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Obama supporters like this woman who showed up to cheer at a campaign event in Melbourne, Fla., on Sept. 9, may not realize how much personal data the organization collected, or what it's doing with it now.
President Barack Obama’s presidential campaign has turned over its most valuable asset — a massive computer database containing personal data on millions of American voters — to a new advocacy group created to advance the White House agenda on issues ranging from gun control to immigration reform.
Organizing For Action (OFA), the advocacy group set up in recent weeks by the president’s top political aides, has already acquired access to the database under a leasing agreement with the Obama campaign, Katie Hogan, a former Obama campaign aide who is now serving as spokeswoman for the lobbying group, told NBC News. The information will be used to unleash an “army of the door knockers” to back the president’s legislative agenda as well as raise money for “issue ads” – particularly in crucial congressional districts, she said.
As an opening salvo, the group on Friday urged the president’s supporters to call members of Congress in support of Obama’s gun control proposals, even offering a sample script of what they should say.
The creation of OFA, which is being chaired by former Obama campaign manager Jim Messina, is stirring controversy – both among public interest groups over the group’s plans to accept unlimited corporate donations, and among privacy advocates over the transfer of the database.
“It’s extremely worrisome,” said Lillie Coney, associate director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, noting that Obama campaign supporters likely have no idea that personal data they voluntarily shared with the campaign has now been transferred and is being used for purposes beyond the election.
Dubbed the “nuclear codes” by campaign aides, the Obama campaign database is widely described as one of the most powerful tools ever developed in American politics. According to published reports, it contains the names of at least 4 million Obama donors – as well as millions of others (the campaign has consistently refused to say how many) compiled from voter registration rolls and other public databases. In addition, the campaign used sophisticated computer programs — with code names like “Narwhal” — to collect information through social media: Anybody who contacted the campaign through Facebook had their friends and “likes” downloaded. If they contacted the campaign website through mobile apps, cellphone numbers and address books were downloaded. Computer “cookies” captured Web browsing and online spending habits.
“I can’t think of anything that rivals this data,” said Coney, noting that much of the data was voluntarily supplied by voters, something that consumers are often reluctant to do when dealing with commercial companies. “The private sector would love to be able to do what the (Obama) campaign was able to do.”
OFA spokeswoman Hogan said that Obama supporters have the option in emails they receive of opting out — or unsubscribing — from the list, as required by federal law. But critics say that is not necessarily an option for information collected about voters through other means (such as public databases) and note that many on the list likely don’t notice the “unsubscribe” fine print on the emails.
At the same time, OFA’s plans for corporate-backed lobbying of Congress have spurred sharp criticism from campaign reformers — a cause the president once championed. Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21, a leading reform group, called OFA “dangerous and unprecedented,” noting that it has been set up under the same section of the tax code used by controversial GOP advocacy groups, such as Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS (as a 501(c)(4) “social welfare” nonprofit organization). This will allow the group to accept unlimited donations from wealthy individuals and corporations.
“With his decision to allow corporations to fund the new organizations that will operate as an arm of his presidency, President Obama has ‘given a green light to a new stampede of special interest money,’” said Wertheimer in a statement that quoted Obama’s own words two years ago to denounce the Citizens United Supreme Court decision striking down many campaign finance limits. “This would take President Obama about as far away as he could possibly get from the goal he set in 2008 to change the way business is done in Washington.”
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In response to a request for comment, a White House spokesman emailed recent comments by top Obama political adviser David Plouffe to ABC’s George Stephanopoulos: “Yes, we will voluntarily disclose all of our donors,” Plouffe said. “And we're very excited. The people who actually made the president's campaign in both '08 and '12, our great grassroots volunteers, were pretty clear after the election they wanted to stay with it and they want to be out there organizing, driving message, holding people accountable on issues like immigration, you know, the deficit and jobs, gun safety.”
But how much the group will disclose about the source of its money is still unclear. There is no legal requirement for a 501(c)(4) group like OFA to do so. Hogan, the OFA spokeswoman, declined to say how often the group will make disclosures or whether it will report amounts that donors give or simply provide a list of contributors. (Such a list -- without amounts detailed -- was recently released by the Presidential Inaugural Committee.) “That’s still being worked out,” she said.
As if to underscore the role of major corporations in helping to underwrite OFA, the unveiling of the group came at a special invitation-only event on inaugural weekend at the Newseum, sponsored by Business Forward, a corporate-backed trade group close to the White House, according to a Politico account. Business Forward -- whose charter members include Citi, Dow Chemical, Duke Energy, Ford, Google and Comcast, majority-owner of NBCUniversal, parent company of NBC News -- had lobbied for the White House-backed fiscal cliff deal, specifically touting its tax breaks for businesses, such as write-offs for new capital investment and research and development credits, according to a statement on the group’s website.
“We need you. This president needs you,” Messina said at the launch event, according to the Politico account, adding that the national advisory board of OFA will be “filled with people in this room.”
One corporate executive who attended the event told NBC News the roll out -- which featured a spirited talk by former President Bill Clinton on gun control -- drew numerous major Obama campaign bundlers and fundraisers, such as Obama campaign finance chairman Mathew Barzun (now reportedly a front-runner to be tapped for ambassador to the Court of St. James) and finance director Rufus Gifford.
“My takeaway from this was that they set this up to take advantage of the Citizens United decision and operate this outside the Democratic National Committee so they won’t have to file (election) reports,” said the executive, who asked not to be identified.
Hogan, the OFA spokeswoman, said that OFA will not run campaign ads — only “issue” ads that do not fall under the election laws.
But the underlying political purpose of the group is not disputed. “The way it’s organized, we legally can’t participate in elections,” Stephanie Cutter, a top Obama campaign official who now serves on the board of OFA, said at a recent Politico-sponsored inaugural event. “But that doesn’t mean the issues we’re organizing around won’t mobilize the American people to vote for things — to vote for that economy we’ve been working for, to vote for immigration reform, to vote for common sense gun reforms. I think we can affect elections, we just can’t legally be involved in them — for this particular organization.”
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This Obama administration will do anything to circumvent democracy.
People are starving, and this dictator is only concerned about 'pushing his agenda'.
Imagine that!! Doing the same thing as Carl Rove. Doesn't mean the same thing when Pres. Obama does it as it does when Karl Rove plays his dirty tricks to win elections. Come on Dems, keep em outsmarted.
That pretty much sums things up.
Groucho Marx was a jovial fellow, you sir are not. The president's agenda includes helping those "people who are starving" in America as well as around the world. Lighten up a little. Everyone knew the Obama for America (OFA) was being converted to Organizing for Action (also OFA). The people in that database are supporters of the President and therefore mostly welcome the inclusion it affords them in future policy discussions.
How is increasing individual participation the political process "circumventing democracy" ?
good luck jackasses who voted for obama, get ready for the robo calls for everything under the sun and "we need your support" mailers...
you made a deal with the devil and now he has your info to do with what he pleases ! suckers !
So can I sue them for giving out my information without my permission?
Dr. Pavlov here checking on my research dogs. Goood.... goood.... you're alll slobbering with ferocious but completely mindlesss Obama hate- prompted by nothing more than the mention of his name. Good independent thinking RIght WIngers is what I calll you. Ruffff Rufff RUfff.
It appears President Obama has finally listened to his base after trying during the first term to get Congress to work with him. While I regret the resistance of the extremists to working for the American people during the first term, I applaud this Administration for turning to the American Public. It is, after all, supposed to be a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, is it not? He's finally learned that in Washington, the focus is not on the wishes of the people, but the "good ol boy" network of power and money. I support OFA. Why build an organization of the people and then not empower them to stay involved in politics?
jeff37 you stupid!
Why has the Democrat machine not forced ALL Democrats in the House to vote in support of Obama?
If they won't vote to support his agenda, they should attack and demean these Democrats in public.
Good old Chicago politics? Your opinion doesn't matter
Oh look...it's a free Obama phone on display!!
Is she holding one of those new "Obama phones" given out to get votes?
President Barack Obama’s presidential campaign has turned over its most valuable asset — a massive computer database containing personal data on millions of American voters
I would have a BIG problem with someone just giving out my personal information!!
Scruples, the white house has none!
“It’s extremely worrisome,” said Lillie Coney, associate director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, noting that Obama campaign supporters likely have no idea that personal data they voluntarily shared with the campaign has now been transferred and is being used for purposes beyond the election.
Duped again!!
If victims of stolen/misused personal data don't shout/complain, then data thieves believe they have tacit approval to use that data as they wish.
It's like in some countries, if you don't have bars or security doors on your house, it's okay for someone to steal your property.
I am guessing that the grass roots people, you know the 47% Club that elected the President, now want to see their dreams come true.
Well good, maybe someone will finally publish the names and addresses of all of these gun banners the same way they did to permit holders. If turn about is fair play.
this sums it up ; '' republicans are obstructionist '' ; THEY CAN USE MY DATA BASE , TILL THE LAST SECOND OF THE LAST MINUTE OF THE LAST HOUR OF THE LAST DAY OF THIS GREAT HISTORICAL PRESIDENT'S TERM IN THE '' BLACK HOUSE '' !!!!!
Hopefully this time goes by fast.
Gotta love the media! This headline makes it sounds like this is the first time this has ever been done. If you use the internet, folks, your info is out there. EVERYONE does it. And the vast majority of them are using your information for something you don't want to be associated with or to sell something. As a matter of fact, I was asked via e-mail if I wanted to be included and I said YES. I jump at a chance to be part of something positive in this era of Republican negativity. Let's get something done! Dictator? I hardly think so. It's actually something we've seen precious little of with the Republican Presidents.... it's called LEADERSHIP. While all the conservatives are running around in circles and muttering how "it can't be done, it can't be done" the rest of us are teaming up to make it happen.
I do believe we need to reduce the number of special interest groups but thus far prying off the lobbiests as proven impossible. I think this coalition is basically "if you can't fight em, join em."
