed after hours-long, closed-door discussions with government representatives. The deal calls for the dissolution of the current government before March 16, with elections to take place within 90 days, and a pledge to enforce Pakistan's Constitution regarding the eligibility of political candidates.
Despite denying having any political ambitions, Qadri made himself a part of the political process by stipulating in the declaration that meetings to discuss Pakistan's Election Commission make-up would be held at his office's headquarters and that his own political party -- the Pakistan Awami Tehreek -- would help select a caretaker prime minister.
Lahore-based defense analyst Hasan Askari Rizvi said that Qadri fell short of his aims.
"His assessment was that as he raises populist demands, other groups and parties will fall in line and he will become the undisputed and popular leader of Pakistan. This did not happen," Rizvi said. "However, the federal government in Islamabad has become hostage, because he has brought huge number of his followers to Islamabad, making it impossible for the government to take any action against him."
Tahir-ul Qadri, a moderate Islamic cleric who led a protest in Islamabad that forced the government to make major concessions on Thursday, tells NBC News that his movement is aimed at implementing 'transparency' into Pakistan's government.
Still, for a country built on a feudal mentality, where political loyalties are handed down over generations like family heirlooms, Qadri’s accomplishments are no small feat.
So how did he do it? One former government official, who attended a Qadri rally this week, heard him address the crowd, and spoke to those in attendance, called that "the million dollar question."
"This chap .. he comes here and he holds a huge public meeting in Lahore, which is very well organized and very well-attended, and then this enormous march to Islamabad?" wondered the official, who spoke with NBC News on condition of anonymity. "How did this happen? Who's supporting him? It's a mystery to me."
Professor C. Christine Fair, who teaches at Georgetown University and studies Pakistan, calls Qadri's sudden emergence on the national stage "theater,” and suspects the country’s powerful military helped to engineer the cleric’s return and organize his massive protest.
"If this came out of civil society, he'd be universally lauded,” she said. “The reason he's not is that a lot of people think he's got an invisible hand behind him. This isn't Pakistani civil society saying enough is enough. It's something else."
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For the last seven years, Qadri has by all accounts led a quiet life in Toronto, where he immigrated with his wife and children. But he'd made a name for himself in certain Pakistani circles much earlier.
In the mid-1980s, early in the presidential tenure of Gen. Zia-ul-Haq, the young Qadri was already a known quantity in the corridors of power.
According to a former government official, Qadri was one of a handful of Islamic scholars called in to present his views on how a proper Islamic state should function to Zia -- who came to power in 1977 in a military coup and launched the Islamization of Pakistan -- and his cabinet. Whether or not his input was used is unclear, but he left an impression -- that of a confident, moderate, articulate young scholar who was incredibly knowledgeable on Islam.
His early political career in Pakistan, however, was brief and largely forgettable. He founded the Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) political party in 1989, listing education as its top priority and promising to revive "the faith of the masses in politics, elections and the government." Qadri briefly held office as a member of parliament during the military dictatorship of Gen. Pervez Musharraf, from 2002 until he resigned in protest in 2004. One local report at the time quoted him as saying that Musharraf had reduced parliament's power to "a rubber stamp."
"I don't feel that I should sit in such a powerless parliament which can be suspended with a single stroke of a general's pen," he told Pakistan's Daily Times at the time.
But after leaving the political arena, Qadri succeeded in developing an international network and loyal following in religious and social circles. In 1981, he established an organization called Minaj-ul-Quran International (MQI), founded to promote "true Islamic teachings and philosophy" for those "dissatisfied with the existing religious institutions and organizations and their narrow-minded approach," according to the group's website.
The MQI manifesto espouses, "Love, peace, harmony, universal brotherhood, justice, equity and prosperity," and boasts a registered membership of 280,000 worldwide. The organization claims to be operating in more than 90 countries, including operating 69 educational and cultural centers in Pakistan, and 600 schools educating 170,000 students across the country. A social welfare and disaster relief sister organization was added in 1989, which the website says has delivered aid to victims of "the Tsunami affecting Indonesia; the Bam earthquake, Iran; the South Asian earthquake in Pakistan, as well as various developments and educational projects in Pakistan and other underprivileged countries."
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After founding MQI, Qadri appears to have spent years trying to be heard and cultivating his public image. He wrote books (1,000 of them, according to his website, of which 43 have been published), delivered lectures (5,000 total, 1,500 of which are available for purchase on CD or DVD at MQI sale centers "around the world"). His message and achievements are cross-published and highlighted on multiple websites, including those of his Islamic organization, his political party and his personal site.
But it wasn't until March 2010 that he strode onto the international stage. Qadri wrote and published a 500-page “fatwa,” or Islamic decree, "to place the Islamic stance on terrorism precisely in its proper perspective before the Western and Islamic worlds." The document, which is available for download in four different languages, lays out Quranic laws prohibiting terrorism and the killing of others in the name of Islam. At the time, nine years into the West's "War on Terror," his unequivocal language condemning terrorist acts set him apart from most Muslim scholars, and the world took note. His fatwa won praise from the U.S. State Department, drew international news coverage and made Qadri a sought-after speaker on the international circuit.
In November 2010, he came to Washington, D.C., and delivered a lecture at Georgetown University's Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding. He spoke at the United States Institute of Peace that same month about the struggle against radicalism in Islam. He traveled to England and Australia to discuss terrorism and integration. But back in Pakistan -- where gas prices ballooned, power shortages proliferated and terrorism intensified -- Qadri remained a non-player.
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But while he enjoyed success in his adopted country, Qadri's home country was in precipitous decline.
The International Monetary Fund last year issued a dismal report on Pakistan's deteriorating economy, citing "deep seated and structural problems and weak macroeconomic policies" that have led to low GDP growth and a drain of foreign exchange reserves. Terrorist attacks have killed tens of thousands of Pakistanis and left the country teetering on the precipice of security chaos. A 2012 Gallup survey revealed President Asif Ali Zardari's performance ratings had plummeted and that 87 percent of Pakistanis believed the country was headed in the wrong direction. Power struggles between the military, judiciary and ruling government persisted, preventing legislators hell bent on maintaining their posts from turning their full attention to the nation's needs.
Many thought the answer to the country's ills lay with former cricketer-turned-presidential-candidate Imran Khan. His self-proclaimed "tsunami" of supporters, inspired by his reputation as an outsider determined to change the system, set attendance records at his rallies, and gave Pakistan's notoriously rough-and-tumble journalists someone to cast as the political dark horse. But the candidate of change lost some of his shine in the Fall of 2012, when he began cherry-picking senior members of the same political parties he was criticizing for his leadership team. One senior adviser, Shireen Mazari, resigned from his party in protest in September. In her resignation letter, she accused Khan of trading his original ideals for “traditional ‘electables.’”
For a country seeking salvation, Qadri, free from the confines of political process, checks the boxes that others in the current cast of characters in Pakistani politics cannot.

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Supporters of Pakistani Muslim cleric Tahir-ul Qadri flash victory signs in Islamabad Thursday as they celebrate government concessions on upcoming elections.
"Who are the other people to be supported?" asked one former government official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity. "They are maybe not as incompetent and corrupt (as the current government leaders), but they are very good runners-up."
Qadri's message, on the other hand, has been simple and consistent.
He has demanded free, fair and transparent elections in a country where political patronage is often bought. He's demanded that political candidates meet the constitutional requirements for candidacy, such as paying their taxes. A recent investigation by Pakistani journalist Umar Cheema found that fewer than one-third of Pakistan's members of parliament file annual tax returns, including president Zardari.
Rizvi says Qadri's support is borne of "widespread alienation" in Pakistan, and is in reaction to the poor performance by the federal and provincial governments.