A constant barrage of off season phone calls, interrupted meal times, more cause advertising for issues which would be non issues in the editorial page of printed newspapers. Boots on the ground, no, more like fingers on Twitter and Facebook. Yes more computer data for hackers, spammers, questionable advertising claims and sales targeting young people such as middle school students, and Alzheimer's victims. Nor is there any accountability when messages of 120 characters or less are misinterpreted, nor responsibility for authorship.
What is needed here are the names of the individuals who have authority to abuse these lists of names and other data, the Himmler's, Hitler's, Eichman's of the computer "boots on the ground ", so when they start targeting Jews, Gypsies, Communists, Free Masons, Baptist's, and people of other skin colors than themselves as enemies of their cause, and can justify those attacks in 120 characters or less, free speech will be allowed for another week or two,
The only way to combat this is to put out false information. YOu should provide false information every time you leave a footprint on the internet. Male, female, republican, democrat, birthdays , socialist groups ---heck, start liking a few communist groups on social media :) Every time you google something ligit google something outlandish. If you are going to have a footprint in social media have several profiles. Pretty soon they are going to see that so much information on everyone does not increase revenue. It is a time and money waster----AND THE Corporate State of America won't stand for that.
@jeff D, Well somebody is lieing here, you claim he starving people and others claiming he feeding to many. The question here is where is the food going? Now don't give me that Retorical Crap about the Govt giving them cell phones. Those phones have limitations, usually just talk.
networking is power.
Now Obama begins building his army. He has stolen an election,and now the takeover of America has begun. As law abiding American citizens are having their rights taken away and more rights given to radicals,illegals,lawbreakers,and to the lazy and unproductive. Now ruling by executive fiat,no one can vote against or oppose anything he wants to do. Now,millions of his brainwashed supporters will be marching in lockstep to complete his third world socialist agenda. Look back in time about the "great dictators" in history. It all happened the same way. ALL HAIL KING OBAMA! OUR RULER AND SAVIOR! America,as we knew it,is toast.
Yeah Obama wants to help the poor... I don't really understand how it works though - how is adding poor people helping them?
So this is how freedom dies.
With thunderous applause.
Steve;
The agenda here has nothing to do with "helpipng people". The only agenda is the agenda. Barry is pushing his socialist agenda at voters - and quite a few of these voters are people that don't consider issues - only the candidate. No doubt there will be a lot of free phones scattered here just incase anyone was to start thinking for themselves......
Great job FedUp!
Rocky--love that line. Hate how necessary it is.
Fedupwith Fed, Duped Again?. You post as if being duped is a daily occurrence. Makes me wonder if you have credulity isssues.
Ummmm no. They have 250 minutes of talk and a certain amount of text messages per month. Now why would you need text messages? In case someone isn't available for your call? If not available, they probably won't get your text until your "emergency" is over. This phone is supposed to be for communication to protect and help you in times of need. Not to discuss what is on sale at Wal-Mart.
Well at least the truth behind the need to hand out Obama phones is coming into focus. People need a means of getting those Obama text messages. This term maybe it will be free internet, as the Democrats need to get everyone connected to the Obama agenda one way or the other. Hey, so long as there is a dollar to borrow, or more taxes to raise, we can afford it.
Ronnie - it bothers lefties when challenged and it riles them when challenged with facts. FedUp has made a point and all you offer is a poorly executed insult. You appear challenged. Do you have something to offer or just more insults?
Barry is indeed setting himself and his party up with questionable actions - hijacking personal information as an example. The libbies are getting what they deserve - to bad it's the rest of us that end up paying - again.
Interesting that again, the open minded fair dealing lefties collapse a post challenging their messiah. Just challenged I guess.....
Hey Rick-3416939 Along with the free Internet comes the free computers.
I've seen nothing but positive coming out of Washington lately, the government of by and for the people is begging to work for the people and not just the very rich and the corporations. I am glad that Obama is "taking it to the people" where it belongs.
Hey Chuck!! Spot on!! The only CREDIBILITY issue lies with King Barry!!
Is that what you say about Rove? Hypocrite!!
so I'm in the do not call list... and now an advocacy group can circumvent federal law by using Obamas campaign list to spam me.... nice....
@pigotry- networking is power? Being sold out is too! This is what you voted for!
LMFAO ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
Johnho - not only is Barry "taking it to the poeple" - he's putting it in the people and really giving it to the people.
If you think higher taxes without cutting spending - and using the power of the office to cover-up criminal incompetencey, inaction with two rogue nations threating the world with nuclear war is "nothing but positive" than you need to do some more thinking.
Time for you puppets on both side quit your little kid bickiering.
We need to rid Washington of the CAREER Polititions. They do NOT care about the public they only care about how much they can STEAL from us Taxpayers.
WOW found out the Washington DC took over the #1 Spot for the highest earners from Silicon Valley. Yet Silicon Valley had a product they made that makes our oives easier & better. UNLIKE those in Washington DC that get there by EXTRACTING IT FROM THE REST OF US. Plus they get there BRIBES from the LOBBYIST, like GE they spend over $100,000 per DAY lobbying those representatives that are supposed to be working for the AMERICAN people NOT those CORPS. that buy there VOTES. Why did GE spend over 36 million dollars last year on lobbying? It saved them BILLIONS in taxes. TIME FOR THEM TO PAY THERE FAIR SHARE also. I paid more federal taxes last year than the MULTI-BILLION dollar co. GE did, that need to be changed, Time to closee the LOOPHOLES they use and LIMIT the deductions they get to claim. Yet Obama is more worried about raising the rate on the high earners instead of hitting them where it will hurt them by closing those loopholes.
yup and wall street is at record profits again...your point is moot...
Obama is ONE of the RICH corporate dudes... if you think he is not you are blind. Blinded by partisan rhetoric.
The only thing Obama is talking to the people is OTHER PEOPLES MONEY.
This is definitely a violation of privacy, and selling out of his supporters. Citizens united should be struck down and neither side should be able to collect, store, use or sell information like this. This is a disgrace. We need campaign reform now. Get big business out of politics.
And food stamps are supposed to pay for FOOD!!! Not lottery tickets, junk food, cigarettes and beer...you know, the necessities of daily living for the lazy!
BTW, those cell phones are more than likely used to complete drug deals! You know, most drug dealers dont claim their income, therefore, they qualify for food stamps!! Just like the illegal aliens that work under the table and collect welfare!! They are walking around with WADS of money!! haha..jokes on YOU!!
Let the paranoid idiotry begin!!
I'm on that list and if it can be used to keep free-thinking Democrats in office until the Party of NO is defeated and we start heading in a healthy direction, they can use my data any way they want!
How do I make sure I'm on that list? I probably am, but nothing is certain. But, FYI, I wound up on a Governor Walker list after writing a disapproving note to him. His office probably didn't have a clue about thinly veiled sarcasm so now I get his self-laudatory newsletters. So sad!!
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Yeah it is, let us know when that actually happens ok.
Liberals spend years bitching about GWB's lack of transparency and now that we have an administration that is FAR WORSE we don't hear a peep from them. Frankly I'm amazed that this President will share any information with anyone. Remember how we were all going to get the healthcare debate on C-Span so we could all listen in??? Instead they used AOL, private servers exempt from the Freedom of Information Act. Where is the outcry libs???
"Obama supporters like this woman who showed up to cheer at a campaign event in Melbourne, Fla., on Sept. 9, may not realize how much personal data the organization collected, or what it's doing with it now.-
Christ, he can't even be open and honest with the people who support him. Not that they care of course.
wje37fcsm
More probably they just said "Hey, if this guy can send pointless annoying e-mails he can get them too." Turn around is fair play no?
next time you wont be so eager to give all your info to Obama!!
Enjoy your dinner......RING RING, Obama campaign calling
Dan...
Apparently you have no clue on the differences between a fellow like carl rove are and a sitting POTUS. Shame on your ignorance.
Neither should be collecting or using private info in this way.
Ronald Hussein Reagan, Strange Twist, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
republicans are obstructionist '' nothing else '' banned, rereg of comment spammer weareinbettershape.
I'm APPALLED!!!! UNWARRANTEDLY take Somebody's "Contacts" list just because it exists??? Why not just have the on the ground "Door Knockers" not bother to knock and just come right in and take my Address Book? What kind of thinking is that? All my Friends, Associates and Contacts are just like Me, think like Me, act like Me and do the same as I do and say??? Is my Contacts List NOT OF MY FOURTH AMENDMENT PROTECTED "PAPERS AND EFFECTS"???
OPT OUT??? After the DIRTY DEED IS DONE????? AFTER "THE AFFECT"???? AFTER "THE VIOLATION"????
Opt out of what? Support for the Immigration ISSUE but not for the Gun Safety ISSUE???? NO! HAVE TO OPT FOR "ALL OR NOTHING."
Two wrongs don't make a right. REPUBLICANS ARE CORRUPT and DEMOCRATS ARE COMTAMINATED!!!
Marcus D, You asked why not force Democrats in the House to vote with Obama. Wrong party, Democrats believe in an archaic form of government. Voting your conscience, something Republicans haven't done in over a decade.
John Bryantvia Facebook
LOL! So when you guys aren't bitching about the Tea Party you're pretending they never existed? You may not agree with them but you can NOT say they don't vote their conscious. On the other hand, whenever a dem steps out of (the Presidents) line, they are issuing a "clarification" within hours.
Antistupidity
Once you've willingly given it up it is no longer private. The only issue is the ethics of using info people have given you for purposes they were not aware of. In that regard I'm sure we can all agree that the people have the right to expect more from their President, regardless of his party. After all, Karl Rove has never sworn an oath to the United States.
Backcountry
If they willingly gave up information that is one thing, if people contacted the campaign through facebook and didn't set their privacy settings properly that is their fault although I would venture a guess that many people don't know how to set up their privacy settings properly and just go with default settings.