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But professor Fair believes Qadri's quick rise has all the hallmarks of Pakistan's powerful military, which has historically worked to influence policy and force political turnover -- both behind the scenes and through direct intervention. Though the military leadership has publicly taken a backseat during power struggles playing out before national elections, she believes it is privately pulling strings to prevent the same government officials from winning a majority, and to keep its hand in the game.
"They know that Pakistanis will not tolerate a direct military intervention. And this is (going to be) the second peaceful transition where parliament serves out its full term in Pakistan," Fair said of the military leaders. "Every time it happens, it makes it more difficult for the army to intervene. I don't think the intention is to overthrow the government -- it's to weaken the PPP (ruling party) before elections."
In an interview this week with NBC News, Qadri lambasted the current government as a "total failure," but insisted his goal was to reform, not topple it.
"We want to eradicate our political process and electoral process from might, money and manipulation," he said. "We want true democracy in place.”
He vehemently denied any support from Pakistan's military, or from external forces, as has been speculated in the local press, calling it "a false accusation," and "disinformation."
Now that he has the ear of the country and its leaders, it's unclear what Qadri will do next.
Under the agreement signed Thursday, he has a role to play in the lead-up to elections. And while he insists he holds no political ambitions, that doesn't stop him from comparing himself to the elected-leader of the United States when asked what he stands for.
"I would say my slogan is like the slogan of Obama in America," he said. "He stood for change. If Americans accepted the slogan of change and voted for him, why not the same change? Democratically formed, the change in the corrupt system, why not the same change, democratically, peacefully should come in Pakistan?”
NBC's Wajahat S. Khan and Fakhar Rehman in Islamabad, and Mushtaq Yousafzai in Peshawar, contributed to this report.
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What? Did I read this story correctly, a Muslim cleric who isn't shouting off with their heads and death to all infidels? Moderation in Pakistan? Naw, can't be, I must still be sleeping.
Where is my coffee.......
This is how Islamic clerics begin!
Pakistan was formed in 1947 as a pure Islamic nation.
Now it is Hateistan and Killistan.!
Zia didn't launch the Islamization of Pakistan in 1977. Pakistan was that way from its founding in 1947. The land it occupies was the Northern part of India. When India sought freedom from England after WW2, Muslims , led by Jinnah , refused to live in a multi-cultural India where all religions were accepted and respected. They demanded that a separate country for Muslims be established in the Northern part of India. Gandhi and other non-Muslim leaders of India wanted one country where all views were accepted.
Muslims refused to accept this tolerant view and rioted , burned and killed until the remainder of India agreed to allow a separate country to be created for Muslims. Millions of people were victims of this religious intolerance. That's how Pakistan was created. It was Islamist from the start.
To learn about his for yourself , read the book entitled " Freedom at Midnight " by Larry Collins which tells of the struggle of India for independence and how and why Pakistan was formed.
None of them is moderate although they pretend to be. Don't keep your hopes too high. Watch
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I hope he has a good security detail because in a country like Pakistan they would not think twice about killing him for his different beliefs.
exactly what i thought...even got wide-eyed and read the whole thing none stop...like i was mistified...the dought of his being alive tomorrow has reared its ugly head...terrorist will not go quietly into that night...we have a problem here with BULLIES...over there its THE RULING PARTY...
SENTENCE THE JUDGE TO TAKING CARE OF THOSE CHILDREN,,,,he could be impeached, ya know...these gutless judges have sentence us...the same with legal abortion...guess who pays for that...making every tax payer a MURDERER........................
MY LAST comment is in the wrong place...how does this happen....the guy was sentenced to 80 years for keeping his son in a cage then killing him...look it up...
We can only hope......(do you have an extra cup ..... I drink mine with a little cream and sugar.)
Seriously, this is a wait and see situation. Can he make the elections happen? Will he, or someone with similar aims/beliefs win? Can they make happen, in a land that hides terrorists? In fact, if someone like him were to win, and then be assassinated, then there might be such a backlash against the terrorists.......I do not hope that happens. But, the terrorists kill anyone who doesn't do exactly what they think he/she should do. (At least, it might let us catch our breath, before something else pops up somewhere else in the world.)
Too much money and power at stake....will be very hard for him to succeed.
The Muslims are not Happy!
They're not happy in Gaza They're not happy in Egypt ..They're not happy in Libya ..They're not happy in Morocco ..They're not happy in Iran ..They're not happy in Iraq ..They're not happy in Yemen ..They're not happy in Afghanistan ..They're not happy in Pakistan ..They're not happy in Syria ..They're not happy in Lebanon ..
SO, WHERE ARE THEY HAPPY?
They're happy in Australia .They're happy in Canada .They're happy in England ..They're happy in France ..They're happy in Italy ..They're happy in Germany ..They're happy in Sweden ..They're happy in the USA ..They're happy in Norway ..They're happy in Holland .They're happy in Denmark .
Basically, they're happy in every country that is not Muslim and unhappy in every country that is!
AND WHOM DO THEY BLAME?
Not Islam, Not their leadership,Not themselves.
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!
AND THEN; They want to change those countries to be like....THE COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM WHERE THEY WERE UNHAPPY!
So true.
Pakis and Saudis were responsible for 9/11 in the US.
We see Muslims inventing problems in most of the non-Muslim nations and many Muslim nations.
Even in the US, we can notice these actions! They invented problems in Dearborn, Michigan.
In the US, one Muslim from Bangladesh wanted to blow up Fed Reserve. He had come for studies and was hardly twenty! As per his family: "he is pious and he wanted to study."
One Saudi Chemical engineering student wanted to jihad with chemical weapons in the US!
When Muslims form more than five percent, downhill march starts.
Muslims are inventing problems in Myanmar, Thailand, Philippines, India and other places.
When they form more than 30 percent then it is Sudan, Somalia, Nigeria, Lebanon (few decades back)
In Muslim majority nations, they are doing genocides of minority Islamic sects like Shiites, Sufis, Ahmedias and other minority tribes.
The moment Muslims form a voting block, some parties support them!!! Govt is scarred to touch them!
These are going on in UK, France and many European nations too.
If Saudi Arabia and many Muslim nations do not permit non-Islamic religious places and scriptures, Muslims have no right to have their mosques, hate preaching and killer training centers, in non-Muslim nations.
If non-Muslims can’t live in peace in Muslim nations, Muslims don’t have any right to live in our nations.
Change the reguirements for immigration and stay to kick out problematic ones.
Also declare Pakistan and Saudi Arabia as terrorist nations.
Well said, perfect and right on the mark!
To be fair, I went to his website and read some of his material. He may be a voice in the wilderness, but he's certainly bucking the traditional strident voices of Islam. He's said Muslims in the west should integrate into their societies and work to make them a better place. He said Muslims are free in the west, including the US. Obviously much of this could be posturing but it seems to be a different message than we see too often from Muslim leaders.
This is good reporting, typically seen by the "Economist" or some other mature news source. I'm not plugged in enough to know if it's accurate, but I'd like to see more of this. Good job
Bob,
Website is to fool the infidels like us.
Watch: www.faithfreedom.org/?p=43154
Sorry Bob
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Bob: Since the birth of Islamic cult, we heard/seen too many craps like this cleric.
The track records of followers of Islamic cult are only stealings, lootings, kidnappings, rapings, hating, killing and genocides of those declared as infidels!
In the long run, they have not done anything positive to a place, society and nation. They are liabilities and curses on earth.
Anyone including Muslim sect members can themselves be declared infidels!
At least, Islam is not a religion for 21st century. Just wait and watch its fate as we move on!
Jonathan, don't single out islam. All religions are anachronisms in the 21st century and should be relegated to the status of astrology or necromancy, or alchemy
Don't be fooled by this one. Never meet a paki, mussi or afgani I could trust.