Downloading someones cellphone numbers and address book without permission should be illegal along with the use of tracking cookies. When I spoke to my mother today and told her about this she had no clue what cookies are, the average user is very vulnerable to these type abuses and I consider this to be unethical, it is right up there with being a peeping tom. There have been outcry's about company's using tracking cookies, this is no different.
Don't defend Karl Rove, he was an integral part of the Bush administration, just as Katie Hogan and Jim Messina were integral to Obama's re election. Neither side should be allowed to do this, both are equally dirty and unethical when using ill begotten personal information.
Yep, since Mr. Obama cannot get anything done out of the Oval Office, he will send his "TROOPERS" out to do the dirty work for him.
Maybe Mr. Obama can get his campaign donors to provide money for "TROOPERS" uniforms.....green pants, green shirts with a red bandanna.
Maybe Brownshirts is the look you're looking for. 1933 Germany. Kristalnacht. Busting heads and burning books for the Furher.
Yes, it could EASILY happen here. OFA? How about Waffen SS. Coming to a bookstore, or city block or subdivision, near you...
Our 2 party system is broken--Mystery Rhee, #1.53 - "Two wrongs don't make a right. REPUBLICANS ARE CORRUPT and DEMOCRATS ARE CONTAMINATED."--I agree with that statement! And it is one reason I voted for a third party last November. There are big corporations that donate to both parties at once so that no matter who wins, they have a foot in.
When it comes to my personal info--well, I realized a long time ago that my name, email, physical address was being sold and resold and resold ad infinitum ad nauseum. Just for fun, I collect all the 'ads' I get in the snail mail where my last name was misspelled, just to see the 'trail' of different buyers of my info. It started with just one..........
Can't wait for one of these folks to come a knockin on my door. I really look forward to discussing the 2nd Amendment and the 3rd Amendment with them. >;-)
If people don't want their personal info out there, that horse is out of the barn. Corporations already know everything about us, and I just hope that info goes to Hillary in this case. This is already happening on a global scale anyway. Now some on the right are just pissed he can pass this on to Hillary or the next candidate up the pike.
Anyone notice the recent increase in violent mob attacks? Text your friends, meet up some where and thump the livin daylights out of other people. Yes free Obamaphones are great for organizing too.
Backcountry164 - michelle bachman hears God. I don't know how to explain her condition except that she may have mental issues. The tea party - if the Republicans could get rid of them, they would. Trust me - that wacko fringe group does more harm than good, especially come election time when both presidential candidates start trying to appeal to the centrists and independents.
I dislike the idea that my information is so easily taken from me IF I didn't knowingly authorize the transfer of said information. I find it hypocritical that OFA is doing the same thing that Rove's organization did - but I get it because I'm someone who believes in realpolitik. What I'd really like is for people to use their voice and votes to scare the crap out of politicians - remember the SOPA backlash. (It was amazing how representatives who originally were for the bill suddenly did an about face when they realized they would be facing a public backlash the likes of which they had never seen.) If we could just unite - we could drive those special interests and corporate lobbying agencies out of washington. After all - companies don't vote and it's by our votes that politicians keep their jobs. I think we need to "remind" the politicians that they are OUR representatives (aka our bitches).
Anew advocacy group??? This nothing more than "bait and switch." This is obama's reelection campaign that now calls itself Organizing for America and shields itself from campaign laws through tax exempt charitable organization. There sole purpose is to extend the agendas of obama ... conferring with and taking orders from obama, while out of reach from the public.
Work to overturn Citizens United if you think this is unacceptable. We should not be expected to play on an unlevel playing field. Even the Republicans have admitted the effectiveness of this organization. Why shouldn't we use it. Again, overturn Citizens United and get money out of politics!
Another similar kind of ACORN falling from the tree.
you will all assimilate.
that is all.
Didn't Nazi Germany have a similar group called the SA?The Sturmabteilung(brown shirts)
ACORN? Really wolfhound, that is all you got? I suggest you quit watching Fox Propaganda. ACORN was found to have done nothing wrong. They flagged any questionable voter registrations when they truned in the registration from their drives. I can see how though wanting more people to vote hurts the Tea Publicans. Shoot they want to ignore the will of the majority and find ways to steal elections.
The Obama campaign has been tech-savvy...and knows how to communicate with people through new forms of media.
In a democracy, communicating messages is so important, and the Obama Campaign has aced in this field. The GOP can learn a thing or two here.
Wolfhound, the "Brown Shirts" Nazi Party was a Labor Union. They Bullied, beat up and shot people, of course that is not to different than being brow beaten by people with agandas. Remember this they don't care about your religion or party affiliation they just want your support or money. They are not a union just a pest.
hey frank!!! if i were a member of the Tea party i would tell you.However,telling you anything would be a waste of time as you appear to be correctly indoctrinated by the liberal media.they wouldn't put anything on the internet that wasn't true now,would they.I have alot better for you but i doubt you would be willing to come to Afghanistan to get it.
The brown shirts actually wanted to take control of the Army as well.Hitler was forced to make a choice.The night of the long knives.The rest is history and hopefully not repeated in America.
So if I vote for Obama i get free stuff?
But who gets the bill when it comes due?
I agree with the comparisons to Hitler. Obama is despicable. He will stop at NOTHING to push his liberal agenda. A dangerous person. Unfortunately, our electorate have become SO dumbed down, this is what we all must live with.
Well at least the truth behind the need to hand out Obama phones is coming into focus. People need a means of getting those Obama text messages. This term maybe it will be free internet, as the Democrats need to get everyone connected to the Obama agenda one way or the other. Hey, so long as there is a dollar to borrow, or more taxes to raise, we can afford it.
"Keep talking, Governor."
THe time for overheated rhetoric has arrrived!!!!! No slur is too nasty ... no lie too outrageous...... no claim too bizarrre. No nazi paralllwel too far-fetched. It's open season for Obama HAte!!!!!! WIth the head of the NRA as our head we willl march in lockstep into oblivion .... indeopendently, of course.
Hey rockyroad,
who said you was going to get free stuff if u voted for pres obama. Do you have a video clip showing the president said this.
Tick, tock, I'm waiting nut job..
GOP learn? They go to a retreat to figure out what they did wrong and learn from it and come back saying the same thing, but try to change how the electoral votes get divvied out. They figure if you can't win fairly then cheat.
From the mouth of Exhibit A of the dumbed down electorate? Be grateful for this database, as you likely aren't on it!
No one will be knocking on your door to ask for your support.
Go back to sleep.
I've seen nothing but positive coming out of Washington lately, the government of by and for the people is begging to work for the people and not just the very rich and the corporations. I am glad that Obama is "taking it to the people" where it belongs.
Trust me when I tell you that the GOP will learn nothing other than the OFA is many times larger than they ever believed it to be. They aren't capable of learning as they do not read enough of a paragraph to actually know what the paragraph said let alone meant.
I willingly gave my info to Mr. Messina several years ago. It is good to see he is using it for the very purposes I willingly submitted it to him for. I've also made it a point to keep the info updated so good for him for helping to create a winning strategy that turned the conservative corporate world upside down.
This is the next logical step to organize support for the President's agenda.
And why not? Obama won re-election. We have seen ample demonstration of the incompetency of Congress. 'We the people' will not sit by this time and let our country be taken over by the obstructionist Tea Baggers.
The train of democracy has left the station, and they missed the train. All aboard for the future!
FORWARD!
This is bad reporting, not news. Too bad they don't have news to use. But they do like stirring up the reactionary idiots. The party of stupid just won't go away.
Remember in 2014 how the Democrats turned a Republican disaster around.
The privacy concerns of this database will be quickly trumped (how appropriate to use that phrase) by the numerous diatribes of extremist talk radio hosts and False News pundits; thereby encouraging more people to willingly join the database because anything that sets the hair on fire of rwnj's is going to be ok with them. Even though there are people in the GOP who recognize this, they can't help themselves and will go on endlessly about this ... once again, proving that counter to Jindal's recent statement, they still are the party of stupid.
@pigotry- Typical blind leading the blind, libbie twisting & turning reality to support a warped agenda.
Face it- your party of spend spend spend has sold out millions, biting the hands that fed it. They don't care about you! You're just a tool to be used and discarded once you're no longer needed. It's the ultimate dupe- the smoke & mirrors show continues for 'four! more! years!' of failed policies.
There's a difference between 'communicating messages' and selling out supporters for purposes beyond the election. Wonder what they're really going to do with all that information... hmmm... You think it's only for your own good because you blindly follow and believe everything you're being told. You assume too much, and you know what happens when you 'ass-u-me'.
Cry baby Rep/tea party. Man you don't like it when we play by the same rules you play by. The party of Hitler in America is the RNC, NRA, and all the Koch, and friends groups. We real American's have hit critical Mass. We will no longer put up with big business running this country. For the Billions you put into the RNC to buy the last election, you lost big time. Your gerrymandering will be stopped in its tracts too. This reminds me of the move Brave heart. When the working people were there to fight for the Nobles. They give up there life's for the rich to get richer. That is what the working people that vote Rep. Are doing, there is nothing in it for you. But you might get to clean up the table scraps out of the trash can. People like the Koch's use under educated people to do there bidding for them. All the time they are polluting your air, water & Land. They take timber with out paying for it. They are cheating the American People out of tax money, while making big profits.
A good move by the President might not be seen as good later when his Presidency has run its course. President Obama enjoys a very popular following even if his policies aren't as popular. It might come back to haunt him or the next Democratic candidate for president when they realize they are not as popular. It would not surprise me to see a Democrat elected in 2016, riding the President's popularity, then losing in 2020. Looks strikingly familiar to Reagan's Presidency, where Bush I won the Presidency in 1988 only to lose it in 1992.
History is a funny things.
The only free stuff I ever was promised by OFA was the right to freedom of choices and their support in helping to make sure the conservative base did not have the opportunity to take those choices away and helping the other community sectors such as the GLBT and womens right advocates in their quests to gain their rightful freedoms and to keep those they have already achieved through decades of suppressions. All this data base is going to show is that I completely supported these groups as well as many other sectors in their constant battle to be able to enjoy what I enjoy every day.