Most agree with you! If one goes near them, one is finished.
Don't forget Israel and all the trouble they are brought by Islamic Extremists who want an Islamic Nation right in the middle of Israel. Whoever Palestinean people were long ago, they are no more. The whole idea is another new Islamic Nation with jihadists from all over to take shelter, be trained and use the Tunnels from Gaza as a business & weapon transfer. Just like all these other Nations, even Egypt now, the plans are pretty universal. What this cleric says sounds good to the West but cannot exist in an Islamic Nation. Sad, but true. I'm not a basher but I'm not blind either. I even went to some Muslim studies because I heard so many people raving over it but went away with a confirmed NO. There are many nice readings in the Bible too, but how many people try to follow the new Testament. About as few people as their are socialists.
No Theocracy can be democratic. Ever. Someone will always try to dictate what God wants (and usually for their own goals) Whether its how God wants people to vote, eat, dress, discipline family members or kill nonbelievers...the Myths are far to deep to change with one Clerics "Westernized" interpretaion. This goal to conquer the World is still brewing...with Islam, Capitalism, Fascist World Banks etc and to support any of their efforts has already lead to our loss of Freedom.
William-360414,
There are happy people all over the world that face different scenarios, different upbringings, aspire to different goals, abide by different ideologies, were raised under different political processes and have been successful in their pursuit of happiness. So I propose to you that happiness, while comforting, is not what is at stake in some of these countries you refer to, and Is not what these "dark horse" philosophers are fighting for. They are fighting for something much more sacrosanct. They are fighting for Freedom!
This Man's aspirations appear to be the aspirations shared by the hopeful of humanity. The hope that we may be free to feel the way we are supposed to feel. WORTHY (Of what ever feelings you wish to pursue) And, I hope he succeeds!
Next time you feel the urge to lump whole regions of the world in to one word categories, I hope you have the mental resourcefulness to mind the thought!
Cheers to the hopeful of humanity!
MindtheThought,
So he is fighting for freedom? Whose freedom? Freedom for all Pakistanis or just the muslim Pakistanis?
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Let us remember that Tahir ul-Qadri is a Sufi. The Sufi tradition is typically not accepted as valid by fundamentalist Sunnis and it is, therefore, not clear that the emergence of an influential Sufi populist would increase the influence of the Taliban or other militant fundamentalist Islamists in Pakistan. In addition, the Sufi tradition has a long, home-grown history in South Asia and, as a result, there is no reason to make the automatic assumption that the emergence of an influential Sufi populist would increase the influence of foreign militant Islamists in Pakistan.
We should also consider the widespread perception that there is corruption in Pakistani politics. Regardless of whether that perception is accurate, the perception of corruption undermines popular confidence in a potentially unstable the political system, and a loss of popular confidence in the political system could lead to a takeover by the Taliban or other militant fundamentalist Islamist groups.
Remembering that the Sufi tradition is not typically accepted by fundamentalist Islamists and has a long, home-grown history in South Asia, it may well be that Tahir ul-Qadri is not the worst option for Pakistan, even if some people may not consider him to be the best option.
Sufis, love and peace singing and dancing fooled many on the true colors of Islam.
When followers of Isalmic cult could not not conquer by swords, these Sufis were able to fool people in many areas.
Sufis are hunted in Pakistan, Mali and other Muslim majority nations. Most probably, this Qadri will be blown up by terrorists.
The Islamic extremist Frankenstein monsters have started backstabbing big time the inventers of Pakistan, British, and the masters (US and allies) who kept them alive.
In most of the Islamic terrorism and plots in the US, Britain, Europe and other places, Pakis have a hand.
Half of NATO forces deaths in Afghanistan are due to Pakis.
Before followers of Islamic cult set their feet on Afghan and Paki regions, these regions were quite peaceful and prosperous.
Once the cancer of Islam gradually got control of the region, those regions have become raping, stealing, looting and killing fields.