Wonder if they are also sharing the personal information of those that oppose him?
Expect the the jack-boots at your doors anytime now.....
No Steve, the opposition is not part of the databse. Read the article.
Paranoid losers cannot come out of their echo chambers long enough to see reality much less understand it! This is like the segregationists back in the 60's who tried to sell what their Wizards were saying behind their closed-society curtains. They were fearful of growth and progress and held on to their wrong-headed beliefs as if those beliefs were a religion, even trying to justify them via their Bibles. They demonized and called anything different from them "brown shirts" while acting like brown shirts themselves. Funny how things never change when it comes to paranoid nuts. They are what they accuse everyoine else of being and they cannot see that it settles in their faces, their minds, and their hearts like a cancer. Some people are simply addicted to suffering; they rather be Far Right than free.
Is this really OK with you Obama ass kissers? They downloaded your address book if you contacted them by mobile app? They know your spending habits because they checked out your "cookies"? If you contacted them through Facebook they now know all your "friends" and "likes"?
Are you really OK with this type of thing?
And you screamed at Bush for warrantless wiretaps? The same program that Obama just extended again? This country is fast filling up with pathetic fools.
AnIndividual - You do realize that the segregationists of the 60's were democrats don't you? And they DID NOT join the republican party. Did Robert Byrd jump over? Did Al Gore sr. jump over? NO! Maybe Thurgood Marshall did but if you have more names please enlighten us.
Really it has been shrinking as more people are becoming informed and the conservative support groups have been shrinking.
Any smart phone user uploads all that info to each and every application group they willing download into their phones. But then again, you already knew that anyways if you ever read the terms before downloading or registering a smart phone.
It's just a database of Obama's Useful Idiots.
I don't like this on several grounds. Most important, I object to privacy violations. And, by the way, this proves the sinister and treacherous aspect of facebook, nothing more than a Big Brother who gets you to cough up all your personal data and that of your so-called friends & family for govt use! No wonder Obama was so friendly with Mark Zuckerberg. You've been Profiled! In addition, people should have been asked whether they approved of their personal information being shared among just anybody.
Another--I object to the all white leadership, mainly white men. It looks like the White Citizen's Council. Doesn't Obama know any black people? Why are black people so excluded from leadership positions?
The GOP doesn't have a database of their 'useful idiots' because their idiots haven't proven very useful. ;)
Johnho - again - not only is Barry "taking it to the poeple" - he's putting it in the people and really giving it to the people.
If you think higher taxes without cutting spending - and using the power of the office to cover-up criminal incompetencey, inaction with two rogue nations threating the world with nuclear war is "nothing but positive" than you need to do some more thinking.
Mike
I guess you're saying you're OK with the government collecting all that data on you? Do you really feel that it is any of their business? Were you OK with the Bush wiretapping? Or were you one of the progressive/liberals screaming about invasion of privacy? And that data was used to keep Americans safe not voting properly.
Like I said, we are becoming a country of pathetic fools.
JH - Spot on except for one point. Not everyone is a fool, but it would appear that there may now be a majority of voters that place their own need for a caretaker above and beyond any other concern. Free stuff, food stamps, welfare state - these are now what drives the voters in this country - and while it's not everyone, there are certainly enough of them thinking that "socialism is good - just as long as I don't have to work to support it."
JH-479998
Mike
And you think for one second it is any differant than having inet services collecting and selling the very same information to the corporate world that pays them for the same data? I've realized and known the full extent of this information gathering and sharing ever since 1992.
Is it the same as getting into my private phone data and eaves dropping on my personal phone calls? Absolutely not. The Bush era did not create wiretapping. It was perfected long before they took over and they simply took it to back room voting and then to the courts after 911 to make it legal for them to do so without warrants as well as legal for all services they use to provide them with their invasions.
And there are so few of them as opposed to the massive numbers of low-information voters the Dems can access. That must be nice to have so many idiots to use and manipulate to achieve your goals!
Johntho
I'm just amazed by this sort of crap. This President hasn't taken jack @!$%# "to the people". Least transparent President in history. Broken ALL of his "transparency" promises and prosecuted every whistle-blower he could get his hands on. "Taking it to the people", ROTFLMAO!!
Twisted...it worked for Adolph Hitler (well, to a point...)
Hey Don't be a victim, Tell me, who's trying to dumb down the electorate? The party that expanded Pell Grants and made student loans more accessible? Or the party that voted to raise the tuition at private and state universities. Obama phones-BAD.....Reagan phones-GOOD. Ronnie started the free phone program. Yes, there is fraud in the welfare system, and it needs to be cleaned up, where is the rage about the fraud in the banking system, wall street, insurance, pharmaceuticals, the list goes on and on.
@JH: if it truly bothers you, the answer to your question is an emphatic yes; please see post 2.22
BlowbamaDouche banned, rereg of WiteSoxFan.
Actually, they were and are still Lennin's useful idiots. Of course everyone has forgotten history's most valuable lesson where despots are concerned, in that today's useful idiot is tomorrow's useless eater.
@ Wolfhound:
While you're on the subject of the Nazi Brown Shirts, why not use this opportunity to also correct a number of longstanding leftist falsehoods, like the Nazi "persecution" of homosexuals? For example, the #1 Brown Shirt was himself a homosexual, as were many of his "troops". He was also Hitler's closest friend until he began to have too much ambition and wanted to take control of the army.
According to William Shirer in "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," Ernst Roehm, the captain of the S.A. brownshirts, was the only person that Hitler ever addressed in writing using the German "du", a personal-familiar form of the word "you." Shirer calls Hitler and Roehm "the two friends, who more than any others were responsible for the launching of the Third Reich, for its terror and its degradation."
Roehm was a notorious homosexual, a fact that could not possibly have been unknown to his "best friend," Adolph Hitler. So were many of Roehm's brownshirt troops, whose role was to bully and intimidate people into voting as they were told to. The expanding ambition of the brownshirts which led to a plotted putsch and thus to the night of the long knives also explains why the Nazis eventually sent many homosexuals to concentration camps: it wasn't simply because they were "gay," but because they were plotting to double-cross the Nazis, who were plotting to overthrow the German republic. But you won't hear the truth about all of this from the leftist press, for whom it is necessary always to play up the fictional role of the "innocent homosexual victim" whenever talking about the homosexual agenda and to bury as far as possible its real and traditional role as a subversive force bent on the destruction of any stable society, now and in every previous age in which it ever raised its ugly head. This traditional role as a subversive element is likely why Hitler employed them to begin with, and then also why he got rid of them after they had served their purpose.
The patsies on the left could learn something about self-preservation by taking note of this particular repeating pattern among despots and revolutionaries down through history: the transformation that always occurs from "needed useful idiot" to "garbage heap fill-dirt" once the bitter noises of the ignorant agitators have served their destructive purposes.
They all think they're going to be rewarded for advancing the Great Leader's agenda by being stupid and belligerent. And it always comes as a big surprise to them when the dictator they helped to create finally tires of them and dumps them in the trash. But then, they always were stupid. That's why the dictator used them as tools in the first place.
That's not strange, them's the facts, all over the world.
The safest place to be, if you are a closeted Homosexual - is to be 110% anti-homosexual. even better if you are in charge of rooting them out.
If you know what you think you know and are parading it around as somehow, proof of what whatever? then you also know that many upstanding, "never in a Million years" conservatives have been exposed for what they are or what they were - if they are already dead.
Its also true that some people who are mannish or effete, who are "well-known" queer folk, aren't! The mannerisms, we all know - gay people use, are not the 100% indicators you might think. Just lately, manly men - Professional sports figures are less afraid to acknowledge their feelings - desire to play on other teams.... sporadically, occasionally or full-time.
besides - who didn't know that all SS and skin-heads are gay? That's not a surprise.
Congress better push back. This country will be/is in one hell of a mess come the next election, and there won't be a democRat voted in.
Boy, talk about wishful thinking????
At this rate there will be no need for a presidental election in 2016.To put it simply,voting won't be allowed anymore.
Yeah Wofhound after the Republicans twist the electoral college to impose the will of their fastly shrinking minority.
With crap like this going on i wonder how many lives it will take to get this country back.
Must have gotten Frank's dander up..What a meathead.
Frank have you seen the electoral map? A heck of a lot more area is red than blue. What happen to equal representation. The electoral college certainly tried but as you can see it isn't working so well. The masses live in larger cities and have different needs due to that. But, if you, as a democrat, really want to help everyone then don't you see the need to let the districts in the states determine the president as opposed to just the larger, more populated? Do you really want this country to become a country only for the city people, especially when the "city" people are simply getting more and more needy at the expense of those who are actually willing to work for a living. Yes, some people who are participating in the entitlement programs truly would prefer to be working and doing something for themselves. But the majority have no pride and are simply doing what is easiest--because that is the nation we are becoming. Don't think that because Republicans want to get away from entitlements that they don't care about helping others. Because you would be flat out wrong, manipulated by the biased news you choose to hear or otherwise fooling only yourself. But, pretty soon you may be finding the democratic run states such as New York, California etc left with only the needy simply because they never chose to do what is best for everyone in their state.
Actually, this group being formed for Obama should focus on ads encouraging people to get off of their butts and get any kind of job(s) they can. Then prepare for their future and live within their means. Why doesn't the administration check out the reasons why poor performing school districts are so bad. I can tell you in ours where Republican retiree's have given a lot of their time and money to help--we've barely made a dent because they school board is elected and they put in their "own" people and pay them well and the students get nothing from it all. IF the locals don't care why should we?
Paranoid losers cannot come out of their echo chambers long enough to see reality much less understand it! This is like the segregationists back in the 60's who tried to sell what their Wizards were saying behind their closed-society curtains. They were fearful of growth and progress and held on to their wrong-headed beliefs as if those beliefs were a religion, even trying to justify them via their Bibles. They demonized and called anything different from them "brown shirts" while acting like brown shirts themselves. Funny how things never change when it comes to paranoid nuts. They are what they accuse everyoine else of being and they cannot see that it settles in their faces, their minds, and their hearts like a cancer. Some people are simply addicted to suffering; they rather be Far Right than free.
Push back? Congress is a stone wall. Walls don't push, they obstruct.
@HAW: Oh, are we voting by land mass now? Most of the map of the country is red, but most of the VOTERS are blue. Have you ever heard of "one man, one vote"?
HAW: "Frank have you seen the electoral map? A heck of a lot more area is red than blue."
Too bad your land area can't vote. It's the people stupid.
I'm in this database and it doesn't bother me a bit. It's called participatory democracy. We receive updates on pending legislation and which representatives are supporting our position. We learn how to contact those representatives and we learn how to communicate our wants and needs to our representatives. Everyone should be doing this. If you want something from Congress, you have to tell Congress. For too long, the only people they have heard from are the lobbyists and influence peddlers. It's way past time they heard from the people and were reminded who it is they are supposed to represent. For those who prefer to let the corporations call the shots, just stay silent and ignorant. Enjoy the corporate dictatorship. As for me, I prefer democracy.
I'm in this database and it doesn't bother me a bit. It's called participatory democracy. We receive updates on pending legislation and which representatives are supporting our position. We learn how to contact those representatives and we learn how to communicate our wants and needs to our representatives. Everyone should be doing this. If you want something from Congress, you have to tell Congress. For too long, the only people they have heard from are the lobbyists and influence peddlers. It's way past time they heard from the people and were reminded who it is they are supposed to represent. For those who prefer to let the corporations call the shots, just stay silent and ignorant. Enjoy the corporate dictatorship. As for me, I prefer democracy.
Haw Haw Haw......That's what the House takes care of. The red states are rural, meaning more thinly populated. You get your representation in congress, and to win the Presidency you have to modify your policy choices so you get support in urban (more densely populated) states. The same political procedure has worked in this country for over two hundred years. You should consider yourselves lucky you still control the House.
I agree totally with your statements. I am not in the database, and don't care to be, but this is indeed a free country (for now), and everyone is entitled to be involved in theses decisions. It is truly what democracy is about, and should be about. However, I see SOOO many post about saying how the Republicans are being bought out by corporations, etc. Now everyone, let's please not be so niave to believe that this is the only people that takes the "bribes". Really, let's all agree that anyone's vote can be bought, everyone has a price. Our government is so corrupt, on either side of the house, I believe it is too far gone. How do you change something that is controlled by the people that are making the laws, that are benefitting from those very laws. No checks and balances anymore, plain and simple. Greed runs throughout... I'm an American, I think most people forget that sometimes. If you read a lot of these posts, we have Dems vs Reps.... last I checked we are all Americans, getting ripped off by both sides. If people don't wake up to that fact, "the people" will never be heard. Believe me, there is just as many "unlimited donations" going to this group as any where else. Corporations are lining the pockets of anyone that will listen "vote" to/for them. I bet if you went through the financials of ALL elected officials, you would soon know that they all are in it for the money at some point or time in their "career". Kind of ironic saying "career" when it should be public servant....
Good day to all, try to be civil
Groucho Marx was a jovial fellow, you sir are not. The president's agenda includes helping those "people who are starving" in America as well as around the world. Lighten up a little. Everyone knew the Obama for America (OFA) was being converted to Organizing for Action (also OFA). The people in that database are supporters of the President and therefore mostly welcome the inclusion it affords them in future policy discussions.
Yes, and we are helping those people around the world with money we are having to borrow from China. I weep for what this country is becoming. Since when is it a crime in this country to have an opinion other than that of our president? I thought this country stood for democracy? Obama promised transparency and to work with both sides of the aisle. He has done more to divide this country than any other president in recent history. All we do not is call each other names and vilify each other. Just think how much faster Hitler could have murdered his victims if he had social media to rely on. We are being led like sheep to the slaughter and all we can do is call each other names. People need to take their blinders off.
you are correct in a way.The Nazis did the same thing and it worked for them too.
Yes Wolfhound the Nazis broke up labor unions, opposed unions, worshipped symbols of their country, raised their state to godgood, burnt books that were filled with science and alternate opinions, used propaganda and xenophobia to make their people afraid so they would give more policing powers to the government. Even George Bush's grandfather was in on it, making money on wall street to build Hitler's war machine. Yep sounds like a complete right wing movement to me, kind of akin to the Tea Party. Shoot the Nazis will make Republicans look like saints if the Republicans move any further to the right.
Perhaps you should write the Republican governors and legislators who want to cheat the popular vote by gerrymandering districts and changing the assignment of electoral votes to counties rather than states as as a whole in order guarantee republican wins even if the popular vote says different? That's certainly not democracy in action...is it?
It isn't Obama who has done the dividing...it's the tea party and extreme right wing in general who rebuked every effort by Obama to work together. Obama has bent over backwards to be inclusive, while the Party of No even voted down their own legislation just to try to hurt Obama. Conservatives don't care about democracy of the welfare of the people, they care about winning and holding power at any expense, period.
The kitchen is hot and there's the door.
Slaughter? What slaughter? Could you be specific?
I know at least one person who needs to....Carl-etta.
Culheath "...It isn't Obama who has done the dividing...it's the tea party and extreme right wing in general who rebuked every effort by Obama to work together. Obama has bent over backwards to be inclusive,..."
It was obama who said "..the Republicans can come along for the ride, they just have to sit in the back of the bus"
That does not sound like a man making an effort to work together or be inclusive.
All the obama voters did not care that their personal information gets sold and used without their consent????, Obama voters are low information voters
culheath,
You should follow the old saying, "It is better to say nothing at all and be thought of as stupid, than to talk and prove it".
Who says it's a crime? You posted your opinion here... now you're afraid of being arrested?
Quit acting like a sore loser and form your own group for action. Or don't. It's a free country.
Whining is not a very useful strategy, as most of us learned around age 6.
culhealth... Ignore the rant from the right.. They have nothing and they know it... So they come here and just like monkeys fling p00p...
This is really a volunteered informational database gathered during the election. Its is, unfortunately, a clever tactic to obtain personal information that most people would NOT ordinarily submit. I saw a form at my poling center and you can also find it online. The TRUST that people have placed on this government is surreal. I am astonished at the ignorance of most Obama voters and their blind trust in a government that has essentially done a clever job of identity theft. I doubt that there are any nefarious actions perpetrated by the OFA, but having worked for the government for over 17 years I can assure that this information is FAR from secure and will be shared at will for purposes unknown and most assuredly unwanted by those who VOLUNTEERED their personal information.
Carletta. You need to get your head out of your fox news a$$. Right after the President was sworn in his first time. The Rep's all went into a room and signed an oath to do nothing at all that might help the president. They were going to make sure the American people suffer and suffer mightily for electing our first black president. We all know it. Well we have suffered mightily, but we will make the Rep's suffer more, We took back many seats in the congress and will over take the congress in 2014. And we will make sure the Rep's never get back in power again. Hell everything you decried was what little Bush did to this country. You piss and moan about us helping other country's or the poor here in our country. Where is your outrage about what we waist on un-needed military spending? The Army has said we don't need anymore Tanks, we have 10 thousand of them rotting away in fields. But congress stepped in to protect big business. The waist alone in this country could balance the budget this year alone. I do agree we should stop giving money to country's like Pakistan. I think we don't need to keep giving money to many country's we give to. Take care of our people first.
Carletta and Culheath - Our form of government is not a Democracy!!
Obama is helping the poor. There is a disproportionate number of smokers among the poor. Obamacare is going to tack a 50% increase onto their premiums and their gov't. subsidies are not allowed to be used to pay this increase.
This has been tried before. Will the citizens of the US decide to submit to the will of motivated partisans? Taking over the streets is nothing. It will be interesting to see how this scheme goes.
This has been tried before. Will the citizens of the US decide to submit to the will of motivated partisans? Taking over the streets is nothing new. It will be interesting to see how this scheme goes.
Culheath and Ninja, you think it is ok for you and those who only think like you to fling poop. Yet you ignore the gutter campaign that Obama waged and the literal divisive crap that has een spewed from the Dems since Obama became Prez. You two just prove how ignorant Obama supporters truly are.
halmay
Very well stated Sir.
halmay - I love blind dems like you. Obooma is using YOUR info to back an agenda of socialism and insanity. He has NO desire to HELP anyone but himself you moron. He is proving day in and day out the incompetence he employs as well as his desire to bankrupt our nation. You sir, are a FOOL!
...and he wants to take our guns away?
kaybeetoys:
Free Country? we are at the highest levels of government control since 1775... it's people like you and all partisan puppets passing more and more legislation, both sides, dems and reps have lost sight of freedom, read your history books!
TheMan:
Still living in 1775?
Well, as I recall, when I signed up on the White House email list, I was asked if I wanted to be on the list to receive other information from the President's support groups, etc., and could they share my name and information. I checked yes. I knew that I could opt out if I wanted.
So, what is the big deal?
Kaybeetoys:
Nice retort, when you grow up and want to learn what freedom is visit GOOOH.com
It time for a civil up raising in this country
Why did Obama win?
Obama increased the number of people dependent on the government for assistance (the number of people getting food stamps, free health care and/or cash aid increased from about 30 million in 2008 to about 47 million in 2012). That's an increase of about 17 million getting 'free' assistance from the government. The cost to taxpayers of welfare for food, cash aid and Medicaid is about $680 Billion per year (2012 estimate) – That's about 62% of the total Deficit for 2012.
Obama's campaign then implied that “If Romney is elected, he will take away your food stamps”.
Obama won this group by almost 13 million votes, while Romney won the group that pays the income taxes to fund the welfare by about 8 million votes – Net win for Obama = about 5 million votes.
Simple, but effective.