In Afghanistan, Paki proxies Taliban did not even tolerate Buddha’s statue in Bamiyan.
Many Paki areas and some Afghan areas have become breeding and exporting centers for illegal activities including drugs growing and trading and export of Islamic radicals and terrorists all over the world.
British invented Pakistan in 47 and Pakistan is supposed to be a pure Islamic nation. In Pakistan, it was massive genocides of minorities in between 48-50.
Percentages of Hindus and Sikhs were reduced from about 24 percent less than three years by rapes, stealing, lootings, terrorizing and killing on a massive scale.
Paki Islamic religious madness did not end there.
Sunni Pakis are after Ahmedias, Sufis (fake love and dance Islamic soap opera people), Shiites (20 percent), Hazaras, and Baloochs and other minority sects/tribes.
Shiites, Sufis, Ahmedias and other minority sects/tribes people are blown up while they pray in their mosques on Fridays. And even hospitals are bombed to kill those injured.
How long does he expect to live?
There is no risk to his life because he is one of them. He is the prime example of islamic deception. Watch www.faithfreedom.org/?p=43153
I'm interested in the analysis that the military is behind him. I've been expecting the military to take power again one way or the other.
Give all the coloring/spins/excuses/explanations one wants to give: Pakistan is a failed state.
"For the last seven years, Qadri has by all accounts led a quiet life in Toronto, where he immigrated with his wife and children. But he'd made a name for himself in certain Pakistani circles much earlier."
What sort of an Islamic cleric is he if could not even stay in Pakistan?
He looks like more of an opportunist trying to join the crowd of politicians looting Pakistan!
If this cleric gets some power, he will be worst of all.
There are every dangers of him being blown up like many Sufis. If his family is with him, they will also be blown up!
He has come with a bang and he will go faster with a bigger bang!
Maybe people can be wrong, but somehow I smell the Paki military behind him. The military there has always played a large part in any government.
Will he be alive next year? Good question, but it can only be answered by a true popular vote. He sounds like a populist and avows political ambitions, but he definitely has political ambitions. The next President, backed by the Paki military, possibly. Or another person, again backed by the military.
I personally don't believe him. I think he's controlled, and controlled well, by the military.
Perfect. Well said.
This is really exceptional reporting. Good job. Would like to see more of this.
Alot of articles nowadays about Muslims from Canada. Yet another western country inundated?
Canada to the US just a border away!
I wish him the best and hope for a successful Democratic Pakistan.Too many people assume that all Muslims are of the terrorists persuasion and that is not true.
You may be perfectly honest in you profession as a cleaning lady but he not in his. Watch
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As Allah is furious with Pakis, your best of luck and others like you are going to be a waste!
Democracy, Pakistan and Islam: some may be day dreaming on this combination!
Oh, my! An anatomically incorrect Ken doll wearing only a swimsuit! It's the end of the world!
And in that itemized list, the vast majority of items are described only as "unprofessional" or "inappropriate" and when actually described include HORRIBLE things like WWII aircraft nose art including WWII aircraft models with nose art, posters with nose art, books containing nose art. Gosh, it was OK back in the 40s, but it's not now? Besides, it's a historic item!
I'm so glad I'm retired. What a bunch of worthless pencil pushing prudes with nothing better to do. BTW, here' my favorite USAF song, not that garbage "Off We Go" thing we got from the Army Air Corps - search YouTube for "1957 Song Salutes Air Force Blue." VASTLY better.
These Pakis and their clerics have fooled the world too many times.
One can't trust a word of what they say or do!
Even while acting as a "strategic ally" and draining our tax monies, they were backstabbing us by sheltering Osama.
The ungrateful and backstabbing Pakis are responsible for half of NATO forces deaths in Afghanistan.
Does such a nation deserve to be on the map?
Most are smarter than them to be fooled again and again.