Statistics - According to N Y Times Exit Polls from the election, there were an estimated 31.8 Million voters in the income group averaging under $30,000 per year (Non-Senior, Welfare eligible), and 22.3 Million of them voted for Obama, vs only 9.4 Million for Romney – that's a net gain for Obama of 12.9 million votes, and Obama won overall by less than 5 million votes.
That's 'Chicago-Style' politics in action - using taxpayer funds to finance their reelection.
I find it interesting (and disturbing) to see so many innocuous posts collapsed "by the community" when there is NOTHING wrong with them except they don't think what this administration did was a good thing. Isn't this the kind of censorship that liberals are always saying they are against?! Things are to the point now where we can't even have an open exchange of ideas, and that is a very bad thing.
Well, here they come. You trusted David Axelrod and his army of "Pure Spin Doctors" and you're suprised that your stuff is all over the Internet?
So, it wasn't enough to win re-election. Now they have to "Organize for Action" along with the SEIU and Organized Labor to out-maneuver or eliminate ANY opposition, now armed with your private information. Haven't we seen something like this before? Germany in 1933, when the Brownshirts started busting heads, busting windows and burning books for the Supreme Chancellor?
When will they come knocking on YOUR door? Will it be 3 am?
In case your brain malfunctioned tealibanian, when I made donations, as did the many millions of other supporters of OFA, it was out of our pockets, not yours or tax money. That is unlike your parties very few supporters that believe a victory is something you simply deserve as a welfare option as you are to damn stingy and self serving to even spend a dime on your own party. If it weren't for your corporate gods constributing the almost billion dollars to the Robme campaign, he'd have had little to no campaign funds to lie to the american people with.
Um, Mike, you forgot to call him a HATER which is usually a label applied to anyone YOU hate. FYI, Mike, T.E.A. Party is an acronym, TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY. So the carve-outs for all the disparate out-groups, from Medicaid to "free" tax-payer funded contraceptives and abortion pills, forcibly supplied by employers from Hobby Lobby to Catholic Charities, free Iphones, and all entitlements which comprise TWO THIRDS of our government discretionary spending are NOT HANDOUTS to BRIBE people to vote for Democrats?? What planet are you from? I'm from EARTH.
As Irish Playwright, Fabian Socialist and co-founder of the London School of Economics, George Bernard Shaw strategized, "The government that robs Peter to pay Paul can count on the support of Paul..." This IS the strategy that won, this with OUR TAX DOLLARS and money borrowed from the Chinese Communist Government.
It's been said that the country will collapse when those who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living. Well, here we go...
Roy Wilson: Good job regurgitating garbage that was so foul even Romney walked away from it. Here's a RIght WIng arithmetic question for you:
Q.) When is 47 per cent more than half?
A.) In the 2012 Presidential election.
ROY WILSON: I was saying that all the time during the campaign and raised it every time Obama threw out one of his government bene's. No one was listening and I got little support. I think people are more interested in their ipods than in the future of this country. Now people are starting to see what their self-indulgence got them and listen to them bitch.
Oh my - aren't we just filled with fear today. Rush and Drudge haven't even had much chance to fan the flames yet today. I guess Faux news was up bright and early today while conservatives were catching their worms.
Salvia...
The only help the poor will get with obamacare is to be told to go to the back of the bus and take medicaid. Based on articles in sundays des moines register, the poor will not qualify for obamacare and his exchanges, they will still be to poor to afford the insurance premiums.
@american-2051576- I believe the poor need to convince their governors to expand the medicaid option.
Funny thing about politicians, agreeing to "share your information" somehow morphed into leasing it and using it to raise more money on the backs of the unknowing pawns. Truth is, from someone who once did a bit of lobbying, your opinion is only as respected as the size of your PAC check. Keep on writing all you want to Congress, but you simply just don't count to either party except to carry the water as voters. Without term limits, both parties win because nothing changes except the size of their "families" bank account. Politics in DC is very much a Yale, Harvard, Georgetown family business on both sides of the aisle. Check it out, Yale leads the pack on both sides of the aisle.
RIght WIngos act as if there's something wrong with someone who neeeds Health Care voting for someone who willl make sure he or she gets it. I gues that makes sense s for a party that counts on their base to vote against their own interests (As in the 97, 98 per cent who don't fall above the magic income threshold where they might actuallly have to pay their fair share.
1 million people showed up at obama's inauguration and only 17 missed work.
What, you were number 17??? Get a job, taker!!!!
Um, VLGil? It was a holiday. ("Martin Luther King Day"? Does that ring any bells?)
What does the D stand for? Dufus?
A holiday for government workers, students and bankers. The rest worked.
And those 7 were Union employees who were compensated for playing hooky from work.
And the other 8 million data based supporters alone were working in their minimum wage, no benefits, no insurance, very few worker protected, private contractor jobs that do not include paid holidays so they were not able to attend the inauguration. It is how the GOP keep the democrat/independents out of the worker's rights support system.
Um, Vagisil, Pure Bulls&it posts won't further your cause any. Besides that, it was on a holiday. DUH.....Talk about low information voters. Oh, that's right, it wasn't a real holiday. It was a BLACK holiday, so it didn't mean anything to real patriotic Americans, just to the welfare queens. Isn't that right?
Ha! Obama supporters are getting exactly what they deserve. He and his dictatorship style of leadership is what they wanted, so suck it up!
Including the populace is being a dictator? Wow, where are you from???
Amazing. This from the poeple who were wearing their patriotism all over their bodies, yards, and cars when Bush lied to have a war, but when America needs to be working hard to roar back from Bush's Great Recession, they would rather see America fail than be a part of a recovery unless they get the credit for it. Some patriots! geez
(I joined before the info was shared which was quite OK with me. Why? I am not a paranoid freak.)
Interesting that you call yourself an individual, but all the information you surrendered has been used in a 'collective' manner. One that for the foreseeable future has already been used by other government agencies. The creation of more government will formulate increased amounts of dependency from the public along with the debt it incurs. Obviously the counter to 'independence' is dependence and that is where this leadership wants us all to be. I have worked for the government and there is no organization more backwards in principle, thought, action or reaction that I know of. It consumes everything in its path and delivers minimal results at the peril of its own subjects. Inefficient in process and structure, yet too powerful to contest and worse yet, no accountability for its actions. The federal government only works to sustain itself and the only way to feed its growth is to steel from it's subjects or borrow from its enemies. It's amazing when you think about it....
You were part of it then. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
Where is it written that government must be inefficient and ineffective? We make our government what it is, for better or for worse.
How do you feel about barn raisings and sewing bees? Do you consider them dangerous because they are examples of collectivist action? Civilization of any stripe is a collective. Are communities inherently communist because they have the word "common" as a root? Do you actually think the Republican party is not a communal affair...you know people getting together to share resources for a common purpose?
You would even have a language to speak without collective action.
Control of the language itself is as Orwellian as it gets. Barn-raisings were a communal activity that had nothing to do with government coercion. People acted at a local voluntary level because it was in their enlightened self-interest. It had nothing to do with government hand-outs, government wealth transfers, government taxation. "The power to tax is the power to destroy..."
So, if you trust government officials and government bureaucrats who owe their very existence to ever-increasing tax revenues, forced union dues going to Democrat coffers in spite of the will of the rank and file, ever expanding government, you must be smokin' some really good GONJA, Mon! One party rule, baby. It's the wave of the future... (Didn't the Soviet Union collapse as a result of one party rule?) NAH, never mind, go back to the ESPN2 feed and drool over the next round draft pick. Nothing to see here.
And he loved Big Brother...
Nice try, culheath, you are as smooth as they come, baby. David Axelrod wants you BAAD.
Is there a distinction to be made between collective and collectivist? Humans have banded together in communities because it increased their odds against larger, faster, stronger predators over the millennia. LONG before Karl Marx began his word-smithing re-write of reality. Your highly Orwellian cooption of the language reflects your intellect and your training.
Do you ever question your "reflexive loathing" of all things traditional, Christian and American? Have you been formally schooled in Marxist Dialectical Thought or are you just naturally as "slippery as the backside of an eel" and a verbal predator, or some combination thereof?
I'm wondering if you're "open-minded" enough to question what you've been indoctrinated into, or if you are a "true believer" championing your cause. Kent Clizbe, a former CIA counter-intel counter-terrorism expert wrote a book tracing the espionage origins of Political Correctness, a system of propaganda and censorship going all the way back to Lenin's KGB. His book "Willing Accomplices" [Ashburn, VA: ANDEMCA Press, 2011--available on Kindle from Amazon_com and in paperback from KentClizbe_com] documents how influence agents controlled by Dzerzhinsky himself infused Willi Muenzenberg's creed into the "engines of transmission" of American culture from the 1920s on, with the specific intent of dividing and demoralizing "Christian America," the final enemy of Marx's Glorious Tyranny of the Proletariat. Hollywood's Otto Katz, George S. Counts of the Teachers College of Columbia University, and the New York Times were specific vehicles [either "dupes" or "willing accomplices"] for this creed, as recounted by his wife Babbette Gross [any relation to NPR's Terri Gross?] to further the goals of COMINTERN, Communism International, while hiding any link to communism or the USSR. The ultimate result has been the unfolding of the Democrat party, whose candidate for president was specifically endorsed by the CPUSA.
If you are "open-minded" enough, it's obvious you are intellectually capable enough, I invite you to question where your worldview came from. Marx's subtle but ironclad hold on Hollywood, Academia, the NYC-based press, and now the public schools and the courts has unfolded precisely as foretold, and as outlined and documented in Clizbe's book.
If not, never question why you spin the web you do. You will be a credit to the Glorious Cause, and you will make it to the Nomenclatura of the Elite Vanguard. You are well on your way.
All the Best,
Dave
You have a lot of nerve asking a question like that and making assumptions about a stranger on the internet based on a couple of comments he's made.