Since its inception, the government (and I use that term loosely) of Pakistan has been handed down from one inept 'leader' to another. Everyone with power in Pakistan knows one thing -- money. Money can buy drone flights and intelligence. Money can buy supply routes for US forces in Afghanistan. Money gained from corrupt political deals lines the pockets of the ruling 'class' and the generals who support the politicians. Pakistanis, as a whole, are fairly educated and understand there should be change, but are generally afraid to undertake it themselves, since Pakistan's 'generals' have the poser to 'disappear' citizens at will. Sounds like Iran. Anyway, if this guy can capture the spirit of the Pakistani people and give them a rallying point for something other than 'jihad' and hate, there is hope for Pakistan. Otherwise, just nuke the whole region.
I am not a Pakistani but I do find some of the comments offensive. Pakistan is an Islamic society, and has made Islam, like many other Muslims countries, its constitution and law. But there are moderate Muslims in Pakistan...though the word "moderate" is debatable. Some are liberal and secular, but will not say so - otherwise they will go the way of Benazir Bhutto or her father. Others are just a little nicer than the traditional theocrats or military men, but autocratic and dictatorial nevertheless.
Pakistan could have made better choices...including with its poor secular democratic neighbor. But this is what you get when too many men, arrogant, rigid, insular and clueless, assume power in highly feudal societies that also has a bruised colonial past. Indians next door also have no pride. They allow this failed state to kick them around. There have been more than twenty terrorist attacks in India from Pakistan since 2001. Has Mr. Quadri spoken to this?
Any small improvement or movement in Pakistan like Mali or Sudan, is a big achievement. Let us not forget that. If they can hold a rally without bombing or shooting or beating on women that is an achievement. Muslims, I will hand it out to them, are an organized clan with strong loyalty to each other...next only to Jews. It is a religion that Mohammed created and enforced to help warring tribes unite...and unite they did under a religious theocratic banner. Long way to go for Pakistan...but let us remain optimistic.
But why is Pakistan being given so much attention on MSNBC? Is it the preoccupation of its writers...who cannot write about anything other than "murders, rapes and Pakistan"? It appears that America's next twenty years will be spent with Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan and Pakistan. And Sudan, Libya, Mali and Congo.
Congratulations on the new sophisticated focus.
Say....what if the Paksitani Military really has become as sick and tired of being both a Pawn and a Power Broker, often at the same time, in Pakistani Politics, as they are of being called on to raid the "Terrorists" hiding out in the "Federated (Ha!) Tribal (Uh-huh; as they're certainly NOT an living in an 'Ummah' that is 'Wahid', there; but, rather, in an 'Ummah' that is ONLY 'Pashtun', or ONLY 'Hazzari', or ONLY 'Tajik', or ONLY 'Uzbek'!) Areas" of the Swat Valley?
What is they LIKE the Drone Strikes, because they've acknowledged that the aformentioned 'Wahid-ness of the Ummah' disruptors, are nothing but a bunch of Apostates who deserve nothing better than to be sent to straight to Allah - and that the innocents, who've become 'collatoral damage', are actually MARTYRS, who gave their Lives for a Future in which their Ummah really IS Wahid - for the first time ever!!!
Well....I can tell you that's the case; but I can't tell you much about how I know it......lets just say that "W" tried to make me toe the "line" regarding certain points of "view" (For example, his support for the Austin Texas Ku Klux Klan....after they abused the Patriot Act to murder three people), and that I done went and (metaphorically speaking, of course) blowed it all up in his, and the Ku Klux Klans, and the Neo-NAZI National Alliances, face.....while saving many, many lives (many of them American Soldiers) in the process.
Anyway.....I think this guy is just what Pakistan needs; and I pray that the Pakistanis see and understand that their Military does indeed have a "New Outlook" on things......so, even if they ARE behind this guy, maybe you should be, too!
i thought the second coming was supposed to unite everybody? Looks to me the middle east is way way worse than it ever was under Bush! Nice foreign policy dems. What a mess its going to be in 4 years cleaning up after this man child....