Impugning the patriotism of someone who disagrees with you is an old Republican strategy that amounts to nothing more than name-calling.
well my sign says it all-this house is armed and if you beat the dogs then see if you stay lucky!! i for one see that its just a ploy to disarm America and take control and freedoms away
Trust me, tony, no one will be knocking on your door. Not until the GOP comes to ask for your campaign donation again in 2014.
You can go back to sleep. Keep the safety on.
Yep, they coming to git cha!
I have to wonder how all these folks who think they will protect America with their guns will stand up against the f-16's and armed drones.
The gun nuts aren't looking to protect America. They're itching to blast their neighbors away under the guise of their 2nd amendment rights. They're ready to knock us back to the Stone Age.
I don't understand what the big deal is. The same names on this list can easily be found in the active register at the local credit bureau and most likely the probation office.
What's the matter Gunner???? It's OK for the conservative groups to use the Supreme Court ruling but now that President Obama is organizing his supporters to push his agenda, all of a sudden he is doing something awful. If it is OK for the Koch brothers to do this, why are you applying different rules for the President. He is taking his arguments for gun control, the debt ceiling, etc., directly to his supporters. Way to go President Obama. If you must play by their rules, so be it. Beat them at their own game.
Agreed. All my Republican co-workers were singing the praises of Citizens United during the election. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, all I hear is whining.
I personally disagree with the Supreme Court decision and would like to see all the big money out of politics. But it is the law now. If you don't like the results, then work to change it, but don't be a hypocrite about it.
KN and Hoosier, I hear you. The word hypocrisy is an easily applied label. Citizens United was allegedly about free speech. The concern is that if money is speech, then only those with LOTS of money ever get heard. It is human nature to applaud something when it benefits your side of the argument, but bemoan it when the other side is benefitting.
Wonder if you've heard of a former 60s radical named David Horowitz. He is now HATED by the American Left because he KNOWS how they operate. In his most recent book "Radicals: Portraits of a Destructive Passion" [Washington, DC: Regnery Publishing, 2012] he reviews his relationship with various luminaries of the Left. In one such meeting with Christopher Hitchens and another Leftist, he was ambushed, spit upon and shoved around merely because he was a "traitor" to their cause and a threat to their worldview. He later visited Hitchens who was dying of cancer and at least had a civil parting of ways.
You addressed fund-raising by the Koch brothers who are also REVILED by the Left. David Horowitz and Jacob Laskin compared fund-raising by foundations supporting causes Left and Right in their new book, "The New Leviathan: How the Left-Wing Money Machine Shapes American Politics and Threatens America's Future" [New York: Crown Forum/Random House, 2012]. In fourteen appendices covering 93 pages, they tabulate 122 major "progressive" foundations with assets totalling over $104 BILLION dollars, outspending conservative foundations by a ratio of over 10:1. They argue that it is the Left which far and away has the advantage, and uses it, in supporting their causes, including our President who could not and would not have been elected without them. They state that the wealthy philanthropists, from Henry Ford to Andrew Carnegie would be apoplectic if they knew how the wealth they endowed has snowballed to oppose just about everything they believed in. The game is definitely afoot, and it is these foundations, as well as the NYC-based media who have a hammer-lock on the narrative and direction of the country.
"If you're not terrified, it is because you don't know enough yet!"
Keep thinking, keep questioning, and NEVER accept just one side's narrative as truth.
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inclusion in future policy discussions, really? let's see they call you tell you to call your congress person and tell them x,y,z and that passes for progressive discussion?
Yeah, because not bothering to sample the electorate for their opinion at all and governing by fiat is so much more democratic. "Daddy knows best", eh? Conservatives are such chumps for the dictatorial and patriarchal mind set.
Actually I have been involved in a number of discussions by phone where questions were encouraged and discussion occurred. We were emailed, told when the discussion would occur, and gave us a number to call to be included....
This OFA, along with the Republicans proclivity for shooting themselves in the foot pretty well marginalizes the Republicans for years to come. Until the morons running the Republican party understand it is the swing voter, not the screaming, hating, base, who elect the president, Republicans will not inhabit the White House. The only elections Repubs will win are the gerrymandered district House races. The 2020 reapportionment will fix that.
If you happen to get contacted by the OFA and don't like it, I'm sure they will have a way to opt out of such contacts in the future. Try going to their web site and opt out. Duh.
I'm a registered Republican and I got all kinds of mailings last year from Mitt Romney and his various surrogate groups. I read the first few and threw them in the trash, and after that I just got in the habit of throwing them in the trash right away.
This is why I always give my wrong phone number on everything that is not important when filling out documentation. Works like a charm. Also do not give out my email address or do social media. But I am not naive enough to think that Big Brother does not have all of my info somewhere. I just refuse to cooperate once contacted. Ha - like they care.
Big Brother is watching you! Turn in your guns now!
In your case it might be a good idea.
I believe that each person or persons on the list were asked if they wanted to be a part of the new list, or organization. I am on a list, just like this one for the Republicans, and they are saying the very same thing, not just publicly. Everyone from both sides was screaming "We the People" so now we see the people stepping up to the plate. Washington was broken, long before the current POTUS arrived, and the issues he presented in his Inaugural Address seem to have many of those "We the People" ready to support the change this country seems to need.
Terry,
We need change, but this is definitely not it! This reeks of a dictators way to influence millions to his "agenda" just exactly as Hitler did in Germany. History is repeating itslef, but the sheep will just keep following blindly.
@patriotmark: you're just miffed that your side didn't have the brains and the forethought to do this first. The Romney campaign sucked. The candidates sucked. They lost. End of story.
I had no idea Hitler was on Facebook!
And here we go! This is one, of many examples of why I didnt vote for this man. If you think {aawwww he wouldn't do such a thing}, think again.
Do what thing? Organize and use the base that elected him to help further the democratic agenda and push back against the monied and corporate lobbyists ? It's called democracy. Or do you think it's only fair play if Karl Rove and Koch Bros. do it?
What's your point? Are you afraid you are part of the minority or something?
Do what thing? How's it feel to have your information sold out- without your consent? Be careful what you blindly wish for!
It feels like capitalism. Are you against that or something?
Hey dude... sell away if that's what you believe capitalism is
I read the trms as I do for almost everything I consent to. That they are using the data I freely and willingly gave them to move the progressive agenda forward is exactly what I wanted and expected them to do as well as pass it on to the 2016 democratic/independant party.
This is going to co me in handy when the Republicans try to shut down the government or lead us into default because the President wont make cuts in SS or Medicare!. This is especially true since the people rendered their judgement on that issue in the election.
Tom in NH-294381
And how did they do that? The Rep still control the HOUSE... You Know... The PURSE STRINGS to the COUNTRY
HUH??
Times-Running-Out The only reason th eRepublicans hung onto the house id because they gerrymandered their districts. Democrats received over 1million more votes in their races than republicans did in theirs. If we could fix the broken way the states vote, for a party state wide instead of a district voting for candidates, the states picking a party and then the wining party picks the candidates for each district those states would be democratic, hence the reason the republicans want to rig the elections.
What the Republicans are proving is that they are the minority in the country and that their discredited and hackneyed ideas can't win elections anymore so it has become necessary to win by cheating. It's like watching the Inquisition torture people to enforce the Love of Jesus.
The founders of this country were a minority when they started. They prevailed at least in part because of the character of their leadership, and Divine Providence. Taking on the world's premier superpower of the day was no small feat. Hope we don't have to do it again...
DaveyJonesDetroit,
Love your posts for their considered points and demand for thought...and you call me smooth..hah!
To answer your earlier question regarding what informs my viewpoints briefly; I am informed by growing up in Detroit traveling the breadth of Canada and the US and living/learning at every social and philosophical level imaginable. My education and conversing ranged from drunken late nights under the bridges supping with rubbies to languishing with the literati and stars of the limo/penthouse coke fests. You go there, do that, take it all in, shed each successive skin and after enough crucibles you are left with a fair estimation of who you really are...sans the facile allegiances to any particular flag or group identity. I am human, I care.
Now to address your latest:
I see the Divine Providence as a load of magical thinking, but the rest is true enough. I hope we DO have to go through it again and judging by the inexorable testament of history, it will the liberals/progressives that will be left standing.
Nature hates two things (neither of which has really ever existed in reality) vacuums and permanence.
Conservatism pretends both and that is it's ruinous seed.
Very cool narrative, culheath. Who was the beatnik poet? Jack Carouac, I think, who had a similar life story.
Here's my beef, in case you couldn't tell. Why the subversion? Why the subtle morphing of community into communist? People exist in community because we're social beings. This has NOTHING to do with an overwhelming totalitarian police state where George Orwell would feel right at home. Have your travels taken you to Eastern Europe? I've talked with people from Armenia, Bulgaria, Romania and elsewhere. Their general question boils down to "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING??? Socialism DESTROYED my country and my people!" My greatest fear is that we won't know how great we had it until it's gone.
We are being propagandized, whether by corporate kleptocrats as you fear, or by Marxist totalitarians as I fear, or by Crony Capitalist funded Statism (label matters little) into a country and world where we and our children will have no alternative but to say "Yes, Master..."
There is nothing I fear more than a mezmerizing charismatic leader and public speaker (Obama or Hitler) backed by someone who SECDEF Gates called a "Pure Spin Doctor" (Axelrod or Goebbels) who are intent on dazzling us into slavery, all for our own good, of course. They were the radicals of the 60s who today OWN the levers of power, and due to their radical pasts THEY COULDN'T EVEN PASS A MINIMAL BACKGROUND CHECK TODAY, and they control the NUCLEAR CODES!!
Please read that book by Kent Clizbe, "Willing Accomplices" and let me know what you think. Goebbels stated "The purpose of propaganda is not to convey information but to acheive an effect." Dude, if we do not illuminate the evil done in corridors of power, we are ALL SCREWED.
"If the Government's boot is on your throat, it matters very little if it's a left boot or a right boot." [www_lpboulder_org/quotes]
I applaud your worldly wise perspective, but I fear you've limited yourself to one side of a very dangerous game. Keep it Real, but don't be afraid to take the other side seriously. I do, because I have to. I have children and therefore "skin in the game." I want them to have an America, not an Amerika, to grow up in.
I promise I will and thanks for the tip.
I heartily agree... though by my lights and experience over these 64 years accruing it, I tend to side with the left and its push for the evolution of social consciousness, I know no "side" has purchase on absolute truth and I am by instinct wary of zealots of any stripe. I commend you for your vigilance and tenacity and admire your willingness to engage in this sort of debate.
I'll try to get back to you about the book.
Good will to you and yours.
culheath, good numbers back your way as well. I'm a couple of years behind you, but I'm in my sixth decade of life.
You very well may be right. "I hope we DO have to go through it again and judging by the inexorable testament of history, it will the liberals/progressives that will be left standing." My concern is that the "testament of history" does indeed show that Tyranny is the default form of government. That doesn't make it desirable. Only briefly and with great effort is tyranny overcome by ordinary people, and usually at great cost. That for me is what makes our country exceptional. That is why, after 22 years of military service, I don't want it squandered away by slick talking salesmen handing out cell phones and contraceptives to the gullible.
The first thing Roman Legions did to pacify conquered people, after of course "crucifying the first five people they met in a village," was to provide "bread and circuses" to keep the masses fed, entertained and therefore docile. Please tell me this isn't what you see going on here.
In sum, it is truly a pleasure communicating with someone with a brain, and some accumulated wisdom that comes from years. We gotta listen to each other, or else we are DEAD MEAT at each others' hands. Peace...
Isn't that the list of people who should have their taxes raised in order to pay for Obama's agenda?
I know, I know, You,re saying to yourself, these people likely do not pay taxes, but that should be irrelevant to them being forced to pay for it.
I know, I know, some of you are saying to yourselves "But I work and I support the agenda" Well, the agenda you support calls for you to step up to the plate and carry the weight of those who don't have any money so you will be required to pay their share also.
I know, I know. You can't squeeze blood from a turnip, but you can sell turnips for about $ 12.00 a bushel.
Find a buyer! Peoblem solved!
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Play on!
If you right wingers dislike the OFA, wait until the Democrats find a way to keep the Republican voters away from the polls. That's another game the Dems will have learned from the Repubs.
Democrats won't do that, democrats think more people should vote not less. If everyone votes then everyone has a say on the agenda and the agenda should reflect the will of the majority, whether it be right, left, or center, and gerrymandering should never be done, all districts should be competative, if they are then it actually gives more voice to a third party when the 2 become corrupt, but "NO" you can't that in America.
"allowance"? Are you claiming the government tells U.S. citizens where to live?
"breed and build up the base"? No, WE believe in birth control, family planning and choice, remember?
My suggestion: get your life up and running by turning off the paranoid programming. There will always be another conspiracy theory.
I don't see the big deal about releasing the list of followers. You can find the same names and personal info at your local credit bureau and probation office.
Some people need more practice with their birth control. Maybe the next generation will show some improvement.
According to the article, this is not just Obama supporters, it's anybody associated with Obama supporters via Facebook. That would pretty much cover the entire population of the United States. I don't remember checking the portion of my Voter Registration, which allowed my personal information to be sold.....oh wait, I wasn't asked!! Good thing Obama knows what's best for all Americans, 'cause we could never think for ourselves...guess we hired a dictator for that job.
Actually, everyone on the list "Agreed to be on the new organization's list". Read the article closely, and then log onto the website of Organizing For Action (OFA). This is the 47% Club, or the majority of the American Voters who elected this president in 2012. Suddenly I get the feeling that Women of America are about to be heard.
Terry51025
You mean about obama only appointing white males to his positions?
You say that like it true - without giggling, winking or crossing your fingers. Unfortunately, for you - all we have to do read a news paper or magazine to know you are lying.
First of - President Obama has appointed many more people, who were not confirmed by Congress than the few who were confirmed. Within the higher ranks - Cabinet positions, true to form - the House Majority bullied, over-scrutinized, delayed until either the nominee stepped back from accepting the position or intelligently refused to be a clay pigeon for their "Sport". Others stood up to them, got the nomination, then resigned rather than be the whipping boy, under false accusations which were Plainly, obviously created under the Previous administration.
Second, the number of women seated in powerfully government positions reflect the long delayed, Ascension they deserved but didn't receive - as the Good ol' Boy network kept a Underground railroad of flukies, ingrates and degenerated on the fast track ... bypassing well qualified women in functional jobs, where they got the job done - but were never rewarded.
To this day - President Obama has been unable to completely fill his list of nominee's. But getting Kelly did seem to be pretty much a slam dunk - makes you wonder why the President was so slow in putting butts in the seats of his cabinet. So,"you", think he could have move faster?
maybe so, yup - maybe so...?
Democrat dictatorship ,nazi's started this way. Read history, political take over one party then one man look at it, don't listen, look. Almost every step, the same. One of the biggest steps, disarm public, no way to risist.
I am guessing that you do not spend much time in Washington, or get out much. Every proposal I have read regarding assault weapons, large ammo magazines, and ammo stock-piling, states nothing about tracking down gun owners. It seems to me that many Republicans on Capitol Hill are starting to listen to the folks who elected them, and the majority of the folks back home are speaking out about assault weapons. Drop by your Representative's Office, you might learn something.
Hitman, the first thing Hitler did was disban the unions, demonize socialists and communists and start an enviornment where people worshiped germany, it's anthem, flag an symbols. Then they picked a group, the jews to vilify and make everyone afraid of. Sound familiar? It should, it is the Republican platform.
Hitler's party was called The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated NSDAP). The NAZIs and Communists were COMPETITORS for the same totalitarian power they both sought.
Unions? How'd Solidarity work for the Communists in Poland and in Moscow? I'm sure they LOVED unions.
Prez O's campaign slogan "Forward"? Anyone remember Rachel Maddow lamenting on MSNBC over the ethics of yanking the Wikipedia article on the German Socialist publications whose propaganda mastheads had the party slogan of "Vorwarts!" or Forward? I got a copy of it before the Leftist propagandist editors of Wikipedia-land took it down. Gotta hide the truth, because the truth leads back to the Marxist origins of the current leadership of the Demmunist party.
Never stop questioning, never accept "the party line" from anyone...
“My takeaway from this was that they set this up to take advantage of the Citizens United decision and operate this outside the Democratic National Committee so they won’t have to file (election) reports,” said the executive, who asked not to be identified.
So now the DNC has set up a shill company to front for it on "issues" that would otherwise perhaps make people think bad about the DNC?
The DNC has nothing to do with this list. I am guessing that the DNC can elect to lease the list as the new organization has done, but the list could also go out to Mid-Term Candidates. Seems like a few people finally understand that a Community Organizer from Chicago knows how to organize supporters. I see this as Electronic Gerrymandering to offset Red State Republican Gerrymandering. Let the campaigns begin.
It's funny that obama's supporters don't get upset when this guy breaks his campaign promises.
Oh!! I forgot the people on welfare are calling the shots now.
Another good reason not to use social media or your cell phone for everything in your life. I rarely even look at Face Book. I think it's time to close it all together.
I think it it is as Funny as all get-out... Wait until your "FRIENDS" on Face Book start getting calls from the lib side... I wonder how many people will be "DeFRIENDED"... LMAO....
Your ceel phone minutes will be burned up with people TELLING you you have to pledge the money you were saving for the phone bill to help obama "Right" this country... OMG That is so Funny....
Hit man - Times-Running out - and War horse - are you guys for real?? you sound like a group of 12 year old boys playing cops and robbers - kissing the boots of the President, welfare people are calling the shots, - maybe it is time for you paranoid, gun totten tea party zealots start looking at the real danger in America which is an entire Party trying to do anything it can to stop people from voting, take away women's rights, turn its back on even homeless vets. the only damn reason the Republicans just now got behind the immigration issue is to try to win back that voter base.
until you boys grow up and get educated - you will continue to live in your fantasy world
Hitman, I commend you. You're right on. Hopefully, these mindless fools who slobber over their anointed leader will wake up before he grows his mustache and makes them all goosestep.
War Horse0606
He!! they are already Licking his Boots Clean for him.
Thou does protest too harshly. If you had attended the RNC Winter Retreat you would know that the GOP is currently working on the same approach, just eighteen months too late for Mitt Romney.
All I can say is, "It's about time"!
Politics is a dirty business and Republicans have steamrolled the Democrats since the CItizens United Decision. I hated that decision at the time and I still do, but you have to play by the rules you've been given. I'm sorry it's come to this. Maybe someday Citizens United will be overturned, but until then, sadly, this is what we have.
I've read Congressman Ryan's recent remarks and heard what came out of the Republican winter meeting. I'm also aware of the Republican effort in some blue/purple states to change the electoral college. I can see the handwriting on the wall. The only way the President (and a majority of this country's citizens, by the way) will see his agenda succeed, will be through a huge effort from the American people.
I'm one of those people and I'm happy to be part of that effort...it's why I voted for him!
Liberal idiots against sanity. Sure are a lot of them depending on some mindless idiot for their opinion as noted above.
and you'll be one of the fools out their knocking on doors....you don't want to knock on mine.
Door knocking is merely a term. I get mine through email and I'm sorry I can't disclose the plans to destroy the Republican party to non-members.
@Pat G, if you took all the splinter groups in the Republican party and added them up there would show more insanity in one groupe than the other. On the other hand I like them that way, it is as good as having a third party. If you haven't noticed that when there is a third candidate the Republicans don't stand a chance.
Chillin' in SC:
I couldn't have chosen better words for myself. Thank you. I was thrilled to hear of this evolution of the use of the 2008 and 2012 organizing efforts. What a waste not to use this data for inspiring we the people to stay involved and active in the politics of this Great Nation. I stand with you re: the realities of what Citizens United did to this Country. However, until we can get money out of politics, we must adjust the playing field the Supreme Court handed us!